Wave 2 Velocitron deluxes out in New Zealand with first look at Shadowstrip

No universe designation for "Decepticon Crasher". Guess that makes her a G1 native (rather than a GoBot) after all.

Huh.

That's an interesting way to release the G2 Stunticon decoes. Kind of clever, but did it really warrant creating a new character/name trademark instead of just calling it "Shadow Dragstrip?"

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:"Shadowstrip"... Well played Hasbro. Making him not G2 Drag Strip, so no inherent obligation to finish off the team.

I don't follow. Is there a difference between G2 dragstrip and shadowstrip? I don,t see how those are different characters.

Overcracker wrote:
Wait... did we know we were getting repaint of Dragstrip? Or is this the leaked "Shadow Striker"?

Interesting its out without any pics before hand.

Yes it's a fun surprise in that sense but a letdown that it isn't the shadowstriker we had in a listing. And yes, this would indeed be that shadowstriker since it was confirmed that the next wave would only have 2 new bots and be padded with repacks. The part that makes no sense though is that Cosmos is not one of those getting repacked.

Gearslide wrote:Huh.

That's an interesting way to release the G2 Stunticon decoes. Kind of clever, but did it really warrant creating a new character/name trademark instead of just calling it "Shadow Dragstrip?"

That way they avoid the obligation of releasing the rest of the team in G2 colors: new character that homages the deco, so he can be a mere substitute

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Wait... did we know we were getting repaint of Dragstrip? Or is this the leaked "Shadow Striker"?

Interesting its out without any pics before hand.

Yes it's a fun surprise in that sense but a letdown that it isn't the shadowstriker we had in a listing. And yes, this would indeed be that shadowstriker since it was confirmed that the next wave would only have 2 new bots and be padded with repacks. The part that makes no sense though is that Cosmos is not one of those getting repacked.

Interesting... thanks.

At least its one less figure I need to get. Already have Drag Strip, and don't need a G2 repaint that may or may to get a complete team as cool as the black, gold and blue is.

Toy Colors Hot Rod? Boring, easy pass.

As for the Shadow Striker-Shadowstrip situation, sad reminder that the listing we got technically didn't actually say Shadow Striker:It's just that between that and JTPrime referring to it as "Shadow Stri" based off of more extensive info they had (I could be misremembering that part, but I think I remember that being the case), everyone autofilled the full name as Shadow Striker because there was no other existing name it could be. So yes, no Shadow Striker.

I cannot decide whether I actually like Shadowstrip here, I'm gonna have to do some thinking on this one. It's either gonna be my first Legacy Stunticon purchase or another pass. This is probably a part of why Crasher didn't use the Dragstrip mold I guess?

EDIT: Also for anyone on the fence about Shadowstrip specifically for the reasoning of "what if they don't do a full G2 Menasor and just make Dragstrip", JTPrime did find a listing for a Legacy "Deluxe E Robo WLD Ridr" and up until this instance had no clue what it could be, so make of that what you will.

So much for Shadowstriker:( guess that's money saved

Nemesis Primal wrote:Toy Colors Hot Rod? Boring, easy pass.

Agreed, Toon accurate colors would have been nice.

And in the meantime, there's STILL no sign of Deluxe Cosmos anywhere near my realm! Boo!

So I guess that's it, Crasher really is stuck using the inferior version of the mold. I guess the moron who wasted Hasbro's money on the downgrade (it looks no more earthlike or G1 than SIEGE, while having worse plastic color layout and losing the shoulder port; what a total waste) to increase the ROI on their bad decision.

Nice to have G2 Drag Strip though. So I guess G2 Motormaster will either be the Commander-class for this line, or a Selects release, and they won't be doing a box set. I'm not too surprised that it turned out not to be Shadow Striker, since we haven't had a new Side Burn or anything resembling him. It's not like with our expectation of Armada Blurr where we were seeing Unicron Trilogy signs everywhere and knew we were getting a suitable base mold (Pointblank).

As for Hot Rod... Well, good for people who missed out on the mold and don't want to pay $90 or whatever he's going for. But I do seriously wish Hasbro get the smeg over their block about doing him in magenta already. It's been 36 smegging years, damnit. Although by that same token I'm not surprised they once again didn't do it. Only other possibility besides toy colors that I would have expected was a Cybertron Hot Shot homage.

At first I wanted Shadowstrip to stand in as a SG version of Dragstrip, but bow I think I'd want him to be a bodyguard for SG Goldbug.

I'll be pasing on theese two. Race car modes for both are still pretty bad though Shadow Strip looks pretty good as an arm -the colors make him look less like a bulldozer gone wrong. Honestly prefer fracture over crasher, if she had been the potp Jazz mold then maybe (it's not like its a big deal to hasbro to have incompletable combiners hahahaha). Depends on what/if they use a figure as a repaint/retool for Gobots Psycho.

Hotrods still going to be crazy priced if it's £33 for a voyager deluxe but seeing as they havent got his colors right yet the toy color version might work for me (and if they paint his roof the right color -they finally got clampdowns lambo panels paint matching so who knows)

Definitely want Crasher, will probably cave and get Shadowstrip.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Toy Colors Hot Rod? Boring, easy pass.

Agreed, Toon accurate colors would have been nice.

I was personally hoping for an IDW Rodimus (considering IDW Blurr exists) or a SG Hot Rod, but it does seem like even the people who are saying they might get the Toy Colors one would still rather have the magenta anyway, magenta seems like it would have been a safer bet than what they're going with.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm not too surprised that it turned out not to be Shadow Striker, since we haven't had a new Side Burn or anything resembling him. It's not like with our expectation of Armada Blurr where we were seeing Unicron Trilogy signs everywhere and knew we were getting a suitable base mold (Pointblank).

People weren't expecting Universe Shadow Striker, they were expecting a Generations version of the much-more-well-known Cyberverse Shadow Striker as presumably an Elita-1 repaint/remold.

"Shadowstrip" actually looks like a pretty cool repaint. Kinda makes me wish that Menasor's other arm could use it. Sadly, I gather it was set up only to work with Dead End. But a matching black car looks really good as Menasor's arm...

I'm always a sucker for toy-accuracy, I'll happily pick this Hot Rod up if it even has tampographs to mimic the sticker detailing like what was done with the Titans Return toys.

SpaceEagle wrote:I'm always a sucker for toy-accuracy, I'll happily pick this Hot Rod up if even has tampographs to mimic the sticker detailing like what was done with the Titans Return toys.

Hot rod interesting because the legs on the origional toy and animation model are very different.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:I'm always a sucker for toy-accuracy, I'll happily pick this Hot Rod up if even has tampographs to mimic the sticker detailing like what was done with the Titans Return toys.

Hot rod interesting because the legs on the origional toy and animation model are very different.

Yeah, that's what makes me interested to see how they'll go about it. I still prefer the toy colours over the 'toon colours anyway but I'm still hoping they lean more into it to really make it more worthwhile than that one Netflix Prime set that vaguely had the same colours as the toy and nothing else.

william-james88 wrote:...Shadostrip and Deceopticon...

Er, "Shadowstrip" and "Decepticon", surely?

Anyway, it's nice that they're (hopefully) giving (all?) the G2 versions new names, so we can either imagine they're upgraded forms of the same characters (à la Soundblaster and Twincast) or new characters in their own right (à la Soundblaster again).

This latest version of G2 Dragstrip reminds me of the old "John Player Special" version of the Tyrrell P34 car, which Dragstrip was based upon.

Fuck, my walmarts haven't even started stocking this line yet, and these guys have wave 2 before hasbro even announces it

I would love an additional Stunticon and that deco is awesome. I had some of the CW repaint a I liked as bonus Stunticons so it will be nice to roll over some more of that team

I do kinda personally wish they used a toy-based head for Shadowstrip to help differentiate him from Drag Strip (well, aside from the entirely different deco.)
But I'm likewise open to having more Stunticons, it was pretty fun getting Offroad.

I'll get Crasher and Shadostrip. Hopefully we get the rest of G2 Stunticons and none of them are tied to unrelated box sets.

Going to have to see Hot Rod first and hope the blurb for it is just wrong (since toys colors are more rust orange than true red). The only major difference between SS86 Hot Rod and G1 toy Hot Rod would be orange legs, lots of tampographs and maybe the flame designs. Not sure if that's enough to warrant a rebuy. It's especially frustrating knowing SS86 Hot Rod was supposed to be magenta but got nixed by higher ups at Hasbro, this was probably its last chance of happening. Maybe Target will finally do it in the Buzzworthy line like they did Kup and Cliffjumper.

Emerje

Not sure if I'll go for Crasher. I have Fracture already and I like the idea of having her as a different mold from Mirage, plus Fracture's feet are more Seismic Stomp worthy
Shadowstrip, I'll grab. I do hope we get a full set of G2 Stunticons

Crasher looks pretty good, I guess I can get her to go with the other Gobots in Road Ranger and BugBite so far.

I wish Shadowstrip had been Cyberverse Shadow Striker instead using a different mold, or that he had gotten a new head at least, but that paint scheme is super nice, and I think I'll get him solely for that reason, plus it's a good mold.

I wonder why they decided to call G2 Dragstrip "Shadowstrip." Also, those colors look very nice on the Legacy mold. While I'm not getting this figure, I hope that they release all of the G2 stunticons because I know a lot of people would want that.

Hellscream9999 wrote:****, my walmarts haven't even started stocking this line yet, and these guys have wave 2 before hasbro even announces it

Are you sure your Walmart didn't get them and they're gone already? Came out about a month ago. I feel like I saw them and then they were gone just as fast. I thought they were going to be shelf warmers, but people seem to really like these.

I just want to point something else out about this whole "too many Hauler" thing that some fans are unaware of. Unlike the deluxe case assortment, US walmarts are using SOLID CASES for voyagers. The assortment is 2 overrides and 1 Hauler BUT since you guys are getting solid cases instead, you will have some walmarts with nothing but Hauler and others with nothing but Override. Since Hauler is the short packed one, he is one of the rarest toys in wave 1, like Cosmos, in countries which are only getting assortments. So when you hear of countries like the UK getting boxes of just Cosmos, a short packed figure, and wish you were as lucky, well you are. With Hauler.

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:****, my walmarts haven't even started stocking this line yet, and these guys have wave 2 before hasbro even announces it

Are you sure your Walmart didn't get them and they're gone already? Came out about a month ago. I feel like I saw them and then they were gone just as fast. I thought they were going to be shelf warmers, but people seem to really like these.

One of my local Walmarts hasn't even put tags out yet. As of last Saturday they had a few Haulers on the overhead shelf and that was it, the pegs and lower shelves were full of other stuff.

Emerje

That Shadowstrip is all kindsa gorgeous! Kinda dig that Crasher too!

~ Grim

My minions have seen all the wave 1 Velocitron figures at the nearby walmarts, except Cosmos. Bah! They've even seen a few Haulers, though I've passed on that one since I already have ER Grapple.

They also gave notification that the Wild Rider figures are (finally) shipping from Pulse.

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:****, my walmarts haven't even started stocking this line yet, and these guys have wave 2 before hasbro even announces it

Are you sure your Walmart didn't get them and they're gone already? Came out about a month ago. I feel like I saw them and then they were gone just as fast. I thought they were going to be shelf warmers, but people seem to really like these.

In my area, everything except Cosmos is starting to shelf-warm, INCLUDING Clampdown. I've been to 3 Walmarts in two days and they all had at least 1 Clampdown and plenty of the others. Of course, this is one are, but they were definitely flying the first few cases. Now the rabid have all theirs and it's regular product.

sol magnus wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:****, my walmarts haven't even started stocking this line yet, and these guys have wave 2 before hasbro even announces it

Are you sure your Walmart didn't get them and they're gone already? Came out about a month ago. I feel like I saw them and then they were gone just as fast. I thought they were going to be shelf warmers, but people seem to really like these.

In my area, everything except Cosmos is starting to shelf-warm, INCLUDING Clampdown. I've been to 3 Walmarts in two days and they all had at least 1 Clampdown and plenty of the others. Of course, this is one are, but they were definitely flying the first few cases. Now the rabid have all theirs and it's regular product.

I really think we are using the "shelf-warm" term too loosely to the point where it loses meaning. If Clampdown, which has been on shelves for barely a month, is considered a shelfwarmer, then what do we call the Studio Series Blurrs and Kups from last year that I still see on shelves?

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:****, my walmarts haven't even started stocking this line yet, and these guys have wave 2 before hasbro even announces it

Are you sure your Walmart didn't get them and they're gone already? Came out about a month ago. I feel like I saw them and then they were gone just as fast. I thought they were going to be shelf warmers, but people seem to really like these.

In my area, everything except Cosmos is starting to shelf-warm, INCLUDING Clampdown. I've been to 3 Walmarts in two days and they all had at least 1 Clampdown and plenty of the others. Of course, this is one are, but they were definitely flying the first few cases. Now the rabid have all theirs and it's regular product.

I really think we are using the "shelf-warm" term too loosely to the point where it loses meaning. If Clampdown, which has been on shelves for barely a month, is considered a shelfwarmer, then what do we call the Studio Series Blurrs and Kups from last year that I still see on shelves?

No, I agree....I use the term as familiar, but not to kill the meaning of it. I don't think any of them are actual shelf warmers just yet. The market is starting to cool, lets say. But in the case of Clampdown, he was going right along with Cosmos. Now I can walk in dry and see him.

william-james88 wrote:
I really think we are using the "shelf-warm" term too loosely to the point where it loses meaning. If Clampdown, which has been on shelves for barely a month, is considered a shelfwarmer, then what do we call the Studio Series Blurrs and Kups from last year that I still see on shelves?

Well, then they're both shelf-warmers, just with possibly slightly different reasons for the state they are viewed as being in.

primalxconvoy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
I really think we are using the "shelf-warm" term too loosely to the point where it loses meaning. If Clampdown, which has been on shelves for barely a month, is considered a shelfwarmer, then what do we call the Studio Series Blurrs and Kups from last year that I still see on shelves?

Well, then they're both shelf-warmers, just with possibly slightly different reasons for the state they are viewed as being in.

I think the point is we need a new term for "figures that don't sell as fast as their case mates" vs. "figures that don't sell, period."

william-james88 wrote:I really think we are using the "shelf-warm" term too loosely to the point where it loses meaning. If Clampdown, which has been on shelves for barely a month, is considered a shelfwarmer, then what do we call the Studio Series Blurrs and Kups from last year that I still see on shelves?

"Shelf-hobos"?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
I really think we are using the "shelf-warm" term too loosely to the point where it loses meaning. If Clampdown, which has been on shelves for barely a month, is considered a shelfwarmer, then what do we call the Studio Series Blurrs and Kups from last year that I still see on shelves?

Well, then they're both shelf-warmers, just with possibly slightly different reasons for the state they are viewed as being in.

I think the point is we need a new term for "figures that don't sell as fast as their case mates" vs. "figures that don't sell, period."

Arguably, the "don't sell at all" belief might not be accurate. Perhaps both "groups" of toys we've just discussed differ only by the length of time warming the shelves? I suppose one way would be to (hypothetically) see which ones were sold (at a discounted price?) to customers or a discount chain of shops (like the ones that sell liquidation stock, etc)?

Perhaps "bargain bucket-fodder"?

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:****, my walmarts haven't even started stocking this line yet, and these guys have wave 2 before hasbro even announces it

Are you sure your Walmart didn't get them and they're gone already? Came out about a month ago. I feel like I saw them and then they were gone just as fast. I thought they were going to be shelf warmers, but people seem to really like these.

In my area, everything except Cosmos is starting to shelf-warm, INCLUDING Clampdown. I've been to 3 Walmarts in two days and they all had at least 1 Clampdown and plenty of the others. Of course, this is one are, but they were definitely flying the first few cases. Now the rabid have all theirs and it's regular product.

I really think we are using the "shelf-warm" term too loosely to the point where it loses meaning. If Clampdown, which has been on shelves for barely a month, is considered a shelfwarmer, then what do we call the Studio Series Blurrs and Kups from last year that I still see on shelves?

No, I agree....I use the term as familiar, but not to kill the meaning of it. I don't think any of them are actual shelf warmers just yet. The market is starting to cool, lets say. But in the case of Clampdown, he was going right along with Cosmos. Now I can walk in dry and see him.

It's cool, I do like following your analysis. We see the speed at which some fly off the shelves and as there is more supply, we see which toys end up having met that immediate demand vs the ones that still don't. And from what we see in that pic of New Zealand, Clampdown will eventually stay on the shelves as much as any other toy since it will be repacked in the next wave.

I got Hauler and he's the only one that's a must-buy for me since he's one of the few TFs from the cartoon that hadn't had a modern style release yet.

I would have gotten Cosmos, but I never saw him.

I did see Clampdown, but his police lights were missing.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I got Hauler and he's the only one that's a must-buy for me since he's one of the few TFs from the cartoon that hadn't had a modern style release yet.

I would have gotten Cosmos, but I never saw him.

I did see Clampdown, but his police lights were missing.

the police lights are with his weapons

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I got Hauler and he's the only one that's a must-buy for me since he's one of the few TFs from the cartoon that hadn't had a modern style release yet.

I would have gotten Cosmos, but I never saw him.

I did see Clampdown, but his police lights were missing.

They arent missing, they just arent placed on the alt mode since that would be really easy to either fall off or get stolen due to the open window.

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I got Hauler and he's the only one that's a must-buy for me since he's one of the few TFs from the cartoon that hadn't had a modern style release yet.

I would have gotten Cosmos, but I never saw him.

I did see Clampdown, but his police lights were missing.

They arent missing, they just arent placed on the alt mode since that would be really easy to either fall off or get stolen due to the open window.

The open window as nothing to do with that. Remember the Prowl family, the Red Alerts, and ER Ratchet. All had their "cherries" on top removed and segregated among the weapons. That is, if I remember correctly.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I got Hauler and he's the only one that's a must-buy for me since he's one of the few TFs from the cartoon that hadn't had a modern style release yet.

I would have gotten Cosmos, but I never saw him.

I did see Clampdown, but his police lights were missing.

They arent missing, they just arent placed on the alt mode since that would be really easy to either fall off or get stolen due to the open window.

The open window as nothing to do with that. Remember the Prowl family, the Red Alerts, and ER Ratchet. All had their "cherries" on top removed and segregated among the weapons. That is, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, but they were all packaged in robot mode so you wouldn't see it. That's why this is the only release where one would think it's missing from looking at the toy.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I got Hauler and he's the only one that's a must-buy for me since he's one of the few TFs from the cartoon that hadn't had a modern style release yet.

I would have gotten Cosmos, but I never saw him.

I did see Clampdown, but his police lights were missing.

They arent missing, they just arent placed on the alt mode since that would be really easy to either fall off or get stolen due to the open window.

The open window as nothing to do with that. Remember the Prowl family, the Red Alerts, and ER Ratchet. All had their "cherries" on top removed and segregated among the weapons. That is, if I remember correctly.

Yeah, but they were all packaged in robot mode so you wouldn't see it. That's why this is the only release where one would think it's missing from looking at the toy.

Yeah, exactly that.
Also, it's a pretty damn genius move to separate those lights. It keep production costs of the repaints way down. The downside is that it's one more loose part that can be missing. I predict some of those lights will sell for 50$ on eBay 20 years from now.

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You know seeing as how I feel like a minion of the bad guys....root for the bad guys....it would be nice if the Generations symbol were altered for the symbol for a while. C'mon / only greatness can come from this.

How about the term peg-squatters....shelf-squatters?

And regarding Cosmos.... ....'nuff said!

More Shattered Glass for me please!

X3ROhour wrote:More Shattered Glass for me please!

Wrong thread.

blackeyedprime wrote:I'll be pasing on theese two. Race car modes for both are still pretty bad

Whuh? I can maybe see that for Crasher, but not Shadowstrip.

blackeyedprime wrote:though Shadow Strip looks pretty good as an arm -the colors make him look less like a bulldozer gone wrong.

Is that what you think of the Tyrell P34 in general?

blackeyedprime wrote:Honestly prefer fracture over crasher

They're the same; "Fracture" was just a now-unnecessary lawyer-friendly name.

blackeyedprime wrote:if she had been the potp Jazz mold then maybe (it's not like its a big deal to hasbro to have incompletable combiners hahahaha).

Except that the PotP Jazz mold only works for the vehicle mode, and doesn't have a suitable head pre-molded.

blackeyedprime wrote:Hotrods still going to be crazy priced if it's £33 for a voyager deluxe

For the umpteenth time, it's because of the crazy jointing needed to match the cheating animation model. And it beats whatever the crap SS86 is going for on eBay right now, oy.

blackeyedprime wrote:but seeing as they havent got his colors right yet the toy color version might work for me (and ifthey paint his roof the right color -they finally got clampdowns lambo panels paint matching so who knows)

I mean, red is always a butt as matching goes, but they did fine with the SS86 version so this should turn out fine also.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:I'm always a sucker for toy-accuracy, I'll happily pick this Hot Rod up if even has tampographs to mimic the sticker detailing like what was done with the Titans Return toys.

Hot rod interesting because the legs on the origional toy and animation model are very different.

Yes and no. The big difference is that on the animation model the rear fenders, wheels, and lights are part of the arms (Hot Rod's cuffs are in fact supposed to be the taillight sockets); the non-kibble part of the leg is the same.

I think it might have served SS86 Hot Rod better to replicate that intended transformation.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Toy Colors Hot Rod? Boring, easy pass.

Agreed, Toon accurate colors would have been nice.

I was personally hoping for an IDW Rodimus (considering IDW Blurr exists)

Yeah, but the Blurr mold has a lot more wiggle room. They could probably have managed an IDW chest, but the head spikes...

Nemesis Primal wrote:or a SG Hot Rod,

That would honestly be more expected, but OTOH that would probably be in the Shattered Glass line.

Nemesis Primal wrote:but it does seem like even the people who are saying they might get the Toy Colors one would still rather have the magenta anyway, magenta seems like it would have been a safer bet than what they're going with.

Yeah, but HasTak's block about doing a magenta Hot Rod is evidently even more stubborn than their block about giving G1 Arcee a proper toy, so...

Also, it has to be considered that aside from not being magenta... SS86 Hot Rod already is cartoon colors (what with the black lower legs, gray hands, etc.) So a fully toon colors version would just be a rehash with the red parts hue-shifted. Toy colors at least adds further difference (red lower legs, orange hands, new decals, etc.) to make him stand out more from the version that already came out.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm not too surprised that it turned out not to be Shadow Striker, since we haven't had a new Side Burn or anything resembling him. It's not like with our expectation of Armada Blurr where we were seeing Unicron Trilogy signs everywhere and knew we were getting a suitable base mold (Pointblank).

People weren't expecting Universe Shadow Striker, they were expecting a Generations version of the much-more-well-known Cyberverse Shadow Striker as presumably an Elita-1 repaint/remold.

Fair enough.

I agree about Crasher; it really should have been the POTP Jazz mold. Hasbro should have made it with Crasher in mind as it's an obvious choice (it was to me, at least, as soon as I saw that Jazz mold). It's surprising that they didn't really reuse that mold, apart from that lackluster Ricochet repaint (sans targetmaster).

Did Toyhax make any stickers to turn Ricochet into Crasher?