New Color Images: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Beast Convoy (Optimus Primal)
Wednesday, March 23rd, 2016 2:27PM CDT
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Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 3:11pm CDT
But if not, I wonder where these countenances would be stored when they aren't used. You can't have them just lying somewhere.
Posted by Optimizzy on March 23rd, 2016 @ 3:43pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 3:53pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:stop standing that gorilla like that. ugh. hate that.
Yeah, it's not like he spent 70%+ of his time in beast mode standing up like that
Posted by Samsonator on March 23rd, 2016 @ 4:08pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 23rd, 2016 @ 4:16pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:stop standing that gorilla like that. ugh. hate that.
Yeah, it's not like he spent 70%+ of his time in beast mode standing up like that
Or in real life for that matter.
I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.
Emerje
Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2016 @ 4:23pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.
Emerje
Same here. The toy looks fantastic and gives me extremely high hopes for a Beast Megatron. But the blue looks really off in beast mode. I can't help but think this was a deliberate choice to give Hasbro an opportunity to do a more accurate beast mode here in the States at a later date.
Posted by ishigoto on March 23rd, 2016 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 23rd, 2016 @ 4:27pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Emerje wrote:I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.
Emerje
Same here. The toy looks fantastic and gives me extremely high hopes for a Beast Megatron. But the blue looks really off in beast mode. I can't help but think this was a deliberate choice to give Hasbro an opportunity to do a more accurate beast mode here in the States at a later date.
That would be a nice change.
And no, it's not a trick of the camera, no professional photographer would allow that much reflection in the studio. Plus we'd see it in the glossy white legs as well. It's too consistent in both modes in all new photos to not be accurate.
Emerje
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 4:35pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Seibertron wrote:Emerje wrote:I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.
Emerje
Same here. The toy looks fantastic and gives me extremely high hopes for a Beast Megatron. But the blue looks really off in beast mode. I can't help but think this was a deliberate choice to give Hasbro an opportunity to do a more accurate beast mode here in the States at a later date.
That would be a nice change.
And no, it's not a trick of the camera, no professional photographer would allow that much reflection in the studio. Plus we'd see it in the glossy white legs as well. It's too consistent in both modes in all new photos to not be accurate.
Emerje
It's likely that blue, in the show, his chest reflected blue in certain light, I agree that it's a little too noticeable on the figure, it should be much more subtle.
Posted by Emerje on March 23rd, 2016 @ 5:00pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:It's likely that blue, in the show, his chest reflected blue in certain light, I agree that it's a little too noticeable on the figure, it should be much more subtle.
At one point it was more subtle, I can't imagine why they looked at it and thought "more blue".
Now that looks amazing! I wonder what the Japanese fans think?
Emerje
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 5:01pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:It's likely that blue, in the show, his chest reflected blue in certain light, I agree that it's a little too noticeable on the figure, it should be much more subtle.
At one point it was more subtle, I can't imagine why they looked it and thought "more blue".
Now that looks amazing.
Emerje
Maybe it was a powerful light that de-saturated all the colors, 'cuz he looks more grey than the magazine pics...
Posted by Emerje on March 23rd, 2016 @ 5:25pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Maybe it was a powerful light that de-saturated all the colors, 'cuz he looks more grey than the magazine pics...
If so then it was intentionally misleading. Check out the bot mode screencap.
The fur is the same color but the bot chest has the accurate metallic blue.
Emerje
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 5:33pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Maybe it was a powerful light that de-saturated all the colors, 'cuz he looks more grey than the magazine pics...
If so then it was intentionally misleading. Check out the bot mode screencap.
The fur is the same color but the bot chest has the accurate metallic blue.
Emerje
Interesting, I dunno then; I do agree though, a darker color fur and the very faded blue would've been a great compromise.
Posted by Insurgent on March 23rd, 2016 @ 6:20pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2016 @ 10:18pm CDT
The most understandable speculated-explanation I've seen comes from something TF_JW wrote elsewhere:
Whatever color, it should definitely be the same color as his hands and feet in gorilla mode. It's all exposed gorilla "skin".
I think what happened is that as Season 1 progressed, the animators found that blue light sources cast the most dramatic shadows/highlights across Primal's skin tone. So while in early episodes there's a lot of "natural" light causing the gorilla skin to be more flat/gray, they kept playing with the lighting in different situations and really came to like the blue. I certainly remember him being in dim lighting with a blue light on him on more than one occasion.
And while this makes sense for why he's blue here, I'm with those who feel that the gorilla skin (face, chest, hands, and feet) should have all been the same shade of shiny gray, and the robot chest as almost the same gunmetal as his robot waist and robot toes.
Much like this:
Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2016 @ 10:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2016 @ 10:25pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 24th, 2016 @ 12:14am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 24th, 2016 @ 12:21am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I have no comment on the color differences, but I gotta be honest, this figure doesn't impress me much. I'm not saying it's bad, because it's not. But I'm looking at this and I'm looking at my 10th anniversary Primal standing on my desk, and I don't see a lot of improvement design-wise. Perhaps once I see the MP figure in a video being transformed it will change my opinion, but so far the differences between the MP and the '06 figure don't justify spending the money on the MP. Like I said, once the final product is available, it may change, but I doubt it.
The problem here might simply be that the Beast Wars figures were at the beginnings of modern Transformers articulation. Most of the figures were very poseable with good articulation. Optimus Primal was a great figure to begin with, especially with the mold changes made 10 (yikes) years ago. I think I'll have a great appreciation of this new Beast Convoy IF they do a Masterpiece Beast Megatron who had a cool toy originally but could use some improvements to get him closer to his animation model.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on March 24th, 2016 @ 12:59am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 24th, 2016 @ 3:19am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 24th, 2016 @ 3:57am CDT
I agree. I think Beast Megatron is more appreciated and perhaps loved than Primal is. Due to characterization and David Kaye's voice work. That's not to say Garry Chalk didn't do well or Primal isn't likable, but I think most fans would like a MP Beast Megatron over a MP Optimus Primal, especially if the details and articulation is superior to the previously released figure as you mentioned. And I also have high hopes for a MP Beast Megatron as well. I kinda figured they would just get a release in the Generations line like Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator, but a MP upgrade doesn't hurt. The only question (to me anyway) is if the upgrade is worth the asking price.Seibertron wrote:I think I'll have a great appreciation of this new Beast Convoy IF they do a Masterpiece Beast Megatron who had a cool toy originally but could use some improvements to get him closer to his animation model.
Posted by zodconvoy on March 24th, 2016 @ 7:34am CDT
About $106USD and October, 2016!
http://www.allspark.com/2016/03/masterpiece-optimus-primal-to-be-mp-32-release-date-announced/
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 24th, 2016 @ 8:10am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2016 @ 8:21am CDT
What is new here is that we finally have a indicaton of the price and the release date. The price is 12000 Yen, which is around $106 USD at the moment. This is the MSRP, which means the actual price sold at retail in Japan and in Japanese online stores will be around 8500 Yen, or $75 USD.
The release date will be in October 2016 (end of the month, typically).
Aother great tidbit is that we finally have the actualy MP numbering. MP Beast Convoy is officially MP-32.
Below is the image where we gathered all this, where you can see the latest image of the toy's robot mode.
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2016 @ 8:58am CDT
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:But if not, I wonder where these countenances would be stored when they aren't used. You can't have them just lying somewhere.
Ha, I guess this pic confirms your greatest fears:
But then again what about BB's facemask? Or the ultra Magnus faces? This isnt anything new.
ishigoto wrote:Release date?? This will be the first masterpiece I buy and I do *NOT* wanna miss it. Where does would one find this when it comes out?
Just look above, the answer has just been posted
As for the actual palce to orer it, anywhere Japanese transformers are sold, its not an exclusive.
Rodimus Prime wrote:But I'm looking at this and I'm looking at my 10th anniversary Primal standing on my desk, and I don't see a lot of improvement design-wise.
Robot mode, I understand, but you dont see this as a major improvement over the beast mode?
As for me, I am a bit upset that after all this time and all the advances, we still cant have this shoulder actualyl cover all the robot mode detail on his shoulder. Why not cover up all that white on the beast shoulders?!
Posted by Insurgent on March 24th, 2016 @ 9:46am CDT
Stupid Magnus repaint, pushing back my munkyy.
Guess this is the only MP BW we're gonna get in the anniversary year.
Posted by kurthy on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
Insurgent wrote:OCTOBER?????
Stupid Magnus repaint, pushing back my munkyy.
Guess this is the only MP BW we're gonna get in the anniversary year.
Munkky, not trukk?
Posted by Insurgent on March 24th, 2016 @ 11:43am CDT
kurthy wrote:Insurgent wrote:OCTOBER?????
Stupid Magnus repaint, pushing back my munkyy.
Guess this is the only MP BW we're gonna get in the anniversary year.
Munkky, not trukk?
Munkky not trukk.
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2016 @ 11:46am CDT
Insurgent wrote:kurthy wrote:Insurgent wrote:OCTOBER?????
Stupid Magnus repaint, pushing back my munkyy.
Guess this is the only MP BW we're gonna get in the anniversary year.
Munkky, not trukk?
Munkky not trukk.
Munkky AND trukk
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 24th, 2016 @ 12:17pm CDT
Gorilla mode isn't the top priority for me, I am considering robot mode mainly. Ape mode I can take or leave, as my Primal is never ever in gorilla mode, because I really like the robot mode. Ironically, Beast Megatron is the opposite for me. He's always in T-Rex mode, because I love that much better than his robot mode.william-james88 wrote:Robot mode, I understand, but you don't see this as a major improvement over the beast mode?Rodimus Prime wrote:But I'm looking at this and I'm looking at my 10th anniversary Primal standing on my desk, and I don't see a lot of improvement design-wise.
Trunkky. Or Munkk.Willy J wrote:Munkky AND trukk.
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on March 24th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2016 @ 12:54pm CDT
Nik Hero wrote:Beautiful, but way too expensive. http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Legends-LG02-Convoy-TAKARATOMY/dp/B00KXQJL06/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=seibertron07-20&ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00&linkCode=sl1&linkId=e7cc1698429d89d295c4236840cf554a hits the spot enough for me to save $50 or so!
Thats not saving 50$ off this toy though. The new one has double the parts count, and is not a 20 year old mold. If you buy that toy on amazon and then eventually buy the MP after the rave reviews come through, then all you do is end up losing 62$ by not having bought the right toy and instead compromised.
This is like when they did MP 10 and some thought they could just stick to MP01. And then a few years later MP10 was selling routinely for 400$ and people were sad they hadnt bought it for cheaper when they could.
I am not trying to tell you what to do, I just dont want you to regret things later. Sometimes paying more now means we dont have to pay even more later. Ask ayone who paid the money to get to the 2011 Botcon Custom Class.
Posted by galvatron00 on March 28th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 28th, 2016 @ 2:20pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 28th, 2016 @ 10:52pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 4th, 2016 @ 2:57am CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 4th, 2016 @ 7:50am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 4th, 2016 @ 8:28am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:That makes me happy in my pants.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 4th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 4th, 2016 @ 9:41am CDT
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on April 4th, 2016 @ 10:05am CDT
Nik Hero wrote:Beautiful, but way too expensive. http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Legends-LG02-Convoy-TAKARATOMY/dp/B00KXQJL06/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=seibertron07-20&ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00&linkCode=sl1&linkId=e7cc1698429d89d295c4236840cf554a hits the spot enough for me to save $50 or so!
Actually more than $50, since the MP is $120 plus shipping. I just ordered the one above last week and very happy with it being MP size and matching week with Ratrap, Blackarachnia, and the rest.
Posted by william-james88 on April 4th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
Nik Hero wrote:Nik Hero wrote:Beautiful, but way too expensive. http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Legends-LG02-Convoy-TAKARATOMY/dp/B00KXQJL06/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=seibertron07-20&ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00&linkCode=sl1&linkId=e7cc1698429d89d295c4236840cf554a hits the spot enough for me to save $50 or so!
Actually more than $50, since the MP is $120 plus shipping. I just ordered the one above last week and very happy with it being MP size and matching week with Ratrap, Blackarachnia, and the rest.
The MP is 75$, that is the real retail price. Every other price you see is an importer. Its like someone saying G2 Superion is 200$ because they saw an importer listing: http://www.redmercury.co.jp/shop/detail ... =RED-12631
So I am buying it at a store like this one for 75$: http://www.anime-export.com/product/31054
The shipping will be something like 15$, like it was with MP Shockwave
Also, anyother Primal toy aside from the original in box will be worth less once the MP comes out, so you have to consider that too.
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on April 4th, 2016 @ 10:16am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:Nik Hero wrote:Beautiful, but way too expensive. http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Legends-LG02-Convoy-TAKARATOMY/dp/B00KXQJL06/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=seibertron07-20&ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00&linkCode=sl1&linkId=e7cc1698429d89d295c4236840cf554a hits the spot enough for me to save $50 or so!
Actually more than $50, since the MP is $120 plus shipping. I just ordered the one above last week and very happy with it being MP size and matching week with Ratrap, Blackarachnia, and the rest.
The MP is 75$, that is the real retail price. Every other price you see is an importer. Its like someone saying G2 Superion is 200$ because they saw an importer listing: http://www.redmercury.co.jp/shop/detail ... =RED-12631
So I am buying it at a store like this one for 75$: http://www.anime-export.com/product/31054
The shipping will be something like 15$, like it was with MP Shockwave
Also, anyother Primal toy aside from the original in box will be worth less once the MP comes out, so you have to consider that too.
$75 is not too bad.
Posted by william-james88 on April 4th, 2016 @ 10:22am CDT
Nik Hero wrote:
$75 is not too bad.
Only 13$ more than the one you bought and you get all the extra faces, articulation and superior proportions in both modes. And unlike that one, the MP will raise in value later while the others will lower in value. But you might not care about that and thats fine.
Posted by Va'al on April 4th, 2016 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 4th, 2016 @ 11:49am CDT
Posted by Nexus Knight on April 4th, 2016 @ 11:54am CDT
Sidenote- Not a fan of the non-storable extra faces. Just saying.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 4th, 2016 @ 12:09pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 4th, 2016 @ 12:24pm CDT
Looks like 75$ well spent to me. At least put him on your next year's christmas list