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Video Showcasing Transformation of Transformers Masterpiece Beast Convoy (Optimus Primal)

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:41 am

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The latest video in a series of Takara videos spotlighting the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars has been released on nicovideo. In it, one of the superstar designers transforms the figure and we get a good look at all the moving parts.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:04 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:45 pm

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The gorilla face and chest are a bit bluer than I would have wanted (they're supposed to be shiny silver), but overall the figure looks very nice. The best representation of the CGI model in toy form ever made.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:03 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The gorilla face and chest are a bit bluer than I would have wanted (they're supposed to be shiny silver), but overall the figure looks very nice. The best representation of the CGI model in toy form ever made.


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2 things

1. These arent the final colours.

2. Things can look odd when dealing with the silver colour which is very reflective.
For instance, look at Long Haul below, he appears to have either green on his forehead or a hole right through it but it is in reality just a trick of the camera due to the reflective silver paint.

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Postby fenrir72 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:52 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The gorilla face and chest are a bit bluer than I would have wanted (they're supposed to be shiny silver), but overall the figure looks very nice. The best representation of the CGI model in toy form ever made.


Nik Hero wrote:Ugh! Way too blue. I still prefer this one: http://amzn.to/1R0y8nu


2 things

1. These arent the final colours.

2. Things can look odd when dealing with the silver colour which is very reflective.
For instance, look at Long Haul below, he appears to have either green on his forehead or a hole right through it but it is in reality just a trick of the camera due to the reflective silver paint.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

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Thanks to the Figure King Magazine, we now have new, full color images of the upcoming Masterpiece Beast Wars Beast Convoy (Optimus Primal)! These images show off all kinds of things, including the sword storage on the back, as well as the various different robot and beast mode faces, all in full color. The images scanned are mirrored below for your enjoyment. So what do you think of the fully colored Primal now? Are you ready to buy him? Are you hyped for him to come out? Let us know what you think in the comments section, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your latest Transformers news and galleries!

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:11 pm

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What if there were variants of this figure with the different head molds? That would be disastrous.

But if not, I wonder where these countenances would be stored when they aren't used. You can't have them just lying somewhere. >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:43 pm

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stop standing that gorilla like that. ugh. hate that.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:53 pm

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Optimizzy wrote:stop standing that gorilla like that. ugh. hate that.


Yeah, it's not like he spent 70%+ of his time in beast mode standing up like that >:oP
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Let's be honest... I was always going to get this. Every time I see it, it looks better and better.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:16 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:stop standing that gorilla like that. ugh. hate that.


Yeah, it's not like he spent 70%+ of his time in beast mode standing up like that >:oP


Or in real life for that matter.

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I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Seibertron » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:23 pm

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Emerje wrote:I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.

Emerje


Same here. The toy looks fantastic and gives me extremely high hopes for a Beast Megatron. But the blue looks really off in beast mode. I can't help but think this was a deliberate choice to give Hasbro an opportunity to do a more accurate beast mode here in the States at a later date.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby ishigoto » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:25 pm

Release date?? This will be the first masterpiece I buy and I do *NOT* wanna miss it. Where does would one find this when it comes out?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:27 pm

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Seibertron wrote:
Emerje wrote:I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.

Emerje


Same here. The toy looks fantastic and gives me extremely high hopes for a Beast Megatron. But the blue looks really off in beast mode. I can't help but think this was a deliberate choice to give Hasbro an opportunity to do a more accurate beast mode here in the States at a later date.


That would be a nice change.

And no, it's not a trick of the camera, no professional photographer would allow that much reflection in the studio. Plus we'd see it in the glossy white legs as well. It's too consistent in both modes in all new photos to not be accurate.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:35 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Emerje wrote:I'm much more concerned over why these new images make him look so blue.

Emerje


Same here. The toy looks fantastic and gives me extremely high hopes for a Beast Megatron. But the blue looks really off in beast mode. I can't help but think this was a deliberate choice to give Hasbro an opportunity to do a more accurate beast mode here in the States at a later date.


That would be a nice change.

And no, it's not a trick of the camera, no professional photographer would allow that much reflection in the studio. Plus we'd see it in the glossy white legs as well. It's too consistent in both modes in all new photos to not be accurate.

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It's likely that blue, in the show, his chest reflected blue in certain light, I agree that it's a little too noticeable on the figure, it should be much more subtle.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:00 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:It's likely that blue, in the show, his chest reflected blue in certain light, I agree that it's a little too noticeable on the figure, it should be much more subtle.


At one point it was more subtle, I can't imagine why they looked at it and thought "more blue".

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Now that looks amazing! I wonder what the Japanese fans think?

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:01 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:It's likely that blue, in the show, his chest reflected blue in certain light, I agree that it's a little too noticeable on the figure, it should be much more subtle.


At one point it was more subtle, I can't imagine why they looked it and thought "more blue".

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Now that looks amazing.

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Maybe it was a powerful light that de-saturated all the colors, 'cuz he looks more grey than the magazine pics...
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:25 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Maybe it was a powerful light that de-saturated all the colors, 'cuz he looks more grey than the magazine pics...


If so then it was intentionally misleading. Check out the bot mode screencap.

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The fur is the same color but the bot chest has the accurate metallic blue.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:33 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Maybe it was a powerful light that de-saturated all the colors, 'cuz he looks more grey than the magazine pics...


If so then it was intentionally misleading. Check out the bot mode screencap.

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The fur is the same color but the bot chest has the accurate metallic blue.

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Interesting, I dunno then; I do agree though, a darker color fur and the very faded blue would've been a great compromise.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Insurgent » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:20 pm

I believe the phrase is SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!! :MAXIMAL:
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Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:18 pm

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I'm glad to see that most agree that the gorilla chest, gorilla faces, and robot chest are too blue when they should be silvery gray with a slight hint of a blue tint.

The most understandable speculated-explanation I've seen comes from something TF_JW wrote elsewhere:
Whatever color, it should definitely be the same color as his hands and feet in gorilla mode. It's all exposed gorilla "skin".

I think what happened is that as Season 1 progressed, the animators found that blue light sources cast the most dramatic shadows/highlights across Primal's skin tone. So while in early episodes there's a lot of "natural" light causing the gorilla skin to be more flat/gray, they kept playing with the lighting in different situations and really came to like the blue. I certainly remember him being in dim lighting with a blue light on him on more than one occasion.

And while this makes sense for why he's blue here, I'm with those who feel that the gorilla skin (face, chest, hands, and feet) should have all been the same shade of shiny gray, and the robot chest as almost the same gunmetal as his robot waist and robot toes.

Much like this:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Seibertron » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:23 pm

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From that picture, it's pretty clear that there's no blue on the beast mode. It looks like cost savings with less colors of paint backfired.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:25 pm

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It's also possibly a hand-painted sample that we see in this magazine scan, so there's still a chance that this deco may not be final. :PRAY:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) Thread

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I have no comment on the color differences, but I gotta be honest, this figure doesn't impress me much. I'm not saying it's bad, because it's not. But I'm looking at this and I'm looking at my 10th anniversary Primal standing on my desk, and I don't see a lot of improvement design-wise. Perhaps once I see the MP figure in a video being transformed it will change my opinion, but so far the differences between the MP and the '06 figure don't justify spending the money on the MP. Like I said, once the final product is available, it may change, but I doubt it.
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