More In Hand Image of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29 Shockwave
Wednesday, March 30th, 2016 2:14PM CDT
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Posted by Big Grim on March 30th, 2016 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on March 30th, 2016 @ 3:15pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on March 30th, 2016 @ 3:58pm CDT
There has still been absolutely no sign of MP Starscream anywhere. He's currently about $200-ish on Amazon. As popular as Shockwave is, you may as well get the foreign version because after scalping and all the other hassles that you're likely to go through while waiting for Hasbro to get this on the shelf? You'll actually SAVE time and money by just ordering right now from Japan or wherever.
From the photos, it looks like they carried over some of the flaws from G1 all the way to 2016. Looks like you STILL won't be able to jam the legs all the way up to seal the gaps near the gun body and the 'handle'. Hopefully the photographer was just lazy...
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:07pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:I'm saving up for this one because after what happened with MP Soundwave, and more recently with MP Starscream's re-release, I don't think there's any way that any collector can hope to find this on the shelf at TRU or anywhere else that Hasbro may cut a deal with to distribute.
Thats if Hasbro even tries to release it. Hasbro doesnt like releasing transformers shaped as guns (which is odd since they own Nerf, but go figure). The rerelease of Classics Megs may be a sign that they are slowly coming around.
Posted by Insurgent on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:13pm CDT
This image/pose is way more awesome than it should be.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:16pm CDT
"TAXI!!!"Insurgent wrote:
Posted by Amelie on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:48pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus@ I think the point that amelie was making was that sky fire was too big to fit within the established scale...unless takara get bigger (with cost as well) to get scale right.
Thats pretty much it, yeah. Skyfire is just simply too big of a toy for Takara to grapple. Which is probably why the MP Devastator idea got simplified down into Combiner Wars, too.
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2016 @ 5:00pm CDT
Amelie wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus@ I think the point that amelie was making was that sky fire was too big to fit within the established scale...unless takara get bigger (with cost as well) to get scale right.
Thats pretty much it, yeah. Skyfire is just simply too big of a toy for Takara to grapple. Which is probably why the MP Devastator idea got simplified down into Combiner Wars, too.
I think the scale we got in the end for the toys worked out ok. Looking at the generations line, keep the classics Optimus and Megatron as your faction leaders and leader Ultra Magnus and Jetfire work well enough.
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:01pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:49pm CDT
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:dont care what anyone says, but lavanderwave here looks really cheap looking in that color. couldnt go darker takara?
PC images aren't always spot on. Wait for Ryan's images. More accurate.
Posted by fenrir72 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:52pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:53pm CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on March 30th, 2016 @ 8:15pm CDT
Posted by bvzxa on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:27pm CDT
It's all in the lighting. Different light sources make the shade of purple look different. For example, this pic makes the purple look really dark and not so lavender:bvzxa wrote:The colors aren't the same as the early test shots
Whereas other pics make the opposite look true, giving the purple a light and pale appearance.
Posted by MGrotusque on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:58pm CDT
Great looking figure though. An absolute must have and it's engineering appears to be executed wonderfully. It's just that boring ass colour palate that kills it for me.
Posted by MGrotusque on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:34pm CDT
Call me crazy if you must. Lights and sound are what blew me away with Shockwave when i was a wee lad.
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:38pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2016 @ 12:03am CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on March 31st, 2016 @ 12:27am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
His personality is nowhere near bland. He's a cold calculating super villain with a vision for Universal domination.
I would think Soundwave more epitomises the embodiment of a "bland character" than Shockwave ever was. Soundwaves MP figure has a fantastic paint job with metallic paint and a deep rich sparkly blue which is the complete antithesis of the depth and profile of that character. If we're talking in cartoon context anyways.
They should have at least matched the G1 toy colour much like they did Soundwave and less the pale lilac, lavender and grey colorway they chose. On top of using clear plastic for the transclearant plastic is just insult to injury as far as i'm concerned. It could have at the very least been purple.
It just looks Brony to me. Nothing says "EVIL Decepticon" at all about the current colours shown.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:13am CDT
Yes, and that's his only character trait. He's single-minded and doesn't deviate from it. He's boring. Bland. I like Shockwave for the potential he has, not for what he has achieved so far. I liked him in the G1 comics, even though he wasn't used to his full potential.MGrotusque wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
His personality is nowhere near bland. He's a cold calculating super villain with a vision for Universal domination.
Agreed on Soundwave. However, anytime there is discussion of a character, I immediately think of the G1 comics version, it's my default version to go to as it is what I grew up with. Sometimes I have to remind myself that not everyone is that way.I would think Soundwave more epitomises the embodiment of a "bland character" than Shockwave ever was. Soundwaves MP figure has a fantastic paint job with metallic paint and a deep rich sparkly blue which is the complete antithesis of the depth and profile of that character. If we're talking in cartoon context anyways.
Posted by fenrir72 on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:30am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
Yup. Let's all respect each other's opinions. Some see blue others red in a single object. Just natural.We're only human.
Your opinion on how bland Shocky was in the show really conflicted with his box bio/tech spec. Never realized he was also gunning for Meg's position. I wonder why they dropped that part off the script? Maybe two schemers would be too confusing?
Now if we combine both the Marvel and cartoon version (just gives me shivers to have an intellectual mass "murderer" with that Sark voice)........
Or maybe in another reality, Hasbro does a DBZ and re-animates the entire Season 1 and 2, fix the plot holes and inconsistent animation? And adds the neglected Shockwave personality
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:58am CDT
Yet purple is the combination of those colors.fenrir72 wrote:Yup. Let's all respect each other's opinions. Some see blue others red in a single object. Just natural. We're only human.Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
Hence why I said he was wasted potential even in the original comics, where he got the most development. He was just the straight forward "the Decepticons will conquer and I will rule. Why? Because it's logical." He is 1 of my favorite comic characters as it is. Had he been given a bit more personality he quite possibly could have been the best Decepticon character ever. Imagine Shockwave's abilities combined with Starscream's desire for example. He would be nearly unstoppable and certainly a better leader than Megatron.Your opinion on how bland Shocky was in the show really conflicted with his box bio/tech spec. Never realized he was also gunning for Meg's position. I wonder why they dropped that part off the script? Maybe two schemers would be too confusing?
Yeah, very scary. Add his penchant for experimentation, and you have a comic book robot Hitler. Speaking of, I think originally he was kind of intended to be Megatron's mad scientist sidekick, much like Josef Mengele was to Hitler.Now if we combine both the Marvel and cartoon version (just gives me shivers to have an intellectual mass "murderer" with that Sark voice)...
With today's technology? I would love to see that! I might even watch the cartoon more often.Or maybe in another reality, Hasbro does a DBZ and re-animates the entire Season 1 and 2, fix the plot holes and inconsistent animation? And adds the neglected Shockwave personality
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:33am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:34am CDT
Posted by Alpha Dominus on March 31st, 2016 @ 7:50am CDT
MGrotusque wrote:I also want sound effects. I think i may be the only person left that feels that sound effects are an integral part of the playability of a true MP Shockwave. That's a gimmick that should have carried over into the engineering of this release.
Call me crazy if you must. Lights and sound are what blew me away with Shockwave when i was a wee lad.
I wholeheartedly agree. Love this character and the toy. Even without this feature though and the lighter color scheme (which I know I'm in the minority here-I'm totally down with!)I look forward to displaying him with a certain 3rd party Megs.
Got my shipment notification this morning!
Posted by Insurgent on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:37pm CDT
I know he originally had sounds and lights, but I would honestly prefer a non gimmicky figure that looks perfect, doesn't have to sacrifice something for said gimmick and is a little cheaper. Heck I'd even prefer painted eyes over light piping on MPs so the back of the head doesn't have that transclearant window.
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on March 31st, 2016 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:52pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:58pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:I'll agree that the colours could be better, but I can't fault them considering they're cartoon accurate. That said, I'd love it if Takara did a toy colours version, with shiny silver chrome instead of grey and dark sparkly purple instead of lavender.
And they probably will together with the "Shack" version.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2016 @ 7:14pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 31st, 2016 @ 9:55pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on April 1st, 2016 @ 8:42am CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on April 1st, 2016 @ 9:34am CDT
Whatevs.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2016 @ 9:59am CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
Well, it is engineering from 3 or 4 years ago and was designed prior to the MP line going full on cartoon styled (removed of most panel detailing).
I'm not defending Quakewave, in fact I never got one because I dislike the run on unofficial MP stuff of late, but in all fairness there is some perspective necessary here.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:16am CDT
It's also way too tall.Counterpunch wrote:
Well, it is engineering from 3 or 4 years ago and was designed prior to the MP line going full on cartoon styled (removed of most panel detailing).
I'm not defending Quakewave, in fact I never got one because I dislike the run on unofficial MP stuff of late, but in all fairness there is some perspective necessary here.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:26am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's also way too tall.Counterpunch wrote:
Well, it is engineering from 3 or 4 years ago and was designed prior to the MP line going full on cartoon styled (removed of most panel detailing).
I'm not defending Quakewave, in fact I never got one because I dislike the run on unofficial MP stuff of late, but in all fairness there is some perspective necessary here.
Though there are some who would argue that MP Shockwave is way too short. And then there's people like me who acknowledge that the "scale" in the cartoon is completely f*cked and trying to base the size of the toys on their sizes in the cartoon is totally pointless.
To be honest though, whilst MP Shockwave is without a doubt the better LOOKING toy (colours aside) Quakewave is still an impressive piece. He has fully articulated fingers (I think...?), a light-up eye instead of light piping, and most importantly, legs that can actually bend 90 degrees, whilst MP Shockwave has a single knuckle joint, light piping for his eye, and his knees (from all the photos we've seen so far) seem to be limited to about 30 degrees. On a more subjective note, I do think that, whilst less accurate, the bulkier lower legs look much more impressive on Quakewave.
Posted by Amelie on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:28am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Cyberpath wrote:
Well, it is engineering from 3 or 4 years ago and was designed prior to the MP line going full on cartoon styled (removed of most panel detailing).
I'm not defending Quakewave, in fact I never got one because I dislike the run on unofficial MP stuff of late, but in all fairness there is some perspective necessary here.
To add to this - I'm sure Takara themselves took a look at the figure and learnt from it. Or at the very least looked at it and said "lets do this better"
Posted by Counterpunch on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:48am CDT
Amelie wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Cyberpath wrote:
Well, it is engineering from 3 or 4 years ago and was designed prior to the MP line going full on cartoon styled (removed of most panel detailing).
I'm not defending Quakewave, in fact I never got one because I dislike the run on unofficial MP stuff of late, but in all fairness there is some perspective necessary here.
To add to this - I'm sure Takara themselves took a look at the figure and learnt from it. Or at the very least looked at it and said "lets do this better"
Yuuup.
I think that's most likely true too.
Posted by Big Grim on April 1st, 2016 @ 11:23am CDT
As far as I'm concerned, I don't need or want MP Shockwave as I already have mine. If this allows someone else to get the figure they want by getting the MP, great.
Posted by Cyberpath on April 1st, 2016 @ 12:51pm CDT
Takara for me. But in this case the difference doesn't seem as dramatic as Magnus and Citizen Stack, or Bee and BII. I guess Shockwave is a easier character?
Posted by Amelie on April 1st, 2016 @ 12:56pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Chosen Prime video.
Takara for me. But in this case the difference doesn't seem as dramatic as Magnus and Citizen Stack, or Bee and BII. I guess Shockwave is a easier character?
Shockwave has the advantage of not really looking like "anything" - save for a kinda gun-thing where 90% of what becomes the robot being visible. Plus his cartoon model looks a lot like his G1 toy and transforms in a similar way.
Posted by Rainmaker on April 1st, 2016 @ 5:37pm CDT
Amelie wrote:not really looking like "anything"
and that's just one of the things that makes Shockwave great (and logical)
Posted by Agamemnon on April 1st, 2016 @ 5:54pm CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on April 1st, 2016 @ 9:17pm CDT
Oh, okay, here are some pics for you!
As I said, I don't own G1 Shocky. I have this grey one with the red translucent plastic, which I think is from Radio Shack as the Astro Magnum pics I see online all had clear plastic. So, here are a bunch of pics with "dead" G1 Shockwave.
I hope these pics show just how similar MP is to G1. The size is almost a spot on match! MP Shocky wouldn't stand by himself with the barrel angled up like G1 will with toes out in full. So a flight stand is assisting...
Seriously, they are almost identical!
If you look closely, you might see I am wearing my Spiderman Sweatshirt. But, yeah, same size!
Same height. Similar build. (Better legs on the MP.) And very similar transformation, just no parts forming, unless you count the toon accurate backpack.
Larger knee pads and bigger backpack on MP.
Little bit different detailing on the backpack.
Maximum knee bend on both figures. And, yes, MP Shocky is balancing on one foot. ("Dead" Shocky looks a bit like Bigfoot in this pose...)
And, finally, a close-up of the two heads. The original one was a little longer and flatter. MP is a bit taller and shorter from front to back, looking more like the animated model.
Pros: Good color purple, though I do like the deeper one from the G1 toy a bit more. Very nice articulation, with much shoulder and arm movement (ratcheted!) as well as a decent knee bend. (Shockwave doesn't bend his knee for any bot! Just don't tell Megatron!) Great waist covers around the upper thighs. Nice touch with the abdominal "6-pack" that pulls down to hide the "willy." And the best thing? MP Shocky has a "Slinky" like spring covering his entire hose! No rubber breaking down like my old grey bot!
Cons: The whole head piece doesn't appear to lock in when raised up for bot mode. I kept bumping Shocky's head to hide in the abdomen. The waist swivel is rather loose. That's about it!
So, thanks for reading! If you have this guy on the way, I think you will not be disappointed! Personally, I cannot wait to see Ryan give this guy the Seibertron photo shoot treatment. Do you have G1 Shocky, Ryan? I think there can be some great pics there.
One last post script. Shocky would be huge for a Classics collection, unless the most recent Leader Megs and Starscream are used. Then he should fit in nicely. I may take some pics with some Classics/Generations figures later this weekend. I remember Counterpunch mentioning using MP in that collection...
Have a great weekend, everyone!
-Ags
Posted by galvatron00 on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:07pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:21pm CDT
Great shots Ag!
Posted by Rainmaker on April 1st, 2016 @ 10:24pm CDT
He, or Bumblebee G2, will be my first MP
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 2nd, 2016 @ 1:48am CDT