First look at new TakTomy BinalTechs!

I think I'll be canceling my pre-order for Prime now that we're certain he isn't green.

These really are not doing much for me, especiallty Arcee. More than anything this smacks of giving people another chance at these molds.

I would be interested in a Frenzy to go with my Rumble, but I bet it's red like the Alt. release.

I think I'm going to have to cancel Arcee as well...



I mean, without a new head ^this^ isn't even remotely close to what she should look like.

Are these die-cast? If they are I might keep the preorders.. if they are plastic I'm going to pass..

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Are these die-cast? If they are I might keep the preorders.. if they are plastic I'm going to pass..

They're plastic.

Also, man, I actually wanted a Lime Green Convoy...

I don't see any images...

<edit>... doesn't show up in news column... I see them in now in their native area.. d'oh.

anyway, canceling arcee and prime... for the same reasons as everyone else has posted.... More more to burn on classics, instead


I'm more interested in the "top right" mockup silhouette of the next binaltech..

NuclearConvoy wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Are these die-cast? If they are I might keep the preorders.. if they are plastic I'm going to pass..

They're plastic.

That's contrary to everything I've heard about them.

They're supposedly diecast.

Counterpunch wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Are these die-cast? If they are I might keep the preorders.. if they are plastic I'm going to pass..

They're plastic.

That's contrary to everything I've heard about them.

They're supposedly diecast.

Really, cause I heard they weren't diecast.

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:[

They're plastic.

That's contrary to everything I've heard about them.

They're supposedly diecast.

Really, cause I heard they weren't diecast.

This is why I am asking....

I thought the main difference between the Binals and they Alternators was the die-cast thing.

it was until Kissplayers. then they started with the plastic

Meh, bring on some new stuff... this is just more of the same.

I have no doubt that prime will be plastic. The only differences I see between the new and old Prime is that the new one has Chrome wheels and a chrome grill and the inside of the bed is all red. In robot mode the only difference I see is that his crotch is silver or chrome along with acouple of touch ups on his legs and feet which may be chrome of silver. I haven't decided if that's enough to buy him yet. Of course if he was diecast, I would buy 2

they have been confirmed to be die-cast. The only one that I am getting right now is that Bluestreak only because it is a exact replica of my car.

I'm sure Jazz, Arcee and Bluestreak are diecast but can someone post where it was confirmed that Optimus is diecast. I really need to see it with my own eyes. Thanks!!!

Beyond the approximate shipping weight according to BBTS (2.38 pounds/1.079 kg), I have not seen anything. But the other three are definitely die-cast.

The silhouetted car, are they sure it's a Civic?

Kiss Players = Plastic
Binaltechs = Die-Cast

BT-19, BT-20, BT-21 & BT-22 are Takara's continued release of Binaltech line, so they are supposed to be in die-cast.

Now that BT-22 Convoy's color is confirmed and that's the color I have been hoping for, so I upped my pre-order with BBTS to 2 now (one MISB one loose). I just did a quick fitting test on current Alt Convoy with the standard BT box, don't think it will do. So maybe Takara will adopt the BT-17's fishbowl packaging style again, and I wonder how the packaging art will be like.

Anyway I love BTs, and I just can't get enough of them, gimme gimme gimme more!

Cheers,
Coolpop

Unlike everyone else, I think these are great and if I can scrounge up $150 I’ll be buying three of them.

Oh and just so everyone knows, they are die-cast, that’s the whole point of this Prime.

I'm a big fan of Alts/BTs but the big problem they always had was TOO MANY REPAINTS!!!!!!!

On a positive note, I do hope these do well and allow them to finally come out with new body styles.

If the prime is more red than orange I *may* be interested in him.

I'm not really thrilled about the new releases for this line. The Neon Prime would have been fun to actually see but the only one I wanted was Ravage and the stores around here stopped carrying the line ages ago.

No Paradon Medic eh? No suprise. For "new" BT's they ain't much to look at. Whats the real difference with Prime?

Right now I am confused as to what I want to do with my pre-orders.

I think I'll name the pink one Femmeputer, cause it sure ain't Arcee.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Right now I am confused as to what I want to do with my pre-orders.

I think I'll name the pink one Femmeputer, cause it sure ain't Arcee.

I'd say cancel them and save your money for City Commander Magnus' upgrade and the eHobby Sentinel which are sure NOT to disappoint.

Better pics over at Tformers.com.

Wow, Arcee's looking pretty butch. They really should've remolded the head at least.

I have to say that Jazz looks pretty nice though. Still won't be buying it though, too much money to spend on a figure I already have.

Far from impressed. Not even die-cast and just like the Kiss Players line by default. Forget it!

I dont get it, TomyTakara can repaint the Honda S200 into "Arcee" but they can't make a new head and finnally release Legion/Megatron. This Binaltech come back stinks.

coolpop wrote: So maybe Takara will adopt the BT-17's fishbowl packaging style again, and I wonder how the packaging art will be like.

Anyway I love BTs, and I just can't get enough of them, gimme gimme gimme more!

Cheers,
Coolpop

BTW, the fishbowl packaging style was Hasbro's not Takara's.

DavidT wrote:I'm sure Jazz, Arcee and Bluestreak are diecast but can someone post where it was confirmed that Optimus is diecast. I really need to see it with my own eyes. Thanks!!!

The die-cast has been confirmed by several online retailers. Here are three:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ee%2dhobby%2eco%2ejp%2fcgi%2dbin%2fomc%3fport%3d33301%26req%3dPRODUCT%26ett%3d20080331022123223719000000%26parentpage%3d2473870%26hier%3d20050915090721538698000000

http://www.tfsource.com/Reissues/BT-22/BT-22-Convoy.html

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK10821&mode=retail

As someone else mentioned - the 2.5 lbs is the same weight as BT Black Convoy, which was die-cast. The KISS Players version weighs 1 lb.

Coloring
The repaints are kinda boring. Arcee looks sketchy with the blotchy patches of pink and the adulterated head sculpt. Bluestreak doesn't look like Bluestreak. He looks like a bastardized offspring of Smokescreen. I wish Prime was painted into a different character.

Packaging
It looks like they will be using the classic Binaltech packaging for Meister and Blue Streak, but the number for Blue Streak is BT-03.

Mold Degradation
Can people see what I was referring to in the other thread regarding Blue Streak's panels not lining up? I think the mold is worn out.

http://tformers.net/g/albums/9465/shs08-08.jpg

Stormrider wrote:Can people see what I was referring to in the other thread regarding Blue Streak's panels not lining up? I think the mold is worn out.

http://tformers.net/g/albums/9465/shs08-08.jpg

In terms of Bluestrek's mold, it is the Subaru mold that is a problem in my opinion. I can rarely get the two halves lined up correctly.

another example, which is mine



as for the Bluestreak's colors, it almost looks like the G1 Catalog image.

Jazz looks ok. Its a good thing I pre-ordered him. I could always use more Alts/BTs.

Stormrider wrote:

DavidT wrote:I'm sure Jazz, Arcee and Bluestreak are diecast but can someone post where it was confirmed that Optimus is diecast. I really need to see it with my own eyes. Thanks!!!

The die-cast has been confirmed by several online retailers. Here are three:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ee%2dhobby%2eco%2ejp%2fcgi%2dbin%2fomc%3fport%3d33301%26req%3dPRODUCT%26ett%3d20080331022123223719000000%26parentpage%3d2473870%26hier%3d20050915090721538698000000

http://www.tfsource.com/Reissues/BT-22/BT-22-Convoy.html

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK10821&mode=retail

As someone else mentioned - the 2.5 lbs is the same weight as BT Black Convoy, which was die-cast. The KISS Players version weighs 1 lb.

Coloring
The repaints are kinda boring. Arcee looks sketchy with the blotchy patches of pink and the adulterated head sculpt. Bluestreak doesn't look like Bluestreak. He looks like a bastardized offspring of Smokescreen. I wish Prime was painted into a different character.

Packaging
It looks like they will be using the classic Binaltech packaging for Meister and Blue Streak, but the number for Blue Streak is BT-03.

Mold Degradation
Can people see what I was referring to in the other thread regarding Blue Streak's panels not lining up? I think the mold is worn out.

http://tformers.net/g/albums/9465/shs08-08.jpg

Wouldn't surprise met at all if the mold WAS worn out. They've used it more times than the RiD Car brothers. I think Hasbro should enact some kind of special plan to preserve molds for the future.

actually both Takara and Hasbro (if they follow pursuit)need to try other molds.

I'm definitely keeping my preorder for Bluestreak. He's the only one I want out of the four. I also drive a Subaru Impreza and would buy however many repaints of the mold they end up making. Although, I do think that Bluestreak would have looked better with a silver hood which would help differentiate him from Smokescreen. I've always preferred his original diaclone colors anyway.

Now, if they would only make a red Subaru, like my car, and call him Cliffjumper.

lol....I will paint that hood silver when I get it. I have paint my original one and I will do it again If they made a Legacy 2.5GT mold, I would be thrilled...

All of them are repaints! What the heck!

Cascadia wrote:

coolpop wrote: So maybe Takara will adopt the BT-17's fishbowl packaging style again, and I wonder how the packaging art will be like.

Anyway I love BTs, and I just can't get enough of them, gimme gimme gimme more!

Cheers,
Coolpop

BTW, the fishbowl packaging style was Hasbro's not Takara's.

Right, Hasbro's newer Alternators are in fishbowl packaging indeed. However Takara introduced BT-17 Black Convoy as 2007 Wonderfest's convention exclusive (limited production of 800pcs, or 1,000pcs?), and this particular figure "borrowed" the fishbowl packaging style, most likely due to Convoy's bigger size & nature of exclusivity. My guess is that Takara will borrow this packaging style again since it's the same mold bearing the same size fitting problem.

Here's a nice image from TFSource:


Cheers,
Coolpop

Where is the cheapest place to pre-order them right now?

I see BBTS has it for $60? We have it for $55 after you use 10% discount code: KING

Does toyarena.com's prices match up to competitiors??? if not we will match it!

Kingplay wrote:Where is the cheapest place to pre-order them right now?

I see BBTS has it for $60? We have it for $55 after you use 10% discount code: KING

Does toyarena.com's prices match up to competitiors??? if not we will match it!

As of today 5/17/2008 9:45am PST:

Agesthreeandup.com has these new BTs for $51.01 (match and 10% off should be $45.91)

etoysjapan.com has these new BTs for $43.19 (match and 10% off should be $38.87)

Perhaps you will not allow KING 10% off while you price match others???

Can I do local pick-up to save on shipping as well? I think I am just about 3 miles away (Monterey Park <---> Alhambra).

Cheers!
Coolpop

i think the silhoutte is a new mold. takara didnt hide the mold when the release those four ! ! ! so i would expect a new mold. Not a rumble. Integra have shorter front car. But maybe maybe ravage or a new mold.... !!!

The Japanese translation says Honda

Hopefully, it is a new mold of some sort.

check out our preorder price at toyarena.com, remember we ship from within the U.S. + we have 10% discount code: KING

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coolpop wrote:

Kingplay wrote:Where is the cheapest place to pre-order them right now?

I see BBTS has it for $60? We have it for $55 after you use 10% discount code: KING

Does toyarena.com's prices match up to competitiors??? if not we will match it!

As of today 5/17/2008 9:45am PST:

Agesthreeandup.com has these new BTs for $51.01 (match and 10% off should be $45.91)

etoysjapan.com has these new BTs for $43.19 (match and 10% off should be $38.87)

Perhaps you will not allow KING 10% off while you price match others???

Can I do local pick-up to save on shipping as well? I think I am just about 3 miles away (Monterey Park <---> Alhambra).

Cheers!
Coolpop

I'd be satisfied just matching the etoysjapan.com price! I have a 40 dollar credit for BBTS, but if TA will match the 43.19 price I'll cancel my pre-order and save the credit to go toward City Commander.

What's with the white spots all over the front bumper of Prime? I thought it might just be weird light reflections in the photos, but it looks to be on both the bot and alt modes which are shown at different angles...is that really part of the paint job? If so, I'm not too pumped about the "bird crap" look...that would be a bit of a deal breaker for me.

Just a FYI but BBTS is a sponsor of Seibertron.com so please stop with the plugging of a competing website.

Cyber Bishop wrote:Just a FYI but BBTS is a sponsor of Seibertron.com so please stop with the plugging of a competing website.

Agree. We should support Seibertron's sponsors, that's why I am still keeping my pre-orders with BBTS for their:

Trustworthiness
Great customer service
Fast email responses
Pay only when pre-order is shipped
No penalty for canceling pre-orders
Superb selection
Reasonable shipping charges

Keep up the good work Joel!

Cheers,
Coolpop

yep...plus pile a loot....You can get your items when you want them.

Cascadia wrote:yep...plus pile a loot....You can get your items when you want them.

OMG! How can I forget to mention "Pile of Loot", it simply RULES!!!

Are we sure it's Arcee? 'Cause Deceptichargers head has always looked like Megatron to me.