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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),
Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Faulty memory, that's why; I was getting it mixed up with the WFC Optimus from 2010. My bad.Sabrblade wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).
Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
I don't see how it could be read as anything other than the latter.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I don't see how it could be read as anything other than the latter.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?
If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
1. Oops, got mixed up again.Sabrblade wrote:Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Megatron as a gladiator was from Marvel UK (where Optimus and Sunstreaker were gladiators too). Dreamwave reiterated it, and then IDW added the miner bit. Aligned merged it all together and now it's his standard backstory.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:2. Ah, so just like "Megatron was a miner and gladiator" (which was originally planned for Dreamwave) it's the backstory Furman is married to and so nobody bothers to try telling an interesting story with the cartoon's angle or something fresh.![]()
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:So we're going to give priority to a few characters who a small number of the fanbase actually cares about and was basically glorified fan-fiction as opposed to late-G1 characters who have yet to receive ANY form of modern update?
Oh well, saving more money I guess.
And here come the haters to correct me on my own opinion...
Burn wrote:So we're going to give priority to a few characters who a small number of the fanbase actually cares about and was basically glorified fan-fiction as opposed to late-G1 characters who have yet to receive ANY form of modern update?
Oh well, saving more money I guess.
And here come the haters to correct me on my own opinion...
Nemesis Primal wrote:Not gonna lie, I'm surprised that the biggest critique people have of this list is that the characters aren't higher profile? Like, the biggest complaint from Earthrise was that allegedly high-profile G1 characters were exclusives and therefore hard-to-get, and early in this thread people weren't happy about Cosmos being exclusive, so people now wanting more Minibots and characters that require new molds as exclusives confuses me.
More details:
-Sandstorm allegedly has the mutant mask
-Nightprowler allegedly does NOT have the mutant mask, and is listed as a Deluxe so he will be from the Cheetor mold as opposed to Tigatron
-One of the accessories in the pack with the Red Cog is the arm blade Jetfire had in the WFC cartoon
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Grizzly-1's whole gimmick is that he uses both faces for each of his split-personalities, so ideally the mold should have one head with two faces front-and-back like the original, letting fans choose which face they'd like to use for each redeco while also keeping Grizzly-1's original character quirk intact.Emerje wrote:I'd prefer PC and G-1 with the mutant head and Survive with the regular bot head.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was fanfiction.
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars was fanfiction.
Emerje wrote:Cosmos is believed to be a retooled (or shared tool) Origins Bumblebee, right? Not sure how well that'll work...
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