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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:07 pm

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shajaki wrote:I think Cheetor looks phenomenal. And those concerned with the rear leg kibble, the fact that three's as little as there is, astonishes me. Congrats Takara :APPLAUSE:
I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering art 8-)
No one is raving, but it was the one common complaint so far.

I just really hope, if this line continues (I have full faith it will) that Tigatron is NOT a slight remold of this. [-(

What about an up-scaled remold? They are nearly identical in bot mode...
Upscaled and beast parts remolded, sure ;)^

I wonder how easy that is? Would they just increase the size of the 3d model (with changed parts) and just send that to the thingy that turns it into molds for the factory?

But until we see them side by side, we won't know if they're making them scale :-s
They could do whatever was done for Energon Megatron/Galvatron and Super Link Galvatron/Galvatron G.

Yeah, I know, but I wanted specifics, the process intrigues me :saint:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:09 pm

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Seriously though, this thing's a serious work of art, it's magnificent :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:25 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Microraptor » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:32 pm

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This is gorgeous. Bit of a derpy cheetah face, but i'll take it.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:36 pm

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Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:37 pm

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Microraptor wrote:This is gorgeous. Bit of a derpy cheetah face, but i'll take it.

At least you get 3, but he did have a rather derpy face sometimes (and it's those we remember most fondly ;) )

Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.

Yup ;)^
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:39 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.

Yup ;)^
This Cheetor is a cheater.

Or rather, this Cheetus is gonna cheat us.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:44 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.

Yup ;)^
This Cheetor is a cheater.

Or rather, this Cheetus is gonna cheat us.

Nah, it looks way better this way, and reconciles the two different designs (beast/bot, as they are noticeably different in the show)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:49 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.

Yup ;)^
This Cheetor is a cheater.

Or rather, this Cheetus is gonna cheat us.

Nah, it looks way better this way, and reconciles the two different designs (beast/bot, as they are noticeably different in the show)
True, but it's still cheating. Beneficial cheating, but cheating nonetheless.

Just like MP-1's and MP-10's two truck grills.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:52 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.

Yup ;)^
This Cheetor is a cheater.

Or rather, this Cheetus is gonna cheat us.

Nah, it looks way better this way, and reconciles the two different designs (beast/bot, as they are noticeably different in the show)
True, but it's still cheating. Beneficial cheating, but cheating nonetheless.

Just like MP-1's and MP-10's two truck grills.

But, isn't better this way? They're MP's, shouldn't they do anything to look their best?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:52 pm

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Yes, you do.

I'm not fully happy with this, but I'm 99% sure that's due to lack of final colors.

No, I really don't. I was left disappointed with the Generations incarnations, which made me appreciate the originals even more. Considering I have a nearly complete BW, BWII and BW Neo collection, adding Masterpieces into the equation doesn't really achieve anything.

Fair enough. Sounds nutty to me, but I'm well aware of how nutty many others consider my own opinions.

Very little if my own BW collection has withstood the test of time, or even survived, so this stuff is the bees knees to me.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Burn » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:18 pm

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Burn wrote:...Tempted to cancel my pre-order for Primal, not to put my money towards this, but because I really don't think I need Beast Wars Masterpieces.

Yes, you do.

I'm not fully happy with this, but I'm 99% sure that's due to lack of final colors.

No, I really don't. I was left disappointed with the Generations incarnations, which made me appreciate the originals even more. Considering I have a nearly complete BW, BWII and BW Neo collection, adding Masterpieces into the equation doesn't really achieve anything.

Fair enough. Sounds nutty to me, but I'm well aware of how nutty many others consider my own opinions.

Very little if my own BW collection has withstood the test of time, or even survived, so this stuff is the bees knees to me.

Way to double post hours apart! :-P
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Blastback » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:28 am

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I passed on Universe Cheetor because the original still holds up so damn well imo, and I had some issues with that one's robot mode.

But yeah, damn, this is just to perfect to ignore. Wow. And consider me on board for Shadow Panther and Tigatron as well. :BOWDOWN:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:24 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Kurona » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:17 am

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Seeing the twi bw mps next to each other really makes me excited.
Are there any pics of them right next to each other, so as to see how they scale?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:28 am

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Kurona wrote:Seeing the twi bw mps next to each other really makes me excited.
Are there any pics of them right next to each other, so as to see how they scale?
They're behind glass display cases set on the different levels we see in the above image, so no side-by-sides.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:34 pm

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Kurona wrote:Seeing the twi bw mps next to each other really makes me excited.
Are there any pics of them right next to each other, so as to see how they scale?
They're behind glass display cases set on the different levels we see in the above image, so no side-by-sides.

Well, it may be the angle, but Cheetor's looking pretty big, and he's further away than primal in the pic :-? :-s
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Whitemest » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:59 pm

Jesus Christ. This is good news for beast wars in general, but WHERE is fan favorite Dinobot? Doesnt even need to be a masterpiece. Im baffled as to why its taken this long.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:08 pm

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Whitemest wrote:Jesus Christ. This is good news for beast wars in general, but WHERE is fan favorite Dinobot? Doesnt even need to be a masterpiece. I'm baffled as to why its taken this long.

-Because it would be difficult to engineer well?

-Because they've been busy catering mp's to the G1 line?

-Because they're also designing most of the figures and planning they're own uses of said figures?

-Because they've had to pick up the slack form hasbro on several UW releases?

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sigma Magnus » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:09 pm

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He'll be here, just be patient. ;)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Kurona » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:15 pm

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Another likely reason could be that they're saving the ones everyone wants for later so those potential buyers can stay invested and buy MPs they may not have even glanced at before.
Like, if they'd done primal, megs and dinobot right off the bat that would be enough for some people so they wouldn't bother with bw mps after that. But since it isn't that way, they now look at Cheetor whereas they might not have before.
Or something.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby skywarp-2 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:36 pm

Well if this is a finite line of all the original Beast Wars 10, then I can see picking them up, as in a way BW is a continuation of G1, and is set in that universe albeit a separate timeline. Of they do manage to do all 10, I hope toyhax does some backing dioramas of the Maximal headquarters and the predacon base as well. That would go nicely on my shelf for the display. I plan to get their G1 stuff once they restock for both my G1 Autobots and Decepticons. If the sheer size of G1 masterpieces bother you, I suggest just getting the intial 3 part more then meets the eye episode characters. Tho, the insecticons, and devastater episodes are also good. Then again just the movie bots would also be a good way to collect and keep the cost down. The original line up to me would include the dinobots and if they do trailbreaker. They should release him with spark plug. As I fondly remember that he was with Trailbreaker a lot in the first season.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:46 pm

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Kurona wrote:Seeing the twi bw mps next to each other really makes me excited.
Are there any pics of them right next to each other, so as to see how they scale?
They're behind glass display cases set on the different levels we see in the above image, so no side-by-sides.

Well, it may be the angle, but Cheetor's looking pretty big, and he's further away than primal in the pic :-? :-s
Cheetor was shorter than Primal, but not by much:

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Whitemest wrote:Jesus Christ. This is good news for beast wars in general, but WHERE is fan favorite Dinobot? Doesnt even need to be a masterpiece. Im baffled as to why its taken this long.
"This long"? The MP Beast Wars releases haven't even started yet. That we're just now seeing the prototype for the second one is typical for the schedule of MP releases. These kinds of quality figures take time to make. Can't rush quality.

Besides, they need all the Masterpiece black magic they can get in order to make Dinobot's transformation work:
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In the meantime, the Henkei! Henkei! Dinobot figure from 2009 was gorgeous!

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Discussion

Postby Kurona » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:54 pm

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skywarp-2 wrote:Well if this is a finite line of all the original Beast Wars 10, then I can see picking them up, as in a way BW is a continuation of G1, and is set in that universe albeit a separate timeline. Of they do manage to do all 10, I hope toyhax does some backing dioramas of the Maximal headquarters and the predacon base as well. That would go nicely on my shelf for the display. I plan to get their G1 stuff once they restock for both my G1 Autobots and Decepticons. If the sheer size of G1 masterpieces bother you, I suggest just getting the intial 3 part more then meets the eye episode characters. Tho, the insecticons, and devastater episodes are also good. Then again just the movie bots would also be a good way to collect and keep the cost down. The original line up to me would include the dinobots and if they do trailbreaker. They should release him with spark plug. As I fondly remember that he was with Trailbreaker a lot in the first season.

I can see them not doing Scorponok and Terrorsaur tbh since they're by far the least loved and seen characters of Beast Wars... And tbh for good reason. Terrorsaur wasn't a great screamer and scorponok was kinda boring. I just find it hard to see them doing them since the other 8 overshadow them so much.

Also... -just- the original MTMTE three-parter? That's, like... 27 characters, not even counting Reflector. And we still haven't got some very prominent players yet - jazz, hound, sunstreaker etc. Talking about MP at least.
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