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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Skids is nice and all. He's very nice and I want him.
But Legacy needs to be frozen and delayed in favor of restocking most of Earthrise. The eBay markup on so many of the characters is obscene, and a lot of us were screwed out of being able to buy much of ER while it was on shelves.
What from the Earthrise mainline is selling at a big markup right now?
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As surmised by some, there appears to be no combiner port to speak of. So basically the advantage here over CW/UW is that this is a Transformer with just 2 modes, which allows it to look it's best in terms of engineering, and it does appear that it will truly only be held on to Menasor by 5 MM ports. Although I'm sure there will have to be a way to integrate a hand accessory (perhaps there will only be ONE possible configuration for this Menasor?)
So basically the individual four Stunticons I imagine will all look really great. Motormaster however is going to make or break this whole concept. I've always been a fan of animation accuracy, but in terms of consistency, I'm breaking my own rule of preference and sticking with my UW Menasor. I know that's not a popular opinion, and objectively the Legacy one will probably better, but it is, what it is.
Also, I think we can put to rest the theory of Hasbro/TT redoing ALL the combiners, as really no other combiner besides Menasor came together in this way. So while I personally don't want redux of any Combiners, except for those that haven't yet been done, I think Menasor is truly going to be a one off.
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As surmised by some, there appears to be no combiner port to speak of. So basically the advantage here over CW/UW is that this is a Transformer with just 2 modes, which allows it to look it's best in terms of engineering, and it does appear that it will truly only be held on to Menasor by 5 MM ports. Although I'm sure there will have to be a way to integrate a hand accessory (perhaps there will only be ONE possible configuration for this Menasor?)
So basically the individual four Stunticons I imagine will all look really great. Motormaster however is going to make or break this whole concept. I've always been a fan of animation accuracy, but in terms of consistency, I'm breaking my own rule of preference and sticking with my UW Menasor. I know that's not a popular opinion, and objectively the Legacy one will probably better, but it is, what it is.
Also, I think we can put to rest the theory of Hasbro/TT redoing ALL the combiners, as really no other combiner besides Menasor came together in this way. So while I personally don't want redux of any Combiners, except for those that haven't yet been done, I think Menasor is truly going to be a one off.
I think they might re do Bruticus, because of the new accuracy trend. But I very much doubt they'll re do any other combiners. Maaaaaaaaaaybe Devastator, as he was rumoured to have been considered for SS86? But he was dropped, so there's clearly something about redoing him that Hasbro didn't like.
That was just updated, not part of the original review...If only he had the instructions
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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
bluecatcinema wrote:
o.supreme wrote:As surmised by some, there appears to be no combiner port to speak of.
There is that metal circle on the back of the robot mode. Maybe the combined form will use a magnet to hold the arm in place?
Nope, he splits in half and likely pegs onto the arm frame. Hopefully the other arm bot splits similarly and we can play Frankenstein
So that Menasor can have a working elbow joint Dragstrip (and the rest) would pretty much have to split in half to achieve that and cartoon accuracy. I, for one, am very excited to see how all this works out!
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o.supreme wrote:That was just updated, not part of the original review...If only he had the instructions
According to one of the TFW leakers the combination instructions are only with Motormaster anyway, so it being a stolen copy doesn't matter in this case
I was going to pass on this, but the figure itself doesn't look bad. It's far from perfect, but it did meet my low expectations. Considering that the Motormaster torso is the worst of Combiner Wars, I don't mind having another option for Menasor. Curious to see the rest of the team and the overall package.
We have our best look yet at the upcoming Transformers Legacy deluxe Drag Strip. In the images below you will get a good look at his robot mode and alt mode from various angles. Including the back, which actually looks too clean for a combiner. The final picture shows that the alt mode splits in half, showing that this will simply be parts to stick onto the menasor arms to give it the G1 animated look. We thank fellow Seibertronian O.Supreme for the heads up regarding the review from PrimevsPrime which these pictures come from.
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they should redeco him as a g1 mirage - has the abdomen pin split already built in.
he looks good and will be interesting to see the rest of the team. Would not be surprised if the first batch featuring non g1 inspired designs (according to the rumours) will be superceded by exclusives and selects featuring more g1 accurate versions
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Interesting. Knowing that Dragstrip splits in two and clips on for Menasor, helps to understand what Motormaster is going need to be capable of and why he's at the leader price point.
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frogbat wrote:they should redeco him as a g1 mirage - has the abdomen pin split already built in.
he looks good and will be interesting to see the rest of the team. Would not be surprised if the first batch featuring non g1 inspired designs (according to the rumours) will be superceded by exclusives and selects featuring more g1 accurate versions
That rumour was false, all the stunticons are G1 toon accurate straight from release.
ThunderThruster wrote:Interesting. Knowing that Dragstrip splits in two and clips on for Menasor, helps to understand what Motormaster is going need to be capable of and why he's at the leader price point.
ThunderThruster wrote:Interesting. Knowing that Dragstrip splits in two and clips on for Menasor, helps to understand what Motormaster is going need to be capable of and why he's at the leader price point.
You mean Commander Class price point
Not only that, but the new $100 2x Leader Commander price point. Not more $80 Commanders (unless you be patient and wait for Black Friday, which I will finally do this year.)
ThunderThruster wrote:Interesting. Knowing that Dragstrip splits in two and clips on for Menasor, helps to understand what Motormaster is going need to be capable of and why he's at the leader price point.
You mean Commander Class price point
Not only that, but the new $100 2x Leader Commander price point. Not more $80 Commanders (unless you be patient and wait for Black Friday, which I will finally do this year.)
This was never confirmed was it? The logic behind the new price point and adding a second Commander was that they wouldn't be doing any more Titans, but we have UT Cybertron Metroplex coming this year so the rumor really loses credibility. Maybe next year, but I think Motormaster will still be $80.
ThunderThruster wrote:Interesting. Knowing that Dragstrip splits in two and clips on for Menasor, helps to understand what Motormaster is going need to be capable of and why he's at the leader price point.
You mean Commander Class price point
Not only that, but the new $100 2x Leader Commander price point. Not more $80 Commanders (unless you be patient and wait for Black Friday, which I will finally do this year.)
the $100 each 2x commander price was only being considered as part of a budgeting plan that included discontinuing the titan class, with the second commander taking its spot in the lineup. As long as we still have titans, we still only have one commander at the $80+inflation pricepoint.
On a separate note, chefatron has posted a video review of kickback, and it includes shots of selects? bw sandstorm with a new mutant mask head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNzzF9ej-3w
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I really wanted Sandstorm to have the normal non-mutant head since the robot head was his true head. He never used the mutant head in any of his appearances.
They could have saved the mutant head for a toy-accurate Scorponok redeco instead.
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Sabrblade wrote:I really wanted Sandstorm to have the normal non-mutant head since the robot head was his true head. He never used the mutant head in any of his appearances.
They could have saved the mutant head for a toy-accurate Scorponok redeco instead.
Oh no, I can already imagine a mix-up causing the toy colors Scorponok to have the normal headsculpt and Sandstorm to have the mutant one.
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Kickback looks to be Reflector/Refraktor-sized, which is EXACTLY what I have wanted for the Insecticons since Siege. I am VERY excited, Bombshell next please.
Drag Strip I still have no strong feelings about. Bot and alt modes look good, but I have mixed feelings about the head sculpt, I don't feel strongly enough about the character to want to replace my CW one, and there's zero chance I'm getting Menasor if he's the Sunbow design. If he goes on sale, I might pick him up.
Also very excited to see Sandstorm though, I was hoping for the other head but this will still do nicely.
It's kind of neat that since Kickback was the last Insecticon to get a Legends scale figure during Prime Wars, he was the First to get a deluxe size in the new series. I just hope that somehow, despite the controversy with Takatoku (now Bandai) designs, they can make new Deluxe Insecticons true enough to the original, but unique enough not to have any legal issues.
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Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
o.supreme wrote:It's kind of neat that since Kickback was the last Insecticon to get a Legends scale figure during Prime Wars, he was the First to get a deluxe size in the new series. I just hope that somehow, despite the controversy with Takatoku (now Bandai) designs, they can make new Deluxe Insecticons true enough to the original, but unique enough not to have any legal issues.
I don't think there are any legal issues per se, toy designs aren't copyrighted the way that media is, and any patents for the original toys would have expired long ago. If anything, Hasbro probably doesn't make toys for those characters because they rarely appeared in any media, with RiD's Chop Shop perhaps the biggest exception.
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