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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:42 am

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Or they'll borrow a mold from computron and retool it to make groove ;)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:03 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Or they'll borrow a mold from computron and retool it to make groove ;)


The sole reason why I'm eager to see Guardian, as it would "confirm" Computron being in the works.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:43 pm

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Hisashi Yuki on Unite Warriors Superion, MP Star Saber and "Adventure"


- How did "Combiners" become the theme?
Y: In "Generations" series overseas, popular characters were picked without a particular theme. (Generations figures) are packed with IDW comics overseas, but there wasn't much connection between the characters, their designs and the contents of the comics. Then Hasbro changed their direction and decided to develop a series with the "Combiners" theme and connect the comics to it. TakaraTomy had been suggesting combiners to Hasbro for a while, and this time it was fit for what Hasbro was looking for.

- So the situation is different from when "Generations" Bruticus was developed.
Y: The purpose was to create a high priced product firstly, and Bruticus from the game was selected.

- It seems that the Japanese fans and the overseas fans see "combiners" differently. How was the reaction of the overseas fans?
Y: I think knowledgeable and enthusiastic fans overseas were pleased that they were finally getting combiners. I was at Botcon when "Combiner Wars" was announced, and when the silhouettes were revealed there were cheers.

- How did you proceed with the development of Superion?
Y: Due to the scheduling, 3 or 4 people are working with the products including Superion. Since it was being re-made as a current product, an extra effort seems to have been made to have as few excess parts as possible. The head and the chest plate were excess parts in the original toy, but now they are incorporated into Silverbolt. As for the base mode, it was omitted at the beginning because of the various factors that would have been required to form the runway. The wrist transformation gimmick is an idea which had been thought of a long time ago, but wasn't realised in a product until now.

- This Superion's legs are back-to-front.
Y: It is due to the joint movement. If the nose of the jet is at the back of the leg, it gets in the way when the knee is bent. Though it is possible to combine them back-to front. It is not the official way, however I think using such tricks is also a part of combiner robot fun.

- How did you decide on the direction of Japanese "Unite Warriors" development?
Y: This can be said for "Legends" series as well, but the concept for the current domestic products is that we want (the customers) to remember the Transformers from the past. We do not want someone who had (Transformers toy) long time ago to feel (the new ones are) somewhat wrong. When we first learned of Overseas Superion's specifics, we thought, "huh? There's a wrong guy in the team" (*laugh) So it was decided to make Japanese Superion consisting of all jets.

- How come is it sold as a set?
Y: I believe the concept works only when the five robots are present and they should be to played with as a whole team. Although some in the (developer) team suggested to sell them separately. The 5 robot combiners are to be released one by one this year and because of that they are marketed separately from "Legends". Hasbro's lineup is gearing toward combiner warriors and we are considering developing "Legends" series that is different from the overseas.

- Any other point of interest besides changing a member?
Y: The colour scheme is closer to the cartoon image. Actually I combined the images evoked by the cartoon and the original toy well so that the end result is not too far off from either. I like Hasbro version's black wrists and ankles, but still chose white in accordance with the original. As for the paint applications, I made it as close to the original as possible such as the patterns on the wings. If you are not familiar, they are all minor changes, but I did not want to compromise after we went as far as changing a member to stick to the original. When it comes to the Japanese versions, one of our unofficial objectives is to give them deluxe deco so that the fans all over the world would want them, too. I would be happy if they buy Transformers as souvenirs when they visit Japan. (*laugh)

- Also MP Star Saber is going to be released in March at last.
Y: I was particular about constructing it using the colours of moulded parts. You will notice it when you see the actual item. This is not only because of the cost, but I also wanted it to be a toy that you can play with freely without worrying about chipping the paint. If this concept is received favourably, I think Masterpiece series will be able to have wider range of lineup.

- I was amazed at the volume of it when I handled the sample.
Y: Giving (MP Star Saber) the impression of the volume as close to the original as possible was one of the concepts since the beginning of the development. The people who played (with the original) must have considered it very big and I didn't want them to think it became smaller as a Masterpiece.

- I can't help wondering about Victory Leo....
Y: I'd like to know that as well. (*laughs) In fact I haven't done anything so far. When I developed Star Saber I drew a rough sketch, but I can't go any further until the company gives the green light. This Star Saber is also considered to be the 30th anniversary celebration item, so first of all I hope the people who voted (for Star Saber) or owned Star Saber long time ago will be satisfied with it when they have it in their hands.

- Tell us about your current work.
Y: I am working on the localised series such as "Adventure", "Legends" and "Unite Warriors". As for "Adventure" toys, more colours are added to make them cartoon accurate as well as homage to the past series. Their release dates are not far behind their overseas counterparts, and I hope the Japanese versions will be purchased with confidence. Also, some characters who were not able to release previously will be added to the line up this time. I made Dreadwing's colour scheme closer to his appearance in "Beast Hunters".

- "Adventure" seems to be marketed ambitiously, for example (the toys) are released close to their overseas versions.
Y: We are taking various ambitious approaches such as the way the show is broadcast; as well as showing on Animax, it will be broadcast online so that the viewers will benefit from being able to watch it any time. The preceding show, "Q-Transformer" has been played online more than our expectations.

- This year is the 30th anniversary of Transformers arriving in Japan. What do you suggest the fans to pay attention to?
Y: Firstly I hope you will take notice of "Adventure". The story is interesting, and the picture is bright. It is a typical Transformers show in a good way. There will be many merchandise, too, and I hope you will watch the show and discover your own hero. (note by Sydney: in the original text,Mr.Yuki uses the phrase "boku ga erabu boku no hero" (My hero, chosen by me), which was a catch phrase for G1 toy advertisement) Also, the other cartoon, "Q-Transformer" is received favourably by female audience. If "Q" Bumblebee is your favourite, I hope you will take a look at "Adventure" Bumblebee as well.

- Very colourful lineup worthy of the 30th anniversary indeed.
Y: We had 2 major lines last year; "30th Anniversary" and "the Movie". This year we are aiming for a wider variety. I will be happy if you can meet many different kind of Transformers and enjoy them.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:48 pm

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I thought Japan would take to new members of a team :lol:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:57 pm

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Gotta love how Takara is basically admitting, "Yeah, we try to do it correctly when Hasbro changes something."
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:20 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Gotta love how Takara is basically admitting, "Yeah, we try to do it correctly when Hasbro changes something."


So basically Motormaster's team is going to have a Wildrider then.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:50 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Gotta love how Takara is basically admitting, "Yeah, we try to do it correctly when Hasbro changes something."


That was hilarious. And I love it. It keeps answering what all the naysayers are complaining about. You want transformer toys catered to you with premium deco? Just buy Takara, the specific fans who grew up with the products is all they are catering to.

I find it really intereesting how the same toy can be used to cater to two groups of people when its presided over by two different companies.

I am still wondering what they will do with Defensor and Groove under their current mindset.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:33 pm

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Well outside my suggestion that I've mentioned before here (takara groove = hasbro afterburner) I have no idea how takara could pull it off.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:29 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Well outside my suggestion that I've mentioned before here (takara groove = hasbro afterburner) I have no idea how takara could pull it off.
How has no one thought of that already? Good one ;)^
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:53 am

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shajaki wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Well outside my suggestion that I've mentioned before here (takara groove = hasbro afterburner) I have no idea how takara could pull it off.
How has no one thought of that already? Good one ;)^


Some of us have, actually. Then again, the only solid lead we have is that Computron is being considered for next year. That's it.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:57 am

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Here's the interesting thing then, which will be announced/confirmed first?
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:28 am

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Well, guess what: Unite Warriors Menasor has been revealed in Figure King 206:

Magazine scans on TAG Hobby

As expected, Offroad seems to have been nixed in favor of the original Wildrider! As far as I can tell, he's not an original mold, rather like Sling he seems to be a retool, in this case Dead End.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:41 am

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In that tiny picture, it looks like Takara just took a picture of the Hasbro Menasor toys along with a gray prototype of Windrider from the Dead End mold.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:12 am

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Sabrblade wrote:In that tiny picture, it looks like Takara just took a picture of the Hasbro Menasor toys along with a gray prototype of Windrider from the Dead End mold.


Yeah, its totally Hasbro's Menasor, I dont think they will be using purple hands and feet on the final product.

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Postby Desslok2201 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:29 am

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:In that tiny picture, it looks like Takara just took a picture of the Hasbro Menasor toys along with a gray prototype of Windrider from the Dead End mold.


Yeah, its totally Hasbro's Menasor, I dont think they will be using purple hands and feet on the final product.

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Why not? G1 Menasor had purple hands and feet. I'm just waiting for a good look at Wildrider and if he's decent looking and Menasor's horns go black, this is a buy.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:42 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:Why not? G1 Menasor had purple hands and feet.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:47 am

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Oh darn, I didnt know, thought it was just the toy. Ummm... there may be less differences between the deco of the combiner after all. I am really curious to see what takara does with the open chest though, since they dont incorporate the legends figure in their products.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:14 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Oh darn, I didnt know, thought it was just the toy. Ummm... there may be less differences between the deco of the combiner after all. I am really curious to see what takara does with the open chest though, since they dont incorporate the legends figure in their products.


Most likely if Blackjack is planned for Japan, he'll be released in the Transformers Adventure line like Powerglide is. He could even be redecoed as his originally intended character: Runabout.

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:16 pm

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I'm hoping they do more than just give him a new head, but I do like the Dead End mold, a lot. He's one of the more solid designs of the Combiner Wars line, so far.

I was hoping Hasbro's versions of these figures (Slingshot and Wildrider) would be heavily retooled remolds, but I doubt it. Takara's done all of the work for them, so all they really need to do is throw 'em in US packaging and sell 'em.

It's better than nothing, sure, but still... :(

I do know fans are working on replacement arms and wings for both Slingshot and Fireflight so they can be the same mold, but different. I hope they're as good as it sounds.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:17 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Oh darn, I didnt know, thought it was just the toy. Ummm... there may be less differences between the deco of the combiner after all. I am really curious to see what takara does with the open chest though, since they dont incorporate the legends figure in their products.


Most likely if Blackjack is planned for Japan, he'll be released in the Transformers Adventure line like Powerglide is. He could even be redecoed as his original intended character: Runabout.


But still, the fact that he isnt seen as part of this line lets me believe that UW Menasor will sport some interesting chest deco to replace the fact that the little car isnt there. Dont know how they could pull off a G1 deco though, with all those running tubes.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:19 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Oh darn, I didnt know, thought it was just the toy. Ummm... there may be less differences between the deco of the combiner after all. I am really curious to see what takara does with the open chest though, since they dont incorporate the legends figure in their products.


Most likely if Blackjack is planned for Japan, he'll be released in the Transformers Adventure line like Powerglide is. He could even be redecoed as his original intended character: Runabout.


But still, the fact that he isnt seen as part of this line lets me believe that UW Menasor will sport some interesting chest deco to replace the fact that the little car isnt there. Dont know how they could pull off a G1 deco though, with all those running tubes.


They may remold the chest plate underneath. It would work, too. New paint apps, new details, no need for Blackjack, might even be cheaper in the long run. One piece being retooled rather than an entire figure.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:20 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Oh darn, I didnt know, thought it was just the toy. Ummm... there may be less differences between the deco of the combiner after all. I am really curious to see what takara does with the open chest though, since they dont incorporate the legends figure in their products.


Most likely if Blackjack is planned for Japan, he'll be released in the Transformers Adventure line like Powerglide is. He could even be redecoed as his original intended character: Runabout.


But still, the fact that he isnt seen as part of this line lets me believe that UW Menasor will sport some interesting chest deco to replace the fact that the little car isnt there. Dont know how they could pull off a G1 deco though, with all those running tubes.
They could just keep the chest doors closed since those doors already look like Menasor's chest design anyway.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:25 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Oh darn, I didnt know, thought it was just the toy. Ummm... there may be less differences between the deco of the combiner after all. I am really curious to see what takara does with the open chest though, since they dont incorporate the legends figure in their products.


Most likely if Blackjack is planned for Japan, he'll be released in the Transformers Adventure line like Powerglide is. He could even be redecoed as his original intended character: Runabout.


But still, the fact that he isnt seen as part of this line lets me believe that UW Menasor will sport some interesting chest deco to replace the fact that the little car isnt there. Dont know how they could pull off a G1 deco though, with all those running tubes.


They may remold the chest plate underneath. It would work, too. New paint apps, new details, no need for Blackjack, might even be cheaper in the long run. One piece being retooled rather than an entire figure.


In case you haven't noticed, when closed Menasor's chest kinda resembles the Roller Car :)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:38 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Oh darn, I didnt know, thought it was just the toy. Ummm... there may be less differences between the deco of the combiner after all. I am really curious to see what takara does with the open chest though, since they dont incorporate the legends figure in their products.


Most likely if Blackjack is planned for Japan, he'll be released in the Transformers Adventure line like Powerglide is. He could even be redecoed as his original intended character: Runabout.


But still, the fact that he isnt seen as part of this line lets me believe that UW Menasor will sport some interesting chest deco to replace the fact that the little car isnt there. Dont know how they could pull off a G1 deco though, with all those running tubes.


They may remold the chest plate underneath. It would work, too. New paint apps, new details, no need for Blackjack, might even be cheaper in the long run. One piece being retooled rather than an entire figure.


In case you haven't noticed, when closed Menasor's chest kinda resembles the Roller Car :)


Indeed. I'd like to see how it looks with Takara's paint apps all over it. However, with these kits I'm about to show you, it might not matter, because these look to fix some issues, especially with Menasor.

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:46 pm

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Indeed. I'd like to see how it looks with Takara's paint apps all over it. However, with these kits I'm about to show you, it might not matter, because these look to fix some issues, especially with Menasor.

Menasor

Superion

The two together

Click back and forth to see all the pictures from each item's gallery, it's worth it.


I am really surprised they didnt give superion white hands to match his G1 deco since the whole point of the set seems to make these more accurate.
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