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[Galvamegs]

Captain Kirk seems like the most fun, coolest Captain to serve under. He's laid back. Him and his crew get to wear different colored uniforms, not those one-piece outfits. Those pants look really comfortable; I like how they flair out at the ankles. Also, they get to wear more than one hat. Kirk is not only Captain but he's also head of security. Spock is not only First Officer but also the Science officer. Everything was so loose and easy-going. All the iterations of Star Trek afterwards were too structured, unisex, with people walking around like they have a broomstick shoved up their booties.

[OptimusN1701]

I'm pretty sure either Sulu or Chekov were chief of security, not Kirk...

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Captain Kirk seems like the most fun, coolest Captain to serve under. He's laid back. Him and his crew get to wear different colored uniforms, not those one-piece outfits. Those pants look really comfortable; I like how they flair out at the ankles. Also, they get to wear more than one hat. Kirk is not only Captain but he's also head of security. Spock is not only First Officer but also the Science officer. Everything was so loose and easy-going. All the iterations of Star Trek afterwards were too structured, unisex, with people walking around like they have a broomstick shoved up their booties.

I explained this to you before.
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Kirk was never the head of security on his enterprise.

in the mid 2260s, the role of security chief was combined with that of the chief tactical officer. Thats the guy who fires the weapons on the ship..............the tactical officer could be a separate position or be combined with that of helmsman or navigator

Ensign Pavel Chekov was the security head on the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) and USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-A)

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I liked Archer as well. Mostly because I'm a Scott Bakula fan, but also, he was a fresh change from Janeway and he wasn't really stiffled by Federation rules.

I pretty much agree with Burn. Archer was so new and fresh. It was also nice to see them bumble around space without the asurity of the federation backing them up. Also, I positively hated Sisko, and I found Janeway only partially enjoyable. Archer was the first captain since Picard that I enjoyed watching.

dont get me wrong, i liked archer fine, hes just not my fav

Sisko always came off as a little too arrogant for my liking, so I never watched much of DS9.

Plus being a dick to Picard in the very first episode kinda left a lasting bad taste in my mouth.

too arrogant.............Sisko?
no more so then James T Kirk

as to how he treated Picard, how would you react/feel being faced with the guy that killed your wife/husband/child?

[OptimusN1701]

A valid point. Though it's not as though he was a willing participant in his assimilation and actions at Wolf 359.


By the way, nice to see you're still here, Sto. It's been far too long.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

A valid point. Though it's not as though he was a willing participant in his assimilation and actions at Wolf 359.


By the way, nice to see you're still here, Sto. It's been far too long.

someone that had some kind of relationship with Picard before hand may have found it easier to forgive or overlook that he was used as a puppet

and its good to see you too, how/where you been?

[Galvamegs]

Kirk beat up Chekov.

[Burn]

Kirk beat up Chekov.

Is there a point to this comment or are you just spamming?

[Blast Cannon]

Picard is THE captain of the Enterprise for me. Perhaps it's a generational thing because he was captain as I was growing up but even with hindsight Picard still comes out on top. There was no doubt that he was in charge and knew exactly what to do in any given situation.He had an aura of complete control and I think that's very important in a position of leadership. He was completely logical in every decision he made and frequently 'out thought' his opponent.

In the movies he wasn't afraid of getting his hands dirty either but the differences between his TV and movie personalities is a debate for another time.

[Galvamegs]

Kirk beat up Chekov.

Kirk is bad-ass because he can beat up his own head of security.

Picard could not beat up Warf or even Yar.

Kirk beat Spock in a fight. Picard could not beat Riker in a fight.

[OptimusN1701]

A valid point. Though it's not as though he was a willing participant in his assimilation and actions at Wolf 359.


By the way, nice to see you're still here, Sto. It's been far too long.

someone that had some kind of relationship with Picard before hand may have found it easier to forgive or overlook that he was used as a puppet

and its good to see you too, how/where you been?

I've been alright. Finished pharmacy school and have been working the last couple of years. Hope things are going well with you.

[OptimusN1701]

Kirk beat up Chekov.

Kirk is bad-ass because he can beat up his own head of security.

Picard could not beat up Warf or even Yar.

Kirk beat Spock in a fight. Picard could not beat Riker in a fight.

When the hell did he beat up Spock?

[Galvamegs]

Kirk beat up Chekov.

Kirk is bad-ass because he can beat up his own head of security.

Picard could not beat up Warf or even Yar.

Kirk beat Spock in a fight. Picard could not beat Riker in a fight.

When the hell did he beat up Spock?

[RAR]

Kirk is lucky he gets an epic battle theme every time he has a fist fight in some sand.

Speaking of Kirk I'm currently reading the Star Trek Novel that has Kirk along side a time travelling Seven of Nine.

Kirk is a better Captain than Picard because he has people skills. Picard told Riker that he's not good with children and he needs him to keep up his image. Also Kirk was also head of security and led the away teams. Riker won't let Picard off the ship; Picard needs Riker's permission.

Incidentally Lt Commander Barry Giotto was the head of the Security on the Enterprise (in TOS ep 'Devil in the dark' and in at least 3 TOS Pocket Book Novels) though Ensign/Lt Jerry Freeman also served in that role in some episodes. Specifically : "Trials and Tribble-ations" & he also features in : "And the Children Shall Lead" and the TOS Novel : 'My Enemy, My Ally'

Also the Actor who played him (Paul Baxley) was William Shatner's Stunt Double so in a way Kirk was the security chief all be in a very round-about way

[Incidentally that was a joke for anyone feeling pedantic].

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

A valid point. Though it's not as though he was a willing participant in his assimilation and actions at Wolf 359.


By the way, nice to see you're still here, Sto. It's been far too long.

someone that had some kind of relationship with Picard before hand may have found it easier to forgive or overlook that he was used as a puppet

and its good to see you too, how/where you been?

I've been alright. Finished pharmacy school and have been working the last couple of years. Hope things are going well with you.

thats great, congrads

as for me, I dont remember if you were around when I my right leg was removed, there were some pretty dark times, but im on the rebound.

i learned to walk and drive again with my prosthetic leg...and i finally qualified for the kidney transplant list

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Picard is THE captain of the Enterprise for me. Perhaps it's a generational thing because he was captain as I was growing up but even with hindsight Picard still comes out on top. There was no doubt that he was in charge and knew exactly what to do in any given situation.He had an aura of complete control and I think that's very important in a position of leadership. He was completely logical in every decision he made and frequently 'out thought' his opponent.

In the movies he wasn't afraid of getting his hands dirty either but the differences between his TV and movie personalities is a debate for another time.

why not now?

Kirk beat up Chekov.

no he really didnt
but he could have

Kirk beat Spock in a fight.

nope, that never happened.

Im likely to get in trouble for this...............but only a ignoramus would try such an argument with out knowing how that fight ends

did you ever see this episode?

Kirk lost that fight

[Galvamegs]

Kirk knocked out Khan:



Spock was going to get killed and overpowered by Khan.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Incidentally Lt Commander Barry Giotto was the head of the Security on the Enterprise (in TOS ep 'Devil in the dark' and in at least 3 TOS Pocket Book Novels) though Ensign/Lt Jerry Freeman also served in that role in some episodes. Specifically : "Trials and Tribble-ations" & he also features in : "And the Children Shall Lead" and the TOS Novel : 'My Enemy, My Ally'

Also the Actor who played him (Paul Baxley) was William Shatner's Stunt Double so in a way Kirk was the security chief all be in a very round-about way

[Incidentally that was a joke for anyone feeling pedantic].

let me start by sayin....... nice catch on Freeman
i forgot about these guys

but for the record, therees no canon information that states Giotto ever held the title of head of the Security on the Enterprise

Lieutenant Commander Giotto was one of the ship's security officers...but they never clearly said he was the boss.Giotto was played by actor Barry Russo, who also played Commodore Robert Wesley.

as for Freeman, I dont think he was the "head" during the TOS episode "The Trouble with Tribbles", mainly because he was one of the guys arrested by enterprise security

if he wasnt the boss in that tos episode, then he could not have been in the ds9 EPISODE "Trials and Tribble-ations"

Freeman was credited as "security chief" in the credits for "Assignment: Earth" but went unmentioned in the episode

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Kirk knocked out Khan:



Spock was going to get killed and overpowered by Khan.

debatable.
Kirk was about to loose that fright till he used that pipe handle to ko Khan

not much different then how Spock got the upper hand.

[Burn]

Kirk knocked out Khan:



Spock was going to get killed and overpowered by Khan.

And is there a point to this or are you spamming again?

[Galvamegs]

The point is G1 Star Trek is the best.

Just like G1 Star Wars is the best with Darth Maul, Anakin Skywalker, Queen Amydala, Ja-ja binks, Master Windu who should have killed Darth Sidious to give us the fairytale ending with Anakin and Padme.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The point is G1 Star Trek is the best.

Just like G1 Star Wars is the best with Darth Maul, Anakin Skywalker, Queen Amydala, Ja-ja binks, Master Windu who should have killed Darth Sidious to give us the fairytale ending with Anakin and Padme.

are you really that poorly informed?

Darth Maul, Queen Amydala, Ja-ja binks, Master Windu , are all "G2" Star Wars
yes,those films were prequels, stories set in the past , but they are the 2nd generation of star wars movies

"G1" Star Wars was from the 70's and 80s, yoda,Lando Luke and Han

[Galvamegs]

The original crew had it the best. Kirk could pretty much hit on any female crew member he wanted. He had a yeoman that he could grab and hold when the ship was about to collide with something. Future iterations did not have a yeoman. He could kill or strand crew members at his discretion (eg. "Where no man has gone before"). Back then when the captain controlled the ship, he pretty much could do whatever he wanted. He did not have Starfleet looking over his shoulder.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The original crew had it the best. Kirk could pretty much hit on any female crew member he wanted. He had a yeoman that he could grab and hold when the ship was about to collide with something. Future iterations did not have a yeoman. He could kill or strand crew members at his discretion (eg. "Where no man has gone before"). Back then when the captain controlled the ship, he pretty much could do whatever he wanted. He did not have Starfleet looking over his shoulder.

"Kirk could kill any crew member he wanted?
"Kirk did not have Starfleet looking over his shoulder?

original trek episode "Court martial", Captain James T. Kirk drew a general court martial at Starbase 11, over the alleged murder of his records officer, Lieutenant Commander Benjamin Finney. This marked the first time a Starfleet starship captain stood trial in a court martial. Kirk was cleared of all charges when it was revealed that Finney had actually faked his own death.

so, Kirk was not allowed to kill who ever he wanted, and starfleet put him on trail, so they were looking over his shoulder

you obviously know as much about star trek as you do other things....meaning you know nothing about them.

[Galvamegs]

Gene Roddenberry liked Star Trek: The Original series the best. He was the creator of Star Trek; he knows Star Trek better than anyone.

I knew Gene Roddenberry and you're no Gene Roddenberry.