Universe Wave 4 galleries are up (Cyclonus, Hound, Cheetor, Ravage and more)!

Wow, Cheetor is hideous

I'm very glad that Ravage can fit inside the TCF Soundwave (as opposed requiring the oversized chest of the Toys R Us reissue).

Wish we could see some pictures of how Cyclonus and Galvy would look with Titanium Scourge though. I guess that'll just be something to look forward to when I finally get the guy myself.

I'm giving Cheetor to my daughter. She likes transforming animals. I don't.

Gonna have to get me another Cyclonus and sharpie it up. Another awesome set of galleries Ryan. Sorry if you have already answered this, but did you have much photography experience before starting the site? Cause you do some incredible work.

Excellent galleries!

But, wow....Cheetor is just...terrible. I considered buying him the other day when I found him at a store, but now I'm very glad I didn't. This figure was so very badly designed. The original is actually far better.

If they repaint it as Tigatron, I *might* decide to get it. But Tigatron really deserves his own mold, which I would buy in a heartbeat....

I saw Cyclonus the other day and should have bought him. The more I see of him, especially with Ryan's latest gallery of him, the more I'm liking what I see. He and Hound may be the best deluxe figures to date. Bravo!

I sure hope I get some $ for my birthday this year or I may not be able to get him. (That sure sounds odd coming from a 36 year old man-how sad)

Excellent galleries.

I don't know, Cheetor is looking better to me. Maybe it's just how his face looks older, more mature to me now that I can see it. Hound and Cyclonus look good.

Poor old G1 Cyclonus look so clunky compared to his 'upgrade'!

Speaking of 'upgrades', was there a specific decision not to include the Botcon Cyclonus in the comparison shots?

Cyclonus looks great ... Cheetor not so much

Cheetor is a pretty cool figure. I like him.

Ryan, nice job with the galleries. Did you touch up any areas of Cyclonus with the sharpie besides his face? I hadn't thought of doing that yet, but I think I might have to give it a try. Looks great. Although, I should wait until I find another Cyclonus in case I mess it up.

I just got Cyclonus yesterday. It is, by far, the best in the Classics line so far. I am completely blown away! Good job Hasbro. Now, if we could only get a cannon version of Galvatron.

I know, picky picky.

Oh, and great job on the galleries as always!

Barrelass wrote:Gonna have to get me another Cyclonus and sharpie it up. Another awesome set of galleries Ryan. Sorry if you have already answered this, but did you have much photography experience before starting the site? Cause you do some incredible work.

I really got into photography because of this site. I started doing galleries 5 years ago this week ... the first ones to get the gallery treatment were Masterpiece Convoy (MP-01), Binaltech Smokescreen and Binaltech Sideswipe. The galleries have come a long ways since I first started doing them 5 years ago. 119,978+ images and 1,640 galleries later ...

Check out some of the older galleries. You can definitely tell how much my style has changed.

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/index.ph ... rderby=new

Cheetron wrote:Excellent galleries.

I don't know, Cheetor is looking better to me. Maybe it's just how his face looks older, more mature to me now that I can see it. Hound and Cyclonus look good.

The only thing I don't like about Cheetor is his arms. The rest of him I think offers a unique, more serious, look than his original incarnation. I just can't believe that that was the best they could do with his arms.

I'm very interested in seeing what they did with Dinobot ...

As for the possibility of Cheetor being repainted into Tigatron, I think it's probably a given at some point. Though after having a really nice alt mode for Cheetor with this new version, I have to really question what they were trying to do with the original version which had more of a tiger mode to begin with. It definitely wasn't very "cheetah" like. It'd be interesting to see Tigatron with a more "cheetah" like mode.

Estall1 wrote:Poor old G1 Cyclonus look so clunky compared to his 'upgrade'!

Speaking of 'upgrades', was there a specific decision not to include the Botcon Cyclonus in the comparison shots?

Time and availability. I've got Botcon Cyclonus boxed away at the moment and really didn't feel that he needed comparison pics with that version. Now the one that I really wanted to comparison pics of was the new Hound with Alternator Hound but what can you do ... I needed to get these galleries up and as it was it took me almost 4 weeks to do it. There is a gallery of Botcon Cyclonus if you wanted to post pictures for the sake of comparison side-by-side.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... lonus/669/

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Cheetor is a pretty cool figure. I like him.

Ryan, nice job with the galleries. Did you touch up any areas of Cyclonus with the sharpie besides his face? I hadn't thought of doing that yet, but I think I might have to give it a try. Looks great. Although, I should wait until I find another Cyclonus in case I mess it up.

I just did his face and his neck. I originally did his ears but the sharpie ink wouldn't stick to that softer plastic so I used some goo-gone to take it off. It seems to stay on fine with the harder plastic.

Oh man, Cyclonus is so awesome and Hound is great too! Can't wait till these guys make their way to Canada.

hopefully get a... idk, a universe new mold of cliffjumper? that comes with a laserbeak to go with that Ravage!

Hmm, I'd feared Cyclonus' face was sharpied when I saw the first images. The fact that Hasbro didn't paint the face slightly takes away from the coolness, but oh well, still a great figure nonetheless.

I actually think the vehicle mode of the G1 is still better, a lot more sleek and streamlined, but the Universe one still looks good. They had to sacrifice a bit to make such an awesome robot mode, and that's fine by me.

I'd already come to the opinion that U2.0-Cyclonus was vastly better than his G1 counterpart; seeing the two side by side in this gallery only convinces me more of this.

Great work on the galleries!

How is Cylonus' shoulder articulation?

As always, nice galleries Ryan. Just wondering, what kind of sharpie did you use on Cyclonus' face? It make him more evil looking.

Vile MK III wrote:As always, nice galleries Ryan. Just wondering, what kind of sharpie did you use on Cyclonus' face? It make him more evil looking.

Silver Metallic Sharpie
http://www.sharpie.com/enUS/Product/Sha ... arker.html
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000108.php

I've used it to fix up little nicks and scuffs on various figures that have had silver paint worn off of them. It's my new wonder tool. I also used it to make a couple of small modifications like giving Classics Prowl a shiny new set of missiles on his shoulders.

Seibertron wrote:

Vile MK III wrote:As always, nice galleries Ryan. Just wondering, what kind of sharpie did you use on Cyclonus' face? It make him more evil looking.

Silver Metallic Sharpie
http://www.sharpie.com/enUS/Product/Sha ... arker.html
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000108.php

I've used it to fix up little nicks and scuffs on various figures that have had silver paint worn off of them. It's my new wonder tool. I also used it to make a couple of small modifications like giving Classics Prowl a shiny new set of missiles on his shoulders.

Awesome, thanks man. I can already think of a bunch of TFs that need some fixing on their silver paint apps. Thanks Ryan!

Anyone Sharpie up the little missles attached to Ravage that came with Hound yet? If so, could you post a pic, or tell me if it is worthwhile?

Cyclonus - AWESOME!!!
Hound and Ravage - AWESOME!!!
Starscream - AWESOME!!!

Cheeto - pass

I'm surprised nobody's jumping all over what a crappy repaint Starscream is. For starters, it's almost a G2 whitish color instead of the typical grey for Starscream. It has ZERO paint apps except for the head and the wings. It's an extremely cheap repaint ... yet everyone seems to be oddly stating positive statements for it. Now, had this been marketed as a G2 Starscream, I would have been more positive about this figure.

First-time poster to this site, so hi. I love that Hound; he was one of my favorite G1 characters and figs, and this new version looks like it does justice to him.

^ Welcome to the site!

Seibertron wrote:I'm surprised nobody's jumping all over what a crappy repaint Starscream is. For starters, it's almost a G2 whitish color instead of the typical grey for Starscream. It has ZERO paint apps except for the head and the wings. It's an extremely cheap repaint ... yet everyone seems to be oddly stating positive statements for it. Now, had this been marketed as a G2 Starscream, I would have been more positive about this figure.

Maybe we all have the Henkei one already. I dunno, it is a pretty simple repaint but it still looks more like G1 Starscream than the first Classics release. I'm passing simply because I've already got the Henkei. If I didn't, I'd probably go for the Universe one.

What The Feck?
I mean seriously What the fecking Feck?
That's it I'll get the Telemocka reissue instead. Or I buy him and call and let him ring some bells, It'S a what if Quasimodo would be a TF.

kirbenvost wrote:^ Welcome to the site!

Seibertron wrote:I'm surprised nobody's jumping all over what a crappy repaint Starscream is. For starters, it's almost a G2 whitish color instead of the typical grey for Starscream. It has ZERO paint apps except for the head and the wings. It's an extremely cheap repaint ... yet everyone seems to be oddly stating positive statements for it. Now, had this been marketed as a G2 Starscream, I would have been more positive about this figure.

Maybe we all have the Henkei one already. I dunno, it is a pretty simple repaint but it still looks more like G1 Starscream than the first Classics release. I'm passing simply because I've already got the Henkei. If I didn't, I'd probably go for the Universe one.

Only thing that is more "G1" about the new version is the revised paint apps on the wings, which are from the Henkei version. Other than that, the original classic version is a more darker grey like the G1 toy is.

Seibertron wrote:I'm surprised nobody's jumping all over what a crappy repaint Starscream is. For starters, it's almost a G2 whitish color instead of the typical grey for Starscream. It has ZERO paint apps except for the head and the wings. It's an extremely cheap repaint ... yet everyone seems to be oddly stating positive statements for it. Now, had this been marketed as a G2 Starscream, I would have been more positive about this figure.

Allow me...

Achem, Universe Starscream is a piss poor rendition of an otherwise celebrated mold. The complete lack of details, odd choice in primary coloring, and off color red make this toy stand out in ways that make it look like a KO from 10 feet away.

Placing this toy next to the Henkei version will make you feel things inside. If you are able to avoid the massive upheaval you feel brewing deep down in your gut, you might ponder why or even how such a simple toy can draw such a complex reaction.

I refuse to say that Henkei is a superior line to Classics/Universe, but this Universe 2.0 Starscream only keeps me from speaking to that very subject by means of the swell of bile I am attempting to keep down.

Hyperbole? Or just the fair and balanced side?

It's a G1 cartoon accurate repaint of the mold. That's why I'll be buying it. Hell, people are going nuts over the (IMO) slightly naff Henkei Cyclonus, so why not this?

Counterpunch wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I'm surprised nobody's jumping all over what a crappy repaint Starscream is. For starters, it's almost a G2 whitish color instead of the typical grey for Starscream. It has ZERO paint apps except for the head and the wings. It's an extremely cheap repaint ... yet everyone seems to be oddly stating positive statements for it. Now, had this been marketed as a G2 Starscream, I would have been more positive about this figure.

Allow me...

Achem, Universe Starscream is a piss poor rendition of an otherwise celebrated mold. The complete lack of details, odd choice in primary coloring, and off color red make this toy stand out in ways that make it look like a KO from 10 feet away.

Placing this toy next to the Henkei version will make you feel things inside. If you are able to avoid the massive upheaval you feel brewing deep down in your gut, you might ponder why or even how such a simple toy can draw such a complex reaction.

I refuse to say that Henkei is a superior line to Classics/Universe, but this Universe 2.0 Starscream only keeps me from speaking to that very subject by means of the swell of bile I am attempting to keep down.

Hyperbole? Or just the fair and balanced side?

Ah, much better.

Thank you counterpunch you always speak the truth weather we want to hear or not.

BuuuUUUUUH!!!! /Hank Hill

Wow it really does look terrible when they're all side-by-side. I didn't know it was THAT white, it's even worse than the MP.

...yeah, I didn't look at the gallery since I'm not interested in the figure.

Also, well done CP.

Counterpunch wrote:Allow me...

Achem, Universe Starscream is a piss poor rendition of an otherwise celebrated mold. The complete lack of details, odd choice in primary coloring, and off color red make this toy stand out in ways that make it look like a KO from 10 feet away.

Placing this toy next to the Henkei version will make you feel things inside. If you are able to avoid the massive upheaval you feel brewing deep down in your gut, you might ponder why or even how such a simple toy can draw such a complex reaction.

I refuse to say that Henkei is a superior line to Classics/Universe, but this Universe 2.0 Starscream only keeps me from speaking to that very subject by means of the swell of bile I am attempting to keep down.

Hyperbole? Or just the fair and balanced side?

Counterpunch is as sharp as a nail, argue with him and you sure to fail.

Seibertron wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I'm surprised nobody's jumping all over what a crappy repaint Starscream is. For starters, it's almost a G2 whitish color instead of the typical grey for Starscream. It has ZERO paint apps except for the head and the wings. It's an extremely cheap repaint ... yet everyone seems to be oddly stating positive statements for it. Now, had this been marketed as a G2 Starscream, I would have been more positive about this figure.

Allow me...

Achem, Universe Starscream is a piss poor rendition of an otherwise celebrated mold. The complete lack of details, odd choice in primary coloring, and off color red make this toy stand out in ways that make it look like a KO from 10 feet away.

Placing this toy next to the Henkei version will make you feel things inside. If you are able to avoid the massive upheaval you feel brewing deep down in your gut, you might ponder why or even how such a simple toy can draw such a complex reaction.

I refuse to say that Henkei is a superior line to Classics/Universe, but this Universe 2.0 Starscream only keeps me from speaking to that very subject by means of the swell of bile I am attempting to keep down.

Hyperbole? Or just the fair and balanced side?

Ah, much better.

That's why whenever I find him, I'm putting him in the back of my classics seekers and calling him a different name. Henkei SS is my Starscream of choice

I have been waiting for counterpunch to write of one of his amazing articles on the universe transformers classic editions so that we can really know which ones are worth buying and which ones suck ass.

Cheetor is Derek Jeter.

I saw Cyclonus (and Cheetor and Starscream) at Golden Age Collectables a few weeks ago. I passed on getting him, needing as much as my money as I can get my hands on for a trip I'm taking next weekend. I'm pretty sure he's not there anymore. And since A3AU is closed, my next best chance to get him will be if (not when) Wave Four shows up at Toys R Us or Wal-Mart.

I am an idiot.

Here's to hoping they turn up for you then, Darth Bombshell. The entire wave is worth picking up, IMO. Screamer's the only one I haven't bought yet, and I think I should get this one as well. Wasn't too keen on the idea of getting this repaint at first, but it makes total sense that they'd include Starscream in the 25th Anniversary run.

Darth Bombshell wrote:I saw Cyclonus (and Cheetor and Starscream) at Golden Age Collectables a few weeks ago. I passed on getting him, needing as much as my money as I can get my hands on for a trip I'm taking next weekend. I'm pretty sure he's not there anymore. And since A3AU is closed, my next best chance to get him will be if (not when) Wave Four shows up at Toys R Us or Wal-Mart.

I am an idiot.

I know it doesn't help you now, but if you're ever in Richmond check out a store called Beans in Aberdeen mall. I got a Cyclonus there yesterday, but it was the last one. There's always a chance they could get more in the future! Crystal Mall next to Metrotown is worth checking out too, I haven't been there lately though.

I have to say I really dont feel the love with that Starscream repaint, its so very blindly white! Even an ink wash wouldve been nice, just to pick out all the panel lines and details. I got the original Classics version when it originally came out and with a couple of minor touch-ups he suits me just fine.

Im still divided on Cyclonus though, cant decide if I prefer The Classics 2.0/Universe version or Henkei. Its not a case of "which is superior" just a matter of preferance if anything..

Personally I quite like Cheetor.. even if he does have a huge back.

zero-kaiser wrote:I have to say I really dont feel the love with that Starscream repaint, its so very blindly white! Even an ink wash wouldve been nice, just to pick out all the panel lines and details. I got the original Classics version when it originally came out and with a couple of minor touch-ups he suits me just fine.

Im still divided on Cyclonus though, cant decide if I prefer The Classics 2.0/Universe version or Henkei. Its not a case of "which is superior" just a matter of preferance if anything..

Personally I quite like Cheetor.. even if he does have a huge back.

I'll be getting both because they're so unique but I definitely prefer the Hasbro version after I took a silver metallic sharpie to his face.

Seibertron wrote:I'll be getting both because they're so unique but I definitely prefer the Hasbro version after I took a silver metallic sharpie to his face.

That was a stroke of genius if you ask me. What made you think of that? I'll be doing it to mine one of these days (once I find my silver sharpie....)

Iron Prime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I'll be getting both because they're so unique but I definitely prefer the Hasbro version after I took a silver metallic sharpie to his face.

That was a stroke of genius if you ask me. What made you think of that? I'll be doing it to mine one of these days (once I find my silver sharpie....)

Because I can't stand it when the faces are unpainted. I'd rather have a blue faced Ironhide than an unpainted face. Actually, come to think of it, it was the blue faced Ironhide that made me want to try the silver sharpie in the first place. The painted faces also photograph much better than unpainted ones.

Unpainted versus Sharpie

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery. ... &start=120

Seibertron wrote:Because I can't stand it when the faces are unpainted. I'd rather have a blue faced Ironhide than an unpainted face. Actually, come to think of it, it was the blue faced Ironhide that made me want to try the silver sharpie in the first place. The painted faces also photograph much better than unpainted ones.

Agreed. The face is an key aspect to the overall look of the toy. An painted face can drastically change my impression of an figure, like for Cyclonus, just adding silver to the face makes him look way better. The face is one of the first things I look at on a Transformer.

I just got the Henkei Hound. It is 100 TIMES BETTER! It makes Universe Hound look like a cheap KO.

Seibertron wrote:I'll be getting both because they're so unique but I definitely prefer the Hasbro version after I took a silver metallic sharpie to his face.

...Its times like this I hate have to choose.. lol, Ill probably pick up Hasbro's Cyclonus when he hits shelves over here, then at some point get the Henkei one online and call one of them "and his armada"

zero-kaiser wrote:I have to say I really dont feel the love with that Starscream repaint, its so very blindly white! Even an ink wash wouldve been nice, just to pick out all the panel lines and details. I got the original Classics version when it originally came out and with a couple of minor touch-ups he suits me just fine.

The only reason I'd pass on the Starscream repaint at this point is the very fact the character is Starscream. Even then, I'm fairly sure that the next time I see this figure on a local peg I'll grab it and keep this one carded.

zero-kaiser wrote:Im still divided on Cyclonus though, cant decide if I prefer The Classics 2.0/Universe version or Henkei. Its not a case of "which is superior" just a matter of preferance if anything..

As it aughta be. I'd stick with U2.0, but that's just me. If you'd rather go with Henkei, it should be out of preference.

zero-kaiser wrote:Personally I quite like Cheetor.. even if he does have a huge back.

The only unkind word I have for Cheetor is about that back yer talking about, and even then, I'd take it. The figure's just prime with me...