Transformers Siege Thundercracker and Megatron Case Available at Entertainment Earth

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Apparently Omega is delayed because it failed a drop test. This is coming from Kapow Toys Facebook page courtesy of In Demand toys

transformers_va wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Got my jet fire in the mail today. I’m still undecided on if I’m keeping him, or making a few bucks on eBay.......

That's kinda uncool to say that... there are a lot of other people who have had their order delayed, and you come along with a ho-hum attitude on whether or not you'll even keep him

YRQRM0 wrote:Man, I just don't get what I'm missing about this Megatron, every time I look at him he seems like the weakest mold out of Siege, but everyone seems to love him.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Man, I just don't get what I'm missing about this Megatron, every time I look at him he seems like the weakest mold out of Siege, but everyone seems to love him.

I don't. So far the Siege line has been knocking it out of the park, except for this dud. It's not horrible, but it's the weakest of a near-flawless line.

Rodimus Prime wrote:So far the Siege line has been knocking it out of the park ... a near-flawless line.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Maybe he'd have worked better as a "submarine".

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Man, I just don't get what I'm missing about this Megatron, every time I look at him he seems like the weakest mold out of Siege, but everyone seems to love him.

I don't. So far the Siege line has been knocking it out of the park, except for this dud. It's not horrible, but it's the weakest of a near-flawless line.

Same, he feels like a carry-over from potp, as far as quality and plastic density; plus the design has so many cut-corners that I just find myself liking it less and less

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Because I'm still hoping we see all the Evolution designs from POTP at some point with "deluxe" class Megatron turning into leader class Galvatron

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Because I'm still hoping we see all the Evolution designs from POTP at some point with "deluxe" class Megatron turning into leader class Galvatron

That would have been nice, but I think since there were separate Megatron and Galvatron figures, Voyagers no less, I doubt there were plans for a PoTP leader Megalvatron. Besides, I think Hasbro reserves those special gimmicks to characters *they* think are the "coolest" or most popular. (Hence the PoTP Hot Rodimus Evolution leader figure, which was, quite frankly, severely underwhelming to me.)

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the "leader" class Siege Shockwave, I would have taken a BS vehicle mode at the Voyager price as opposed to what we got, because it couldn't have looked much worse and it would have been almost half price. And they nailed the robot mode so well, my Siege Shockwave is probably staying in robot mode permanently. He's seen vehicle mode only once, just because I wanted to see it for myself in hand. Once again, severely underwhelming.

blackeyedprime wrote:Still feels kind of weird for jetfires backpack to not do much, it could have had a couple of seats in there or be used for storage of some of his bits. I like the two hidden tabs and maybe they can be usedto carry troops into battle but not sure how well that will work out trying to support a deluxe figure hanging off them.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What makes Roddy so underwhelming for you? Is it the Hot Rod component? Takara's bad habit of boring Leader-class Autobots' fistholes a smidgen too wide? *narrows eyes very hard at the Legends Super Ginrai mold* I think of all of them Rodimus is the only one to implement the Evolution gimmick well, and his Rodebago mode beats the heck out of Titrod's IMO.

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the "leader" class Siege Shockwave, I would have taken a BS vehicle mode at the Voyager price as opposed to what we got, because it couldn't have looked much worse and it would have been almost half price. And they nailed the robot mode so well, my Siege Shockwave is probably staying in robot mode permanently. He's seen vehicle mode only once, just because I wanted to see it for myself in hand. Once again, severely underwhelming.

Once again, what makes it underwhelming to you? I'm sincerely curious, since it looks to me like a clever downsize with reworked legs that still passes as a toy raygun to hold - or to blast a convenient exit hole for Skyfire (it's been a few years since I last saw that episode, and Skyfire's smug "I can now" still makes me laugh). And your disregard for the larger modes does not erase their parts' cost or mass
I think they made Shocky Leader-class because A. his evolution design probably adapted more readily to C.O.M.B.A.T. than whatever they had planned for Megs and B. they doubtless wanted to sell Megs opposite Optimus, who was at the Voyager price point.

Mindmaster wrote:What’re the DCPIs/UPCs for Siege Wave 3? I just returned to El Paso, Texas from deployment in Korea and am itching to find Reflector!

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Man, I just don't get what I'm missing about this Megatron, every time I look at him he seems like the weakest mold out of Siege, but everyone seems to love him.

I don't. So far the Siege line has been knocking it out of the park, except for this dud. It's not horrible, but it's the weakest of a near-flawless line.

Same, he feels like a carry-over from potp, as far as quality and plastic density; plus the design has so many cut-corners that I just find myself liking it less and less

This might have been answered before, either here or in the comics forum, but I don't remember. Was the figure designed first, and the comic had to use it, or did the comic character concept get finalized and the toy had to conform to it? (I would think it's the former, I don't see Hasbro bending to IDW's will, but I had to ask.)

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What makes Roddy so underwhelming for you? Is it the Hot Rod component? Takara's bad habit of boring Leader-class Autobots' fistholes a smidgen too wide? *narrows eyes very hard at the Legends Super Ginrai mold* I think of all of them Rodimus is the only one to implement the Evolution gimmick well, and his Rodebago mode beats the heck out of Titrod's IMO.

Well this is the Siege thread, so let's keep it Siege related. All I'll say is that the Hot Rod component was pretty much the only part I liked. I wish it was sold separately.

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the "leader" class Siege Shockwave, I would have taken a BS vehicle mode at the Voyager price as opposed to what we got, because it couldn't have looked much worse and it would have been almost half price. And they nailed the robot mode so well, my Siege Shockwave is probably staying in robot mode permanently. He's seen vehicle mode only once, just because I wanted to see it for myself in hand. Once again, severely underwhelming.

Once again, what makes it underwhelming to you? I'm sincerely curious, since it looks to me like a clever downsize with reworked legs that still passes as a toy raygun to hold - or to blast a convenient exit hole for Skyfire (it's been a few years since I last saw that episode, and Skyfire's smug "I can now" still makes me laugh). And your disregard for the larger modes does not erase their parts' cost or mass
I think they made Shocky Leader-class because A. his evolution design probably adapted more readily to C.O.M.B.A.T. than whatever they had planned for Megs and B. they doubtless wanted to sell Megs opposite Optimus, who was at the Voyager price point.

I like the base Shockwave figure itself. I even use the extra parts as a glider. But in vehicle mode, he just doesn't make sense. I know what he's supposed to be, but it's just not Shockwave to me. I don't know, maybe it's G1 bias? I mean, I'm not a Geewunner per se, though I did grow up on it and it's the biggest reason I like Siege so much. It's a true update on G1 figures. (Except Ravage.)

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Skritz wrote:Has QC truly been that bad for Siege? Beside the odd loose single ankle on figures I've had no crummy ones compared to POTP where it seemed like everything was a factory error.

I think they're just perceiving it that way because of brand unification knocking the lenses out of their Cult of Takara goggles.

Only Siege figure I've had QC issues with was my Skytread; everything else has had great QC.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Skritz wrote:Has QC truly been that bad for Siege? Beside the odd loose single ankle on figures I've had no crummy ones compared to POTP where it seemed like everything was a factory error.

I think they're just perceiving it that way because of brand unification knocking the lenses out of their Cult of Takara goggles.

Only Siege figure I've had QC issues with was my Skytread; everything else has had great QC.

Likewise. The only QC issue I've had with Siege is a slightly bent back cannon on Sixgun.

Stargrave wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What makes Roddy so underwhelming for you? Is it the Hot Rod component? Takara's bad habit of boring Leader-class Autobots' fistholes a smidgen too wide? *narrows eyes very hard at the Legends Super Ginrai mold* I think of all of them Rodimus is the only one to implement the Evolution gimmick well, and his Rodebago mode beats the heck out of Titrod's IMO.

Well this is the Siege thread, so let's keep it Siege related. All I'll say is that the Hot Rod component was pretty much the only part I liked. I wish it was sold separately.

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the "leader" class Siege Shockwave, I would have taken a BS vehicle mode at the Voyager price as opposed to what we got, because it couldn't have looked much worse and it would have been almost half price. And they nailed the robot mode so well, my Siege Shockwave is probably staying in robot mode permanently. He's seen vehicle mode only once, just because I wanted to see it for myself in hand. Once again, severely underwhelming.

Once again, what makes it underwhelming to you? I'm sincerely curious, since it looks to me like a clever downsize with reworked legs that still passes as a toy raygun to hold - or to blast a convenient exit hole for Skyfire (it's been a few years since I last saw that episode, and Skyfire's smug "I can now" still makes me laugh). And your disregard for the larger modes does not erase their parts' cost or mass
I think they made Shocky Leader-class because A. his evolution design probably adapted more readily to C.O.M.B.A.T. than whatever they had planned for Megs and B. they doubtless wanted to sell Megs opposite Optimus, who was at the Voyager price point.

I like the base Shockwave figure itself. I even use the extra parts as a glider. But in vehicle mode, he just doesn't make sense. I know what he's supposed to be, but it's just not Shockwave to me. I don't know, maybe it's G1 bias? I mean, I'm not a Geewunner per se, though I did grow up on it and it's the biggest reason I like Siege so much. It's a true update on G1 figures. (Except Ravage.)

I think of the Decepticon vehicles like Tron vehicles - there’s not a focus on aerodynamics it’s different to be sure but Shockwave? Just turn him upside down and he’s the spittin’ image of his G1 toy I mean he’s a gun. He’s a gun they flipped upside down but we all know what it is. And unlike Megatron they just said ok he’s going to be a gun just flip him over. Because he’s a gun. A tiny gun, but a gun.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Skritz wrote:Has QC truly been that bad for Siege? Beside the odd loose single ankle on figures I've had no crummy ones compared to POTP where it seemed like everything was a factory error.

I think they're just perceiving it that way because of brand unification knocking the lenses out of their Cult of Takara goggles.

Only Siege figure I've had QC issues with was my Skytread; everything else has had great QC.

Likewise. The only QC issue I've had with Siege is a slightly bent back cannon on Sixgun.

Ironhidensh wrote:Got my jet fire in the mail today. I’m still undecided on if I’m keeping him, or making a few bucks on eBay.......



I really kinda want this guy, but the Siege line has been so incredibly disappointing to me, I’m afraid of opening it and being let down.

Stargrave wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Apparently Omega is delayed because it failed a drop test. This is coming from Kapow Toys Facebook page courtesy of In Demand toys

Shoot Chuck I checked both Kapow and In Demand and I'm not seeing it anywhere. Do you think they took it down or am I not looking in the right place maybe?

Cyberpath wrote:Gotta say, other than Masterpiece, SIEGE has to be the best line yet. The likeness is good, there's attention to scale in robot-mode, the decos are more precise than before (for Hasbro), they keep getting creative with the transformation steps, and.. it's fun! All those pegs ports and different options, and the Weaponizers... Hasbro also seems determined to complete the cast.
CW forced everyone into combiners -- and TR, while I appreciated getting the Rebirth cast, forcing the Headmaster gimmick on everyone was frustrating -- and PP was kind of without real identity and more like leftover of the former two run. Siege feels more cohesive. The war paint doesn't even bother me anymore.

Cyberpath wrote:Gotta say, other than Masterpiece, SIEGE has to be the best line yet. The likeness is good, there's attention to scale in robot-mode, the decos are more precise than before (for Hasbro), they keep getting creative with the transformation steps, and.. it's fun! All those pegs ports and different options, and the Weaponizers... Hasbro also seems determined to complete the cast.
CW forced everyone into combiners -- and TR, while I appreciated getting the Rebirth cast, forcing the Headmaster gimmick on everyone was frustrating -- and PP was kind of without real identity and more like leftover of the former two run. Siege feels more cohesive. The war paint doesn't even bother me anymore.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Skritz wrote:Has QC truly been that bad for Siege? Beside the odd loose single ankle on figures I've had no crummy ones compared to POTP where it seemed like everything was a factory error.

I think they're just perceiving it that way because of brand unification knocking the lenses out of their Cult of Takara goggles.

Only Siege figure I've had QC issues with was my Skytread; everything else has had great QC.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Man, just tried to buy a Springer I finally found at Target after getting out of Spider-Man: Far From Home, but got stopped by a streetdate of 7/28. I don't remember the streetdate people mentioned being that late in July. Was that the streetdate everyone else was hit with, or has it been pushed back even later??

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Man, just tried to buy a Springer I finally found at Target after getting out of Spider-Man: Far From Home, but got stopped by a streetdate of 7/28. I don't remember the streetdate people mentioned being that late in July. Was that the streetdate everyone else was hit with, or has it been pushed back even later??

Yes, it was always that late, same as the pre-order date on the site

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.

No response they might realistically give will give me what I actually want, which is to be able to buy Springer from them right now. Plus, there's a likelyhood they'd reprimand or punish the employees at that store, and I don't want anyone there to be punished for such a small mistake as accidentally putting something on the shelf that shouldn't have been yet.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.

No response they might realistically give will give me what I actually want, which is to be able to buy Springer from them right now. Plus, there's a likelyhood they'd reprimand or punish the employees at that store, and I don't want anyone there to be punished for such a small mistake as accidentally putting something on the shelf that shouldn't have been yet.

You could at least get an answer from Hasbro as to why the streetdate is even there in the first place, and an answer from Target as to why they're abiding by it when their biggest competitor isn't. Don't want to get someone in trouble? Just tell Target you've heard this is happening, don't name the specific store or anything.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.

No response they might realistically give will give me what I actually want, which is to be able to buy Springer from them right now. Plus, there's a likelyhood they'd reprimand or punish the employees at that store, and I don't want anyone there to be punished for such a small mistake as accidentally putting something on the shelf that shouldn't have been yet.

You could at least get an answer from Hasbro as to why the streetdate is even there in the first place, and an answer from Target as to why they're abiding by it when their biggest competitor isn't. Don't want to get someone in trouble? Just tell Target you've heard this is happening, don't name the specific store or anything.

Given how many people have experienced the streetdate problem, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already tried to contact Hasbro or Target about it, and given that we haven't gotten word of an explanation for the streetdate, I'm guessing the answer wasn't really clear or meaningful. Plus, contacting customer service of any kind is incredibly draining for me. I'll just wait for the streetdate to pass or get Springer online.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.

No response they might realistically give will give me what I actually want, which is to be able to buy Springer from them right now. Plus, there's a likelyhood they'd reprimand or punish the employees at that store, and I don't want anyone there to be punished for such a small mistake as accidentally putting something on the shelf that shouldn't have been yet.

You could at least get an answer from Hasbro as to why the streetdate is even there in the first place, and an answer from Target as to why they're abiding by it when their biggest competitor isn't. Don't want to get someone in trouble? Just tell Target you've heard this is happening, don't name the specific store or anything.

Given how many people have experienced the streetdate problem, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already tried to contact Hasbro or Target about it, and given that we haven't gotten word of an explanation for the streetdate, I'm guessing the answer wasn't really clear or meaningful. Plus, contacting customer service of any kind is incredibly draining for me. I'll just wait for the streetdate to pass or get Springer online.

Self check-out is your friend. Take Springer and another voyager up to self checkout. Scan the other voyager, put springer in your bag. Now you have a springer

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Woohoo! My Jetfire is out for delivery!!!!

Short Circuit wrote:I got Jetfire in and man, Commander class feels like the old surpreme class! I felt like a kid opening his armada Unicron again. He's nice and hefty. Totally met my expectations. I love that he can fit 2-3 titan masters and the fireblast effects look great as he towers over the 84 cast.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My local Target in Ann Arbor, MI had Battle Masters on clearance for $2.98.
Meijer had them on clearance for $4.19 and Micromasters for $6.99.

Was surprised to see this. I picked up one more each of Firedrive and Blowpipe just for the blast effects.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Mine is at home right now waiting for me. Where else can you put the titan masters besides the cockpit?

Short Circuit wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Mine is at home right now waiting for me. Where else can you put the titan masters besides the cockpit?

The rear cockpit/fastpack has two slots that look like they can accommodate titan masters (possibly depending on their head mode sculpt) in Jet mode. If you pull up on the backpack like you do for transformation you can place them in.