Transformers Kingdom Red Alert Available on Hasbro Pulse

Does it have a release date?

Praxiusprime77 wrote:Does it have a release date?

Not necessary. It's in stock right now. I ordered mine and it said they're preparing the shipment right now but preorders (Sweep) will be ready at a later date.

...wow, when was the last time Hasbro put up a Pulse listing for a TF that was actually just in-stock immediately? It feels like it's been forever.

Praxiusprime77 wrote:Does it have a release date?

Yeah, last month. Walgreens simply doesn't sell them till the holiday season. I guess they just sit in warehouses till then.

Secured myself one since I’m currently deployed in Korea and will likely not see one in person. They also had the Sparkless Seeker set so I grabbed one of those too. Mercí, mon ami!

Does it have a release date?

Its been available in the UK for about 2 weeks now. I just assumed that meant everywhere else had too many already lol.

Then again, I got Wingfinger and Scorponok today, and The Ark (whom I've named Garfunkel and given people clothes) yesterday. And we got Transmutate about a month ago. Hasbro doesn't seem to have a favourite country, which is confusing but nice.

Mindmaster wrote:Secured myself one since I’m currently deployed in Korea and will likely not see one in person. They also had the Sparkless Seeker set so I grabbed one of those too. Mercí, mon ami!

De rien, mon frere!

Mistaken_Table wrote:

Does it have a release date?

Its been available in the UK for about 2 weeks now. I just assumed that meant everywhere else had too many already lol.

Then again, I got Wingfinger and Scorponok today, and The Ark (whom I've named Garfunkel and given people clothes) yesterday. And we got Transmutate about a month ago. Hasbro doesn't seem to have a favourite country, which is confusing but nice.

That is nice. And jokes aside, yeah the UK did get some because the US orders are all filled. This toy did indeed come out last month, it's been ready for distribution for a little while. The thing is that in the US, all orders for this toy (except for a few sold directly through Pulse) go to a retailer who won't put this toy up until October, when they do their seasonal toy reset.

Not sure if this is newsworthy or not, but I spotted Commander Rodimus Prime At my local Walmart today up on the top of the shelf. No tags or price anywhere, so I brought it to an employee and it scanned for regular $79.99. Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday, so I put it right back up on the shelf.

I will be stalking my store to see if it lingers and they Walmart things by clearancing him in a week because they can't figure out where to put him.

Amazon Japan has some new Kingdom listings:

Toy Galvatron- https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Transform ... 098FPTNMG/?tag=seibertron00-22&

Sparkless Seeker - https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Transform ... CK3HK0JVNG?tag=seibertron00-22&

Super happy to be able to get Red Alert without having to hunt for him like I do every year. I have five local Walgreens, but had to get help from Cobotron to get Ratchet and thought I would have to do the same with Bluestreak last year but found one pretty late. Thanks, Razor!

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I received notification a bit earlier this evening that the Ark is going to show up real early from Amazon;
THIS Thursday!!!!

^Just curious if you (or anyone else expecting something from Amazon currently) got a shipping notice? Mine still says Rodimus is expected to arrive TODAY by 10pm, but it has neither shipped, nor has my account been charged...I know Amazon has pulled this goofiness before, it is still no less frustrating, especially sometimes when we actually do get items early. I expect the inevitable delay notification any time now...

Yes and no? Yes for my Rodimus, he is on the was I got the shipping notice and is out for delivery.

For the Ark, I pre-ordered immediately when they first opened pre-orders and still haven't even received a shipping notice yet despite a few others being able to pre-order just last week and having at least received a shipping notice.

I was one of the ones who ordered him late and got him Thursday. I have no idea how Amazon prioritizes their orders, it doesn't make any sense to me at all.

As far as panels falling off goes the only ones that give me trouble are the two on the underside of the front. They're also hard to get a grip on to unclip, but I found that if you push down on the front of the ark on each side they'll unhook without falling off.

Whoever makes an upgrade kit to fill in the side gaps are going to have a really easy time of it. The sides of the Ark aren't even attached in the box and just pop on with little effort. They don't fall off, but they can easily be popped back off. Just keep the same basic shape and add a panel that can fold underneath to cover it in Ark mode and sit outside his inner lower legs in bot mode. He really needs new hands, they aren't made to hold weapons and don't look all that natural. I'm guessing they're made just to hold Core figures. Also a shame that the guns are sculpted in and can't be moved at all and they aren't even solid, there's a hole under each of them. Not sure if a third part can made something that snaps over them that looks better or not.

His shoulder ratchets are ridiculously scary to move, they're incredibly tight and make an unnerving sound when you move them.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm impressed and pleased with the amount of retooling Hasbro/Takara have done with Kingdom Pipes from Kingdom Huffer. I didn't realize there were so many people complaining about Huffer, though. He seems pretty great to me, with a very faithful robot and alternate modes to the G1 cartoon. The transformation is pretty simple, except for the arms/smokestacks, which take a little more work, but when you tab everything in correctly, the truck looks fine and rolls perfectly, despite the seemingly low clearance of the "undercarriage" of the truck/robot mode chest. Maybe it's one of those "your mileage may vary" quality control things?

First time I transformed Huffer I couldn't get the truck right, but I went back over what I was doing, found a spot I didn't move far enough and he was perfect after that. I'm sure Pipes will come with two guns since they're his "pipes" and he doesn't come with the flatbed shield.

Nemesis Primal wrote:...wow, when was the last time Hasbro put up a Pulse listing for a TF that was actually just in-stock immediately? It feels like it's been forever.

Last one I can think of is Titans Return Grotusque in 2017 as far as Generations goes.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Not sure if this is newsworthy or not, but I spotted Commander Rodimus Prime At my local Walmart today up on the top of the shelf. No tags or price anywhere, so I brought it to an employee and it scanned for regular $79.99. Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday, so I put it right back up on the shelf.

I will be stalking my store to see if it lingers and they Walmart things by clearancing him in a week because they can't figure out where to put him.

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My Walmart didn't have Rodimus, but they did reset the aisles for the second time in about a month and there's a Commander Class price tag at the bottom right corner.



Strangely they have Kingdom Voyagers as a peg. Not sure if they're done setting things up or not. Seeing Grimlock was a real surprise.

Emerje

Checked a few walgreens last night in a vien attempt to track down Red Alert, no such luck. My target had a Wingfinger's and the repack of Wheeljack, so was close to finding something new but not quite! They also had three copies left of the buzzworthy origin Bumblebee but I'm still not sure if I'm going to bite on it

Origins Bumblebee is so fun and a perfect companion to all the Siege seekers we got. Even though it seems like they made plenty of them, I bet they're going to get very pricey on the secondary market in a couple years or so. If you think you might want it, go for it. If it doesn't speak to you in your soul, though, you're probably fine without it.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Origins Bumblebee is so fun and a perfect companion to all the Siege seekers we got. Even though it seems like they made plenty of them, I bet they're going to get very pricey on the secondary market in a couple years or so. If you think you might want it, go for it. If it doesn't speak to you in your soul, though, you're probably fine without it.

Origins 'bee is easily one of the most fun figures I've bought in a long time, I don't know why, but he's really satisfying, definitely recommend him

Hellscream9999 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Origins Bumblebee is so fun and a perfect companion to all the Siege seekers we got. Even though it seems like they made plenty of them, I bet they're going to get very pricey on the secondary market in a couple years or so. If you think you might want it, go for it. If it doesn't speak to you in your soul, though, you're probably fine without it.

Origins 'bee is easily one of the most fun figures I've bought in a long time, I don't know why, but he's really satisfying, definitely recommend him

It really is. When was the last time Hasbro made a solid, good figure that's universally liked?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It really is. When was the last time Hasbro made a solid, good figure that's universally liked?

Last week?
Because so far, every WFC figures have been a knock out of the park for most people. Even in the SS line, there's few duds. And if you take Cyberverse for what it is, everything is pretty damn solid too.

Seriously, appart for those damn distribution shenanigans, being a TF collector have been amazing in recent years!

AcademyofDrX wrote:Even though it seems like they made plenty of them, I bet they're going to get very pricey on the secondary market in a couple years or so.

I've yet to see one in stores, even when they're listed as in stock on the site, and they sell out on the site instantly (I have alerts set up on the app). I don't know what store restock is going to be like, but I'm a little concerned since I never saw any of the Earthrise exclusives in stores. Haven't seen the Worlds collide set yet either, apparently there's one in stock 35 miles from me and that's tempting...

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It really is. When was the last time Hasbro made a solid, good figure that's universally liked?

Last week?
Because so far, every WFC figures have been a knock out of the park for most people. Even in the SS line, there's few duds. And if you take Cyberverse for what it is, everything is pretty damn solid too.

Tracks is almost universally hated and I thought Deluxe Scorponok was a disappointment.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Tracks is almost universally hated and I thought Deluxe Scorponok was a disappointment.

Emerje

Those are exceptions, not the rule.
Beside, I don't think the opinion about Beast Scorponok is that universal. I'll avoid Tracks but I'm looking forward that Scorpion.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It really is. When was the last time Hasbro made a solid, good figure that's universally liked?

Last week?
Because so far, every WFC figures have been a knock out of the park for most people. Even in the SS line, there's few duds. And if you take Cyberverse for what it is, everything is pretty damn solid too.

Seriously, appart for those damn distribution shenanigans, being a TF collector have been amazing in recent years!

Nope.



WFC wasn't universally liked. For one thing, the "cr@pple-damage" paint divided fans. For me, this was the first TF line that I have bought LESS toys in, due to the awful and unwanted paint apps. The line has also been criticised for bundling figures that we wanted (Fangry, etc) with ones that some didn't.

So, no, WFC isn't really a valid example.

If you want to be that way and be a smart-ass about it, NOTHING can "universally" be liked.
Ever.
The only way that can happen is if all 1000 zillion trillion people on this planet would share a single hivemind like the Borgs or Cybermen.

-Kanrabat- wrote:If you want to be that way and be a smart-ass about it, NOTHING can "universally" be liked.
Ever.
The only way that can happen is if all 1000 zillion trillion people on this planet would share a single hivemind like the Borgs or Cybermen.

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

-Kanrabat- wrote:If you want to be that way and be a smart-ass about it, NOTHING can "universally" be liked.
Ever.
The only way that can happen is if all 1000 zillion trillion people on this planet would share a single hivemind like the Borgs or Cybermen.

Exactly, which is why, as the OP suggested, they're isn't really a TF line that's universally popular, including WFC.

Glad that's dealt with.

Btw, I'm not sure if it's been reported, but the following exclusives are (only?) available in Japan via TT Mall:

- Kingdom BW Grimlock and G1 Mirage - https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810193036/

Kingdom BW2 Skywarp and G1 Sideswipe - https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810193029/

(It's a bit annoying for me, when I don't get a heads-up from the TF news sites, as I don't check TT Mall as often as Amazon Japan, so I sometimes lose out on getting "regular" releasees that are "exclusive" in Japan to TT Mall).

M. Spector wrote:Checked a few walgreens last night in a vien attempt to track down Red Alert, no such luck.

You won't see that toy till October

Looks like there's somewhat of a Pipes review on chefatron's YouTube

I got Red Alert this week while I was on a weekend break in Birmingham, I was not expecting him to get any kind of UK release, but there he was, and a good amount of stock of him too, in a comic book shop called Worlds Apart.


This is the first version of the Siege Sideswipe/Red Alert mould I've owned, and he is pretty good. The transformation is nice and complex without being too much of a pain to do, he looks nice in both modes, and I love the lightbar axe weapon he has. I've also got the Sideswipe and Skywarp pack on pre-order, so it won't be long before I have another version of this mould.

M. Spector wrote:Checked a few walgreens last night in a vien attempt to track down Red Alert, no such luck. My target had a Wingfinger's and the repack of Wheeljack, so was close to finding something new but not quite! They also had three copies left of the buzzworthy origin Bumblebee but I'm still not sure if I'm going to bite on it

Do yourself a favor and don't waste any time trying to find Red Alert at a Walgreens until late October at the earliest. For whatever reason they do not put out their exclusives until they reset their stores for Christmas.

It has been the same thing since TR Brainstorm, the TR Clones, PotP Wreck-gar, Siege Ratchet and ER Bluestreak. Check in store anytime before late October will be a waste of time and gas. I've been there, done that for all the figure I mentioned above, except I finally learned my lesson with Bluestreak.

I think some of the past Walgreens exclusives did come out earlier in the year/season than October, but I do agree, it is only an exercise in frustration at this point. I've never been the first to see them, but once news is reported, it is usually within a couple of days, and I never have issue finding them.

But the fact that Red Alert is available (well was available for a short time at least) on Pulse was a first. It's too bad Pulse doesn't have a "notify me when this is back in stock" feature.

Although, unlike past years, my local Walgreens hasn't really stocked any Transformers since ER Bluestreak sold out. It's been pretty barren.

The Kingdom wave 3 toys I pre-ordered back in May arrived this week, my thoughts on each:

Tracks - I was dreading this one because of the negative buzz he was getting, but he's not that bad. The transformation is a little bit complicated for a Deluxe, and the sides of the car models front don't clip in very well, but he's decent enough in both modes and adds a much needed dash of blue to my mostly red and white G1 Autobot line-up
Scorponok - Actually a lot of fun. Yeah he's short in robot mode, but the transformation is fairly straightforward and the scorpion mode is pretty good. I still don't like the shade of purple they went with though, a different shade would make him look so much better.
Rhinox - He was never going to be as good as the Thrilling 30 version, but I still had a lot if fun with him. While not particularly show accurate in either mode, I still ended up liking the Rhino mode a lot, there's more articulation in the rhino's legs than I thought there would be so you can do a charging pose, and tge robot mode looks good alongside the other Maximals. The only things I don't like are the tiny Chainguns and the ridiculously complicated transformation for the robot legs.

I'm close to done with Kingdom at this point, the only figures I still plan on buying are Waspinator, Tigatron, maybe Inferno, maybe Rodimus, and the Amazon Golden Disk Terrorsaur if it's still happening.

o.supreme wrote:But the fact that Red Alert is available (well was available for a short time at least) on Pulse was a first. It's too bad Pulse doesn't have a "notify me when this is back in stock" feature.

Fortunately, Pulse seems to only update stock once a week. (Friday afternoons, I think?) They send marketing emails whenever it occurs, though of course not every product is updated at each of those times.

Target has the "notify me" feature and it's functionally useless for high demand items, because they restock small quantities and don't have anti-bot features. Personally, I'd rather check multiple products with actual stock once a week than race to buy something via notification every day for weeks and still not be able to check out.

To your point, it would still be nice to have, but it's not as critical as it is for other storefronts.

So I've finally had time to try and enjoy Rodimus Prime and I'm really just kind of meh on him. The bot itself is pretty damn good. If it was a leader on its own without the trailer, I would have been fine with the cost.

The trailer and extras are what is letting me down. First up QC issues, my first one was missing the black blast effects for his exhaust pipes. So I was able to find another and resolve that.

The trailer is where they really messed up this release. It is terribly warped on both copies I have and won't completely close on either one. Making matters worse, I believe the parts that are warped are at least in part due to how Hasbro tied everything down in the package. The tight tiedowns on the pointed corners of the open trailer sides I believe caused the warping. The "better than ER OP trailer" that was needed to push the price up to commander class looks to be a design fail to me.

So here I am really liking the bot, but feeling ripped off because of the trailer, which sucks because lack of space means my figures are in vehicle mode more often than not.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So I've finally had time to try and enjoy Rodimus Prime and I'm really just kind of meh on him. The bot itself is pretty damn good. If it was a leader on its own without the trailer, I would have been fine with the cost.

The trailer and extras are what is letting me down. First up QC issues, my first one was missing the black blast effects for his exhaust pipes. So I was able to find another and resolve that.

The trailer is where they really messed up this release. It is terribly warped on both copies I have and won't completely close on either one. Making matters worse, I believe the parts that are warped are at least in part due to how Hasbro tied everything down in the package. The tight tiedowns on the pointed corners of the open trailer sides I believe caused the warping. The "better than ER OP trailer" that was needed to push the price up to commander class looks to be a design fail to me.

So here I am really liking the bot, but feeling ripped off because of the trailer, which sucks because lack of space means my figures are in vehicle mode more often than not.

I'm still waiting for BBTS to get it in and ship mine. Its getting very annoying. and Amazon no longer has it in stock to order.

I hope mine does not have those issues when it gets here.

My Rodimus should hopefully be here tomorrow.

Ordered from Amazon back in May, for delivery 9/3/21
Last week, I get an update saying it's arriving on 8/12
Late on 8/12, I get an update saying it's been delayed until 8/27
Late last night I get a notification it has actually shipped, and will be here 8/18.

I'll reserve my final judgements when I get the toy. But it seems many people have the same opinion. Personally, I would have been ok with a slightly smaller, simpler Rodimus trailer, keeping it at the Leader Price Point, ala ER Prime. It appears they aimed for something almost too grand in scale. While they got an amazing Rodimus body, the bigger more complex ($40 worth of plastic) trailer seems to be problematic to several who have purchased it.

o.supreme wrote:My Rodimus should hopefully be here tomorrow.

Ordered from Amazon back in May, for delivery 9/3/21
Last week, I get an update saying it's arriving on 8/12
Late on 8/12, I get an update saying it's been delayed until 8/27
Late last night I get a notification it has actually shipped, and will be here 8/18.

I'll reserve my final judgements when I get the toy. But it seems many people have the same opinion. Personally, I would have been ok with a slightly smaller, simpler Rodimus trailer, keeping it at the Leader Price Point, ala ER Prime. It appears they aimed for something almost too grand in scale. While they got an amazing Rodimus body, the bigger more complex ($40 worth of plastic) trailer seems to be problematic to several who have purchased it.

BBTS has it slated for September yes.

o.supreme wrote:My Rodimus should hopefully be here tomorrow.

Ordered from Amazon back in May, for delivery 9/3/21
Last week, I get an update saying it's arriving on 8/12
Late on 8/12, I get an update saying it's been delayed until 8/27
Late last night I get a notification it has actually shipped, and will be here 8/18.

I'll reserve my final judgements when I get the toy. But it seems many people have the same opinion. Personally, I would have been ok with a slightly smaller, simpler Rodimus trailer, keeping it at the Leader Price Point, ala ER Prime. It appears they aimed for something almost too grand in scale. While they got an amazing Rodimus body, the bigger more complex ($40 worth of plastic) trailer seems to be problematic to several who have purchased it.

The thing is, Rodimus himself is probably using up the "leader pricepoint segment" of the figure's price. If he was released, unchanged, as a leader, you wouldn't have gotten a smaller trailer: you would have gotten no trailer at all.

Rtron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:My Rodimus should hopefully be here tomorrow.

Ordered from Amazon back in May, for delivery 9/3/21
Last week, I get an update saying it's arriving on 8/12
Late on 8/12, I get an update saying it's been delayed until 8/27
Late last night I get a notification it has actually shipped, and will be here 8/18.

I'll reserve my final judgements when I get the toy. But it seems many people have the same opinion. Personally, I would have been ok with a slightly smaller, simpler Rodimus trailer, keeping it at the Leader Price Point, ala ER Prime. It appears they aimed for something almost too grand in scale. While they got an amazing Rodimus body, the bigger more complex ($40 worth of plastic) trailer seems to be problematic to several who have purchased it.

The thing is, Rodimus himself is probably using up the "leader pricepoint segment" of the figure's price. If he was released, unchanged, as a leader, you wouldn't have gotten a smaller trailer: you would have gotten no trailer at all.

^This. Rodimus is definitely more advanced than ER OP engineering-wise, and I wouldn't even complain if he was sold at leader price on his own, he fills out the pricepoint on his own.

Rtron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:My Rodimus should hopefully be here tomorrow.

Ordered from Amazon back in May, for delivery 9/3/21
Last week, I get an update saying it's arriving on 8/12
Late on 8/12, I get an update saying it's been delayed until 8/27
Late last night I get a notification it has actually shipped, and will be here 8/18.

I'll reserve my final judgements when I get the toy. But it seems many people have the same opinion. Personally, I would have been ok with a slightly smaller, simpler Rodimus trailer, keeping it at the Leader Price Point, ala ER Prime. It appears they aimed for something almost too grand in scale. While they got an amazing Rodimus body, the bigger more complex ($40 worth of plastic) trailer seems to be problematic to several who have purchased it.

The thing is, Rodimus himself is probably using up the "leader pricepoint segment" of the figure's price. If he was released, unchanged, as a leader, you wouldn't have gotten a smaller trailer: you would have gotten no trailer at all.

Very much this ^ had he been at leader, and needed the trailer he would suffered more.

That's also forgetting two important bits of information.

1) it's a movie Anniversary year and hasbro are going toske sure that Rodimus is somewhere.

2) there is limited slots for new leader class molds (in Kingdoms case this was Earth UM, Galvatron and BW Megs) given that they wanted to do Rodimus, there was no slots for him.

Well, I try not to be that guy, but I kinda saw this coming, even posted on it when he was 1st announced. Honestly I wish I had been wrong, but I just knew that trailer wouldn't be worth the extra money. I do like how the figure itself looks. I'll be on the lookout for him at a discounted price, if I find it, great, if I don't, no big loss. I already have a shelf full of Rodimus figures from all different lines.

As for Rodimus as a leader without the trailer, I would be absolutely down for that, but as it was said, this rodimus goes with Galvatron in homaging the 86 movie, so no way will he be without his trailer.

To those who have him in hand, can the Rodimus figure without the trailer be considered a smaller masterpiece?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, I try not to be that guy, but I kinda saw this coming, even posted on it when he was 1st announced. Honestly I wish I had been wrong, but I just knew that trailer wouldn't be worth the extra money.

The thing is, they were that damn close to making it "worth" it. Granted, I don't really care much about the trailer in the first place, but buying the figure on its own isn't an option. So if Hasbro is going to force me to buy it to get a Rodimus, then I'm going to nail them on its shortcomings. So when I say "worth" it I'm just going by materials and engineering and not whether I think the value is there. The trailer, if it closed properly is easily "worth" double what the ER Prime trailer is by comparison.

Now I think there may be some good news on the trailer. After messing around with it a little more, I did get it to close and stay closed. I'm wondering if it will be similar to the door on Trypticon where many were warped, but pretty easy to straighten out by simply closing it properly and letting it sit that way for a while (like weeks maybe).

Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, I try not to be that guy, but I kinda saw this coming, even posted on it when he was 1st announced. Honestly I wish I had been wrong, but I just knew that trailer wouldn't be worth the extra money. I do like how the figure itself looks. I'll be on the lookout for him at a discounted price, if I find it, great, if I don't, no big loss. I already have a shelf full of Rodimus figures from all different lines.

As for Rodimus as a leader without the trailer, I would be absolutely down for that, but as it was said, this rodimus goes with Galvatron in homaging the 86 movie, so no way will he be without his trailer.

I stand by my belief that a Leader Rodimus with a trailer similar in style to Earthrise Optimus Prime's would've been perfectly fine, and Ultra Magnus would've worked better as a Commander with a big-ass trailer that can fit a load of Deluxe cars inside. It wouldn't even have to have been the same mould as the Siege Magnus.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, I try not to be that guy, but I kinda saw this coming, even posted on it when he was 1st announced. Honestly I wish I had been wrong, but I just knew that trailer wouldn't be worth the extra money.

The thing is, they were that damn close to making it "worth" it. Granted, I don't really care much about the trailer in the first place, but buying the figure on its own isn't an option. So if Hasbro is going to force me to buy it to get a Rodimus, then I'm going to nail them on its shortcomings. So when I say "worth" it I'm just going by materials and engineering and not whether I think the value is there. The trailer, if it closed properly is easily "worth" double what the ER Prime trailer is by comparison.

I dunno, sounds kind of like having it both ways. Which, you're entitled to do, but hear me out.

You don't care about the trailer, so you want to nail them on it if they're 'forcing' you to pay for it. To me, it wouldn't be Rodimus without the trailer, even if I'm not really gonna use it (as I didn't really use it all that much on the G1 figure except to 'pose' him in it occasionally). However, the trailer makes the vehicle mode, so if I ever want to transform it I would definitely have issues with no trailer at all. My Rodimus should be in hand by tomorrow or Thursday and I'll be sure to see if it warps or doesn't close and report the same if that's the case, but for me it wouldn't BE Rodimus Prime.

The price point includes all the plastic, which I buy into by buying it, so I'm not gonna kvetch about any part of it not worth kvetching about. That's just me, though.

Now I think there may be some good news on the trailer. After messing around with it a little more, I did get it to close and stay closed. I'm wondering if it will be similar to the door on Trypticon where many were warped, but pretty easy to straighten out by simply closing it properly and letting it sit that way for a while (like weeks maybe).

Good to know there's a potential fix.

Exactly. If in your view the trailer has shortcomings, then to you it's not worth the price being asked, because a faulty trailer is not what is being marketed for the asking price.

Anyway, we all have different reasons for collecting, and some of us prioritize different aspects of a figure and collection over others. If I ever find thus commander figure for cheap (under $50) I'll probably buy it, because from what I've seen, the Rodimus figure by itself would be worth it. And since I display my collection in robot mode, I would leave the trailer in re box, but I wouldn't think of it as a waste of money, because I considered the trailer a free accessory if I found the figure on sale.

Munkky wrote:As for Rodimus as a leader without the trailer, I would be absolutely down for that, but as it was said, this rodimus goes with Galvatron in homaging the 86 movie, so no way will he be without his trailer.

I stand by my belief that a Leader Rodimus with a trailer similar in style to Earthrise Optimus Prime's would've been perfectly fine, and Ultra Magnus would've worked better as a Commander with a big-ass trailer that can fit a load of Deluxe cars inside. It wouldn't even have to have been the same mould as the Siege Magnus.[/quote]

I 100% agree that Magnus should've been Commander Class... That would've helped fix at least some of the issues.
I'm not sure how it would've worked to have Rodimus's trailer at a smaller size, but I'm not sure people really would've complained if it were; it seems like a lot of un-used space... And sure, it looks decent in vehicle mode, but there are plenty of scaling items that never are truly accurate, so I think a smaller trailer still could've worked. Not to mention this saves people $30!!

Here's another thought I've had recently...
IF Hastak's largest consumer group is made up of kids and casual buyers (parents), then why don't they make a shift and have a figure like Rodimus two separate sales?
Sell Rodimus for $52, which while still pricy for some, is obviously better than $85.
Sell the current, full-sized trailer separately for $30... Collectors are more likely to be willing to drop more money. I think that's a fair statement.
I personally think it's also fair to say that fewer trailers than Rodimuses would sell, so they could even limit that production a bit.
This option quite possibly would've sold more figures and made Hastak more money.
It appeals more to parents, casual buyers, and kids (who would typically have less spending $$$).
Any kid who REALLY wanted the trailer, well, there's still a chance they could get it if their parent gives them "the greenlight".
And there are collectors (like myself) who would've 100% bought Rodimus as a leader class figure without the trailer. Throw-in the two blast effects for the exhaust pipes, the matrix, and the rifle and the corresponding clast effect, and call it good!

It also surprises me that Hastak doesn't do this with figures in other classes--
producing weapons packs (with 1-2 blast effects) aimed at collectors, but available for all from regular retail.
I'd say there's actually a chance that there would be both collectors and casual buyers who would buy multiple weapons packs for different figures... If a kid wants Rodimus's rifle for their Origins Bumblebee, that's cool!!
Hell, there'd probably be kids out there who would want multiple weapons packs for just a couple figures!
And with the 5mm ports all over so many of them, why not?!?
Those could literally be small boxes attached to cardbacks (to avoid using clear plastic, and help prevent theft) the same size as what's used for Core class.

While I know some would say this is stupid, really, the option of buying extra weapons for figures isn't all that much different than buying extra ramp pieces for the modulators and/or baseformers.

Because it means retailers having to make room for things like this (hence why both the Centurion weapons pack and the blast effect pack were online Exclusives). I can't see retailers wanting to make space for a trailer people may buy.

Oh and if Rodimus was sold on his own for leader class prices...I have a suspicion he wouldn't be the same as he is currently and have more simplified parts.

And if they had offered the trailer separately, there's always that bunch who'd complain about Hasbro not including the trailer with the cab.

Selling a loose trailer in a mainline, even as an online exclusive, makes NO sense anyway.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Selling a loose trailer in a mainline, even as an online exclusive, makes NO sense anyway.

Especially when they can fit in the leader class budget anyways (coughs POTP rodimus). It's easy to forget that we used to have a lot more for a lot less money and most toys are a hella lot cheaper to make than RRP

blackeyedprime wrote:It's easy to forget that we used to have a lot more for a lot less money and most toys are a hella lot cheaper to make than RRP

A lot more? How many parts did you get with Leader Rodimus compared to this new Commander?

Sabrblade wrote:And if they had offered the trailer separately, there's always that bunch who'd complain about Hasbro not including the trailer with the cab.

Of course... But the fact of that scenario is it would still be available, and any reasonable person would understand not everyone wanted the trailer.
It's not like I'm saying they should've just sold the trailer for other modulators and baseformers and made it compatible with Hot Rod.

Whether anyone what's to admit it or not, those individual pieces of the set still would've sold...
If someone wants to claim, "I either get them both together or I'm OUT", fine... Then clearly they didn't really want them.
By selling them separately, there are plenty of people who would've just bought the figure-- meaning Hastak makes $50-ish (I get it, not all of that's profit), instead of ZERO.
Not to mention, Hastak getting some to purchase Rodimus probably would've turned into some of those same people later going for the trailer.
And what I proposed didn't have the two pieces priced any higher than what it does cost.

I understand, this didn't happen. Something like this may never happen.
But it's not exactly a crazy idea.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And if they had offered the trailer separately, there's always that bunch who'd complain about Hasbro not including the trailer with the cab.

Of course... But the fact of that scenario is it would still be available, and any reasonable person would understand not everyone wanted the trailer.
It's not like I'm saying they should've just sold the trailer for other modulators and baseformers and made it compatible with Hot Rod.

Whether anyone what's to admit it or not, those individual pieces of the set still would've sold...
If someone wants to claim, "I either get them both together or I'm OUT", fine... Then clearly they didn't really want them.
By selling them separately, there are plenty of people who would've just bought the figure-- meaning Hastak makes $50-ish (I get it, not all of that's profit), instead of ZERO.
Not to mention, Hastak getting some to purchase Rodimus probably would've turned into some of those same people later going for the trailer.
And what I proposed didn't have the two pieces priced any higher than what it does cost.

I understand, this didn't happen. Something like this may never happen.
But it's not exactly a crazy idea.

Sounds to me like why buy the cow when i can get the milk for 50 bucks without a carton.
Or why buy this Ultra Magnus trailer when I can just buy the cab? Which didn't work out back in Classics.

sol magnus wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And if they had offered the trailer separately, there's always that bunch who'd complain about Hasbro not including the trailer with the cab.

Of course... But the fact of that scenario is it would still be available, and any reasonable person would understand not everyone wanted the trailer.
It's not like I'm saying they should've just sold the trailer for other modulators and baseformers and made it compatible with Hot Rod.

Whether anyone what's to admit it or not, those individual pieces of the set still would've sold...
If someone wants to claim, "I either get them both together or I'm OUT", fine... Then clearly they didn't really want them.
By selling them separately, there are plenty of people who would've just bought the figure-- meaning Hastak makes $50-ish (I get it, not all of that's profit), instead of ZERO.
Not to mention, Hastak getting some to purchase Rodimus probably would've turned into some of those same people later going for the trailer.
And what I proposed didn't have the two pieces priced any higher than what it does cost.

I understand, this didn't happen. Something like this may never happen.
But it's not exactly a crazy idea.

Sounds to me like why buy the cow when i can get the milk for 50 bucks without a carton.
Or why buy this Ultra Magnus trailer when I can just buy the cab? Which didn't work out back in Classics.

Using your metaphor, the milk definitely needs a carton, but I don't need an overly complicated carton that pushes the price up, especially when that carton has trouble closing. It tends to spoil the milk.

The trailer to me just needs to complete the alt mode. That's all I need it to do. Something it couldn't do out of the box, but fingers crossed, it looks like the packaging might have been the main culprit and it appears to be recovering somewhat. It still hasn't popped open on its own after I got it closed earlier today. I'm leaving it closed overnight to see whether it seems better or not in the morning.