Transformers Generations Selects Kraken / Seawing and Lobclaw / Nautilator up for order on Hasbro Pulse

If I had blood, $35 per Deluxe would still be too rich for it. That's way too pricey for some remolded Terrorcons, even if the remolding is well done. Pass on the Seacons, alas, unless they wind up on discount someplace (though in this case, discounted would probably make them regular retail price).

And... they are gone!

DeathReviews wrote:If I had blood, $35 per Deluxe would still be too rich for it. That's way too pricey for some remolded Terrorcons, even if the remolding is well done. Pass on the Seacons, alas, unless they wind up on discount someplace (though in this case, discounted would probably make them regular retail price).

Unfortunately, in this case exclusivity is the main factor in determining the price. If these were at regular retail, they'd be at regular retail price, even if they were remolded Terrorcons.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:If I had blood, $35 per Deluxe would still be too rich for it. That's way too pricey for some remolded Terrorcons, even if the remolding is well done. Pass on the Seacons, alas, unless they wind up on discount someplace (though in this case, discounted would probably make them regular retail price).

Unfortunately, in this case exclusivity is the main factor in determining the price. If these were at regular retail, they'd be at regular retail price, even if they were remolded Terrorcons.

I think there's more to it than just that. I'm looking at Skalor, who is the only one still in stock, and not only does he have the combiner hand, but there are a sword and a couple of guns. Those gotta cost something since the standard PotP combiners only had a single accessory with the hand, not multiple.

aronjlove wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:If I had blood, $35 per Deluxe would still be too rich for it. That's way too pricey for some remolded Terrorcons, even if the remolding is well done. Pass on the Seacons, alas, unless they wind up on discount someplace (though in this case, discounted would probably make them regular retail price).

Unfortunately, in this case exclusivity is the main factor in determining the price. If these were at regular retail, they'd be at regular retail price, even if they were remolded Terrorcons.

I think there's more to it than just that. I'm looking at Skalor, who is the only one still in stock, and not only does he have the combiner hand, but there are a sword and a couple of guns. Those gotta cost something since the standard PotP combiners only had a single accessory with the hand, not multiple.

Yeah, people have to stop looking at these as 'budget' retools. They're not, don't want them at that price, don't buy them, but the parts count on the accessories alone would make the hasbro execs blush, not to mention most of them are new, save for the bot mode legs, turtler is 90% new tooling;
I'm sure if this was released under the UW line, people would be lining up to kiss 's ass (a'la computicon), but cuz it's under a line started by hasbro, it's suddenly offensive somehow; if anything, habsro's being a bro and distributing them outside of TTmalls' extremely small market reach

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, people have to stop looking at these as 'budget' retools. They're not, don't want them at that price, don't buy them, but the parts count on the accessories alone would make the hasbro execs blush, not to mention most of them are new, save for the bot mode legs, turtler is 90% new tooling;
I'm sure if this was released under the UW line, people would be lining up to kiss 's ass (a'la computicon), but cuz it's under a line started by hasbro, it's suddenly offensive somehow; if anything, habsro's being a bro and distributing them outside of TTmalls' extremely small market reach

I literally don't understand what you're trying to say at all.

I decided back when the preorders first went up that I didn't want them at this price, especially since I have the original G1 figures in relatively good collection, and since my Generations completionism ends at 1987. But! whenever these posts go up I try to buy them, then get relieved when they're out of stock.

I hope that everyone who wants them at this price can get them, and that everyone that doesn't can be happy without them.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:If I had blood, $35 per Deluxe would still be too rich for it. That's way too pricey for some remolded Terrorcons, even if the remolding is well done. Pass on the Seacons, alas, unless they wind up on discount someplace (though in this case, discounted would probably make them regular retail price).

Unfortunately, in this case exclusivity is the main factor in determining the price. If these were at regular retail, they'd be at regular retail price, even if they were remolded Terrorcons.

I think there's more to it than just that. I'm looking at Skalor, who is the only one still in stock, and not only does he have the combiner hand, but there are a sword and a couple of guns. Those gotta cost something since the standard PotP combiners only had a single accessory with the hand, not multiple.

Yeah, people have to stop looking at these as 'budget' retools. They're not, don't want them at that price, don't buy them, but the parts count on the accessories alone would make the hasbro execs blush, not to mention most of them are new, save for the bot mode legs, turtler is 90% new tooling;
I'm sure if this was released under the UW line, people would be lining up to kiss 's ass (a'la computicon), but cuz it's under a line started by hasbro, it's suddenly offensive somehow; if anything, habsro's being a bro and distributing them outside of TTmalls' extremely small market reach

The Deluxes come with upgraded combiner hands with individual fingers; multiple additional accessories; except for his hands, every bit of pink on Skalor is paint; Snap Trap is entirely new tooling except for his arms and upper thighs; and they're all heavily remolded almost to the point of only sharing engineering and a few parts... hell, Tentakil is an entirely new mold. These are basically pre-brand unification Takara figures that Hasbro is literally directly importing. To me, they're worth the money, given the extra accessories, paint, and retooling done. Granted, I'd like them more at $29.99 than $34.99... and Snap Trap at $49.99. But for what we've got, I'm fine. I've only got Snap Trap and Skalor so far, but their joints are even better (and tighter) than their "base" figures.

Bounti76 wrote:hell, Tentakil is an entirely new mold.

He's not, he reuses the waist and back of PotP Moonracer, and possibly some of the joint pieces. He does have the highest percentage of new parts next to Turtler/Snaptrap.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:hell, Tentakil is an entirely new mold.

He's not, he reuses the waist and back of PotP Moonracer, and possibly some of the joint pieces. He does have the highest percentage of new parts next to Turtler/Snaptrap.

Fair point. Sharing 2 not super obvious pieces of a previous figure while everything else is new tooling... that's a new mold to me. I'd even say the same about Snap Trap, though his arms/turtle back legs are more obvious than Tentakil's reused Moonracer pieces.

Pre-order is up for Super Megatron as well as new photos of his Ultra modes and two new comic parts.
https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810139768/
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... -vol01.pdf
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... -vol02.pdf

Battle Masked robot mode is named "Ultra Megatron Omega".

If that Megatron comes to Selects I am soooo freaking buying it. He looks crazy, like a '90s idea of hi-tech with the red highlights. Almost like he belongs in the Transformers vs Terminator comic.

aronjlove wrote:If that Megatron comes to Selects I am soooo freaking buying it.

What do you mean "if"? It's literally TakaraTomy's eighth Selects figure.

Nice TLK reference with that battle mask

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:If that Megatron comes to Selects I am soooo freaking buying it.

What do you mean "if"? It's literally TakaraTomy's eighth Selects figure.

Ah yeah! Thank you, I must not have been paying attention.

Not only do we have confirmation of his Ultra Megatron but he....oh my. Also he has a reference to the Super Megatron-inspired scrapped season 4 Animated Megatron and a TLk homage.


OH! MY! GOOOOOOOOD!!!

Thanks to a tip from Powered Convoy in our own Energon Pub Forums we're getting some new looks at the upcoming Selects Super Megatron as pre-orders open on Takara Tomy Mall. As the saying goes, he's more than meets the eye! As several keen eyes in the forums had guessed this figure contains all the right parts for the figure to form both Super Megatron in bot and spacecraft modes as well as Ultra Megatron in bot and tank modes. But wait, that's not all! He also has a third face called Ultra Megatron Omega which features a face similar to that of Megatron from the movie Transformers: The Last Knight. What an ambitious figure!

Takara Tomy Mall is pricing him at ¥6,600 (about $60 USD) with release sometime in late September 2020. As with most Takara Tomy Selects releases his orders will only be limited from now until May 7 to Japanese customers. Hasbro Pulse will likely also make him available as they have other Takara Tomy Selects releases in the past, but for now TFSource and the Chosen Prime have opened their orders up for $64.99.











So what do you think of Selects new quasi-quintuple changer? Be sure to let us know in the forums!

I'm hoping the gun part transformation/parts forming isn't too hindered in the jet and tank mode because I'd love to tweak a Super and Ultra version of both, especially since his powered up form use a tank which make less sense as an upgrade. Hopefully there is some way to make a tank with the big railgun/laser gun.

Honestly the only thing which would make him even better if if he had some sort of leg transformation to even further differentiate the forms. Even if it was just some panel flipping or an alternate pair of feet with a red tip. Still, as he is this is some insane and whacked mix of ideas and I love it! Now I want an oversized KO even more do display his Super and Ultra forms. As for the final form, my head keeps calling it Hyper Megatron.

Dear lord do I need supplies or do I need this...

If I got a single TF for the rest of 2020 and it was this guy I'd be more than happy.

Also, TF Source has preorder already.

Since this is a retool of the Titans Return Galvatron, does this still have a headmaster or did they get rid of that gimmick for this figure?

omega666 wrote:Since this is a retool of the Titans Return Galvatron, does this still have a headmaster or did they get rid of that gimmick for this figure?

Considering TR Galvatron already had space to fold a head inside the torso and this guy has a transforming head, I think its safe to say he isn't.

While his third face does somewhat resemble TLK Megatron, I think it's more related to Dark Nova and the fact that he and Ultra Megatron fused together.

Lore Keeper wrote:While his third face does somewhat resemble TLK Megatron, I think it's more related to Dark Nova and the fact that he and Ultra Megatron fused together.

Its also (maybe) a loose reference to the unproduced Season 4 Animated Megatron aka 'Maraudeur Megatron' who was even more Super Megatron inspired and also had a face mask based off Beast Machines Megatron. This design take cues from it but swap the BM reference with bits from TLK.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Vic Zanzibar wrote:Turtler and Gulf just arrived from Pulse. THEY’RE SO PINK! I love them! I thought the gaudy would be too much, but it’s MAGNIFICENT. I’m gonna have to get the entire crew somehow.

Got mine too, the shipping box was dented but thankfully the individual boxes look ok.

Don't worry, the figures come in a plastic clamshell that's packed in a box, packed in a wrap, packed in a box which is then packed into the shipping box

Busted open turtler and man what a figure, it feels bigger than it is. The packaging was interesting then I remembered it had the same number of layers as the Japanese releases. The shipping boxes are just different.

I definitely think the fact it looks like the TLK mask is intentional, as much as it might also be a Dark Nova reference. It's probably a double (triple, including Animated Marauder Megatron? Or possibly even quadruple, given Marauder Megatron's facemask itself was referencing Beast Wars Megatron?) homage.

The tusks aspect is TLK Megatron through and through.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The tusks aspect is TLK Megatron through and through.

Sure is, they even open when he shoots that beam. I'm not seeing Marauder Megatron at all in this figure, always thought that figure was a step further away from Super Megatron, not closer.

I'm having trouble figuring out Ultra Megatron's chest. It doesn't seem to be as simple as popping it open and spinning it around. There's a hinge at the top not found on the Super side and the intentionally shot the figure from below so you can't see what's going on up there. I'm thinking it might be the part his head is connected to and just out of view on the super side and has a twist in it similar to RID 2001 Ultra Magnus so the head returns upright.

What we can now see that the "spin" is about half way up his abs, the bottom half stays Black while above it is gray in super and black in ultra.

Emerje

I think the mask is more likely TFK's Megatron and any resemblance to Dark Nova is a happy coincidence.

It's really neat that they managed to pack so much into this toy. It's way better than the Galvatron original.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's really neat that they managed to pack so much into this toy. It's way better than the Galvatron original.

Yeah, but it will cost many between 2-3 times that Galvatron original,

Yeah, I sincerely doubt there was any intention of making the Omega face resemble Dark Nova since, while he and Megatron did fuse into the Star Giant, their fusion was not mutually consensual. In other words, Megatron did not want to fuse with Dark Nova, the latter forced it upon him by basically swallowing him and wiring him into the Star Giant's head.

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's really neat that they managed to pack so much into this toy. It's way better than the Galvatron original.

Yeah, but it will cost many between 2-3 times that Galvatron original,

2.25 times as much.

I'm not seeing less reason to want this, despite the pricing.

They look cool, but not $35-a-deluxe-figure cool, I know some of us have bought Takara combiners for $150, but the painting and accessories are usually better along with the packaging, but this is something that could have been release at 18 a piece, except the voyager figure.

I still want to see a picture of Super/Ultra Megatron next to Star Convoy, just to get a sense of how out of scale they are with each other. Or, maybe Star Convoy is supposed to be bigger than either Super or Ultra Megatron?

Wolfman Jake wrote:I still want to see a picture of Super/Ultra Megatron next to Star Convoy, just to get a sense of how out of scale they are with each other. Or, maybe Star Convoy is supposed to be bigger than either Super or Ultra Megatron?

Given that it doesn't look like any part was lengthened, maybe ask to see if anyone has both Star Convoy and TR/Legends Galvatron on hand for a size comparison. I think SC will tower over Super Ultra Megs but I suppose that was the best mold to use as a base. Can't think of any recent leader Class molds that would have been better.

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's really neat that they managed to pack so much into this toy. It's way better than the Galvatron original.

Yeah, but it will cost many between 2-3 times that Galvatron original,

True! I guess you can toss that on top of the reasons I won't get this. Although, saying that, I like what they've done here.

Skritz wrote:

omega666 wrote:Since this is a retool of the Titans Return Galvatron, does this still have a headmaster or did they get rid of that gimmick for this figure?

Considering TR Galvatron already had space to fold a head inside the torso and this guy has a transforming head, I think its safe to say he isn't.

Considering that it was NOT clear that he has a transforming head, I think it was safe for me to ask for clarity. But thank you for clearing that up.

Honestly to this day I keep thinking the TR Voyager Optimus would have made a better Star Convoy remake.

Skritz wrote:Honestly to this day I keep thinking the TR Voyager Optimus would have made a better Star Convoy remake.

True but I think they wanted to take advantage of Prime turning into Star Convoy that the PotP leader mold gave them

I like how many references they managed to fit in just one toy.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Skritz wrote:Honestly to this day I keep thinking the TR Voyager Optimus would have made a better Star Convoy remake.

True but I think they wanted to take advantage of Prime turning into Star Convoy that the PotP leader mold gave them

However Star Convoy from the Octane mold would be in scale with that Megatron, have a more accurate alt mode (especially if they tooled some threads) and possibly a space shuttle/spaceship mode from the plane mode, which would have fitted the concept better and even elevated it beyond the G1 space truck.

I love how they added that extra TLK/Marauder Megatron face in there, that is the face i will be displaying this figure with!

Skritz wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Skritz wrote:Honestly to this day I keep thinking the TR Voyager Optimus would have made a better Star Convoy remake.

True but I think they wanted to take advantage of Prime turning into Star Convoy that the PotP leader mold gave them

However Star Convoy from the Octane mold would be in scale with that Megatron, have a more accurate alt mode (especially if they tooled some threads) and possibly a space shuttle/spaceship mode from the plane mode, which would have fitted the concept better and even elevated it beyond the G1 space truck.

The Hasbro retail TR Voyager Optimus is already in Star Convoy colors anyway, so wish granted.

I'll wait for the video reviews but that Megs is more and more tempting despite costing over 100$CAN.

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Skritz wrote:Honestly to this day I keep thinking the TR Voyager Optimus would have made a better Star Convoy remake.

True but I think they wanted to take advantage of Prime turning into Star Convoy that the PotP leader mold gave them

However Star Convoy from the Octane mold would be in scale with that Megatron, have a more accurate alt mode (especially if they tooled some threads) and possibly a space shuttle/spaceship mode from the plane mode, which would have fitted the concept better and even elevated it beyond the G1 space truck.

The Hasbro retail TR Voyager Optimus is already in Star Convoy colors anyway, so wish granted.

Its 'close enough' so yes, it will be what I display Super Megatron with. TR Megatron will henceforth be repurposed in my collection (and maybe slightly customized) into Megaplex.

Oh I'm in love with Super Megatron. I'm a sucker for bots that have an alternate configuration for their robot modes. The inclusion of TLK battle mask is awesome too. Originally I had thought about making him my Lost Light Megatron, and if/when I get him in hand he might still, but I think I'll just have him be my standard Megatron

Skritz wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Skritz wrote:Honestly to this day I keep thinking the TR Voyager Optimus would have made a better Star Convoy remake.

True but I think they wanted to take advantage of Prime turning into Star Convoy that the PotP leader mold gave them

However Star Convoy from the Octane mold would be in scale with that Megatron, have a more accurate alt mode (especially if they tooled some threads) and possibly a space shuttle/spaceship mode from the plane mode, which would have fitted the concept better and even elevated it beyond the G1 space truck.

As true as that is, doesn't change the fact that they wanted to use the leader Class mold, probably for the small Optimus to star Convoy feature and the removable matrix capability. It wouldn't have gone unnoticed to them that they could have used the voyager class mold, they just didn't want to.

Megs is up for preorders in UK I.D or kapow at £50.

One part of me says it's not much more than tak legends galvatronus price, then the other part of me says leader class price for a voyager figure. Either way, sticking with animated megs for the mo.

Segor wrote:They look cool, but not $35-a-deluxe-figure cool, I know some of us have bought Takara combiners for $150, but the painting and accessories are usually better along with the packaging, but this is something that could have been release at 18 a piece, except the voyager figure.

1. Learn to use quotes when replying to something that was multiple posts back in the thread.
2. As several people have pointed out, the painting and accessories of the Seacons ARE better than what you'd get with a retail Deluxe limb, plus the retooling is quite extensive. So no, it really isn't something that could have been released at $18 a piece.