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Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes

Transformers News: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes

Wednesday, August 30th, 2023 8:11PM CDT

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Thanks to Mark Maher on his Instagram, we have a nice little breakdown of the design process that went into the Selects release of Antagony. We get some details regarding building in some Transmetal retooling options into molds such as Inferno and Tarantulas, though that has not come to pass to date. We also get some info on her head design and the choices behind the alternate heads.

Check it out below, and let us know what you think!

Generations Selects Voyager Antagony is gracing you with her presence! 8-) :PREDACON:
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I had first planned the alt head to be Scavenger way back when Shu san and I were working on Inferno. My thought here was trying to get some representation of the Transmetals line, possibly hoping for a full fledge partial in order to do some of the characters. Ultimately it didn’t pan out, but you can see hints to this idea I had in several Kingdom characters, much like the buzzsaw weapon that came with Tarantulas.
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To note, if you utilize the Scavenger head on the Inferno mold you will notice the purple colors match to the shoulder paint. But, if you would like to use the Scavenger head for Antagony, the gunmetal color matches the waist and shoulder paint. I’m trying my best to give people options when I can as I don’t want the alt heads in some of these molds to be tossed into the abyss.
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Lets talk about how lovely this sculpted detail looks as this carpenter ant alt mode rips a fozzilizer to shreds! The metallic raspberry just pops along with the soothing predacon purp! You will also notice on an early engineering pilot test shot, I actually was thinking about homaging her original comic apperance but once I saw how good the purple looked on the movable mandibles, it won me over.
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All worky and no playtime makes Marky mad so I’ll do my best to post more, but please do tell me who you would like to see next!

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Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2167675)
Posted by DeathReviews on August 31st, 2023 @ 8:33am CDT
Fart poweeerrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

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I have this one on pre-order. Black works a lot better for this mold than red, I think....
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2167677)
Posted by Asepticon on August 31st, 2023 @ 10:46am CDT
I ordered a 3D printed head for Antagony so that it doesn't look just like Inferno. Also I bought a second Inferno and painted it differently to go with the Scavenger head.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2167754)
Posted by triKlops on September 1st, 2023 @ 7:07pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Fart poweeerrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!


:lol: :APPLAUSE: :lol:
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2167782)
Posted by mgarciai on September 2nd, 2023 @ 3:33pm CDT
Asepticon wrote:I ordered a 3D printed head for Antagony so that it doesn't look just like Inferno. Also I bought a second Inferno and painted it differently to go with the Scavenger head.



Ooh which one? I wanted to do the same and also get a custom 3D printed head as I’m not quite sold on the recolored Inferno head for Antagony.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2169381)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 21st, 2023 @ 12:03am CDT
Hasbro Pulse just charged me for Antagony.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2169404)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 21st, 2023 @ 6:27am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro Pulse just charged me for Antagony.

They did me as well, along with black series Krrrsantan
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2171480)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2023 @ 10:13pm CDT
While Canadian Toysrus stores have been lagging behind on Studio Series and Legacy offerings, they do ok with more collectible items. Such is the case with Transformers Generations Selects Antagony which was found on Toysrus shelves in Quebec and Ontario. The toy was also released at Canadian Gamestop stores. While it probably won't be found in brick and mortar retail in the US (aside from maybe Gamestop), the toy is readily available from online stores like BBTS. While this toy is a redeco of an existing toy with an extra head, we do have a video review below just in case you wanted to see more of the toy.

If you have found her, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.



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Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2171486)
Posted by Bounti76 on October 9th, 2023 @ 1:50am CDT
I just got her this past weekend. I actually like her better than Inferno. The Scavenger head is cool, but I like her standard head- it looks more like her original toy.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2171937)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 12th, 2023 @ 3:19pm CDT
I got her about 2 weeks ago. She is really nice. I put the Scavenger head to differentiate her from Inferno, especially since she really doesn't have the right head.

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She has gone nicely into the new Unicron shelf

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Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174963)
Posted by william-james88 on January 6th, 2024 @ 1:38pm CST
Hasbro has lots of toys being simultaneously designed and release plans are never set in stone unless revealed officially. This is why even though we got leaked renders for a Earth mode Hound figure a while back, it's release could not be certain until Hasbro officially revealed it (or it was found in stores). While we still don't have an official reveal, we do have a new listing featuring Hound. It comes to us from JTPrime17 and you can see it below with its product code.

The listing is for an autobot Multipack made to coincide with the 40th anniversary of G1 featuring Hound, Jazz, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker and Trailbreaker.

TRA GEN SELECTS AUTOBOT MULTIPACK; DlX Hound, Jazz, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, Trailbreaker
Product code: G0206

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Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174964)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 6th, 2024 @ 1:48pm CST
Even now, three years after Kingdom, Hasbro just couldn't resist giving us yet another release of that Earthrise Wheeljack mold, as if we haven't already had plenty of releases that shelfwarmed to here and back. >:oP
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174965)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 6th, 2024 @ 1:52pm CST
Worth noting that's the same product code as the Autobot multipack listing we got back in August, so that's seemingly the same set as this and there's still a 3-pack who's contents are a mystery.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174966)
Posted by Talon523 on January 6th, 2024 @ 1:54pm CST
Well I definitely won't be getting this Hound then. I have all the other ones. I hate these multi-packs. I'll stick with the siege mold.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174967)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2024 @ 1:55pm CST
Unless the Hound included in that pack is a genuine new mold, that set will be an easy pass for me.

Still, for all of those who have missed out on at least 2 or 3 of the other included toys, this set will certainly be worth it.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174969)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on January 6th, 2024 @ 2:01pm CST
The only one I'd really want from the set is sunstreaker
I'm fine with siege Hound
Don't really care about trailbreaker I have Hoist and like him better
And I don't really like that wheeljack. I was tempted with bee movie wheeljack but im holding out hope a Prime version of the character is released in a few years
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174970)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 6th, 2024 @ 2:53pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Unless the Hound included in that pack is a genuine new mold, that set will be an easy pass for me.

Still, for all of those who have missed out on at least 2 or 3 of the other included toys, this set will certainly be worth it.

JTPrime says Hound should be the same Earth mode figure from the cancelled Target two-pack as in the render posted. Pretty sure that's expected to be retooling of Siege rather than completely new.

I'm thrilled to be getting a proper Hound even if I'm not thrilled about the release, since I have the others. I know a lot of people missed out on Sunstreaker in particular, and he had opportunities for improvement, so maybe that will be justified. There could be other minor variations, like opaque windows (for a cartoon look, like with SS86 and BB re-releases) or toy decals (like the last five-pack giftset of the Stunticons.) I've doubled up on a lot of G1 figures recently, so maybe I'll find someone who wants an incomplete set of G1 updates.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174971)
Posted by Spider5800 on January 6th, 2024 @ 3:13pm CST
Dammit, I was actually looking forward to this one. I don't need all five of those figures.

Sigh, I really don't want to pay $120+ just to get a CHUG version of G1 Hound.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174975)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 6th, 2024 @ 3:26pm CST
If the price is right and there's some effort put into it, this might be the best-selling Generations Selects release to date. If Hasbro follows the trend of removing the clear plastic then Jazz will be a huge improvement. The other three need to include proper weapons and their extra accessories from the bonus pack properly painted to be worthwhile.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174976)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 6th, 2024 @ 3:58pm CST
Spider5800 wrote:Dammit, I was actually looking forward to this one. I don't need all five of those figures.

Sigh, I really don't want to pay $120+ just to get a CHUG version of G1 Hound.
You could sell off the others. Or maybe find someone here to split the set and share the cost.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174977)
Posted by Burn on January 6th, 2024 @ 4:04pm CST
I'm happy to take Trailbreaker off someone's hands ... as long as you don't try to stooge me, the conversion rate will be painful enough. :lol:
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174981)
Posted by Dino-Snarl on January 6th, 2024 @ 5:45pm CST
At least these will sell unlike all the Disney merchandise crowding Disney discount warehouses nationwide.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174983)
Posted by Quantum Surge on January 6th, 2024 @ 6:59pm CST
Good. Now Hatchet existing with Hound when?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174986)
Posted by william-james88 on January 6th, 2024 @ 7:55pm CST
Quantum Surge wrote:Good. Now Hatchet existing with Hound when?


Maybe never
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174987)
Posted by SpaceEagle on January 6th, 2024 @ 8:27pm CST
Ouch, yeah, seeing as I already have gotten the rest of these figures separately, I guess I'm gonna have to hope ol' Hound gets rereleased somewhere else down the line, or probably when he gets another new mold. I already really enjoy this retool thanks to Detritus, but I definitely don't need everything else this multipack is offering just to get the guy who was supposed to have it first! :lol:
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2174997)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on January 6th, 2024 @ 11:26pm CST
Ouch, this is a five pack now?!
IDK, I just don't need another Jazz or Wheeljack, and in truth I could probably do without Trailbreaker since I've got Hoist. I just though since he appeared in a few episodes he'd be neat to have but I'm running out of room quite fast. And I'm honestly not totally digging that Hound, feels a bit too light in color for starters and it's not quite as "Hound" to me.

I'll probably just pass.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175012)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 7th, 2024 @ 7:56am CST
Till-all-R1 wrote:Ouch, this is a five pack now?!
IDK, I just don't need another Jazz or Wheeljack, and in truth I could probably do without Trailbreaker since I've got Hoist. I just though since he appeared in a few episodes he'd be neat to have but I'm running out of room quite fast. And I'm honestly not totally digging that Hound, feels a bit too light in color for starters and it's not quite as "Hound" to me.

I'll probably just pass.


I have them all (except for Hound obviously) and I DESPISE Legacy Detritus. Detritus is one of the worst repaint/remold I've ever seen. They actually REMOVED parts from Siege Hound and made him more hollow and cheap. The bot looks like some AliExpress KO and that jeep is just sad looking. I never bought that aptly named Detritus.

That pass is not just easy for me, it's mandatory.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175017)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 7th, 2024 @ 10:52am CST
I'm looking forward to this set just for Sunstreaker alone.
Since I'm not a huge fan of a lot of the Autobot characters, my critiques are usually more tame because I just don't care as much.
While this new Hound probably could and should be better, what's seen in the image is definitely good enough for me.
Like Sunstreaker, I never saw Trailbreaker, and I actually like his design more than Hoist's, on top of being a figure that will add a little visual variety to the shelf.
As a couple others have mentioned, if Wheeljack and Jazz are made with all solid plastic, that's a win. If this pans-out, I have a plan for a diorama where the current versions of these two may be disassembled, customized, and used as destroyed, random bots; unfortunate victims of Tarn and Jhiaxus teaming-up and going on a rampage.

I'm a little surprised that Wheeljack and Jazz have been included over others that were past exclusives like Sideswipe, Bluestreak, or even Red Alert. But this set does tell us that Hastak is aware of and/or heard enough chatter about those difficult-to-find ER waves. And I can appreciate that.
Even if these figures end up having clear plastic, I'm still in for this set.
I'm so close to retiring from the collecting game that I don't expect to see new versions of any of these characters before I bow-out. I think it's fair to say that almost all of the recent and semi-recent figures of G1 characters are very close to if not definitive versions.
Whatever small improvements could possibly be made to most of these probably won't be worth the price increase 3-5 years from now anyway.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175019)
Posted by o.supreme on January 7th, 2024 @ 12:21pm CST
I have no strong opinions either way because there are not in my range of collection. However I am glad the Earth mode Hound is getting some sort of release. Seems like the cancellation of the Buzzworthy line was probably put in place a while ago. ER Sunstresker, and Trailbreaker were hard to find,.so that's good for fans who missed out, but Wheeljack and SS86 Jazz were in a abundance. The bad thing is that this could have been a SS86 set and get a lot of characters that had brief appearances in the film, but Trailbreaker makes that not possible. So this is just a random set of 84 bits. 1 is new, 2 were previously hard to find, and 2 nobody really needs. I know they kind of do this on purpose with multipacks. Putting a couple gems in with common stuff, but it still doesn't make it any less frustrating for collectors.

This will probably be on Pulse for around $125 USD. Most fans will probably wait for a sale, or be willing to pay $30 or even $40 from the sellers that split them up on eBay as opposed to paying the full 125
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175021)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 7th, 2024 @ 1:50pm CST
Really wasnt fussed about hound, classics is still the go to but if sunstreakers yellows are done right then I might pick this set up. I need jazz anyaways, trailbreaker is fine for something to repaint into another diaclone color and wheeljack is...really, really unwanted.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175022)
Posted by Blackstreak on January 7th, 2024 @ 2:29pm CST
I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175035)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on January 7th, 2024 @ 8:49pm CST
Sowndwave76 wrote:Like Sunstreaker, I never saw Trailbreaker, and I actually like his design more than Hoist's, on top of being a figure that will add a little visual variety to the shelf.

That's another reason why I wanted Trailbreaker, to add a bit of variety to the shelf in a sea of red and white bots. So far I only have Brawn, Cosmos, Hoist and Tracks to beak up all that sameness. I just didn't want him badly enough to pay full price.

I do wonder why they chose a 5-pk bundle though, they have to know that only 1-2 are going to appeal to the masses. That said, I assume they will be slight different deco like the blue windowed CliffJumper etc.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm so close to retiring from the collecting game that I don't expect to see new versions of any of these characters before I bow-out. I think it's fair to say that almost all of the recent and semi-recent figures of G1 characters are very close to if not definitive versions.
Whatever small improvements could possibly be made to most of these probably won't be worth the price increase 3-5 years from now anyway.

I'm pretty close to this point as well, and is one reason why I wanted a few Bots done in a timely manner as in real soon.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175041)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 7th, 2024 @ 9:59pm CST
Till-all-R1 wrote:That's another reason why I wanted Trailbreaker, to add a bit of variety to the shelf in a sea of red and white bots. So far I only have Brawn, Cosmos, Hoist and Tracks to beak up all that sameness. I just didn't want him badly enough to pay full price.

Agreed... Especially in my case, I'm going to have the mini bots on their own shelf. So right now it's really only Grapple and Hoist that give a visual break to all of the white and red.
Sunstreaker, Trailbreaker and Hound will all help a bit.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I do wonder why they chose a 5-pk bundle though, they have to know that only 1-2 are going to appeal to the masses. That said, I assume they will be slight different deco like the blue windowed CliffJumper etc.

I've wondered this as well; For a while now I've thought that even leader class figures can be a tough sell. Even for some collectors. But for the average kid or parent, dropping $55+ for one toy... That's steep.
And this set will have to be at least $100, and possibly a lot more depending on what's included (even before tax). Other than solid plastic and painted windows, I don't think these need much altered in terms of the deco.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm pretty close to this point as well, and is one reason why I wanted a few Bots done in a timely manner as in real soon.

I said a while back that if Hastak wants much more of my money, they are going to need to keep some G1 characters in the mix, and push those out sooner than later.
For a while now all I've really had on my want list was the 5 main Dinobots and the 3 main Insecticons. So everything else has been icing.
Sure, there are a few more I'd like to have, but I'm not real worried either way. My plan after this year is to keep an eye and ear out, but I'll essentially be done after this year.
I will be very interested to see what Hastak does for the 40th Anniversary of the '86 movie in 2026. But I'm committing to that being the last year that I'll buy any TF.
I've already been surprised at how much I am going to get this year, but I'm assuming and hoping that 2025 will basically be a year-long hiatus.
This is the most materialistic thing in my life, and I'm pretty ready for it to be over.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175043)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 7th, 2024 @ 10:14pm CST
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Till-all-R1 wrote:I do wonder why they chose a 5-pk bundle though, they have to know that only 1-2 are going to appeal to the masses. That said, I assume they will be slight different deco like the blue windowed CliffJumper etc.

I've wondered this as well; For a while now I've thought that even leader class figures can be a tough sell. Even for some collectors. But for the average kid or parent, dropping $55+ for one toy... That's steep.
And this set will have to be at least $100, and possibly a lot more depending on what's included (even before tax). Other than solid plastic and painted windows, I don't think these need much altered in terms of the deco.

But that's just it: this pack isn't intended for "the masses." It's likely to be an online and fan-channel exclusive. It's not targeting the "average kid or parent" because it won't be available widely at major retailers. Points of comparison are the Studio Series four- and five-packs, and the Menasor gift set. I know the last one did go on sale, but all of those moved pretty quickly.

The Generations line is designed to appeal to traditional and fandom consumers, but that doesn't mean every release is equally dependent on both of those markets.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175044)
Posted by Solrac333 on January 7th, 2024 @ 10:16pm CST
If it's part of a set, then it's an easy pass. I'm fine with the old Henkei mold.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175055)
Posted by o.supreme on January 8th, 2024 @ 8:54am CST
Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.


Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175083)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 8th, 2024 @ 6:22pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Worth noting that's the same product code as the Autobot multipack listing we got back in August, so that's seemingly the same set as this and there's still a 3-pack who's contents are a mystery.

I am now hoping that 3-pack is a SS Dreads pack
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Posted by Emerje on January 8th, 2024 @ 8:48pm CST
o.supreme wrote:This will probably be on Pulse for around $125 USD. Most fans will probably wait for a sale, or be willing to pay $30 or even $40 from the sellers that split them up on eBay as opposed to paying the full 125

I'm hoping they do Target pricing which was basically buy 3 get one free. That would put the price closer to $100.
o.supreme wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.


Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175104)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 8th, 2024 @ 8:52pm CST
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje


Not even SS86? :-?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175120)
Posted by Emerje on January 9th, 2024 @ 2:54am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje


Not even SS86? :-?

The closest they've come is SS86 Perceptor into Legacy Evolution Magnificus.

Emerje
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175121)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 9th, 2024 @ 5:00am CST
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje


Not even SS86? :-?

The closest they've come is SS86 Perceptor into Legacy Evolution Magnificus.

Emerje


I can't believe I forgot that one.
So that mean any SS86 can be "selected." But maybe not those with licenced vehicle modes.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175128)
Posted by Emerje on January 9th, 2024 @ 8:37am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje


Not even SS86? :-?

The closest they've come is SS86 Perceptor into Legacy Evolution Magnificus.

Emerje


I can't believe I forgot that one.
So that mean any SS86 can be "selected." But maybe not those with licenced vehicle modes.

Probably. This 5 pack includes SS86 Jazz so they aren't against using SS86 molds at least, they just wont package them as such.

Emerje
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175213)
Posted by Coptur on January 12th, 2024 @ 2:50am CST
o.supreme wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.


Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.


well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175219)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2024 @ 11:44am CST
Coptur wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.


Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.


well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.
But again...
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175221)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 12th, 2024 @ 1:56pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Coptur wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.


Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.


well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.
But again...
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

We've had multiple Studio Series molds in the specialty sub lines, including Magnificus, Jackpot, and BB Arcee. Based on the product listing this won't have SS86 on the box, but it could be Legacy or generic Generations. Meanwhile, the inside of the box can contain whatever Hasbro wants it to, and it could easily be in the spirit of SS86 even if it doesn't have the branding. I think we're all getting a little precious about marketing labels.
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Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2024 @ 2:03pm CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Coptur wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.


Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.


well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.
But again...
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

We've had multiple Studio Series molds in the specialty sub lines, including Magnificus, Jackpot, and BB Arcee. Based on the product listing this won't have SS86 on the box, but it could be Legacy or generic Generations. Meanwhile, the inside of the box can contain whatever Hasbro wants it to, and it could easily be in the spirit of SS86 even if it doesn't have the branding. I think we're all getting a little precious about marketing labels.
If it's not going to be labeled Studio Series 86, chances are high its contents aren't going to be in the vein of Studio Series 86.

Why are you so insistent on even wanting a dead Trailbreaker, anyway?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175223)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 12th, 2024 @ 2:19pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Coptur wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.


Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.


well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.
But again...
Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

We've had multiple Studio Series molds in the specialty sub lines, including Magnificus, Jackpot, and BB Arcee. Based on the product listing this won't have SS86 on the box, but it could be Legacy or generic Generations. Meanwhile, the inside of the box can contain whatever Hasbro wants it to, and it could easily be in the spirit of SS86 even if it doesn't have the branding. I think we're all getting a little precious about marketing labels.
If it's not going to be labeled Studio Series 86, chances are high its contents aren't going to be in the vein of Studio Series 86.

Why are you so insistent on even wanting a dead Trailbreaker, anyway?

I personally don't want one and I don't think we'll get one. I just don't think whether it's SS86 or Legacy or a plain cardboard box matters. Assuming the rumors hold up, and they're reliable, the most likely outcomes are either:
1) Opaque windows a la the SS86 Bumblebee and Kup releases (and also dead Prowl and Ironhide), in which case this set will be a nice companion to those, or
2) Some other kind of redeco like toy designs, like the Menasor gift pack

I don't think either are more or less likely based on which molds or product codes are used. Or maybe it'll be something else entirely. We're all grasping at straws, and speculation can be fun, but I don't think there's any evidence to rule anything in or out.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175224)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 12th, 2024 @ 2:47pm CST
^ Sorry 'bout that "insistent" part. I thought I was talking to the same user as before.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175225)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 12th, 2024 @ 2:51pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:^ Sorry 'bout that "insistent" part. I thought I was talking to the same user as before.

No worries, everyone's excited about the five pack here. I'll find some chill once it finally comes out.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175229)
Posted by sol magnus on January 12th, 2024 @ 4:12pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Even now, three years after Kingdom, Hasbro just couldn't resist giving us yet another release of that Earthrise Wheeljack mold, as if we haven't already had plenty of releases that shelfwarmed to here and back. >:oP

Somebody at Hasbro freakin LOVES Wheeljack. Find someone who loves you like whoever it is at Hasbro that loves Wheeljack.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Antagony Designer Notes (2175231)
Posted by o.supreme on January 12th, 2024 @ 5:27pm CST
^ :lol: . That is a nice sentiment. However I don't think personal like/dislike of a character would override good business decisions (I know Hasbro isn't often known for those lately but...) I know its often *debunked* that later releases are not just extra units that were never sold, but in this case you really have to wonder. Same goes for SS86 Jazz. There's really no other reason why you would bring those 2 back. Sure maybe much of what was sold to retail finally got clearenced out, or send to discount chains. But what if Hasbro had several thousand that were manufactured, but just never ordered by a retailer? This would certainly be a good way to get them out of whatever where house they were in. All Companies hate old product sitting around.

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