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Never saw the resemblance of Battlestar Galactica's Vipers until now

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Bumblethumper wrote:

NotEnoughKibble wrote:For anyone's wallet that was starting to sweat, this should pump some life back into it: According to an article on the allspark website, the big ass combining Devy is Voltron-like...without individual transforming bots. There will be separate individual transforming toys for the constucticons as well, but they won't combine.

Translation: Friggin' lame! Pass. Move on, nothing to see here. Sorry gestalt fans, better luck next time.

Uber-Fail


I hate to use the F word, but I'm really sick of Hasbro's defeatist attitude when it comes to gestalts. "We can't do it".

That just kills virtually all interest I had in Devastator. What's wrong with them. They're even lame enough to blame it on the economy. Sorry Hasbro, excuses are for losers.

This should've been the one kick-ass toy to rule them all. If they'd actually gone for it and pulled it off, it'd be just the thing to make everyone forget about the whole stupid financiapocolypse.

I dunno, maybe I'm overreacting, but considering it's their most expensive combiner ever you don't expect them to take the cop-out route.

Tformers even has pictures of the two devastators, the lame stand-up version and the 2-feet "Voltron" version, as well as some of the constructicons:
http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&a ... 83&start=0

The difference between the non-transforming Rampage (brrr.... that's not a constructicon name...) and the transforming one is clear.

Both versions are the lame version. There's the expensive lame version that could've been cool and the even lamer version that was always intended to be lame.

For all the compromises in $100 devestator, neither bot nor alt modes are good.

At any rate, there's gotta be some consolation. Maybe there'll be legends Constructicons. And if the voyager and deluxe transforming constructicons don't combine, I'm sure kit-bashers will find a way to make it work.

I love Animated Arcee. I was hoping Hasbro wouldn't re-paint Soundwave into Soundblaster as I've already done it, but I will have to buy him only for Ratbat. Movie Devastator is "meh" to me at this point. Some of the G1 Gestalts appeal more to me than this guy. Thanks for the photos though Ryan.

Supreme Convoy wrote:

Never saw the resemblance of Battlestar Galactica's Vipers until now

If someone could make a handheld weapon that became a vertical tail fin for the jet mode, that would be sweet.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm interested in the combining Devastator.
I won't be buying the transforming figures for two reasons. 1.) Really out of scale, 2.) They're ugly as sin.

I don't like that they don't combine, except for the Zordistator, (and even then it's just the vehicle modes to combined robot) but apparently you can't have everything.

The pickins is slim this year. Not amused.

Well, that confirms that Josh Nizzi's Long Haul concept will be in the movie.

Hell-Friggin'-Yeah!

All right. We're getting closer and closer to a G1 Arcee.

Though I would'nt be surprised if this is as far as we get.

Ratbat is Fail though. I can't see rebuying Soundwave for him.

FINALLY we have a true Arcee...granted its TFU but hey we never got a G1 version

Frac we must get Soundwave again in order to get Ratbat

I'm not sure about the constructicons from the movie line and devastator isn't what I was expecting. I like the animated stuff it look pretty cool can't wait to get my hands on the first proper looking arcee.

My verdict:

I'm generally pleased about the closeness of the figures to their CG models (the ones we've seen so far...). I'm still excited for new Optimus Prime Leader-Class...

Devastator ver. 2:

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This represents a conflict of interest for me. While I like the toy design for Devastator and even some of the names (save for "Hightower/Hook" and "Rampage/Bonecrusher" [3 guesses as to which name I'll be calling them...]), the fact that I'll have to buy SEPERATE Voyager-class toys for individual robot modes is nothing short of stupid and insulting. Reps from Hasbro are quoted (from AllSpark) as saying that:

"Large toys aren't cost effective in today's economy, so if they do them they have to be strongly integrated into the fiction."

"Strongly integrated into the fiction" huh? Who fits that bill? Hm... Oh, I know:

DEVASTATOR!!!

If Hasbro wanted to make Devastator, they should've bit the bullet and made Devy w/ individual Robot modes. It would save us some greenbacks and make us happy simultaneously. Seriously, who's runnin Hasbro these days?

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TFA Arcee:
IT'S ABOUT TIME... 'Nuff said.

To wrap it up:

- Leader-class OP still @ the top of my "must buy" list.
- Need soul searching to buy Devy...
- TFA Arcee is long overdue and should get the same treatment as Armada Unicron...

2009 won't be a bad year for our beloved Transformers.

i like twins they have an autobot symblo on there crothch faces look like theve beeen smashed ibn though.

could it be that hasbro has actually done something right thta we may get an actuall devastatr figure that forms in robot mode and into combiner mode he alos looks very top heavy if not positiond right he could fall over must buy for me ( icount 7 bots for him in combiner mode )?

i wander if the bots to form devastator will have bot modes or just the one with bnig wheel.

you think hasbro could do soemthing with bumblebee deluxe figure this time make him way he his except make it you can take off his & swithch it into battle mode it will save us on money & we wouldnt have to buy 2 of teh same figure with differnt heads

crap dang it im sold on the prime i like how he looks, thanks mega power bots loko like crap ill stick with the original

its funny how ultimate bumblebe is cheaper than devastator

whats with the universe series we allready seen all of them & most of them are in stores all ready.

ARCEE... SWORDS! SOUNDBLASTER... RATBAT?

I'm not jumping on the Devastator bashing wagon -yet. I will be disappointed if this is the only Devastator set, but I have not seen the rest of the Constructicons in their Voyager or Deluxe version, other than Demolishor and Rampage... and those two have the possibility to turn into parts of Devastator. I remember seeing one of the first Demolishor pics and the tracks can be placed at the shoulders, similar to what this vehicle-only Devastator counterpart does. And if you look closely to Deluxe Rampage, he has enough joints to easily be transformed into Devastator's left leg (and I think he has proper feet, just mistransformed.)

The Fallen, Jetfire, Megatron and other figures we've seen on leaked images, just because they weren't at this toy expo, it doesn't mean they don't exist as part of the line. So, I think the individual Constructicons we have not seen yet might be able to form Devastator.

The official Transformers Collectors' Club website has been updated with new images of new Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen figures.

Be sure to click on the "Transformers Main Movie line" or "Products for Younger Fans" to see the first images of some new ROTF toys in-packaging (including Demolisher & Rampage) as well as all-new Robot Heroes (including voice-changers, gravity-bots, and a "Battle for the Allspark" Multipack, showcasing the climactic action sequence from the end of the first film)

See them all by clicking here.

Thanks for posting all the new pictures


Arcee - Awesome! I need her
Soundblaster - Awesome! Black repaint = Cool
Ratbat - Keytarriffic!!!
Devastator - meh, I thought these new angles would make it look better. But all I see is an upside down Powershovel with a cement mixer on top facing backwards, with 4 deluxe figures for limbs. He may look awesome in the movie but I don't think he will be in my collection. (2 Voyagers + 4 Deluxes =/= $100)

Let me say these are fantastic photos!

Seibertron's > all.

JayDee wrote:I'm not jumping on the Devastator bashing wagon -yet. I will be disappointed if this is the only Devastator set, but I have not seen the rest of the Constructicons in their Voyager or Deluxe version, other than Demolishor and Rampage... and those two have the possibility to turn into parts of Devastator. I remember seeing one of the first Demolishor pics and the tracks can be placed at the shoulders, similar to what this vehicle-only Devastator counterpart does. And if you look closely to Deluxe Rampage, he has enough joints to easily be transformed into Devastator's left leg (and I think he has proper feet, just mistransformed.)

If that were the case it would render the set displayed rather pointless, no? What I don't understand is why Demolishor's "bot" mode blows so majorly when it's not even a compromise for the sake of forming Devastator...

Found this in the club email, which is how I went over there before hitting Seibertron today.

Thoughts based on what I see in the movie gallery there:

Demolishor: Likely pass for me. Great vehicle mode, but right now I'm pretty much "WTF?" about that robot mode. The problem I'm having is that he's pretty much going to stand on what should be his arms in robot mode, if I wanted to display him that way. Don't really like that much.

Breakaway: Pass only if this mold doesn't get a repaint somewhere down the line (which, knowing Hasbro, is likely). One of those figures where a good, solid-looking mold gets murdered by it's own deco to begin with, but gets fixed simply by falling victim to Hasbro's tendency to repaint.

Sideswipe: The difference between this figure and Breakaway is that while Sideswipe really should have been red to begin with, the deco isn't so god awful that I'd pass in the hope of the repaint I'd bet will come anyway.

Soundwave: Reminds me a bit of movie Megatron. Happy he's a triple-changer for the movie: not a big fan of him just having the satellite alt mode.

Rollbar: This is what Payload should have been.

So, let me get this straight, Devestator looks 100 percent cooler then he was in G1, and yet everyone hates it. Well, go figure.

I think everything shown today is freaking awesome, especially Rampage and Sideswipe. Those two designs rock. I mean, sure, there are a few things I won't buy, and there are quite a few things I don't really care for, but nothing sucked to me.

And BumbleSpud makes me rejoice.

I really like Zordastator. I usually display my gestalts combined anyway, so while it's nice to have all the components with separate bot modes, it's really not a deal breaker to me. As long as the combined mode looks the way it should. I'm happy.

Breakaway rules, likin' all the deluxes really. A shame about Skids and Mudflap though, bot modes=win, faces=supermegafail.

Gonna grab some of those Gravity Bots for my son, he'll love those. And I love the new Robot Heroes.

Why do those crappy Robot Replicas still exist? They're hideous, and they were shelfwarmers the last go around. Big ol' pass for me.

Animated Arcee and Soundblaster=MEGAWIN!

Gonna be an expensive summer.

Totally agree with you about the twins, love the bodies, don't really like the faces. Still, I love the larger arms on opposite sides, so I'm buying them.

Sledge wrote:Please, stop. You're just throwing out unsupported assertions here. I'll point you at RID Landfill and Rail Racer as examples of better combiners. Not that complex, but they stil managed individual robot modes.

People can have their own opinions.
This is the second time tonight I have been alerted to you and the disrespect of others opinions.

I have uploaded hundreds of photos that I took of Hasbro's ROTF display area. The gallery includes images of the Constructicons, Skids, Soundwave, new Robot Replicas, new Bumblebees, a new Leader Class Optimus Prime and more. You can view this gallery by clicking here.

It just occurred to me...

Upon further viewing of the Voyager-class Rampage/Bonecrusher, the front part of the dozer can split into 3 parts not unlike the Devastator figure. Is it possible that the other Voyager-class Constructicons can merge into their own Devastator? Or has that been answered?

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I'm concerned about Devastator's knee joints. It appears that there is quite a bit of upperbody mass. I wonder if you can make him stand straight up????

... and I guess Fortress Maximus is still the biggest Transformer figure...


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Kuribohfett wrote:So, let me get this straight, Devestator looks 100 percent cooler then he was in G1, and yet everyone hates it. Well, go figure.

I think everything shown today is freaking awesome, especially Rampage and Sideswipe. Those two designs rock. I mean, sure, there are a few things I won't buy, and there are quite a few things I don't really care for, but nothing sucked to me.

And BumbleSpud makes me rejoice.

Actually, everyone hates the figure not because of the way it looks, but because of the news that the individual components will not be sporting bot modes aside vehicle modes. Really doesn't justify the $100 price tag without the bot modes.

So far, the only figures I might be intrested in are Sideswipe, Breakaway (Love the gattling gun), Soundwave, Optimus Prime, and Starscream. And I'll only get Breakaway if you can possition the wings/back to make it look better. Other than that, These figures will be mine!

Roadbuster wrote:

Kuribohfett wrote:So, let me get this straight, Devestator looks 100 percent cooler then he was in G1, and yet everyone hates it. Well, go figure.

I think everything shown today is freaking awesome, especially Rampage and Sideswipe. Those two designs rock. I mean, sure, there are a few things I won't buy, and there are quite a few things I don't really care for, but nothing sucked to me.

And BumbleSpud makes me rejoice.

Actually, everyone hates the figure not because of the way it looks, but because of the news that the individual components will not be sporting bot modes aside vehicle modes. Really doesn't justify the $100 price tag without the bot modes.

That's a good point. I can understand that some people might feel a little gypped at no bot modes, and it is steep, but I guess I'd rather have two sets of Constructicons than have Hasbro cram everything into only one set. This way I can display them both ways, having my cake and eating it too. And maybe it's more expensive because of size, electronics, something like that. Only time will tell for sure.

And now for a non-Devastator related question (although pretty appropriate name for him with the "devastating" news that he's such a disappointment to many...lololololz) Anyhow, the alliance Bumblebee fig...is he really Alternator sized? Thanks much!

I am so very ecstatic to see a good Arcee figure. And as a car. This is one important step closer to getting a true, G1 Arcee in the Universe line. Wow.

Everything else is pretty underwhelming.

And Devastator.....

Devastator or not, that is one of the the ugliest, biggest wastes of plastic I've ever seen.

Leader Prime looks good as does Soundwave, dirtboss, knockout, & rollbar the rest look like gobots. Worse than the first movie figures i think. Except Strascream. He looks alot better but im renaming him again. Arcee looks great. About damn time they mad a real figure for her. I cant believe they gave animated Soundwave a frakin keytar. He already looks retarded enough now you have to twist the knife and give him that? I dont care if its Ratbat it still sucks. And of coarse its Soundwave so ill have to buy it. Damn you hasro. Universe Legends are a win. Looks like ill be adding another Hot Rod (or 3) to my collection. The RPMS i dont get. Yeah ill get Barricade since its Barricade but i dont see the point other than money for hasbro And possibly display options. Use the RPM to show alt mode rather than spending money on a 2nd or 3rd figure. The remote control prime is a cool idea. Would be better if it transformed but still cool. Devastator is an epic fail no matter how you look at it. Sideswipe looks cool but he looks to much like a generic anime robot rather than a Transformer. But that seems to be the theme of the movie other than smashing dreams and wheeled feet. Ill get him but once again rename. Thank you hasbro looks like ill be saving alot of money this year. Yeah right, knowing me ill go through withdrawl from not buying TF figures and buy all the crap i dont want. Well adds value to my ever growing collection. And i can pass them off as gobots or anime robots.

There is no way this can be $100 toy:



For 100 bucks you can get three real voyagers and 4 real deluxes. Shoot, even with the new prices you can ger more than 2 real voyagers and 4 real deluxes...

The individual vehicles look more like FABs too--maybe this is FAB Devastator!

Sigh...I guess there is still the smallest smidgeon of hope that's not it, but oh well...

I don't know, rounding up, four 13 dollar deluxes and two 23 dollar voyagers equals 98 bucks. It's about even. I suppose one could argue the lack of robot modes takes away from that, but like I said, maybe it does something more. Demolisher is a pretty big centerpiece.

You know, Devastator is slowly winning me over.

Supreme Convoy wrote:You know, Devastator is slowly winning me over.

Me too...

How awesome would it be to have this guy set up with the rest of your movie toys? I think the toy looks very cool, but I just can't visualize paying 100 dollars for it. But if the price drops, it's probably mine.

Can't wait for these toys to hit shelves.

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I think movie Devastators popularity will increase after everyone sees him in the movie. You know he's gonna be badass on screen.

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DavidT wrote:.
I think movie Devastators popularity will increase after everyone sees him in the movie. You know he's gonna be badass on screen.

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Wouldn't be shocked to see him become the Ultimate Bumblebee type fig...shelf warmer until x-mas time hits, then suddenly the hot holiday toy. But I wouldn't be shocked to see him sitting on the clearance rack either.

Well, here's my current outlook for 2009.

Animated Soundwave w/Ratbat- Probably going to get. I like the black repaint they gave him, and the keytar Ratbat just looks too cool to pass up.

Animated Arcee- I need this. Looks like the best Arcee figure yet, in my opinion, and I've passed up every other Arcee figure that's been released in my lifetime.

Movie Devastator- Pass. That thing doesn't look too good. Maybe if it's on clearance later on in the year? But I'm probably just going to buy the individual pieces, even if they don't combine.

Movie Retools/Remolds (Optimus Prime, Starscream, Ironhide, ETC)- Pass on all. I got them from the first movie, why would I need another one that looks a little different? Although the Starscream with hands looks nice...

Movie Sideswipe- REALLY nice figure, the only Movie figure I KNOW I must get.

Move Skids/Mudflap- I think their faces are funny, but I still think the figures are great.

Movie Scouts- Awesome alt ideas! A forklift is something that definately perks my interests.

Universe Legends- Need them all. Just depends if I can ever find them. Never had too much luck with the popular Legends figures.

Bumble Spud- I can't believe they're making another one. Still, if they had to pick another character, makes sense for it to be Bumblebee. And awesome name choice.

I've got to admit, I'm....confused. Very confused about Devastator. I simply have trouble visualizing them marketing 'Does not Transform' transformers...you would really think Hasbro would have learned from the Actionmaster debacle...

That said, I have high hopes for the transforming Cons to be able to combine....somehow...even as I admit that that would make No sense. It does please me that theres no mold cloning going on...and I'm Very curious about Mixmaster. Does Dev's mouth open up as a cannon?

I'm not sure if it;s been done yet because i haven't read through all the pages but lets all take a sec. and give a BIG thanks to Ryan (and staff?) for going through the trouble of getting these pics for us fans!

that being said here's my 2 cents...

im really dissipointed with most all the movie figs...
but im really happy (like a lot of you) that i'll be saving quite a chunk of change. however i would have been happy to shell out $$$ for AWESOME movie toys... i still think the movie will ROCK and i think it might even make it more enjoyable without having to worry about tracking down all the toys.

but who knows, in the end i might cave and end up collecting the whole set, only time will tell. but as for my first impressions of the movie line... Hey where the smilie of the guy throwing up?

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Electro-Static Soundwave w/ Ratbat....

Arcee looks tiny. Is she a scout class? What's up with the two hill-billy Transformers? I thought it was a joke when someone mentioned "hill-billy robots" last month. But now I see that it's no joke.

The Devastator fiasco doesn't surprise me. Hasbro probably chose to go this route just to make more money. There will be folks who will buy the Gestalt version and then spend extra money to buy the non-gestalt version just to obtain the robot modes. It's all about the all mighty dollar.

NotEnoughKibble wrote:

JayDee wrote:I'm not jumping on the Devastator bashing wagon -yet. I will be disappointed if this is the only Devastator set, but I have not seen the rest of the Constructicons in their Voyager or Deluxe version, other than Demolishor and Rampage... and those two have the possibility to turn into parts of Devastator. I remember seeing one of the first Demolishor pics and the tracks can be placed at the shoulders, similar to what this vehicle-only Devastator counterpart does. And if you look closely to Deluxe Rampage, he has enough joints to easily be transformed into Devastator's left leg (and I think he has proper feet, just mistransformed.)

If that were the case it would render the set displayed rather pointless, no? What I don't understand is why Demolishor's "bot" mode blows so majorly when it's not even a compromise for the sake of forming Devastator...

I agree - if the individual robot Constructicon toys were capable of merging together, then why wouldn't Hasbro display that during the Toy Fair event? In addition, the packages don't mention gestalt on them.

The Demolishor bot mode is very silly. I can only imagine that they are trying to make the toy true to the movie.

Holy CRAP!!! Did you see ROTF Rampage??? YES, HE DOES LOOK LIKE BONECRUSHER!

I will be waiting for a G1 redeco of that Devastator.
Why is Bonecrusher and Jazz included in that "Devastator final showdown" car set?

Stormrider wrote: The Devastator fiasco doesn't surprise me. Hasbro probably chose to go this route just to make more money. There will be folks who will buy the Gestalt version and then spend extra money to buy the non-gestalt version just to obtain the robot modes. It's all about the all mighty dollar.

Finally! Someone gets it! This wasn't a mistake or a 'lack of engineering technology' as some have suggested -- it's just old fashioned greed. Hasbro has played us for 25 years now, and they're getting craftier at separating us from our money with each successive toyline. The only reason for Hasbro to make two versions of Devastator is a sneaky attempt to make more money.

C'mon, let's be honest, we justify buying the same piece of plastic THREE TIMES simply because the toy is colored differently (i.e. Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker). That doesn't sound like good judgment to me, but I fall for it nevertheless. Hasbro is at the top of its game when it comes to doubling (or tripling) their money off of one product.

Frankly, this Devastator business is a little bit too far for me, though. Once they start selling us non-transforming figures from a toyline called 'Transformers,' you gotta take a step back and look at what they're handing us. As someone mentioned before, 'Robot Replicas' were shelfwarmers last time around, and I have a feeling that history will repeat itself there. Remember the last time Hasbro 'jumped the shark' with non-transforming bots? We witnessed the end of the G1 era with Action Masters! It took years for the line to recover!

I actually like the new Devastator mold, but I sure as hell won't spend $100 on a gestalt without individual robot modes, especially since it's highly likely that Hasbro will release an 'ultimate' Devastator edition sometime in the near future with fully transforming bots that combine, too. Look, if Hasbro could make fully converting gestalts happen in 1985, why can't they make it happen now? (and on a bigger scale to work with, no less...) I love the look of the new movie figs (Sideswipe and revamped Starscream are bitchin'!), but I'm not gonna fall for Hasbro's hocus pocus with the Devastator thing this time.

On that note, I truly hope that everybody who partakes in the Devy giftset is happy with their purchase and doesn't regret spending the money, but I have a distinct feeling that I'll be much more satisfied spending $12.99 on Sideswipe than $100.00 on an alt-mode only Devastator.

Let's hope ROTF kicks some butt!!!

Am I the only one that really likes Devastator (Combiner not Power Ranger version)? We know that the deluxe size have robot modes, or at least Rampage. Not sure how much I would pay for it though. I would probably but them seperately to spread the cost a bit. Who wants to bet Breakaway will not make it to the movie?

OK, this Devastator is an uber-epic-fail for me. What I don't get is> the transforming voyager red constructicon is called Demolishor here, while the non-transforming torso part has SCVNGR sign on him? Can anybody please explain?

This is the super big secret hasbro was protecting from the media and people????!!!!Looks like the hot air is out of the bag man.

Kids bought a combiner instead of a power ranger megazord or voltron robot because they wanted more than just 1 big figure. The movie devastator is such a letdown. Dudes come on. It looks nice but wnat the heck is going on? Kids might buy devastator but for its size I think its gonna be pricy anyway. If its a question of articulation, I don't think this figure is anymore flexible than a normal combiner. Is someone gonna pose him like he's doin a sommersalt or handstand? Look at the RID,beastwars and energon combiners.Were they that difficult to make?

What's up with the twins? When they reformated to earth vehicles they happened to see picasso's art and decided to look like it? Or like bumblebee lost his voice fighting meatron in the prequel comic did megatron knock their heads together or with a shovle for them to look like that?Or did hasbro hire people who were severely myopic to design the heads?

Overall I think that What are the guys in hasbro doing? Are they trying to do bad designs so that we would save money over the economical crisis?I guess this is what you get from a company doing coporate restructing before an economical crisis.Minimum manpower + maximum hours = alot of nothing.

hi guys! i know everyone's been talking about devastator and how awesome this guy is but are there any ideas on size of the human alliance figures? is it voyager or deluxe size?...im more interesteed on the bumblebee one. thanks!

Ugh Devastator looks like crap, look at those tiny legs.