TakaraTomy stock photos of WFC Siege SG-36 Deluxe Impactor and SG-37 Leader Galaxy Upgrade Optimus

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we'll get Galvaltron in Siege... Next year's line though or the one after that. But we generally know everything we're getting from Siege

You’re probably right, given the whole “pre-war” focus. It makes you wonder what the next two “themes” will be after Siege. I know the line is called War for Cybertron, but will we be seeing an Earth themed line next, or a continuation of the “Cybertronian mode” motif? Who knows.

This is just me, but I’m still waiting for the resurgence of Pretenders. Not those half-assed, lowest-price point Power of the Primes figures, but proper pretenders. There’s a lot of character potential, double pretenders, vehicle pretenders, the likes.

I personally think we could see a "time skip" from pre-Earth Cybertron to Rebirth Cybertron for the next part of the trilogy and then maybe an odd mix of the two Cybertrons for the last one if the Prine Wars trilogy is anything to go by with them combining the previous two line's gimmicks for the last one

Chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hasbro does know how to make sales. Buying three of the Refraktor figure allows you to create the classic camera mode of the original toy, it's quite ingenious how all the parts come together. The standalone figure is really good with a cool looking ship mode that 99% of collectors will probably only use once.

Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm not entirely sure if Galvatron could ever register as a 'high priority' for Hasbro. Truth be told, his TR Toy was pretty damn good outside of the horrendous implementation of the titan master and the crown. People give him too much crap, given he's shockingly toon-accurate in spite of being a triple-changer.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we'll get Galvaltron in Siege... Next year's line though or the one after that. But we generally know everything we're getting from Siege

You’re probably right, given the whole “pre-war” focus. It makes you wonder what the next two “themes” will be after Siege. I know the line is called War for Cybertron, but will we be seeing an Earth themed line next, or a continuation of the “Cybertronian mode” motif? Who knows.

This is just me, but I’m still waiting for the resurgence of Pretenders. Not those half-assed, lowest-price point Power of the Primes figures, but proper pretenders. There’s a lot of character potential, double pretenders, vehicle pretenders, the likes.

I personally think we could see a "time skip" from pre-Earth Cybertron to Rebirth Cybertron for the next part of the trilogy and then maybe an odd mix of the two Cybertrons for the last one if the Prine Wars trilogy is anything to go by with them combining the previous two line's gimmicks for the last one

I'd like that, but really who else is left from specifically post-rebirth other than Scorponok, Apeface, Snapdragon, Autobot Targetmasters, and Hosehead. I guess we could also throw in toy only's, so all the Targetmaster Juniors, the Headmaster Juniors, and maybe powermasters. Actually thinking about that, it could fill out a line nicely. Maybe get a proper Leader PMOP for the requisite leader Optimus and throw in a voyager or leader Godbomber to complete that. I wouldn't like it, and I doubt anyone would, but they could also turn the Powermaster engines into Targetmaster partners if for whatever reason they get through all of the ones from the Autobot Targetmasters and all of the target master juniors.

Then of course the fun part begins when the last part of the trilogy rolls around and goes full JG1. Victory Leo could stand in as the requisite leader Optimus via a technicality.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Impactor is... Looking better and also slightly worse? I'm starting to like the boxiness and general design, but the colors are iffy. The yellow is too yellow and the purple is too dark for my tastes. And wasn't he originally supposed to be a Decepticon in the fan vote?

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Impactor is looking better. It's a shame the paint doesn't quite match the plastic as far as the yellow is concerned but I'm share it won't be so bad in less intense lighting. I'm still on the fence about Galaxy Prime. He looks really good but I'm on a tight budget and something has to give if I'm going to get Omega and Jetfire.

Skritz wrote:If we get a new Galvatron I'd love to see those concepts/ideas (somehow!) reused:

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

00Stargrave00 wrote:

Skritz wrote:If we get a new Galvatron I'd love to see those concepts/ideas (somehow!) reused:

Now I’ve seen that MegaGalvatron art before (wicked) but what’s that second piece that’s really intruiging.

YoungPrime wrote:Some size comparison's would've been nice but other than that the review was quite informative.

I'm only buying 1 of these since I had already given up on waiting for a new Reflector set by Hasbro and bought the Papa Toys version last fall. So they'll be my "Reflector" trio.
I do like to troop build the Decepticons in my collection so I will buy just 1 Refractor who will just go by that name and will be recon for Shockwave. But if they do make a G1 version that comes as Spectro, Spyglass and Viewfinder in their G1 toy colors I might cave in and grab that set anyway.

00Stargrave00 wrote:I genuinely understand where some of the dislike for Galaxy Upgrade comes from but I have the classic version and this new version and the new version wins, hands down. Lights and sounds and firing missiles? Wheels on the trailer that are actual wheels? I get why the old one has love for it but the new Galaxy version is better in just about every way. More poseable, better scaled to the rest of its own body parts for crying out loud, and it doesn't have as much of a penchant for collapsing in on itself like a Unicron black hole. I don't think I'd be inclined to even post anything if he wasn't just so fun to pick up and play with in all of his modes it all fits together super well, on mine at least.

I just had to throw some Galaxy Upgrade love out there

ZeroWolf wrote:Jetfire looks so good, and I hear rumours that Symths in the UK may be stocking him Can't wait to see what other characters can be put in this class, Tidal Wave anyone?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

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We've had good jetfire toys for over 30 years.

I would even argue that we have not had a bad Jetfire toy

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Epsilon Delta wrote:I feel all the Siege prices should be at 75% of what they are selling at. Or line up with the studio series prices.

But, the SIEGE and Studio Series prices DO line up. Deluxe Class = $19.99, Voyager Class = $29.99, and Leader Class = $49.99 for BOTH toy lines.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Springer was the only bot from the animated movie that didn't show up in Prime Wars. I don't think we're due for new versions of the others very soon. Of course, WfC will be running for two more years, so who knows where it will take us before it's done.

Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm not entirely sure if Galvatron could ever register as a 'high priority' for Hasbro. Truth be told, his TR Toy was pretty damn good outside of the horrendous implementation of the titan master and the crown. People give him too much crap, given he's shockingly toon-accurate in spite of being a triple-changer.

Microbot wrote:So will be a possible REFRACTOR Gift Set? It's just a rumor or some true news? Also When we get more news about the next wave?

Skritz wrote:While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?

Skritz wrote:Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?

I'm pretty sure Apeface and Astrotrain would be next line if they do come out to be true. Especially since the listings showed a December release date

Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.

Oh, right, I assume you mean the mixed/reverse Marvel comic deco of 'white helmet red crest', correct?

Sabrblade wrote:Like I said, I'll take either that or the cartoon one so long as it's not another Prowl-colored Ratchet.

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Like I said, I'll take either that or the cartoon one so long as it's not another Prowl-colored Ratchet.

Things like this always make it interesting how experiencing the different shows at different times impacts what we think, because to me the Ratchet helmets from Prime and Animated are the right ones and what I want the figure to have, with the comic red helmet white crest being alright and the cartoon white and gray being a turn-off.

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

Nathaniel Prime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

I can sorta see where you are coming from, but for me, (insert unpopular opinion here), I prefer the Generations figure. I thought that was Straxus for me, and I don't really need another one for a while. Jhiaxus on the other hand, yeah, we need a new one of him.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:On the subject of Astrotrain...

The way I see it, we already got a SIEGE Astrotrain..
It just came out 2 years early during Titans Return

Hopefully the Astrotrain from the next part of the trilogy will have a steam engine mode. It's also good to hear about Apeface.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

I can sorta see where you are coming from, but for me, (insert unpopular opinion here), I prefer the Generations figure. I thought that was Straxus for me, and I don't really need another one for a while. Jhiaxus on the other hand, yeah, we need a new one of him.

Trocheman wrote:So i see these Siege figures all the time but been sticking to the Studio Series figures. im not to familiar with Siege. what exactly is the history behind this collection? sorry just new to this

Trocheman wrote:So i see these Siege figures all the time but been sticking to the Studio Series figures. im not to familiar with Siege. what exactly is the history behind this collection? sorry just new to this

Skritz wrote:

Trocheman wrote:So i see these Siege figures all the time but been sticking to the Studio Series figures. im not to familiar with Siege. what exactly is the history behind this collection? sorry just new to this

Its basically a remake of the Generation 1 cartoon-styled characters? How hard is that to guess?

ZeroWolf wrote:

Trocheman wrote:So i see these Siege figures all the time but been sticking to the Studio Series figures. im not to familiar with Siege. what exactly is the history behind this collection? sorry just new to this

Story line wise it's telling the story of the final days before both sides abandoned Cybertron, though currently there's no specific fiction for the toyline (there is a Netflix show based on Siege next year though). IDW is currently using Siege designs but that's a pre war story.

For practical purposes though, it's to help user in a new scale for the bot mode and to recreate the robot modes so they look as they did in the G1 cartoon.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Trocheman wrote:So i see these Siege figures all the time but been sticking to the Studio Series figures. im not to familiar with Siege. what exactly is the history behind this collection? sorry just new to this

Its basically a remake of the Generation 1 cartoon-styled characters? How hard is that to guess?

Hey now. Let's be fair - not everybody comes in familiar with the old stuff.

War for Cybertron: SIEGE is a continuation of the long chain of neo-G1 toys that began with the 2006 Classics line, featuring new toys of characters from the original toyline and cartoon - with occasional expansion to other Transformers universes. There have been varying design trends and premises over the years (for instance, in some years the toys leaned towards the quasi-Bayformer aesthetic that took over the first IDW continuity).

The conceit of SIEGE is that it takes place during the war as it was happening on Cybertron. It leans heavily towards the cartoon, to the point of translating the "Alien altmode, Earthly robot mode" laziness of the first three episodes into toy form for several characters - most notably the Seekers (Starscream, Thundercracker, etc).

Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

william-james88 wrote:

Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

Are you US based Skritz? Because if not, these can be a real pain to get at a decent price.