Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek
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Our friends at Shout! Factory have been kind enough to send us an advanced copy of their upcoming Transformers Armada - The Complete Series DVD set! The set isn't scheduled to hit retail until March 11th, but we've got a sneak peek at the packaging below. Click here to pre-order the set over on Shout! Factory's website for $37.99.
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Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553286)
Posted by hinomars19 on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:35pm CST
Posted by hinomars19 on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:35pm CST
That looks a million times better than the energon set 
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553300)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:23pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:23pm CST
Pass. The content isn't any improvement over my Rhino DVD sets, so I'd only be buying it for the packaging, which is just old, recycled art from the Dreamwave era.
Though, reading the back description in Jim Conrad's voice feels really appropriate.
And, I find it funny how the fact that the Autobots have to protect humanity in addition to protecting the Mini-Cons looks tacked on like it was an afterthought. "The Mini-Cons are the most important thing in the world! They must be protected at all cost! ... Oh, and uh, some humans, gotta save them too."
Though, reading the back description in Jim Conrad's voice feels really appropriate.
And, I find it funny how the fact that the Autobots have to protect humanity in addition to protecting the Mini-Cons looks tacked on like it was an afterthought. "The Mini-Cons are the most important thing in the world! They must be protected at all cost! ... Oh, and uh, some humans, gotta save them too."
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553308)
Posted by griftimus prime on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:50pm CST
Posted by griftimus prime on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:50pm CST
should have put the dreamwave art on the outside. epic fail
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553309)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:53pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:53pm CST
They did. ALL of the art in this set is recycled from then. None of it is new.griftimus prime wrote:should have put the dreamwave art on the outside. epic fail
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553317)
Posted by UltraPrimal on February 24th, 2014 @ 5:38pm CST
Posted by UltraPrimal on February 24th, 2014 @ 5:38pm CST
I don't suppose they went back and fixed any of the many, many errors in the show?
I might get this on sale or something.
I might get this on sale or something.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553320)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 5:43pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 5:43pm CST
No one ever did for the English version. Only the Japanese version got fixed, but Hasbro doesn't own that version and doesn't care enough to want to.UltraPrimal wrote:I don't suppose they went back and fixed any of the many, many errors in the show?
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553353)
Posted by Anonymous on February 24th, 2014 @ 9:43pm CST
Posted by Anonymous on February 24th, 2014 @ 9:43pm CST
Let's put it this way, even if you pretty up a piece of turd, in the end it still looks and smells the same. Armada got some of the worst treatment here in the West. Never mind the fact that it was unfinished animation, but the fact there were so many errors with the script that it was embarrassing.
Sadly, it always seems that whatever Transformers series we get from Japan, there's also some weird production issues with it. If these guys offered a new transfer with both English and Japanese language with subtitles it would be a definite purchase for me.
The same goes with Japan when they get our productions of Transformers, you end up with weird stuff like in Beast Wars where Air Razor is a guy or the fact that DVD collection is missing 2 episodes (Bad Spark - which came with the BW2 Movie and Cutting edge)
Then there's Transformers Prime in Japan, where you don't even get the 3rd season.
Sadly, it always seems that whatever Transformers series we get from Japan, there's also some weird production issues with it. If these guys offered a new transfer with both English and Japanese language with subtitles it would be a definite purchase for me.
The same goes with Japan when they get our productions of Transformers, you end up with weird stuff like in Beast Wars where Air Razor is a guy or the fact that DVD collection is missing 2 episodes (Bad Spark - which came with the BW2 Movie and Cutting edge)
Then there's Transformers Prime in Japan, where you don't even get the 3rd season.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553354)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 9:53pm CST
Same with RiD, as a lot of its dubbing issues were out of the dubbers hands thanks to 9/11.
Though, just as long as Hasbro itself stays far away from the subtitle script since their interference with the subtitles of the Shout! Factory Japanese G1 series DVD sets ruined those subtitles.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 9:53pm CST
And how! The production both the Armada and Energon dubs were so rushed and so terrible that it's become a chore to sit through either.kary wrote:Let's put it this way, even if you pretty up a piece of turd, in the end it still looks and smells the same. Armada got some of the worst treatment here in the West. Never mind the fact that it was unfinished animation, but the fact there were so many errors with the script that it was embarrassing.
Save for Cybertron, which did not have a rushed production and most of its changes seemed deliberate.kary wrote:Sadly, it always seems that whatever Transformers series we get from Japan, there's also some weird production issues with it.
Same with RiD, as a lot of its dubbing issues were out of the dubbers hands thanks to 9/11.
Not sure dual-audio could work unless the time duration of the English version was equal to that of the Japanese version, but I'd definitely take a subtitled release with the Japanese audio.kary wrote:If these guys offered a new transfer with both English and Japanese language with subtitles it would be a definite purchase for me.
Though, just as long as Hasbro itself stays far away from the subtitle script since their interference with the subtitles of the Shout! Factory Japanese G1 series DVD sets ruined those subtitles.
That's because those two episode weren't treated as part of the Japanese dub's episodes, being treated as feature films instead. Their removal is also was "Where is the Banana?" and "Remix: I Lost the Banana" were created.kary wrote:The same goes with Japan when they get our productions of Transformers, you end up with weird stuff like in Beast Wars where Air Razor is a guy or the fact that DVD collection is missing 2 episodes (Bad Spark - which came with the BW2 Movie and Cutting edge)
Apparently, TF: Prime's Japanese dub bombed in the Japan that releasing season three over there may not be worth it for them. There's also the matter of Transformers Go! succeeding Prime season 2 in its stead, what with the altered ending done to episode 52 of TF: Prime.kary wrote:Then there's Transformers Prime in Japan, where you don't even get the 3rd season.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553369)
Posted by Ultra Markus on February 24th, 2014 @ 10:43pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on February 24th, 2014 @ 10:43pm CST
"And, I find it funny how the fact that the Autobots have to protect humanity in addition to protecting the Mini-Cons looks tacked on like it was an afterthought. "The Mini-Cons are the most important thing in the world! They must be protected at all cost! ... Oh, and uh, some humans, gotta save them too.""
yeah, that is funny but its a kids show it isn't supposed to be logical! Any TF cartoon for that matter
yeah, that is funny but its a kids show it isn't supposed to be logical! Any TF cartoon for that matter
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (1553373)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 11:13pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 11:13pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:yeah, that is funny but its a kids show it isn't supposed to be logical! Any TF cartoon for that matter
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Posted by YRQRM0 on February 25th, 2014 @ 2:30pm CST
Posted by YRQRM0 on February 25th, 2014 @ 2:30pm CST
Would be an instant buy if it had the improved animation...shame.
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Posted by LatoyaMartinez on April 9th, 2014 @ 12:40am CDT
Posted by LatoyaMartinez on April 9th, 2014 @ 12:40am CDT
like like like 
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 2:08pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 2:08pm CDT
Soooo... here's something we never knew existed.
According to a discussion on this TFWiki talk page, a discovery has been made that episode 40 of Armada, "Remorse", was given a second English dub that contains some lines altered from its original English version, as well as the Unicron Battles version of the opening that original premiered with episode 41 instead.
The new lines that have been changed feature a new filter on the Autobots' voices that make them sound even more metallic and monotone than before, and now their dialogue mentions Smokescreen's name having been changed to Hoist two episodes earlier than when his name change was first brought up in Episode 42.
Further details on this are as follows:
This discovery was first found on the Tubi TV streaming version of the episode, and has now been confirmed on Twitter to also exist on the Shout! Factory DVD release of the series, while the original Rhino DVD release had only the first dub version.
This makes me wonder if there might have been any other dub changes made at the time in any other episodes, which could also be found on the Shout! Factory DVD set.
According to a discussion on this TFWiki talk page, a discovery has been made that episode 40 of Armada, "Remorse", was given a second English dub that contains some lines altered from its original English version, as well as the Unicron Battles version of the opening that original premiered with episode 41 instead.
The new lines that have been changed feature a new filter on the Autobots' voices that make them sound even more metallic and monotone than before, and now their dialogue mentions Smokescreen's name having been changed to Hoist two episodes earlier than when his name change was first brought up in Episode 42.
Further details on this are as follows:
Fred had his first line extended from "Is there any way we can fix Optimus?" to add, "the way we fixed up Smokescreen? I mean Hoist?", which required starting the line sooner and made his speech overlap with the animation of him just crying. Red Alert's response was then rewritten some to fit in another mention of Smokescreen's deal, going from...
"I'm sorry. It can't be done. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon's blast, and without it, there's no way we can bring him back. I wish there was some way we could, but we're just going to have to pull ourselves together and carry on without him."
to...
"No. I'm sorry, we can't. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon. We saved Smokescreen's Spark and were able to reformat him into Hoist. I wish there was some way that we could but... we're just going to have to carry on without him."
And sure enough, in the next scene, "Try and be more careful, Smokescreen!" was replaced with, "Please, try and be more careful, Hoist."
This discovery was first found on the Tubi TV streaming version of the episode, and has now been confirmed on Twitter to also exist on the Shout! Factory DVD release of the series, while the original Rhino DVD release had only the first dub version.
This makes me wonder if there might have been any other dub changes made at the time in any other episodes, which could also be found on the Shout! Factory DVD set.
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Posted by Bounti76 on July 20th, 2020 @ 6:26pm CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on July 20th, 2020 @ 6:26pm CDT
Thanks to our own Sabrblade, we have some interesting news about the
Armada episode 'Remorse'- a second English dub of the episode had been discovered!
Wait.... Armada? And an episode that aired nearly 17 years ago?? Apparently, it was discovered that a streaming service, TubiTV, used the Shout Factory version of the Armada series (instead of the original release on Rhino DVD and in that episode, a second English dub was discovered that slightly changes some plot details, as well as some lines changing significantly. Read on to discover what Sabrblade found out.
Have any of you Armada fans noticed anything similar, if you have both DVD releases? Let us know below!
Armada episode 'Remorse'- a second English dub of the episode had been discovered!
Wait.... Armada? And an episode that aired nearly 17 years ago?? Apparently, it was discovered that a streaming service, TubiTV, used the Shout Factory version of the Armada series (instead of the original release on Rhino DVD and in that episode, a second English dub was discovered that slightly changes some plot details, as well as some lines changing significantly. Read on to discover what Sabrblade found out.
Sabrblade wrote:Soooo... here's something we never knew existed.
According to a discussion on this TFWiki talk page, a discovery has been made that episode 40 of Armada, "Remorse", was given a second English dub that contains some lines altered from its original English version, as well as the Unicron Battles version of the opening that original premiered with episode 41 instead.
The new lines that have been changed feature a new filter on the Autobots' voices that make them sound even more metallic and monotone than before, and now their dialogue mentions Smokescreen's name having been changed to Hoist two episodes earlier than when his name change was first brought up in Episode 42.
Further details on this are as follows:Fred had his first line extended from "Is there any way we can fix Optimus?" to add, "the way we fixed up Smokescreen? I mean Hoist?", which required starting the line sooner and made his speech overlap with the animation of him just crying. Red Alert's response was then rewritten some to fit in another mention of Smokescreen's deal, going from...
"I'm sorry. It can't be done. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon's blast, and without it, there's no way we can bring him back. I wish there was some way we could, but we're just going to have to pull ourselves together and carry on without him."
to...
"No. I'm sorry, we can't. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon. We saved Smokescreen's Spark and were able to reformat him into Hoist. I wish there was some way that we could but... we're just going to have to carry on without him."
And sure enough, in the next scene, "Try and be more careful, Smokescreen!" was replaced with, "Please, try and be more careful, Hoist."
This discovery was first found on the Tubi TV streaming version of the episode, and has now been confirmed on Twitter to also exist on the Shout! Factory DVD release of the series, while the original Rhino DVD release had only the first dub version.
This makes me wonder if there might have been any other dub changes made at the time in any other episodes, which could also be found on the Shout! Factory DVD set.
Have any of you Armada fans noticed anything similar, if you have both DVD releases? Let us know below!
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Posted by o.supreme on July 20th, 2020 @ 9:02pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 20th, 2020 @ 9:02pm CDT
I have the entire series on DVD, the originals from Rhino. When it said , different dub, I initially thought it meant a different voice cast ( as in the case of Megatron in the first episode of Cybertron). But sine it's the same voices with different dialogue, that is quite some detective work Sabre. I'll never know Armada well enough to notice any changes in dialogue. I've been watching some BW on Tubi mostly for convenience. It's nice so many TF series Arron there even though I have them all on DVD.
If you were watching Armada for research, I'm sorry, if you were watching it for fun, I'm still sorry.
If you were watching Armada for research, I'm sorry, if you were watching it for fun, I'm still sorry.
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Posted by bvzxa on July 20th, 2020 @ 9:35pm CDT
Posted by bvzxa on July 20th, 2020 @ 9:35pm CDT
It wouldnt surprise me as Cartoon Network rushed the show to be aired and pretty much the animation was either unfinished or poorly drawn. However in Japan when Micron Legend was released they got the full animation frame by frame for many episodes.
http://www.conventionscene.com/2014/03/05/scene-reviewed-transformers-armada-complete-series/
http://www.conventionscene.com/2014/03/05/scene-reviewed-transformers-armada-complete-series/
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: Armada The Complete Series DVD Set Packaging Sneak Peek (2072982)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:04pm CDT
But of course, this is not the only instance of a Unicron Trilogy series episode having two different dub versions. Energon's first episode got two different dubs as well. One that aired on TV that was more or less a faithful translation of the Japanese version, and a second new dub that first appeared on Paramount's DVD releases that contained significant line changes, moved some scenes around, and even cut out a shot or two for no good reason (example: A shot of Rad, Carlos, and Alexis as grownups was cut out of this second dub) begging the question of why this second version was made for that episode in the first place when the original version was perfectly serviceable.
The only translation error that was actually corrected by this second dub was a line in the first dub that had Alpha Q declare himself to be a servant of Unicron, which is what he was in the Dreamwave Energon comics but not in the cartoon. This line was omitted in the second dub of the episode, but every other change made to that episode by this second dub just seemed pointless.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:04pm CDT
Heh, well, all I did was stumble upon the TFWiki talk page discussion. Bag of Magic Food was the user who discovered the change, Chris McFeely looked into it, and Twitter user SBGHaseo confirmed it for him. I'm just the messenger in this case.o.supreme wrote:that is quite some detective work Sabre.
But of course, this is not the only instance of a Unicron Trilogy series episode having two different dub versions. Energon's first episode got two different dubs as well. One that aired on TV that was more or less a faithful translation of the Japanese version, and a second new dub that first appeared on Paramount's DVD releases that contained significant line changes, moved some scenes around, and even cut out a shot or two for no good reason (example: A shot of Rad, Carlos, and Alexis as grownups was cut out of this second dub) begging the question of why this second version was made for that episode in the first place when the original version was perfectly serviceable.
The only translation error that was actually corrected by this second dub was a line in the first dub that had Alpha Q declare himself to be a servant of Unicron, which is what he was in the Dreamwave Energon comics but not in the cartoon. This line was omitted in the second dub of the episode, but every other change made to that episode by this second dub just seemed pointless.
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Posted by TulioDude on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:30pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:30pm CDT
Maybe this is the sign we have been looking for!
Day 203 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Day 203 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:33pm CDT
But this dub is 17 years old.TulioDude wrote:Maybe this is the sign we have been looking for!
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Posted by TulioDude on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:47pm CDT
It's the winds of change...
Posted by TulioDude on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:47pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But this dub is 17 years old.TulioDude wrote:Maybe this is the sign we have been looking for!
It's the winds of change...
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Posted by Bag of Magic Food on July 21st, 2020 @ 11:00pm CDT
Heh, I was only watching casually too, but I like reading TFWiki's write-ups after every story just to be sure I know who every character was and didn't miss anything, so it jumped out at me when the wiki failed to acknowledge new developments like a name change in the same episode. There may have been a few other episodes that had a different version of the intro narration than when online sources tell me each started; I had shrugged it off as Tubi messing around, since swapping the intros would be an easy edit for anyone to make, but if anyone's bored, you could go see if it's the Shout DVDs that differ there too! (You may also need the DVD for this series just because Tubi won't show episode 17, at least in my area right now. It may have something to do with the following episodes 18 through 39 having an issue with the sound leveling where voices are too quiet and/or sound effects are too loud, so maybe they've just been taking episodes down one at a time to work on redoing that.)
And while Tubi's catalog is generally based on the Shout Factory releases, which must be why you can't find the later seasons of Rescue Bots or either series called "Robots in Disguise" there, we also discovered that its Generation 1 episodes are ripped from the old Rhino DVDs, only with most of the commercial bumpers deleted, and with the 2.0 sound mix so you don't hear any of the infamous "bonus" sound effects Rhino added. The series is presented in the episode order from Shout's discs, though!
Posted by Bag of Magic Food on July 21st, 2020 @ 11:00pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I'll never know Armada well enough to notice any changes in dialogue. I've been watching some BW on Tubi mostly for convenience.
Heh, I was only watching casually too, but I like reading TFWiki's write-ups after every story just to be sure I know who every character was and didn't miss anything, so it jumped out at me when the wiki failed to acknowledge new developments like a name change in the same episode. There may have been a few other episodes that had a different version of the intro narration than when online sources tell me each started; I had shrugged it off as Tubi messing around, since swapping the intros would be an easy edit for anyone to make, but if anyone's bored, you could go see if it's the Shout DVDs that differ there too! (You may also need the DVD for this series just because Tubi won't show episode 17, at least in my area right now. It may have something to do with the following episodes 18 through 39 having an issue with the sound leveling where voices are too quiet and/or sound effects are too loud, so maybe they've just been taking episodes down one at a time to work on redoing that.)
And while Tubi's catalog is generally based on the Shout Factory releases, which must be why you can't find the later seasons of Rescue Bots or either series called "Robots in Disguise" there, we also discovered that its Generation 1 episodes are ripped from the old Rhino DVDs, only with most of the commercial bumpers deleted, and with the 2.0 sound mix so you don't hear any of the infamous "bonus" sound effects Rhino added. The series is presented in the episode order from Shout's discs, though!
