Robots in Disguise Menasor and Team Bee 4-Bot Combiners Teased

Well, sh*t. There we go, then.

I really want a good toy of both those combiners. Damn they look awesome.

And they had better name him Ultra Bee

Weird how they're both four-bot combiners when the season 3 press release said the Decepticon combiner was five bots.

And Drift gets left out of the Autobot one from some reason.

Sabrblade wrote:Weird how they're both four-bot combiners when the season 3 press release said the Decepticon combiner was five bots.

And Drift gets left out of the Autobot one from some reason.

It is weird. But hey, maybe him, optimus, Ratchet, and Windblade will form a whole other combiner!

Also, let's couple this combiner news to the fact that we are getting 3 new aerialbot toys. Possible RiD Superion?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Weird how they're both four-bot combiners when the season 3 press release said the Decepticon combiner was five bots.

And Drift gets left out of the Autobot one from some reason.

It is weird. But hey, maybe him, optimus, Ratchet, and Windblade will form a whole other combiner!

Him and three others who aren't in the show anymore?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Also, let's couple this combiner news to the fact that we are getting 3 new aerialbot toys. Possible RiD Superion?

Did you know Stormshot's on-package bio calls him an "aerialbot"?

Sabrblade wrote:Weird how they're both four-bot combiners when the season 3 press release said the Decepticon combiner was five bots.

And Drift gets left out of the Autobot one from some reason.

It's possible one of them could be a smaller toy that's an optional attachment, ala the Legends figures in CW.

Does this seem really experimental to anyone else? Like, after they finally figured out how to do Combiners well, they're now aiming simpler and in a main line to see if it's possible for them to A) Do a full combiner in a main line, and B) be able to go back to doing Combiners without having the line dominated by them, like how they were in the G1 toyline and - dare I say it - Energon and FoC?

Sabrblade wrote:Weird how they're both four-bot combiners when the season 3 press release said the Decepticon combiner was five bots.

And Drift gets left out of the Autobot one from some reason.

There could be more then one Con Combiner just like we got 3 Aerialbot so far with probably a 4th and maybe a 5th (Stormshot, Skysledge and Stormhammer the latter 2 who combine into Skyhammer just like how Bee and Sidewipe combine into a two bot combiner)

I think that maybe we get Combaticons who combine into Bruticus and if it had to be a 4 bot combiner they would probably leave out Blastoff which could be explained through this.




Yeah yeah the games and comics are not exactly connected perfectly but I think that it could be a reason if they go through a 4 bot Bruticus like a line from Swindle or Vortex saying "Yeah we lost one of our own in the great war just like how the Stunticons lost Breakdown here on Earth" plus it's not like Blastoff's fate after the games is going to be revealed or anything with High Moon gone.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Also, let's couple this combiner news to the fact that we are getting 3 new aerialbot toys. Possible RiD Superion?

Did you know Stormshot's on-package bio calls him an "aerialbot"?

I did not no. I saw his alpine drift wavemate at TRU today, so I mustve just missed him, otherwise I would've see the toy at least.

But, i'm looking forward to season 3. All this combining stuff actually seems really cool

Of course, as established in previous Aligned media (WFC and Exodus in particular), the terms "Aerialbot" and "Seeker" refer to all flying jet-moded Transformers in general, with the book further establishing that they were all once Seekers in the pre-war factionless days, and when the factions rose up, the whole Seeker subgroup joined the Decepticons while any defectors who sided with the Autobots renamed themselves as "Aerialbots" (save for Jetfire, who considered himself still a Seeker but an Autobot one).

Of course, this all was only executed in Aligned fiction, so it's neat to see the "Aerialbot = jetformer Autobot" label carried over further into RID 2015.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Breakdown pushed up lugnuts in Prime. That's why there's only four Stunticons. I forgot about that, considering Breakdown's model in the show was a little bit too busty to share size with the likes of Dead End or Dragstrip. His G1 connection to the Stunticons has been suppressed from my memory for eons thanks to Prime.

Interesting thought: Bee, Sides, and Strong are all about the same size, and Grim is much larger than them. As a result, Grim forms the pants down, while the other 3 make up the chest and arms.

What if... They use Breakdown (screw being dead) or one of the other Stunticons uses his body type, and that one forms the pants like Grim and the other 3 make the rest?

Menasor doesn't look bad, but do we need another one so soon? I know we've ditched the metal furries in favor of more G1 rehashes, but I can't help but wonder if other options (aside from Bruticus, which we had one of even more recently than Menasor) were ever seriously considered.

The Bee Team combiner, on the other hand, delights me. For some reason I just love combiners with mixed alt modes. Three cars and a dinosaur? Sounds fun.

Not that I'd get my hopes up for either of these with movie toys on the way, mind you. History could all too easily repeat.

Sabrblade wrote:And Drift gets left out of the Autobot one from some reason.

He's always struck me as not being close to the rest of the team the way the first five members of the Bee Team are to each other.

As for the combiners we've been dealt, I wonder if they'll go the Tobots route and make each component only go from vehicle to combined modes. I for one wouldn't mind since we already have at least six different molds of each of those Autobots already that go from robot to vehicle. It would also be interesting to see how Hasbro would handle something like that since they pretty much mastered highly articulated combiners without compromising any of the three modes too much at a normal price point. You'd think it would be an easier thing to do but who knows.

kind of excited to see this in action

well...scrap,

The Team Bee combiner doesn't look half bad. I'll need a better look at Menasor before forming an opinion on him, though.

Some potentially mixed news for these combiners. I got sent a pic from a TRU (Canadian) buddy that shows their listing in the system. There's a listing for a Combiner Team that's only $50. For reference, Crash Combiners are listed as $20. This seems likely to indicate the team will comprise of simplified Transformers. I'm sure a simple version was inevitable, and I guess this doesn't erase the possibility of Warrior class combiners or anything. That said he told me he tried all sorts of other searches and couldn't find anything else that we don't know of (say a Grimlock of a larger size to become proper pants). Though, I suppose at the end of the day, even if the individual bots are simplified, it isn't like we don't have other versions of them available, so if the combined mode is at least somewhat properly articulated then I'd probably be fine with it.

Thanks!where is the SKN # written?

william-james88 wrote:Thanks!where is the SKN # written?

Towards the top left. 308746.

ooooooooo....

if these quad-combiners are half as cool as the art
and 5/6 as good as Combo Wars
i am all over these dudes!

Also
they better have individual robot modes!
orelse ders gonner be issues...
ISSUES I TELLS YA!

Right.....so what happened to the new season airing in Germany this month? 'Cause we're kind of running out of January here.

PrymeStriker wrote:Right.....so what happened to the new season airing in Germany this month? 'Cause we're kind of running out of January here.

Haven't heard a thing about the new season since that. Dunno where it is

Seibertronian Scottyp has let us know that Amazon.com has uploaded a new listing for a Robots in Disguise DVD. The new DVD, titled 'Overloaded and Decepticon Island,' is up for pre-order and will be available May 30 of this year. The DVD's run time is 88 minutes, which means that the 2 part 'Overloaded' and the 2 part 'Decepticon Island' will be the only 4 episodes available. Check out the listing by following the above link, and check out the cover below!

Well, that's a strange pair of two-parters. The Season 2 premiere and the Season 2 finale, bookends without the books that connect the two.

Really wish they'd just dump the full seasons out on Blu-Ray instead of doing things like this first. Oh well. It'll be like my Energon DVD collection one of these days where I've got half the series on singles and a box set of the full thing to fill in the gaps

ScottyP wrote:Really wish they'd just dump the full seasons out on Blu-Ray instead of doing things like this first. Oh well. It'll be like my Energon DVD collection one of these days where I've got half the series on singles and a box set of the full thing to fill in the gaps

Why not just wait till they release the whole thing?

william-james88 wrote:Why not just wait till they release the whole thing?

Exactly. S!F pattern of releasing single/impulse purchase DVD's first is frustrating to be sure, but waiting until they release the whole season is always a pretty safe bet (unless its Rescue Bots...). Even then, why are you hanging on to single-disc releases of Energon? why not sell them if you have the box set?

I mean the last series I bought single DVD's of was Spectacular Spider-Man because in 2009-2010 there was no sign of full season sets, until 2014 when the whole 26 episodes were released on BRD and DVD. Then I purchased that set and dumped the singles. Since then I've just learned to wait (as with RiD15) or just live without (as in the case of Rescue Bots, and pretty much all of Disney/Marvels animated series since they are not available in any physical media form)

Combienr Force Bruticus Revealed!

william-james88 wrote:Combienr Force Bruticus Revealed!

Looks awesome, but because this is in the animated series thread, has it been confirmed he will appear in the series, and not just as a toy?

Interesting. He looks like a classic five-piece Combiner, compared to Ultra Bee's four.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Combienr Force Bruticus Revealed!

Looks awesome, but because this is in the animated series thread, has it been confirmed he will appear in the series, and not just as a toy?

I put it here because he is more likely to appear in the animated series than as a toy. All toys so far have appeared in the animated series but only half or less of characters made it to toys. And Bruticus was not part of the latst app update for toys.

If you have not gotten around to watching season 2 it is now available on Netflix.com for your viewing pleasure. There is also a 6 part mini series under the season 3 category. The highlight of this season is the return of some fan favorite characters from Transformers: Prime. But don't worry, we won't spoil a thing. Enjoy!

If RiD does not suit your fancy, we suggest checking out an upcoming documentary on some nostalgic 80's toys!

Linking this news story cause it covers some important stuff for us here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... air/37399/

So, the new title sequence has Dragbreak, or whatever that guys name is, and the combiner force logo. So, we are getting season 3 people, and we are certainly getting combiners!

The Menasor and Ultrabee round shots look cool, and if you look, Drift actually forms the sword for Ultra bee!

Still only the first 13 episodes of season 1 on UK Netflix.

FINALLY!!! Know what I'm doing- binge watching RiD w/ my brothers.

After binging season two, want to point something out about the "first" season finale (Decepticon Island). Also, obviously, spoilers to continue. In the first part, the team find the Fix-It type Minicons being held. Optimus wants to stop the mission to cyro-bomb the Alchemor to rescue them and this pause in the mission causes them to be caught be Steeljaw and the Decepticon army, ending the first part. Let me note that Bumblebee was against stopping to save them, likely because if the mission succeeded, they could save the caretaker Minicons. When the next part begins and they barely get away (w/o Windblade), Optimus Prime berates Bubblebee because "completing the mission needed to be the priority". Hypocrisy much, OP?

Nexus Knight wrote:After binging season two, want to point something out about the "first" season finale (Decepticon Island). Also, obviously, spoilers to continue. In the first part, the team find the Fix-It type Minicons being held. Optimus wants to stop the mission to cyro-bomb the Alchemor to rescue them and this pause in the mission causes them to be caught be Steeljaw and the Decepticon army, ending the first part. Let me note that Bumblebee was against stopping to save them, likely because if the mission succeeded, they could save the caretaker Minicons. When the next part begins and they barely get away (w/o Windblade), Optimus Prime berates Bubblebee because "completing the mission needed to be the priority". Hypocrisy much, OP?

I think Optimus is losing it a bit in this show. Those first few episodes show you how off he is in his reasoning. I dont know why they made him so hard to root for in this show.

I'll probably watch some of the eps I missed on TV and the eps with my favs from Prime. I could use some cheer, it's been a long day. I think RiD is good for that. Despite it's flaws it is a cheery show.

william-james88 wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:After binging season two, want to point something out about the "first" season finale (Decepticon Island). Also, obviously, spoilers to continue. In the first part, the team find the Fix-It type Minicons being held. Optimus wants to stop the mission to cyro-bomb the Alchemor to rescue them and this pause in the mission causes them to be caught be Steeljaw and the Decepticon army, ending the first part. Let me note that Bumblebee was against stopping to save them, likely because if the mission succeeded, they could save the caretaker Minicons. When the next part begins and they barely get away (w/o Windblade), Optimus Prime berates Bubblebee because "completing the mission needed to be the priority". Hypocrisy much, OP?

I think Optimus is losing it a bit in this show. Those first few episodes show you how off he is in his reasoning. I dont know why they made him so hard to root for in this show.

Yeah, he kind of is. Which is sad for me because in Prime he was my absolute most favorite character, hands down. His sacrifice at the end of Predacons Rising was a bit heartbreaking, but completely in-character and felt right. I think bringing him back for RiD made that sacrifice feel less... eh. I know that's his shtick, but it ruined his arc in Prime for me some.
But I'll watch RiD because I still think it's a fun show and it's nice to see other characters try the leadership position.

Since Netflix now has season 1 and 2 I'm giving it another shot. Haven't watched an episode since the premier...I think. Is there any particular reason it's worth watching? I'm still having trouble dealing with their portrayal of Grimlock, it hurts me; in my soul.

The Grim King wrote:Since Netflix now has season 1 and 2 I'm giving it another shot. Haven't watched an episode since the premier...I think. Is there any particular reason it's worth watching? I'm still having trouble dealing with their portrayal of Grimlock, it hurts me; in my soul.

I like Season 2 better because there are some episodes with some characters from Prime that I like. I also enjoy the animal themed Decepticons. It's a little bit kiddy and the art style isn't as nice as prime but it has its moments.

Nexus Knight wrote:Yeah, he kind of is. Which is sad for me because in Prime he was my absolute most favorite character, hands down. His sacrifice at the end of Predacons Rising was a bit heartbreaking, but completely in-character and felt right. I think bringing him back for RiD made that sacrifice feel less... eh. I know that's his shtick, but it ruined his arc in Prime for me some.
But I'll watch RiD because I still think it's a fun show and it's nice to see other characters try the leadership position.

I agree in that I love how Op was portrayed in TF Prime, however RiD15 is written for a much younger audience, despite occurring in the same continuity. This is very much BB's show, not Op's, so they have to build some tension between the two, showing how- while their leadership styles differ, and they both work independently, they don't work well at the same time.

I kind of wish also that Op stayed in the Obi-Wan Kenobi like role as a non-living mentor to BB. But if you go back to the original series, Op's resurrection also made his sacrifice from TF:TM feel less impactful as well. It's an unfortunate trend that will no doubt continue as long as there is Optimus Prime & Transformers.

But as for the show itself, overall its ok, not as great as Prime, but still better than a few TF series I can think of. I am admittedly excited about season three (which is the first time I've actually been excited for this series), simply because I enjoy all things having to do with combiners. I imagine that there has to be an announcement soon as to when it will start airing.

o.supreme wrote:I imagine that there has to be an announcement soon as to when it will start airing.

The crazy part is that we had an aouncement, which said it was to start in Jan 2017

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... 017/36987/

So much for that.

yeah but hat was supposedly just for Germany, and I don't put much stock in those. If we can look at history... season one first air din the U.S. on 3/14/15, season two on 2/20/16...so we are definitely in that premiere "sweet spot". Of course CN is the king of Cluster Flubs when it comes to jacking with action oriented series, so who knows.

The Grim King wrote:Since Netflix now has season 1 and 2 I'm giving it another shot. Haven't watched an episode since the premier...I think. Is there any particular reason it's worth watching? I'm still having trouble dealing with their portrayal of Grimlock, it hurts me; in my soul.

NOTE: The following will pertain strictly to the Grimlocks of TF animation (minus the RiD 2001 Grimlock). Comics and prose Grimlocks are excluded for this response.

This is a very different kind of Grimlock from what we've usually gotten before. He's still true to the spirit of previous Grimlocks in that he's a big strong T-Rex guy who isn't the brightest but loves to fight and smash things while having a heart of gold, which is basically the core of any traditional take on Grimlock. This time, though, he's much more sociable and outgoing, and most of all younger. This is the first time we've ever really gotten a "rookie" take on Grimlock and had that aspect fully explored and developed. Previously Grimlocks tended to learn things by instinct at first and almost immediately got to a point where the writers were comfortable to keep at without further development (and often any changes from that status quo were later undone to return those Grimlocks back to "normal"). Here, however, we're presented with a Grimlock whose growth is ever-present. A Grimlock who's constantly learning and evolving as a character while still maintaining what makes him who he is. This is probably the deepest and most thorough take on Grimlock we've ever gotten.

What's more is that, despite how this Grimlock upholds the tradition of being less intelligent than the other non-Dinobot Autobots, this show has reassured us time and again that he is anything but stupid. He's not only even acknowledged his lower intellect a few times in the show (saying things to the others like "Just because I'm not as smart as the rest of you guys doesn't mean I'm an idiot!"), but he's even proved several times that he's own special degree of smarts is all he needs to be helpful. For instance, there was the episode that was a dual-homage to the G1 episode "Grimlock's New Brain" and the Prime episode "T.M.I." in which Grimlock temporarily got super-intelligent from a Cybertronian data cylinder (a condition that Grimlock almost immediately recognized as mentally fatal, which then reminded Bumblebee of what happened to Bulkhead in "T.M.I."). By the episode's climax, the Decepticon they were going up against, Simacore, was a super genius and had captured both Bumblebee and Strongarm, leaving Grimlock alone to face him. By this point, though, Grimlock had just gotten cured of his own fatal genius condition (which had by then become a hindrance since he had become compelled to calculate every possible tactic instead of relying on instinct), but a side-effect of the cure left him temporarily immobile, and he still had another genius to contend with. Using his own simpler brainpower to stall for the time needed for his mobility to recover, he challenged Simacore to a quiz of smarts and the very first question that Simacore asked (a rather complicated mathematical word problem) Grimlock gave an acceptable answer to based on his own knowledge of a place Simacore included in the question: The question was basically asking how long a holo-rail train would take to reach one city from another (one of which was Nuon City) under certain specific conditions, but Grimlock remembered that the Decepticon Underbite had previously bragged about having eaten all of Nuon City, so Grimlock's answer was that the question was a trick question because Nuon City no longer has a holo-rail; a line of reasoning that Simacore never considered, but reluctantly conceded as "technically true". And when it was Grimlock's turn to question Simacore, he at first struggled to think of something complex to say, but then his mobility finally returned and he also had an epiphany: He didn't need to ask Simacore a complex question because, with his mobility restored and Simacore awaiting Grimlock's question, Simacore had just then given Grimlock the opening he needed to fight back. Thus, Grimlock asked a rather simplistic question that Simicore chuckled at for its elementary nature, a moment that Grimlock took advantage of to maul through Simacore and reach his captured friends in time to save them from a particle accelerator that would have most assuredly killed them had Grimlock been any second later. Boo-yah!

There's also the episode with Scowl, another Dinobot who Grimlock tries to befriend since Scowl doesn't seem like such a bad guy, but because Scowl was so unhinged, undisciplined, and unwilling to learn restraint as Grimlock had, Grimlock's own since of ethics were put to the test as Scowl initially tempted Grimlock into reverting to his own Decepticon ways of wanton smashing. But while Grimlock gave in at first (since Scowl used a line of reasoning that Grimlock believed made it okay for them to smash the particular thing they were smashing at the time), he later came to his senses and spent the rest of the whole episode trying to stop Scowl from doing whatever he wanted. This led to Scowl feeling that Grimlock betrayed him and their Dinobot nature. Grimlock, in a stark change from most Grimlocks, tried to reason with Scowl, tried to appeal to the friendship that he and Scowl had formed earlier, but Scowl wouldn't listen and the two fought. Eventually, the conflict came to an end at a local spa, where Scowl tried to create as much damage as possible. Grimlock confronted him one last time, Dinobot vs. Dinobot. At the end of their fight, Grimlock seemed to have a change of heart, confessing to Scowl that Scowl's methods of collateral were indeed easier and more fun than Grimlock's own ways as an Autobot... but in that moment, Scowl hesitated and believed Grimlock to be joining him, which gave Grimlock the out he needed to knock Scowl out with a large stone ornament. Before passing out, Scowl heard Grimlock's final say: "Just because somethin's easier and more fun, Scowl, that doesn't make it right." In the end, Grimlock did good, but was saddened to see that he couldn't help Scowl the way Bumblebee and the others had helped him, realizing "you can't help some bot who doesn't wanna be helped." It's moments like this where Grimlock's genuine wisdom and maturity are brought to the surface and applauded.

^Another point of observation, if I might add, in the original Series, Megatron took advantage of Grimlock's arrogance to turn him against Optimus Prime. I think when you take that away, this is what makes RiD15's Grimlock so unique. (Closer to original series season 3 Grimlock, but not quite as goofy) To be sure, the prideful, powerful Grimlock of the original series, TFA, (AoE to a lesser extent...)etc... definitely have their place, but when you take that away, this Grimlock wants to be a team player, WANTS to be liked, which is definitely something new, and can appeal to kids more so than the traditional angry Gromlock.

Also, DINOPILE.

Va'al wrote:Also, DINOPILE.

This makes me want to watch episode 19 because Grimlock wrestling is hilarious. That and it combines two of my favorite things.



BAH GAWD we got a new champion!
(MS paint skillz!)

Oh man, episode 19! That one was AWESOME! A straight up arena brawl between Grimlock and Groundpounder. It was AMAZING!

Grimlock even did the (in)famous Godzilla tall-sliding kick:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, episode 19! That one was AWESOME! A straight up arena brawl between Grimlock and Groundpounder. It was AMAZING!

Grimlock even did the (in)famous Godzilla tall-sliding kick:

and as a favor to my fellow Godzilla fans I was sure to let them know... (2nd from the bottom)

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