Prototype Images - Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Scattershot from Computron Set

oh wow. this is really impressive. I might have to get this set. Honestly, I have been happy with Hasbros versions of the combiners but computron was pretty weak. New paint aps rarely make me want to shell out more money but a re-mold? Effort to make the design stand out? Yes please. I'm thinking I want this.

I like the new chest and new knee pads. LOVE THE NEW GUNS!! That has been my biggest disappointment with CW, non-unique weapons. To me, there are a few things that help sell a bot as being different from another: Head, gun, color scheme and character specific kibble. You can change vehicles, change transformation sequence, add new gimmicks, remove gimmicks. Just give me those things and you can sell it to me as a different character. Hasbro's version hit 3 of those 4 with most of CW, but this UW Scattershot hits all 4. The seekers get an exemption.

I was really happy that UW Cyclonus has a bright orange cannon.

It doesn't look too bad. I don't know much about the Technobots (I'll always associate the name Scattershot with the blue tank from Transformers: Cybertron), but the Unite Warriors set has got my interest. The grey prototype of Computron that we saw a while ago looks better than Superion, so I might try getting this set once its out.

What's to 'prototype'? It's Scattershot CW. I saw four of them in a store just yesterday. The only thing different about the UW version will be the paint job, which they didn't even show here....

DeathReviews wrote:What's to 'prototype'? It's Scattershot CW. I saw four of them in a store just yesterday. The only thing different about the UW version will be the paint job, which they didn't even show here....

Death, I know you are busy, but take a few seconds to look at the chest of both this prototype and the combiner chest. As well as the kneepads.

Man it is getting harder to choose between the UW or the CW version of the technobots, both look great. The Takara has proper head, and Rook as Nosecone but Hasbro has Scrounge and Streetwise as Lightspeed.

Just so people can get a better look at the differences:

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:What's to 'prototype'? It's Scattershot CW. I saw four of them in a store just yesterday. The only thing different about the UW version will be the paint job, which they didn't even show here....

Death, I know you are busy, but take a few seconds to look at the chest of both this prototype and the combiner chest. As well as the kneepads.

...And four new guns (two big and two small), and new Computron head.

I wish they didn't use Hasbro's wings and front end in alt mode, but they made enough additional changes that I'm fine with it.

Emerje

I'm really excited for Takara Tomy's Unite Warriors Computron, though I'm disappointed that Hasbro has been going the easy route, keeping the parts count down, and/or just making a lesser product in general. It was one thing for years when Takara and Hasbro would come out with different paint schemes. It was fun to read people's arguments for or against paint schemes, but these toys with actual mold differences take the differences to a whole new level. The Constructicons and Devastator, Blast Off, Groove, Scattershot and Computron as a whole. This new philosophy is interesting and frustrating at the same time.

scattorshot looks cool. new chest.... new guns that can be used to revive the Minicon Gimmick from Armada.... as a stand a lone figure, id buy it.... but i would not want to fork out $400+ on something that i could spend about $70-80 total at Walmart for all the limbs plus scattorshot in which includes Nebraska taxes

Autobot tap out wrote:scattorshot looks cool. new chest.... new guns that can be used to revive the Minicon Gimmick from Armada.... as a stand a lone figure, id buy it.... but i would not want to fork out $400+ on something that i could spend about $70-80 total at Walmart for all the limbs plus scattorshot in which includes Nebraska taxes

He's not $400 for the Japanese version. He's approximately $135 from US online retailers (BBTS, TFsource) and will be even less expensive from international sources like AmiAmi, HLJ, etc. If I recall correctly, I'm getting Unite Warriors Bruticus for just a little over $100 shipped, which is pretty amazing.

MSRP on Hasbro's version is $26.99 for Scattershot and $17.99 for each of the 4 limbs which is $98.95. If you can get them a little cheaper somewhere, not to mention if you can actually find them all at retail, more power to those of you who can.

And just like that, 5 little remolded parts and a few new guns, and that is a proper Scattershot. Bah, why couldn't the combiner wars version have done that. It looks awesome

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:What's to 'prototype'? It's Scattershot CW. I saw four of them in a store just yesterday. The only thing different about the UW version will be the paint job, which they didn't even show here....

Death, I know you are busy, but take a few seconds to look at the chest of both this prototype and the combiner chest. As well as the kneepads.

...And four new guns (two big and two small), and new Computron head.

I wish they didn't use Hasbro's wings and front end in alt mode, but they made enough additional changes that I'm fine with it.

I agree. As for not mentioning the guns and head before, its because new guns wouldnt need to bring a toy back to prototype stage, unlike new molding. And we had seen the head before yesterday so I wanted to spotlight the least obvious things that death might not have seen.

And yeah, the front of the ship being long and thing kind of bums me out, but I am ok with this being a reinterpretation of G1, and thus a bit sleeker. cant wait to see Strafe, that vehicle looks amazing!

Seibertron wrote:
MSRP on Hasbro's version is $26.99 for Scattershot and $17.99 for each of the 4 limbs which is $98.95. If you can get them a little cheaper somewhere, not to mention if you can actually find them all at retail, more power to those of you who can.

I dont think they will sell the limbs individually though, it will just be that giftset. Comes out to the same price, 99.99$, but you do get 2 additional toys and new feet. So yeah, as you said, its definitely frustrating that there are so many changes between the two. This Computron thing is taking it to unprecedented level. However, I must admit that it will make for THE coolest comparison gallery so far. Think about it, Lightspeed, Strafe and Nosecone are actually totally different toys from one set to the other, making each exclusive to their own market. Thats bonkers.

So yeah, Autobot Tap, turns out that Computron shipped from japan will come out to 100$ USD which is the same amount of money Hasbro's will cost (and you'll be taxed on hasbro's)

Additionally, It was my impression that CW Computron would only be sold as a gift set (ala the G2 sets and Devastator), I have heard no news that the CW Technobot deluxes and/or legends figure would have an individual release.

Still... the differences alone make me have no qualms about owning both the CW and UW versions. I only have to come up with the funds to do so. . however... If the figures were being sold separately I would just get Legends Scrounge and just pair him up with UW Computron.

Additionally... UW-06 Galvatron is supposed to have an *April* release Tomorrow is April 1st. I know the month is 30 days, so we could get anything in the next 4 & 1/2 weeks. But I would think we should see some detailed Grand Galvatron packaging pics soon. Shouldn't we?

o.supreme wrote:Additionally... UW-06 Galvatron is supposed to have an *April* release Tomorrow is April 1st. I know the month is 30 days, so we could get anything in the next 4 & 1/2 weeks. But I would think we should see some detailed Grand Galvatron packaging pics soon. Shouldn't we?

We already got that, here you go

o.supreme wrote:Additionally, It was my impression that CW Computron would only be sold as a gift set (ala the G2 sets and Devastator), I have heard no news that the CW Technobot deluxes and/or legends figure would have an individual release.

Still... the differences alone make me have no qualms about owning both the CW and UW versions. I only have to come up with the funds to do so. . however... If the figures were being sold separately I would just get Legends Scrounge and just pair him up with UW Computron.

Additionally... UW-06 Galvatron is supposed to have an *April* release Tomorrow is April 1st. I know the month is 30 days, so we could get anything in the next 4 & 1/2 weeks. But I would think we should see some detailed Grand Galvatron packaging pics soon. Shouldn't we?

Grand Galvatron is due for release on 4/30/2016.
http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810864769/

I wonder if Hasbro is seeing Takara's Computicon as we are and saying "Well s***." Or maybe they knew about it and didn't care?

Powered Convoy wrote:Grand Galvatron is due for release on 4/30/2016.
http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810864769/

Nice, Thank you. Last day huh? --Well cant fault them for that Still we should be seeing some detailed pics soon.

Also, I was wondering if there was any way that a list of *confirmed* differences between CW & UW Computron could be pinned for easy reference. The perhaps a list of "speculative" changes under that, since we wont know more until we see in full detail all the UW figures individually.

That Bot wrote:I wonder if Hasbro is seeing Takara's Computicon as we are and saying "Well s***." Or maybe they knew about it and didn't care?

They knew about it and didnt care. They had to know about it, both use the exact same Afterburner.

What happened is the same thing that happened with Devastator. They looked at what Takara had in mind and they said it had too many parts/changes and did their own lower cost version. Thats it.

What is fun though is that it proves that mold creation, human labour (design) and all that is far more expensive than plastic. They would much rather include 2 extra toys takara isnt offerring (2 redecos of course) than spend on financing different molds.

I'm NOT trying to bring up the topic of over-used molds of the CW line,
but overall, between CW and UW, I personally think there's a lot of not-to-be-missed stuff.
Other than having to be selective just because I don't want to spend $$$$ on figures,
the combiner teams have been pretty awesome imo.
And as I said in a previous post, we have been waiting most for these updated figures (and combiners) for roughly 10 YEARS.
Now, I have no idea, but I'm going to assume that it will be a while, maybe even a very long while before we see these characters again (especially the Technobots).
When we do see these combiner teams again, you would have to think there would be some sort of improvements to the figures, combining devices, etc.
I don't see this happening any time soon.

One thing I would like to see next time, is combiners where the characters who are the "leg-bots" are just slight larger (taller as a leg) to help with the overall proportions. For me, in combined mode, the arms are too long. I know, small issue. Just my opinion.
If the bot as a leg was an inch(+) taller, for me that would make a substantial difference. Yeah, some people would say "the knee joints are too high on the legs...", and "Now my Brawl can't be an arm without Brut looking like a gorilla".
But this would add some substantial height without ALL 5 figures having to be bigger (which yes, would be nice, but the $$$ constraints would probably never allow for that anyway).
Plus for me, an awesome looking combiner trumps the leg figures not working as arms.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I don't plan on changing any of the combiners' original limb formations.


Sorry to spin-out on a tangent.
For me, UW Computron is one of the not-to-be-missed figures.

My main focus point are the thin thighs on the Superion torso. I made my peace with them long ago, but they stick out like a sore thumb. So now when I see the mold reused, I look at those thighs and instantly think "Silverbolt".

Good job on the re-molding, but I've been done with that torso for ages already

shajaki wrote:My main focus point are the thin thighs on the Superion torso. I made my peace with them long ago, but they stick out like a sore thumb. So now when I see the mold reused, I look at those thighs and instantly think "Silverbolt".

Good job on the re-molding, but I've been done with that torso for ages already

You don't like the best torso the line has to offer? That's unfortunate.

How are you guys getting $100 for this when the current price is $135? Are you using your discounts, or are you using the actual price someone else will have it as when it comes out? Cause if I could get this guy for $100 and free shipping (which I think was mentioned) then I would totally go for it over the Hasbro most likely

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:How are you guys getting $100 for this when the current price is $135? Are you using your discounts, or are you using the actual price someone else will have it as when it comes out? Cause if I could get this guy for $100 and free shipping (which I think was mentioned) then I would totally go for it over the Hasbro most likely

Its not free shipping, its that the toy itself costs 90$. Here is the Bruticus listing on Nippon yassan:

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/15 ... ticus.html

But with shipping, it probably would be more near 120$ than 100$. And thats if you ship it alone, who knows the added discount you,d get from the total cost if you ship things together. it will be a bit cheaper than price before shipping at BBTS. But the point was not that everyone's cost for Takara would be cheaper than hasbro's, it was just that the difference is negligible for all the extra effort takara has put into their version.

If you can get the free shipping by going above 150$ at tfsource, I feel that is the best option of americans, especially those uneasy about buying directly from japan, in case something goes wrong and an item must be returned.

For someone in canada or australia though, theres no question, buying from japan will always be cheaper than buying from BBTS or anywhere else.

If I wasn't already getting two of these sets before all the remolding we've just been shown, then I'd be buying two sets now.

That looks fantastic TakTom.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:How are you guys getting $100 for this when the current price is $135? Are you using your discounts, or are you using the actual price someone else will have it as when it comes out? Cause if I could get this guy for $100 and free shipping (which I think was mentioned) then I would totally go for it over the Hasbro most likely

Its not free shipping, its that the toy itself costs 90$. Here is the Bruticus listing on Nippon yassan:

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/15 ... ticus.html

But with shipping, it probably would be more near 120$ than 100$. And thats if you ship it alone, who knows the added discount you,d get from the total cost if you ship things together. it will be a bit cheaper than price before shipping at BBTS. But the point was not that everyone's cost for Takara would be cheaper than hasbro's, it was just that the difference is negligible for all the extra effort takara has put into their version.

If you can get the free shipping by going above 150$ at tfsource, I feel that is the best option of americans, especially those uneasy about buying directly from japan, in case something goes wrong and an item must be returned.

For someone in canada or australia though, theres no question, buying from japan will always be cheaper than buying from BBTS or anywhere else.

I bought 2 UW Bruticus from Anime Export. I'm at USD $94.30 each before shipping. We'll see what I end up at once shipping is calculated.

Unite Warriors Scattershot looks pretty awesome. The little details put this leaps and bounds ahead of the Hasbro version. However, speaking of the little details, it still bugs me that they left the passenger windows all along the sides of the fuselage from the Silverbolt version of the mold. Is Scattershot supposed to be some kind of futuristic commercial passenger spaceship?

Seibertron wrote:I bought 2 UW Bruticus from Anime Export. I'm at USD $94.30 each before shipping. We'll see what I end up at once shipping is calculated.

Thanks, let us know!

For those wondering, shipping a single UW release from Japan to North America (from amiami) cost 4,195 JPY last year. These are rather big boxes so I get it. The crazy cost difference though comes when shipping MPs. MP shockwave was only 12$ to ship from japan and I think Cobotron paid 7$ for G2 BB.

Sowndwave76 wrote:One thing I would like to see next time, is combiners where the characters who are the "leg-bots" are just slight larger (taller as a leg) to help with the overall proportions. For me, in combined mode, the arms are too long. I know, small issue. Just my opinion.
If the bot as a leg was an inch(+) taller, for me that would make a substantial difference. Yeah, some people would say "the knee joints are too high on the legs...", and "Now my Brawl can't be an arm without Brut looking like a gorilla".
But this would add some substantial height without ALL 5 figures having to be bigger (which yes, would be nice, but the $$$ constraints would probably never allow for that anyway).
Plus for me, an awesome looking combiner trumps the leg figures not working as arms.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I don't plan on changing any of the combiners' original limb formations.

Can't argue with you there. That said:

- Arm-bots and leg-bots really need to be the same size if you want to have full Scramble City interchangeability.
- I think the best solution to your complaint is to get the Perfect Effect hand/foot upgrade kits. They have taller feet and smaller hands, which really seems to improve proportions overall. Plus, unlike Hasbro's, they disassemble into guns for the individual robots, which is the #1 thing I prefer about the Hasbro HFG anyway. (I'd probably buy them if I didn't need five of them.)

Wolfman Jake wrote:Unite Warriors Scattershot looks pretty awesome. The little details put this leaps and bounds ahead of the Hasbro version. However, speaking of the little details, it still bugs me that they left the passenger windows all along the sides of the fuselage from the Silverbolt version of the mold. Is Scattershot supposed to be some kind of futuristic commercial passenger spaceship?

With a BFG in the nose too, right?

Wolfman Jake wrote:Unite Warriors Scattershot looks pretty awesome. The little details put this leaps and bounds ahead of the Hasbro version. However, speaking of the little details, it still bugs me that they left the passenger windows all along the sides of the fuselage from the Silverbolt version of the mold. Is Scattershot supposed to be some kind of futuristic commercial passenger spaceship?

Don't think of them as windows but little power level indicators for his nose cannon. The more of them are glowing, the higher a charge he can shoot. All techy and whatnot.

Insurgent wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Unite Warriors Scattershot looks pretty awesome. The little details put this leaps and bounds ahead of the Hasbro version. However, speaking of the little details, it still bugs me that they left the passenger windows all along the sides of the fuselage from the Silverbolt version of the mold. Is Scattershot supposed to be some kind of futuristic commercial passenger spaceship?

Don't think of them as windows but little power level indicators for his nose cannon. The more of them are glowing, the higher a charge he can shoot. All techy and whatnot.

Do you think something similar for generations Scourge and his tiny windows?


Transformers Generations Scourge Gallery

Actually for scourge I like to think more like there's a little red light that runs across it like the cyclons

Fellow Seibertronians, hot on the heels of the Scattershot prototype we saw earlier today, fellow users Survivefan23 and Autobot N have pointed us in the direction of TFYUKI who has posted pictures of the prototype for the Technobot Afterburner. He seems to feature a new head, weapons and windsheild to look more like his g1 counterpart. Check him out below, and let us know what you think in the comments.

UW Computron is only getting better and better.

I want me some Technobots now

Afterburner looks great in bot mode and I love the new G1-style guns, but alt mode looks silly. He should resemble a two-wheeled car like Chromia. I was hoping for a real canopy, but it's just a strange looking windshield that extends into the seat. Anyone riding that would be pretty uncomfortable leaning into all that metal to reach the handles.

Emerje

Definitely feel like I'm gonna have to get the UW technobots, shame, as I really wanted Scrounge and the new feet and hands, sorry hasbro, ya screwed it up - royally

Sigh........ There's nothing "tech" about these alt modes.

YoungPrime wrote:Sigh........ There's nothing "tech" about these alt modes.

Is there a difference between tech and sci fi? Because so far I am seeing some sci fi, especially with scattershot and strafe.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Definitely feel like I'm gonna have to get the UW technobots, shame, as I really wanted Scrounge and the new feet and hands, sorry hasbro, ya screwed it up - royally

Is it Afterburner that is tipping the scale? He seems to be the one member Hasbro is getting the same way. Though I do wonder if Hasbro will be changing his head as well.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Definitely feel like I'm gonna have to get the UW technobots, shame, as I really wanted Scrounge and the new feet and hands, sorry hasbro, ya screwed it up - royally

Is it Afterburner that is tipping the scale? He seems to be the one member Hasbro is getting the same way. Though I do wonder if Hasbro will be changing his head as well.

Well, there's probably going to be little difference between the afterburners, but the TT computron 'may' have more/better paint apps - a long shot, I know - but the new Scattershot parts, the new combiner head, the new guns, the rook mold, which looks solid (and is based off of a solid figure), over all, it feels like WAY more effort was put into the TT one.

The hasbro one feels slapped together at the last minute; I get the point of the mold re-use was to be safe with the investment, but the line has more than paid for itself already, why couldn't hasbro give us more remolded parts - or wheeljack's figure? I feel like the hands, feet, and Scrounge are their way of saying sorry for being lazy/uninterested in really making him stand out

YoungPrime wrote:Sigh........ There's nothing "tech" about these alt modes.

It's probably going to be the paint job that makes it techy not just the remolded parts.


Lets just wait until we see the painted results before going like "It's shit".

One notable difference between Hasbro's and Takara's Afterburner is that the former will have a translucent green canopy while the latter appears to have a solid opaque canopy and no translucent plastic at all.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I want me some Technobots now

August or October 2016

fenrir72 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I want me some Technobots now

August or October 2016

Sooner. I am impatient. Technobots now please please please

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I want me some Technobots now

August or October 2016

Sooner. I am impatient. Technobots now please please please

lol, you were saying that last October

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I want me some Technobots now

August or October 2016

Sooner. I am impatient. Technobots now please please please

lol, you were saying that last October

And if I don't have technobots by this October there will be hell to pay!

I was happy enough to go with Hasbro's Combaticons, as it was quick and easy and there are plenty of awesome Shapeways kits for Blast-Off and Vortex; and to me, the only Combaticon that actually looked better from Takara was Vortex. The Blast-Off from Takara just didn't do it for me, it's just not what I wanted to see when I think of him.

But this Computron...everything so far points to it being the same kind of choice as Hasbro vs Takara Devastator: one is decent, and the other is perfect. The pricing is for the decent one is decent, and the added value of the perfect one makes it a worthy purchase if you can spare some extra cash. The decent one will fill the needs of those who only want to display Combiners, and the perfect one will have all kinds of bells and whistles for man-children (and lady-girls, mustn't forget political correctness).

Either way...Count me in, Takara!!!

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I want me some Technobots now

August or October 2016

Sooner. I am impatient. Technobots now please please please

lol, you were saying that last October

And if I don't have technobots by this October there will be hell to pay!

So, would this be considered The Hunt for Tech October?

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I want me some Technobots now

August or October 2016

Sooner. I am impatient. Technobots now please please please

lol, you were saying that last October

And if I don't have technobots by this October there will be hell to pay!

So, would this be considered The Hunt for Tech October?