Product Number Found for New Upcoming Transformers Bluestreak Toy
Saturday, May 30th, 2020 9:39PM CDT
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TRA WFC Bluestreak
Hasbro product number: E74635L0
For those wondering, Siege Bluestreak was E8291.
The same site also had the product numbers for the following two listings:
Ironhide and Prowl 2 pack:E74615L0
Alternate Universe Optimus Prime:E74625L0
This was found by fellow Seibertronian JT Prime.
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Quantum Surge wrote:I really don't want this set to be scalped to the max, especially when there's been a frustrating lack of Siege Skywarp but Thundercracker and Starscream are still around.
I think he is still available over Amazon. Got mine shortly after it came out.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 30th, 2020 @ 10:03pm CDT
The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
Posted by Skritz on May 30th, 2020 @ 10:10pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
You know, I could totally see RiD2001 Optimus as a massive retool/shared engineering from Doubledealer, assuming he went from vehicle mode to super mode directly.
Posted by Tuned Agent on May 30th, 2020 @ 10:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.
Posted by Skritz on May 30th, 2020 @ 10:17pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.
Man, it would suck but its bad enough to sound plausible.
Posted by Autobot N on May 30th, 2020 @ 10:20pm CDT
My prediction is that Sleepy Prime was supposed to be the SDCC exclusive that now has to be released online for obvious reasons. Kind of like how the Reflector 3-pack was supposed to be the Hascon 2019 exclusive, but ended up being offered as a regular online exclusive because of Hascon's cancellation.Skritz wrote:Tuned Agent wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.
Man, it would suck but its bad enough to sound plausible.
Posted by Skritz on May 30th, 2020 @ 10:25pm CDT
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 30th, 2020 @ 10:59pm CDT
That one is said to be part of Selects rather than Earthrise proper.Tuned Agent wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.
Though, if it were the case, there is one semi-obscure precedent for a dead G1 Prime being an alternate universe variant:
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Do the email alerts sometimes stop? I haven't had any notifications about this thread today.
Posted by Tuned Agent on May 31st, 2020 @ 12:58am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That one is said to be part of Selects rather than Earthrise proper.Tuned Agent wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.
Though, if it were the case, there is one semi-obscure precedent for a dead G1 Prime being an alternate universe variant:
Ah, that makes more sense.
Just a thought, but what if the alternate universe Prime is an IDW version? It wouldn't stand out on the shelves as significantly different from the standard ER Optimus, but I have a hard time imagining another new leader mold in ER (especially for something non G1), and that would be a lot easier to retool from an existing mold than, say, RID Prime.
Though I guess that's why Shattered Glass Prime makes sense too. Plus it would stand out more. You know what, it's probably Shattered Glass Prime...
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Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 8:27am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2020 @ 8:38am CDT
Skritz wrote:Of course if we do get Fire Convoy, people will bitch he's smaller and not as good as the original and nobody will buy him, sending HasTak (and John Warden) the message that they are correct in that only 1984-85 GEEWUN is what sells.
The problem is no one should be forced to buy an inferior toy, something that they should also be aware of. So it's really a no win - situation. Depending on your point of view of course.
What would work more in their favour is if they launched a more ambitious reissue line that expanded past just the first two years of G1
Posted by sol magnus on May 31st, 2020 @ 8:41am CDT
Skritz wrote:Of course if we do get Fire Convoy, people will bitch he's smaller and not as good as the original and nobody will buy him, sending HasTak (and John Warden) the message that they are correct in that only 1984-85 GEEWUN is what sells.
And via karma, you will deserve it.
However, I would buy Fire Convoy in a heartbeat. My Car Robots collection (which had everything except Brave Maximus - because at the time I had a Fortress Maximus) was sacrificed for my Masterpiece collection and, well...bills.
So, even if it failed and people complained (and they will, no matter what happens), it wouldn't fail because of me.
ZeroWolf wrote:The problem is no one should be forced to buy an inferior toy, something that they should also be aware of. So it's really a no win - situation. Depending on your point of view of course.
What would work more in their favour is if they launched a more ambitious reissue line that expanded past just the first two years of G1
They already did it. In 2001 they did a line called "Robots in Disguise" that had inferior plastic and rubber compared to the Takara releases. I know, because I had them. It's my one collection where I had robot and vehicle modes displayed.
EARTHRISE (so as not to derail) Bluestreak is gonna be lit.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 31st, 2020 @ 8:43am CDT
Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 9:03am CDT
That said, the reason I brought up the whole 'people will bitch and won't buy it' is that the Reissue is so recent that hardcore collectors will most likely default to just getting the reissue since it come with Ultra Magnus. The reissue is from 2018 and still available online. So while me, personally, would not mind just getting a simpler modern figure to fiddle around with, someone who is a much more serious collector has zero reason to not go for the Reissue. That was my point. I've seen the sentiment pop up here when we got Galaxy Convoy: people bitched he was smaller, transformed differently, was a retool of Ultra Magnus and how he had none of the gimmicks and mass. A CHUG Fire Convoy is doomed to the same fate. The only upgrade it might offer could be much better poseability, as that has been the strong suit of recent Generations stuff since Siege. Personally I want/would not mind a CHUG Fire Convoy its just I know how this fanbase reacts, since we have a precedent with Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime.
The problem is simple: when Generations remakes a G1 figure, its always a step up from 1980 engineering. When a figure from the 2000 is remade, its always a downgrade in terms of raw mass of plastic and bulk.
Posted by triKlops on May 31st, 2020 @ 9:35am CDT
Skritz wrote: The problem is simple: when Generations remakes a G1 figure, its always a step up from 1980 engineering. When a figure from the 2000 is remade, its always a downgrade in terms of raw mass of plastic and bulk.
This is a perfect crystallization statement, in my personal opinion, that sets the bar much better for future non-G1 Generations releases. Nice work!
Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 9:37am CDT
Posted by triKlops on May 31st, 2020 @ 9:41am CDT
Skritz wrote:I think a modern remake of the UT stuff could get an edge over the old stuff through the improved articulation, however.
Agreed as well.
Posted by Deadput on May 31st, 2020 @ 10:24am CDT
Any new figures of those specific characters would absolutely be inferior, the only ones that wouldn't be are those who's original toys were pretty eh and brickish like the majority of Armada's figures.
Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 10:42am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on May 31st, 2020 @ 10:53am CDT
Skritz wrote:Well personally I'm a cheap ass who would not mind paying retail price for a modern Fire Convoy because to be honest, I'm not exactly too sold on the electronics and other things which makes the original pricy.
That said, the reason I brought up the whole 'people will bitch and won't buy it' is that the Reissue is so recent that hardcore collectors will most likely default to just getting the reissue since it come with Ultra Magnus. The reissue is from 2018 and still available online. So while me, personally, would not mind just getting a simpler modern figure to fiddle around with, someone who is a much more serious collector has zero reason to not go for the Reissue. That was my point. I've seen the sentiment pop up here when we got Galaxy Convoy: people bitched he was smaller, transformed differently, was a retool of Ultra Magnus and how he had none of the gimmicks and mass. A CHUG Fire Convoy is doomed to the same fate. The only upgrade it might offer could be much better poseability, as that has been the strong suit of recent Generations stuff since Siege. Personally I want/would not mind a CHUG Fire Convoy its just I know how this fanbase reacts, since we have a precedent with Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime.
The problem is simple: when Generations remakes a G1 figure, its always a step up from 1980 engineering. When a figure from the 2000 is remade, its always a downgrade in terms of raw mass of plastic and bulk.
I broke down and bought a Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, but that's because I'm a junkie.
I think part of the problem with making modern Armada era guys that will meet the fans of that era's expectations is the budgets and increase in plastics cost that occurred in the late 2000s and continues into this day. It's why we have to get these truncated accessories with WFC figures that we didn't have in earlier Generations years (CHUG Wheeljack vs. Earthrise Wheeljack for example).
I've beat this drum before, but I have zero problem with them integrating Unicron Trilogy characters into "G1" or Neo-G1 or whatever we're calling it. If it's cool, I will probably get it. I actually regret selling my Generations Hot Shot. I might just get another one. Really liked that figure, and I only know him from the PS2 game because I didn't watch the show. I didn't get the Starscream they did a few years back because I wasn't collecting CHUG then, but I thought it was a cool idea.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 31st, 2020 @ 10:55am CDT
Skritz wrote:Now its just me, but I'd personally like to get some RiD2001 or UT designs and characters on a modern budget. Yeah its not gonna be as big but at least its going to 'handle' fairly well and generally be fairly solid for posing and messing around with it. Some of these are quite the brick compared to Siege and ER where nearly every figure has all the important articulation points, including waist and even ankle pivot. There's nothing wrong with getting 'Armada with Knees' when we get 'G1 with knees'.
Wouldn't mind seeing modern versions of these two, for example.
Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 11:03am CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 31st, 2020 @ 11:16am CDT
In terms of fitting into Neo-G1, Armada and RID2001 work the best because they're not major departures from previous designs compared to Bayverse and Animated. And with the weaponizer and Micromaster gimmicks, I think now would be a good time to at least test the waters by maybe redoing Armada Jetfire, Overload, and Prime. Overload could be done as a mainline Voyager, maybe Leader for parts count, with a G1-styled Overload Micromaster that can be armored up with the trailer into Armada Overload, Jetfire could be a Voyager "Earth Mode" version, with Super Mode Prime being the Alternate Universe listing.
I think it'd be interesting, especially since I think kids might be interested in those three since Overload would basically be a weapons platform that transforms and could be combined with other figures like the weaponizers from Siege, Jetfire turns into a shuttle, and Prime would have a Super Mode, and be able to combine with the other two.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 31st, 2020 @ 11:20am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2020 @ 11:20am CDT
sol magnus wrote:Skritz wrote:Of course if we do get Fire Convoy, people will bitch he's smaller and not as good as the original and nobody will buy him, sending HasTak (and John Warden) the message that they are correct in that only 1984-85 GEEWUN is what sells.
And via karma, you will deserve it.
However, I would buy Fire Convoy in a heartbeat. My Car Robots collection (which had everything except Brave Maximus - because at the time I had a Fortress Maximus) was sacrificed for my Masterpiece collection and, well...bills.
So, even if it failed and people complained (and they will, no matter what happens), it wouldn't fail because of me.ZeroWolf wrote:The problem is no one should be forced to buy an inferior toy, something that they should also be aware of. So it's really a no win - situation. Depending on your point of view of course.
What would work more in their favour is if they launched a more ambitious reissue line that expanded past just the first two years of G1
They already did it. In 2001 they did a line called "Robots in Disguise" that had inferior plastic and rubber compared to the Takara releases. I know, because I had them. It's my one collection where I had robot and vehicle modes displayed.
EARTHRISE (so as not to derail) Bluestreak is gonna be lit.
If they already did it then they can do it again but cover all of TF history (obviously only with the ones they still have the molds to) so they can reissue toys from Animated, Cybertron, Universe 2.0 etc etc
As for Earthrise, I meant to ask, what is this leaked photo people are talking about?
Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 11:22am CDT
So yeah, why not have a neo-Armada line next? Micromasters are doing fine for Hasbro right now so Mini Con seem a logical evolution of the current Micromaster and Battlemaster gimmickry, no?
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2020 @ 11:32am CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 31st, 2020 @ 11:54am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:If Takara ever complete that Armada Prime figure, I'd suspect they will tackle Jetfire and Overload. In fact that could be why we haven't had it yet, if Takara is still unsure of the project, then hasbro might not want to move on it.
Yeah, in light of both the potp god bomber prime and rotf devastator, they may have decided to design them all together so that the potential combined mode isn't a disaster of top-heaviness on the joints (more how devs was designed with the body being made last to see what it had to hold up as opposed to how godbomber tried to fix things that couldn't be fixed);
I think there's a big market for generations ut figures, but I don't think a lot of people are going to be willing to pay TT prices for an entire line of them if hasbro chooses not to play ball
Posted by Rodimus Knight on May 31st, 2020 @ 12:08pm CDT
But Seriously, I'm really excited about this figure.
Posted by aronjlove on May 31st, 2020 @ 2:06pm CDT
@Smokingray7775 on Twitter just shared some pics of the ER two-pack Seeker figures compared to their Siege counterparts. There are a few more comparison pics as well, with other, older molds.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 31st, 2020 @ 2:08pm CDT
The Tetrajets appear taller? That's interesting.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 31st, 2020 @ 2:10pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 2:19pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 31st, 2020 @ 2:30pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on May 31st, 2020 @ 2:46pm CDT
Nice. He's the only ER figure I've got so far, and he's pretty great.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I finally got Ironworks.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on May 31st, 2020 @ 3:33pm CDT
Also I absolutely agree with Skritz, the combination of Micromasters & Battlemasters as Mini-Con stand-ins (We almost got Astroscope updated AS a Micromaster with Sky Lynx even!) and Weaponizers/Modulators working in a very Powerlinx-like fashion make this the perfect time to do more UT references/updates and I will continue to be disappointed by the lack thereof every time it gets brought up. Galaxy Upgrade OP and Hot Shot are great, but 2 figures is pretty minuscule compared to the entire rest of the line being G1.
Posted by Skritz on May 31st, 2020 @ 3:41pm CDT
Powerlinx might be doable today better than it was during Energon, for example. Possibly using a Combiner Wars-esque peg (but bigger) to join the two halves at the waist. All those 'magic mushrooms' and characters who combine could be redone as Weaponizers, if partsforming even more is what it take to make them less compromised.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 31st, 2020 @ 3:44pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 31st, 2020 @ 3:49pm CDT
To me the robot modes of the Siege figures look better, but I want the ER figures for the jet modes. I wasn't planning on getting both, but now I might have to keep the Siege figures after picking up the ER jets.aronjlove wrote:
@Smokingray7775 on Twitter just shared some pics of the ER two-pack Seeker figures compared to their Siege counterparts. There are a few more comparison pics as well, with other, older molds.
Posted by william-james88 on May 31st, 2020 @ 4:02pm CDT
These toys will be coming to the US as Target exclusives, though we do not have preorders yet.