New Video Reviews of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Wave 2 Micromasters and Cassettes

As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more. Big Shot however is missing his turret and Erector is missing a trailer (apparantly) but they were £1 for all three.

Also RE: Partsformers. Same Toy Haul I also bought a white jet, that kind of Transformed into a Robot Body and an upside down monster..thing. Yes, I found out later I owned a Head-less Snapdragon. So I would define a Partsformer as being incomplete in either mode (or both) without a key component. A gun or hand isn't really as applicable as a limb, torso or head.

It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Lore Keeper wrote:I noticed a lot of the posts keeping track of how many leaders we get in each line downplaying retools in the count. There's nothing wrong with a retool if it's done well. I absolutely count them toward the total count of leader class figures in a toyline. Without retools, we wouldn't have the amazing Sky Shadow or Nemesis Prime.

O, this has nothing to do with the quality of any given retool, more like the convenience of having one. Redecos and retools can be considered an "easy way" to make a new release given they already have a basis from which to work with. Furthermore, nowadays retools are "built-in" via alternate molds or gang-molded parts; just switch them out and presto. In a sense, they're two figures in one set of toolings.
It's more of a count of how many unique toolings Hasbro is able to produce, rather than how many figures are released, as that has remained stable over the past few years (2 to 3 per year). I will say that the volume of the toolings have increased somewhat with the co-tools included, and the total of figures could be high if time and opportunity allow.

TR Ravage was heavily criticized for it's shape.

On the note of the Cassette cons, are we certain there will be no more Micromasters being released in the mainline?

mordhelm wrote:TR Ravage was heavily criticized for it's shape.

On the note of the Cassette cons, are we certain there will be no more Micromasters being released in the mainline?

We have 2 more Patrols coming up: a "Road Patrol" (your guess is as good as mine) and the Decepticon Sports Car Patrol. Totally expecting Blackjack out of Swindler.

jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

All of the criticisms about TR Ravage were given way back in 2016. We're in 2019 now, we've long since moved on to harping on more recent figures.

william-james88 wrote:

jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’m someone who tries to find something good in every toy and was thinking back on a TR figure that was the least appealing. Sadly it’s Ravage to me. I got him, changed him once and put him in one of my junk tubs that I keep CW hands and guns in. I really have a hard time with that one.

Like most of Siege, I am passing on Soundwave. But I think I am actually gonna get the cassettes for my mib collection.

william-james88 wrote:

jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown.

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown.

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

One of the reasons I love energon/alternators battle ravage as a character, and bw tm ravage

Energon Battle Ravage is a fantastic toy

I do hold out hope for MP Beast Wars Ravage someday. A fully formed Bot, that turns into a Slab

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown.

And I was right there with you, those stupid hips

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown.

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

The Classics Ravage figure does a pretty gpod job pf being lran, but the trade off is that wierdly arched back.

Flashwave wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown.

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

The Classics Ravage figure does a pretty gpod job pf being lran

Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

I actually hate Twinferno and Minewipe more, I think TR Ravage is pretty good.

Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN.

I suspect we'll see Prime soon enough, there's a toy fair in February afterall

Skritz wrote:Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN.

It's not that, and really, when has Hasbro let our supposed shopping habits influence them that much?

No, each Size Class has its own release dates for waves, and Leaders happen to come a tad later than the rest. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Cybertron-inspired Prime is closer to Wave 3 rather than Wave 2.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Skritz wrote:Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN.

It's not that, and really, when has Hasbro let our supposed shopping habits influence them that much?

No, each Size Class has its own release dates for waves, and Leaders happen to come a tad later than the rest. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Cybertron-inspired Prime is closer to Wave 3 rather than Wave 2.

I'm hoping that Hasbro learned their lesson with the fiasco that was Optimal Optimus' distributions and decided to make the three leaders dispersed throughout Siege's run. So wave 1 is Magnus and Shockwave, wave 2 is Shockwave and Prime, and wave 3 is Magnus and Prime. Each figure gets two waves so that they can be found easier. But, this is Hasbro after all, so they probably didn't learn

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Skritz wrote:Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN.

It's not that, and really, when has Hasbro let our supposed shopping habits influence them that much?

No, each Size Class has its own release dates for waves, and Leaders happen to come a tad later than the rest. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Cybertron-inspired Prime is closer to Wave 3 rather than Wave 2.

I'm hoping that Hasbro learned their lesson with the fiasco that was Optimal Optimus' distributions and decided to make the three leaders dispersed throughout Siege's run. So wave 1 is Magnus and Shockwave, wave 2 is Shockwave and Prime, and wave 3 is Magnus and Prime. Each figure gets two waves so that they can be found easier. But, this is Hasbro after all, so they probably didn't learn

I dunno what happened, but I saw every figure released last year at least 2-4 times at actual stores, combine that along with the amount of time some figures actually spent as 'in stock' online, and I'd say we had a great year (for example there were whole days where optimal was in stock on hts)

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.

Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer! How could you not know you had him?!

Rodimus Prime wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.

Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer! How could you not know you had him?!

His name is equally (in)famous in the fandom, too.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.

Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer!

No he's not. He lost that year to Waspinator.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.

Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer!

No he's not. He lost that year to Waspinator.

Oh... I thought he was the fan vote that year. And I even went to BotCon that year! Okay, never mind.

Siege finally hit the Wal-mart by me!...

And sadly, they only had the deluxes I already got and the voyagers I do not want. No Shockwave, Micromasters, or Battlemasters. Shoot.

On a plus side, Stakeout looks great! Cannot wait to get him to my Wreckers shelf!

All this talk about how bad TR and Siege Ravage are makes Generations Ravage very happy that everyone forgot how terrible he was.



Emerje

Emerje wrote:All this talk about how bad TR and Siege Ravage are makes Generations Ravage very happy that everyone forgot how terrible he was.



Emerje

I recently got FOC Blaster and I gotta say, I actually really like that mold. It's weird, and not quite right, but I like it for some reason. Maybe cause it takes the idea of cassettes and twists it a bit. I'm looking forward to conparing Steeljaw and Ravage from Siege to each other

Possible leak of leader Prime.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUChzc ... /community

Emerje wrote:All this talk about how bad TR and Siege Ravage are makes Generations Ravage very happy that everyone forgot how terrible he was.

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Emerje

Seems like CHUG Ravage just can't catch a break

Jtprime17 wrote:Possible leak of leader Prime.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUChzc ... /community

Oh my.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Jtprime17 wrote:Possible leak of leader Prime.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUChzc ... /community

Oh my.

I am feelin' that, this looks amazing

Jtprime17 wrote:Possible leak of leader Prime.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUChzc ... /community

Yeah, saw this a couple hours ago, I notified the news team

Apparently TFW2005 found it first

Jtprime17 wrote:Possible leak of leader Prime.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUChzc ... /community

Now we're talking.

My god...

Holy crap that looks great! He's an instant buy

Jtprime17 wrote:My god...

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*Cybertron theme starts playing

This looks great, I really like it. I wonder if this is going to have all the features his original toy did, because that's what Warden(or someone else) said he'd do to figures in the line. Excited nonetheless

Following notification from several Seibertron.com members, theoriginalzero on Twitter has posted an image that appears to be the first look at Leader Class Cybertron Optimus Prime from the Generations War for Cybertron: Siege lineup. This Leader Class figure appears to utilize a similar "inner" robot to Ultra Magnus, and comes with the appropriate armor pieces to utilize an upgraded form straight from 2006:


While this is not a confirmed release from Hasbro, it looks pretty certain given this and some of the vestigial parts on Voyager Class Optimus Prime and Leader Class Ultra Magnus that this latest Siege Leader Class figure will help you find the Cyber Planet Keys before the Decepticons can use them for evil! Reminisce on your adventures with Optimus Prime, Hot Shot, Landmine, Jetfire, Scattorshot, Vector Prime and more by checking out our comprehensive Transformers: Cybertron toy galleries.


Stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all the latest information on War for Cybertron: Siege reveals as it becomes available.

Awesome, just really cool. No point in getting a 3rd party Masterpiece version, cuz this looks like it will have all the articulation and features that a Masterpiece-esque version would have.

Looks cool. I love the UT, Cybertron most of all, and it is time they got some more love, Armada had a few CHUG figures, Energon Prime got a homage with Combiner wars prime, along with Ginari, and it's time for cybertron to have it's revival.

I don't even like Transformers: Cybertron, but this figure looks like a lot of fun. This is probably the most unique Optimus Prime figure we'll be getting this year. I really wan it, but weather or not I need it is another story. It's tough because I really want to get into the Siege, but I also am a huge collector of the Studio Series and these toys ain't cheap. I guess I'll have to just wait and see.

t's just occurred to me, we've had 2 prime leaks, when're we gonna see Omega? we saw the unpainted tank prototype back in October i think, but when are we gonna see the full figure. For that matter when is the next major convention? I'm guessing that's when figures like this and SS-38 (is that right, the Bumblebee Optimus) will be officially revealed by HasTak.

I still have my original Cybertron Optimus, which already was and still is a great figure, so I don't know if I really feel compelled to get this one or not.

Kapowtoys now shipping siege leader class shockwave and Ultra Magnus.

On a facebook page they leaked the back of the package

Stryker P28 wrote:On a facebook page they leaked the back of the package

That was already posted here.

oh.sorry my bad

This is an older picture from a very old phone camera, so I should take another later - anyways, I'd love to see a Leobreaker in this lineup that is closer to the initial sketches for the character. Source of this is the Galaxy Force Phase Ignition book.