New Video Review of Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Wave 2 Deluxe Prowl

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone else notice the lack of battle damage paint?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone else notice the lack of battle damage paint?

Now that you mention it, Chromia has none either.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone else notice the lack of battle damage paint?

Now that you mention it, Chromia has none either.

I wouldn't say that for certain, given the amount of people who were convinced Skytread/Flywheels and Cog didn't have any battle damage. It could easily be there but very lightly applied or hard to see, or just not show up easily on camera due to color or placement. My Cog has battle damage on his inner calves, for example.

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.

Small for a leader class? Small for 50$? Or too small an Ultra Magnus to scale with voyager Prime?

All of the above.
Look, I get it, I'm in the minority on this. I really kinda hate this line, but most of you love it, and that's awesome, it really is.
I don't want to be that guy hating on what others like, so I'm going to stay out of here until I I get my hands on Starscream.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Bear in mind, the Chromia and Prowl in these vids are almost certainly stolen samples that may not have been 100% finished (I assume the battle damage is a finishing touch), and the ones we see at retail could actually have battle damage.

william-james88 wrote:We already know the entire content for Siege when it comes to wide releases for deluxe, voyager and leader:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... res/42353/

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Bear in mind, the Chromia and Prowl in these vids are almost certainly stolen samples that may not have been 100% finished (I assume the battle damage is a finishing touch), and the ones we see at retail could actually have battle damage.

The SDCC samples had no battle damage either.

Ultra Markus wrote:the way he transforms is reminiscent of the g1 toy
i certainly hope we get silver bluestreak and smokescrean too

Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.

Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.

Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?

Him too, but Straxus for sure. He was larger (both taller and bulkier), despite T-wing being a Pretender. And that's another gimmick that could be updated in the upcoming lines, the Pretenders. With today's engineering technology, it certainly can be done.

Emerje wrote:I would be super excited for a new Jhiaxus figure. And a proper one this time, not another orange repaint of another figure.

Emerje

DeathReviews wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:hmmm...
SKYTREAD
the gun mount in tank mode is too tight and aims down.
or did i do something wrong?

Take any of the Pretender Prime Master figures (that become guns) and plug it into the hole for the central tank cannon. Not only will they fit perfectly, but the rotating peg on the pretender armor means you can tilt the cannon up and down! Pure win...

Emerje wrote:That's 14 figures to PotPs 13 Deluxe so it isn't likely there'll be another Deluxe in this line. We might actually get two figures in wave 4 this time, can't picture them doing five in wave 3. Probably Barricade and Red Alert since they're repaints.

o.supreme wrote:

Emerje wrote:That's 14 figures to PotPs 13 Deluxe so it isn't likely there'll be another Deluxe in this line. We might actually get two figures in wave 4 this time, can't picture them doing five in wave 3. Probably Barricade and Red Alert since they're repaints.

A couple things... the number of *13* PotP deluxes is only the most basic general release number for the United States, other deluxes which were specific retailer exclusives for the US, were regular releases in other countries. Also, do we know for sure that Mirage & Impactor will be standard regular releases? I thought because of the fan poll, they would be an exclusive two-pack or something...???

Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.

Emerje wrote:I would be super excited for a new Jhiaxus figure. And a proper one this time, not another orange repaint of another figure.

Emerje

Sentinel_Primal wrote:It was confirmed that they'd be the standard single releases

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Bear in mind, the Chromia and Prowl in these vids are almost certainly stolen samples that may not have been 100% finished (I assume the battle damage is a finishing touch), and the ones we see at retail could actually have battle damage.

The SDCC samples had no battle damage either.

william-james88 wrote:2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message boards. This is of course only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I picked up Siege Megatron yesterday, and he's missing one of the little gray wheels under his treads. Doesn't matter to me, I'm taking them off anyway, but I don't recall a QC issue like this on a Hasbro toy... pretty much ever. Hm.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.

o.supreme wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.

...and the Joker got away... Hey!

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message boards. This is of course only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.

I actually believe Hasbro may be pulling back on the leader class overall for retail releases.
For regular retail releases:
Combiner Wars was 6 Leaders across 3 molds for a 18 month line. And the result was Skywarp shelfwarming pretty bad.
Titans Return was 6 leaders across 4-5 molds for an 18 month line, depending on how you count Sky Shadow/Overlord. And the result was Overlord at heavy Discount for those lucky enough to have an Ollie's.
PotP was 4 leaders across 3 molds for a 12 month line. And the result was Optimus Primal, the fan vote, not really hitting retail until it was almost time for clearance.

What I'm seeing is that apparently Leader class figures just don't move as well in general at regular release. As a parent, this actually makes all the sense in the world to me. I'm not dropping $50 on a toy for one of my kids unless I know they are way into it, have a collection, etc. And even then a $50 toy would almost certainly be reserved for birthday/Christmas, or if they saved up their own money. That would mean that the main buyer for leader class would generally be a collector (adult or kid) as opposed to a casual fan/parent where dropping $20 on a smaller figure would make more sense.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:2. It really looks like there will only be 3 leaders in Siege. I read that suppliers did confirm that on other message boards. This is of course only relating to mainline non exclusive toys.

I actually believe Hasbro may be pulling back on the leader class overall for retail releases.
For regular retail releases:
Combiner Wars was 6 Leaders across 3 molds for a 18 month line. And the result was Skywarp shelfwarming pretty bad.
Titans Return was 6 leaders across 4-5 molds for an 18 month line, depending on how you count Sky Shadow/Overlord. And the result was Overlord at heavy Discount for those lucky enough to have an Ollie's.
PotP was 4 leaders across 3 molds for a 12 month line. And the result was Optimus Primal, the fan vote, not really hitting retail until it was almost time for clearance.

What I'm seeing is that apparently Leader class figures just don't move as well in general at regular release. As a parent, this actually makes all the sense in the world to me. I'm not dropping $50 on a toy for one of my kids unless I know they are way into it, have a collection, etc. And even then a $50 toy would almost certainly be reserved for birthday/Christmas, or if they saved up their own money. That would mean that the main buyer for leader class would generally be a collector (adult or kid) as opposed to a casual fan/parent where dropping $20 on a smaller figure would make more sense.

Flashwave wrote:I agree with most of what you are saying, Hasbro pulling back, Retailers not as interested in big ticket TFs, but I wouldnt be as quick to count Overlord and Primal, simply because they were something of a victim of circumstance. For Overlord, the Ollie's Stock came from TRU, and there were quite a few Sky Shadows in that mix as well. (Sadly, I never got one...) Primal cpuld be the Retailers not ordering stock or it could be Hasbro was late getting him out, but either way I am still more inclined to blame Distribution thsn lack of interest. Although to be fair, Optimal Optimus did not have thr fandom jumping up and down like Prime and Rodimus did.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I would love it if the other lines in the Trilogy gave us some figures for seldom-represented characters from G1, since John Warden is so focused on that era. Straxus and Thunderwing come to mind immediately, with at least Straxus being leader class. I know it's an impossible wish, but one can dream.

Straxus as Leader-class and not Thunderwing?

Him too, but Straxus for sure. He was larger (both taller and bulkier), despite T-wing being a Pretender. And that's another gimmick that could be updated in the upcoming lines, the Pretenders. With today's engineering technology, it certainly can be done.

o.supreme wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My Titans Return Megatron was missing a wheel.

...and the Joker got away... Hey!

o.supreme wrote:A couple things... the number of *13* PotP deluxes is only the most basic general release number for the United States, other deluxes which were specific retailer exclusives for the US, were regular releases in other countries.

carytheone wrote:So I swung by a local Target on my way home today and the Siege truly has begun!

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Something did seem off though

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
To my knowledge Straxus was only ever between the Seekers and the Insecticons in size. Where was he bigger?

carytheone wrote:So I swung by a local Target on my way home today and the Siege truly has begun!

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Something did seem off though

william-james88 wrote:Looks voyager class to me

carytheone wrote:So I swung by a local Target on my way home today and the Siege truly has begun!

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Something did seem off though

carytheone wrote:

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Something did seem off though