New Up Close Product Images of Transformers Siege Astrotrain, Crosshairs, Spinister
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Astrotrain's product description from Entertainment Earth:
"Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the Autobot and Decepticon battle to control Cybertron. The Decepticon resistance army and the Autobot counter-resistance fighters gear up with the C.O.M.B.A.T. (Cybertronian Omnifuctional Modular Battlefield Assault Tech) System, the universe's most advanced modular weaponry -- including the Decepticon menace Astrotrain. The big Leader-class figure comes with 2x JF-50 Ionic Displacer Blasters, JF-30 Astro Blaster, W-15 Destabilizer Cannon, and a W-40 Turbo-Core Derailer. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes."
Spinister's product description from Entertainment Earth:
"Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the Autobot and Decepticon battle to control Cybertron. The Decepticon resistance army and the Autobot counter-resistance fighters gear up with the C.O.M.B.A.T. (Cybertronian Omnifuctional Modular Battlefield Assault Tech) System, the universe's most advanced modular weaponry -- including the Decepticon menace Spinister. The Deluxe figure comes with a NFM Dual-Fusion Cannon and Spin-Blast Particle Beam Cannon. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes."
Crosshairs product description from Entertainment Earth:
"Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the Autobot and Decepticon battle to control Cybertron. The Decepticon resistance army and the Autobot counter-resistance fighters gear up with the C.O.M.B.A.T. (Cybertronian Omnifuctional Modular Battlefield Assault Tech) System, the universe's most advanced modular weaponry -- including the Autobot soldier Crosshairs. The Deluxe figure comes with a W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes."
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 24th, 2019 @ 1:50pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 24th, 2019 @ 1:57pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images
For some reason, I'm turned off by the lack of a Targetmaster. I guess he could always roll with one of the existing...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 24th, 2019 @ 2:00pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images
For some reason, I'm turned off by the lack of a Targetmaster. I guess he could always roll with one of the existing...
... or wait for one to be released like with Spinister's Singe and Shrute. Trenchfoot is a pretty close match to Pinpointer, in fact.
Posted by sol magnus on August 24th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images
For some reason, I'm turned off by the lack of a Targetmaster. I guess he could always roll with one of the existing...
... or wait for one to be released like with Spinister's Singe and Shrute. Trenchfoot is a pretty close match to Pinpointer, in fact.
Yeah, I keep waffling on whether I want to get that pack. G2 Sideswipe is cool and all that, but he has to be a different character on my shelf.
Posted by Cyberpath on August 24th, 2019 @ 2:18pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 24th, 2019 @ 2:25pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 24th, 2019 @ 2:30pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:The one packed with Legends Windblade would be ideal, but I never got them so I'll simply give him Blurr's Targetmaster from Legends Twinferno/Doublecross.
I don't have a Windblade, and probably want one, but I still think 60+ for essentially a Pinpointer is a bit much. Much more likely to get the Firestormers.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 24th, 2019 @ 2:34pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images
For some reason, I'm turned off by the lack of a Targetmaster. I guess he could always roll with one of the existing...
... or wait for one to be released like with Spinister's Singe and Shrute. Trenchfoot is a pretty close match to Pinpointer, in fact.
Yeah, I keep waffling on whether I want to get that pack. G2 Sideswipe is cool and all that, but he has to be a different character on my shelf.
Trenchfoot will become Pinpointer for me eventually. I think that is who he was intended to be
Posted by Inactive_____ on August 24th, 2019 @ 2:59pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 24th, 2019 @ 3:06pm CDT
Gemstonegemini wrote:Hm, Astrotrain looks cool. I find it a little bit wierd though that his extras left over from his train mode just becomes... A box. Hopefully there's some way to integrate it a bit better. That said, he's cool for those that want him.
Correction, they become a massive weapon, some new shoes and a fancy backpack
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 24th, 2019 @ 3:32pm CDT
And Firedrive works with Ricochet
Posted by Inactive_____ on August 24th, 2019 @ 3:58pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Gemstonegemini wrote:Hm, Astrotrain looks cool. I find it a little bit wierd though that his extras left over from his train mode just becomes... A box. Hopefully there's some way to integrate it a bit better. That said, he's cool for those that want him.
Correction, they become a massive weapon, some new shoes and a fancy backpack
No matter what, his shoes will never be as snazzy as TR Astrotrain's.
Posted by Inactive_____ on August 24th, 2019 @ 4:28pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 24th, 2019 @ 4:42pm CDT
Gemstonegemini wrote:Welp, I really need to stop double posting But, I really like Fire drive with Ricochet.
I do too, and he will make a pretty decent combined mode gun too
Posted by Cheetron on August 24th, 2019 @ 6:55pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 24th, 2019 @ 7:10pm CDT
Cheetron wrote:Crosshair is an instant mine! Spinster I was all excited for. Cool dude, cool guns, cool alt mode. But then I saw the tail rotor behind his head in robot mode. No matter how I try, I cannot unsee that. Pass
But the tail rotor behind his head has been part of almost all of his designs
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 24th, 2019 @ 7:37pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 24th, 2019 @ 7:49pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images
I thought the same. Someone really had fun with posing him for these pics.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 24th, 2019 @ 8:15pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:This big leader size figure (with shoes on) is as big as a deluxe sized spinnister...yay? The price points for the so called leader figures suck so I'll definitely be sticking with TR astro train.
It's all mass, not height. Besides, Astrotrain's is measured from the top of his head, while Spinister's is measured from the top of rotor, well above his head. The former is bulkier too, but could still be considered a Voyager with add-ons.
Posted by Microbot on August 24th, 2019 @ 8:59pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 24th, 2019 @ 9:28pm CDT
Microbot wrote:Uff... I was hoping Astrotrain was a little high than Spinster and a simply voyager...so will be like Shockwave...a too much high price for...
Siege is about scale. Astrotrain is not bigger than megatron so anyone hoping for a larger base figure was setting themselves up for dissapointment. Plus, I dont want my astrotrain leader sized, it makes no sense. If you don't like the approach you can always wait for a sale (as I will) or not buy it.
Posted by Stargrave on August 24th, 2019 @ 9:57pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:36am CDT
Posted by transformers_va on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:47am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:49am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on August 25th, 2019 @ 7:09am CDT
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:50am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 25th, 2019 @ 8:57am CDT
Either way the odd bot out is going to get a faction symbol put on him, unlike ultra magnus that has no smooth spaces for where he should have a faction symbol.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:00am CDT
It's not just that the Wreckers symbol is blue, but that it has a hammer inside it.blackeyedprime wrote:if wreckers have blue autobot faction symbols...what are white decepticon faction symbols
Posted by Ironhidensh on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by frogbat on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:19am CDT
BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!
Good spot... however, went to check the g1 toy pix and they are indeed apeing the original g1 sticker... the first r is slanted, the last isn’t.
Re astrotrain.. would’ve loved a larger figure to go toe to toe with jetfire, though the original robot scale means he should be a voyager... I enjoyed every iteration of astrotrain so far... will enjoy this one too. And yes, the cybertronian flip flops are weird,
Posted by william-james88 on August 25th, 2019 @ 9:42am CDT
BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!
Not a design error, thats 100% G1 accurate.
Posted by joevill on August 25th, 2019 @ 10:46am CDT
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:38pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!
Not a design error, thats 100% G1 accurate.
A G1 accurate design error!
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 25th, 2019 @ 12:41pm CDT
Wireless_Phantom wrote:william-james88 wrote:BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!
Not a design error, thats 100% G1 accurate.
A G1 accurate design error!
What are you talking about, it's stylistically designed to be that way
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 25th, 2019 @ 1:18pm CDT
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on August 25th, 2019 @ 6:21pm CDT
Wireless_Phantom wrote:A G1 accurate design error!
Yeah, you guys are right, the toy is actually like that! I was getting it confused with Reflector's appearance in the Megatron Killing Joke homage cover from the All Hail Megatron series, where the other "R" is slanted
Posted by Stargrave on August 25th, 2019 @ 7:33pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on August 26th, 2019 @ 1:19am CDT
Cause I saw that Apeface looks to have a faceplate for beast mode, but I can't tell if it covers bot mode's face, or does something similar to the leader classes from TR where it was just a helmet to improve the look
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 26th, 2019 @ 9:19am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 26th, 2019 @ 9:39am CDT
Posted by emlit on August 26th, 2019 @ 12:52pm CDT
vs.
Posted by Stargrave on August 26th, 2019 @ 1:16pm CDT
But if you first saw this character in the cartoon and that’s what you really like then Siege is like spot on. Holds three Titan/Primemasters, guns galore, blast effects that are crazy versatile with the rest of the line.
You could also boil it down to one face mask has horns one doesn’t
Posted by sol magnus on August 26th, 2019 @ 1:51pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 26th, 2019 @ 1:57pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 26th, 2019 @ 1:58pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Normally I'm all about animated series accuracy over anything else. Jetfire is my one exception, because I love the original Macross Valkyrie model so much. However... all that being said, I think Siege Jetfire is brilliant! I never thought we'd see an animation accurate Skyfire, yet here we are. This toy is amazing, and I am so glad to have it.
If I want a Valkyrie, I get a Valkyrie. I don't need Jetfire to be an actual Valkyrie. It was weird even back in 1985.
Posted by o.supreme on August 26th, 2019 @ 2:02pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on August 26th, 2019 @ 2:30pm CDT
I'll agree with what some have said here that the alt mode leaves a few things to be desired, it's not enough to trump the things that make him a good fun toy to play with. He's packed with neat little features. Like all the spring loaded panels and ports, and those awesome retractable hand ports. Little details that make him good. And his construction is better than anything we've seen over the last several years. (Looking at you Prime Wars Trilogy)
I agree that T-30 is closer in character design to the OG Valkyrie, and I really like that about him. But this Siege Jetfire is a completely different experience. Sure he's more toon accurate, but enough liberties have been taken in his character design and sculpt to make him feel like a healthy mix of both. I do wish though that his helmet had some antennas.
I think we are all still trying to swallow the currant prices of these toys, but if we go by what has become the new standard in pricing, I don't feel like I over paid for this toy at full price. IF a Deluxe is now $20, this guy should cost $80. Would I have liked a sale? SURE! But I paid what I paid and have already overlooked it lost in the fun of this Jetfire.
My first quick pic of what I'm sure what will be many more to come.
But to answer emlit's question, you gotta do you. Which one suits your wants and needs for the character? Both make a great representation of the character in a scale based on Deluxe, Voyager, Leader, etc. And both are good fun toys.
Posted by Cyberpath on August 26th, 2019 @ 3:00pm CDT
emlit wrote:So what’s the consensus on Siege Jetfire? He looks like an awesome figure with exceptional detail and articulation, although I don’t care for the scale in proportion to my other Siege figures and I don’t know if I’m OK with the $ investment. I actually like the Generations alt mode design better - should I pick that one up instead? Thoughts?
vs.
I do have both and I like both of them, but SIEGE is a major upgrade in my opinion.. cartoon-accuracy, size, articulation, effects, features (including that of the former version -- the armour pieces that turn him into "Jetfire.")
But you should know that I'm really into the cartoon, and the likeness to character model was a big selling point.
Cobotron -- congarts!
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 26th, 2019 @ 3:27pm CDT
Planning to pick the siege version up and I want the original G1 toy but that will have to be put away in a dark place and never see any kind of light ever. It is cheaper to have an arcadia or bandai VF on display (which I have a Roy Fokker version but that's the wrong colors and armored up, macross toy prices make my brain hurt).