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blackeyedprime wrote:if wreckers have blue autobot faction symbols...what are white decepticon faction symbols

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!

william-james88 wrote:

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!

Not a design error, thats 100% G1 accurate.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I just noticed that the "REFRAKTOR" label on the front of it's camera mode has a design error in its typeface. The "R" at the beginning of "REFRAKTOR" is slanted correctly, but the "R" at the end of the word is not slanted at all. A reprolabel would fix that!

Not a design error, thats 100% G1 accurate.

A G1 accurate design error!

Wireless_Phantom wrote:A G1 accurate design error!

o.supreme wrote:Normally I'm all about animated series accuracy over anything else. Jetfire is my one exception, because I love the original Macross Valkyrie model so much. However... all that being said, I think Siege Jetfire is brilliant! I never thought we'd see an animation accurate Skyfire, yet here we are. This toy is amazing, and I am so glad to have it.

emlit wrote:So what’s the consensus on Siege Jetfire? He looks like an awesome figure with exceptional detail and articulation, although I don’t care for the scale in proportion to my other Siege figures and I don’t know if I’m OK with the $ investment. I actually like the Generations alt mode design better - should I pick that one up instead? Thoughts?

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blackeyedprime wrote:I rate the cyber battalion jetfire

Planning to pick the siege version up and I want the original G1 toy but that will have to be put away in a dark place and never see any kind of light ever. It is cheaper to have an arcadia or bandai VF on display (which I have a Roy Fokker version but that's the wrong colors and armored up, macross toy prices make my brain hurt).

Ironhidensh wrote:Stay classy target.....

sol magnus wrote:And to be clear - I've had three 1985 Jetfires. I'm not in any way knocking on the classic. However, having seen Macross around the same time as Transformers debuted, I knew already that he was a Valkyrie, and therefore found it odd having known the origin of the toy.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Got Springer (and Siege Hightower)

Not into blocky G1 type stuff but always had fondness for Springer mostly from the Marvel UK comics so wanted to check this out. It's decent. Has that slight floppy feet issue many have but that can be fixed. The typical Siege battle damage paint still looks absolutely godawful to me. More like dirt. If I decide to keep this figure (doesn't fit very well into my collection but I dunno yet) then I'll try scrub that crud all off. Really wish he had more of a Devastation video game shading effect like the new redecos of Prime and Megatron too as that's how I like G1 stuff to look. Go all the way toon style for these blocky bots. But yeah he's alright. I'll play with this figure a bit more before I make any decisions.

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RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Be careful cleaning off the battle damage. Most of it is on top of already painted parts. You could end up removing the paint underneath the battle damage.

Cobotron wrote:Or just have a TV with the cartoon series on constant loop in the center of your collection display.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:update: ok yeah the silvery paint actually comes off with easily. using rough side of a scouring pad and so far all but the lil nook & cranny bits were easy to remove without the colour paint under being affected. Have I devalued the resale of this Springer now if i choose to sell it on? Possibly. Unless there's people out there looking for a 'clean' one I suppose. Might stick a reprolabel autobot insignia on the chest over the factory one too. I know there's a bit of irony in that i'm someone who deliberately adds silver paint to my Bayverse figures but that's my own choice and they're supposed to look worn and metal and all that and for me it just doesn't work on these Siege toys for the most part. Not the way it's been done on the vast majority of the parts anyways.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Seriously? For me that cel-shading (and let's not call it toon. The G1 cartoon NEVER looked that good, it's pure Devastation video game style) looks great on those figures I find otherwise unappealing (the standard versions just look far too mediocre to me). This lousy attempt at battle damage doesn't. It's garbage. Ugly, badly applied and makes little sense. It's too realistic an effect to be applied to designs that still look far too cartoon like even with all that detailing and it's not even done well. Fine whatever. You like what you like. This was probably the only Siege figure I'd even consider owning (I did have Firedrive and Lioniser for a couple weeks but thought they were kinda crappy so sold them). I don't like this toyline much. I find the robots quite bland looking and most of the 'cybertronian' vehicles far too boxy, already dated-looking and uninteresting (what happened to that neat futurisitic style the 2010 WfC Bumblebee had with it's cool curves and interesting deco?). I've always preferred realistic alt-modes for the most part anyways (of which this toyline has very little of). But yeah this Springer. He's just ok. He'll suffice if I do want to have a lil Marvel UK tribute section of the shelf but it's unlikely to be a fave of mine.

I'm kinda fed up with Transformers at moment anyways despite the cool SS reveals. I had hoped today's purchases might make me a bit more enthusiastic but had a jerk on instagram actually say I should be ordering Unicron instead of 'wasting cash on shi**y michael bay junk' on my Studio Series figures. Ain't my damn problem if that giant turtle-shelled toy doesn't meet it's target... I'm done.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Now that we're getting the Powerdashers with Siege, I wonder if we'll get the Omnibots with the next chapter of the War for Cybertron Trilogy? They're long overdue for some love and a little less obscure, I think, than the Powerdashers were. For that matter, is anyone champing at the bit for Kronoform watches, or the even more obscure Natron and Freezon from the Tyco car racing set?