New Shot of Mirage's Ability in Latest Transformers Rise of the Beasts TV Spot

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm not really sure if anyone is really copying anyone.

Except this stretch of the the thread was largely about the bio authors copying stuff from TFWiki, which is why I threw that out there.

william-james88 wrote:Are you hyped?

Nope.

Keep the expectations low, avoids disappointment, may result in pleasant surprise.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Are you hyped?

Nope.

Keep the expectations low, avoids disappointment, may result in pleasant surprise.

Best way to deal with it.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Are you hyped?

Nope.

Keep the expectations low, avoids disappointment, may result in pleasant surprise.

Best way to deal with it.

That's what I did for the recent D&D movie. My expectations were rock bottom.
I just saw it.
And ironically, it's the movie I had the most fun with this year!

ZeroWolf wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Are you hyped?

Nope.

Keep the expectations low, avoids disappointment, may result in pleasant surprise.

Best way to deal with it.

Pretty much.

Personally I am pretty hyped for Mirage and Primal in particular

The rumors persist that Scourge is a possessed Optimus Prime from an alternate universe. And that last line that Unicron is partial to possessing his victims....foreboding or foreshadowing?

First-Aid wrote:The rumors persist that Scourge is a possessed Optimus Prime from an alternate universe. And that last line that Unicron is partial to possessing his victims....foreboding or foreshadowing?

I feel like it just means there may a be point in the movie where Unicron uses Scourge as a means to interact with "lesser beings" like the Autobots and Maximals, like how he spoke through Sideways in the Armada cartoon, briefly possessed Megatron in the final Season 1 episode of Prime, and (for a more obscure example) had his Dark Essence possess Windrazor for a bit in the Beast Wars storyline Reaching the Omega Point.

I'm hyped to see the Autobots and Maximals together. They did an great job with the designs and can't wait to see them in motion.

I'm not worried about the time travel being oversaturated. It's about the execution, Transformers already had time travel stories before.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Are you hyped?

Nope.

Keep the expectations low, avoids disappointment, may result in pleasant surprise.

Best way to deal with it.

I do it all the time with movies and life, seems to work fine for me too.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Are you hyped?

Nope.

Keep the expectations low, avoids disappointment, may result in pleasant surprise.

Best way to deal with it.

I do it all the time with movies and life, seems to work fine for me too.

Same for me personally.

griftimus prime wrote:i wonder if the the badguys win. unicron destroys the earth, goes into another alternate universe and gets stuck in the earth or something.

I doubt it tbh, because this is the second movie in a trilogy. But hey what do I know lol.

alphatron10 wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:i wonder if the the badguys win. unicron destroys the earth, goes into another alternate universe and gets stuck in the earth or something.

I doubt it tbh, because this is the second movie in a trilogy. But hey what do I know lol.

This is said to be the first film in a new trilogy. BB movie seems to be serving as a general purpose prequel film.

Paramount and Hasbro are going all out with what they are ready to show us leading to the release of the Rise of the Beasts film. So anyone wanting to avoid most spoilers won't have a chance unless they stay away from any site discussing the film. Case in point, we have a brand new TV Spot below that shows us more bot shots. And not just that, but we see what is probably a new Maximal. While it is also a gorilla, it doesn't share the same details as Optimus Primal. A recent list of movie characters for foreign dubbing casts mentioned Apelink as a character. This may be Apelink. We also have a great shot of Optimus Prime transforming and a good look at Scourge in robot mode before taking on the Peterbilt alt mode. So this is a look at his "Cybertronian" form.

Enjoy!

Even if they are not part of the main cast, it would be cool to see references to other BEast Wars characters.

TulioDude wrote:Even if they are not part of the main cast, it would be cool to see references to other BEast Wars characters.

I'm hoping for an Easter egg or two. I'm not expecting full cameos mind.

Personally I'm hoping for some kind of stinger that references Beast Wars Megatron.

APELINK? The exclusive from the only BotCon I actually made it to?

Well slag, now they're getting my hopes up that Shokaract and his heralds will figure in somehow!

I absolutely hate Airazor's voice from that one trailer. Anyone else? Why is it so bad?

I donno - I kinda think that other ape design looks beefier and cooler...

The name is Apelinq, with a Q.

Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'

By this rate, we'll see all the key scenes of the Rise of the Beasts film before the movie comes out as Paramount is holding nothing back in the marketing (and I don't blame them, competition at the cineplex will be fierce). In this latest TV spot, we have a shot of Optimus Primal talking while Optimus Prime an Stratosphere are in the background in their robot modes. Now we knew Stratosphere had a voice actor and we had seen his bot mode in promotional material, but we didn't know if we'd actually see him as a character in bot mode in the film. And now we know that we will. This is a big contrast to similar elements we saw in The Last Knight where the submarine that transported Cade was said to be a Transformer but never transformed.

There is other new footage in the clip, including a scene with Noah's little brother and Mirage (looks like Pete Davidson is getting a lot of lines). You can see the tv spot below.

Burn wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'

Considering it was intended as a joke, and most jokes are by definition silly, you almost got it there, Sheldon Cooper.

Brokebot wrote:

Burn wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'

Considering it was intended as a joke, and most jokes are by definition silly, you almost got it there, Sheldon Cooper.

I laughed.

Anyway, having thought about it some, I'm relegating the Bayverse to the level of the Fast and Furious franchise. I enjoyed the 1st set of movies, even got them on DVD, had fun with the middle few, and will most likely disregard the rest, as the dive in quality storytelling is insurmountable by even the best action scenes. The Transformers/cars do look pretty good though.

Burn wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'

I agree. All of the Beast Wars characters seen pretty inspired of their season 1 designs, with Cheetor being the one that went into a more original rendition.

TulioDude wrote:

Burn wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'

I agree. All of the Beast Wars characters seen pretty inspired of their season 1 designs, with Cheetor being the one that went into a more original rendition.

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I'm going to guess that if that IS Apelinq, or some other character (the other ape I can think of is Primal Prime), it'll be of a similar vain to Cliffjumper in the Bumblebee movie, to introduce the audience to the protagonist.He or she will likely confront or be confronted by Scourge. Scourge may make some vague or direct reference to his plans or his master's plans, they fight, and Scourge will kill or incapacitate "Apelinq" to show us what kind of threat he poses to the Autobots. But that's just a theory.

Brokebot wrote:

Burn wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Considering the movie makers near complete disregard for most Transformers alt modes, the other gorilla is actually Rattrap.

Given that the alt modes of the Maximals in this movie reflect those of their namesakes in Beast Wars this comment seems silly.

Just sayin'

Considering it was intended as a joke, and most jokes are by definition silly, you almost got it there, Sheldon Cooper.

Oh Howard ... did you not know that it's hard to tell the tone of a post through written word? Perhaps using an emoji like this next time to help convey your message?

Plus, a lot of your opinions are of the negative nature so what else was I supposed to interpret it as?

I am getting really hyped for this movie, more so now than ever.

i really think Primal is going to be the star of the movie right now, him and Mirage. They are shaping up to be super cool.

Oh! So Snapchat added a filter to turn your pets into Optimus Prime last weekend. My 2 dogs loved it

If the marketing campaign is telling us something about this film, it's that you are going to see lots of Bot action and more Transformations than before. What is very peculiar about one of these new spots is that there is an action highlight for Optimus Prime transforming into his truck mode. We haven't seen that before in other films for Optimus, where the highlight is always about him going from truck to bot. There is also our best shot yet of Nightbird, a great action shot of Bumblebee and another transformation shot for Optimus Primal. Paramount also posted a random video of this Transformers film through a Wes Anderson filter. You can see all three videos below.

Seems like there is more fanservice and little easter eggs in this movie than in past TF movies, judging by what we've seen so far.

Hey! Having Optimus blast off in truck mode with a rocket on the back was MY idea! I did that when I was 10, they stole it from me!

Seriously though, this all looks pretty fun. Hopefully this one is more Bumblebee and less TLK.

Spider5800 wrote:Hey! Having Optimus blast off in truck mode with a rocket on the back was MY idea! I did that when I was 10, they stole it from me!

Seriously though, this all looks pretty fun. Hopefully this one is more Bumblebee and less TLK.

Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.

Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

william-james88 wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:Hey! Having Optimus blast off in truck mode with a rocket on the back was MY idea! I did that when I was 10, they stole it from me!

Seriously though, this all looks pretty fun. Hopefully this one is more Bumblebee and less TLK.

Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.

HOLY CRAP, I just realized this. It's actually kind of astounding. He just emerges from some smoke in truck mode at the end of the film. That's just bad, like no one transforming in MTMTE bad (except MTMTE was written well). It's like an Iron Man film where Tony Stark just talks and never dons a suit.

DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.

william-james88 wrote:Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.

This, on the other hand, I absolutely believe. Think OP was only in truck mode once in that entire movie.

God damn, Prime's transformation looked badass.

I really hope this movie isn't trash; the trailers and some ad spots have got my partner and some friends kinda hyped to see it, which hasn't happened since Revenge of the Fallen.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Optimus transforms at least 3 times in the film while we don't even see him transforming once in TLK. So it at least won't be that bad.

HOLY CRAP, I just realized this. It's actually kind of astounding. He just emerges from some smoke in truck mode at the end of the film. That's just bad, like no one transforming in MTMTE bad (except MTMTE was written well). It's like an Iron Man film where Tony Stark just talks and never dons a suit.

Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE but they definitely did it a few times. Rodimus, Cyclonus, Whirl, Rung, Star Saber, Overlord and Tarn (off the top of my head) definitely do so at the very least, not to mention prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.

Cheesinator wrote:Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE (...) prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.

wat

The world was conquered by bigoted Actionmasters?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Cheesinator wrote:Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE (...) prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.

wat

The world was conquered by bigoted Actionmasters?

Prejudice against altmode types, as in Functionism.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Cheesinator wrote:Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE (...) prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.

wat

The world was conquered by bigoted Actionmasters?

Prejudice against altmode types, as in Functionism.

Oh right, logical.

I remember on top of my head in an episode of TF Prime:

Starscream to Knockout: "What do you transform into?"
Knockout: "Into a car, why?"
Starscream with disgust: "Ugh... You're one of those..."

I can't find the video, nor I remember what the episode it was in, but that's a memorable quote.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Cheesinator wrote:Hold on, I know they didn't transform a lot in MTMTE (...) prejudice against alt modes being a huge part of the plot.

wat

The world was conquered by bigoted Actionmasters?

Prejudice against altmode types, as in Functionism.

Oh right, logical.

I remember on top of my head in an episode of TF Prime:

Starscream to Knockout: "What do you transform into?"
Knockout: "Into a car, why?"
Starscream with disgust: "Ugh... You're one of those..."

I can't find the video, nor I remember what the episode it was in, but that's a memorable quote.

His debut episode.

Spider5800 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.

IIRC in AoE after the Cemetery Wind attack he transforms to truck while still in his evasion mode.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.

IIRC in AoE after the Cemetery Wind attack he transforms to truck while still in his evasion mode.

Yeah, and his first appearance in the first film (admittedly he's halfway done when the camera pans over to him).

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.

IIRC in AoE after the Cemetery Wind attack he transforms to truck while still in his evasion mode.

Correct. Every movie has a minimum of at least two scenes to show Optimus transforming, with The Last Knight and Bumblebee being the exceptions.


I like how Revenge of The Fallen in particular, does the Shanghai arrival and scene at NEST HQ.

Spider5800 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.

He's transformed to truck mode a few times but the big novelty here is that he's transforming into a truck for an action scene, like in the 86 film. That's new for the live action films. He tends to transform into a truck for a disguise, so a defensive reason, rather than an offensive one as we see here.

Also, just a general statement, bots did Transform in MTMTE. Just not all the time as there wasn't a reason to. But when there was an action scene that called for that function, they didn't shy from it, like in this beautiful bit:

That was one of my favourite bits from MtMtE/Lost Light

william-james88 wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow - it only took them sixteen years and at least seven movies to figure out that Optimus could be shown changing to his ALT mode. Truly the entertainment industry is staffed with forward-thinking geniuses...

That can't be correct. I'm positive we saw him transform from robot to truck at least once, the beginning of RotF after he parachutes out of the plane. There's gotta be others.

He's transformed to truck mode a few times but the big novelty here is that he's transforming into a truck for an action scene, like in the 86 film. That's new for the live action films. He tends to transform into a truck for a disguise, so a defensive reason, rather than an offensive one as we see here.

How does his truck transformation during the Shanghai scene in ROTF not count as an action scene truck transformation?

Due to many films postponing their release due to the pandemic, everything is coming out all at once. So within the next month, we are getting The Little Mermaid, Into the Spiderverse, Elemental and The Flash with Rise of the Beasts in the middle of all that. And these films are not only big blockbusters but also all family friendly, making for some tough competition.
Be that as it may, the prediction from Deadline is a bold one, with an estimated $70 M domestic opening week-end. So that would be just for Canada and the US, and they remind us that these films have made more money in China than domestically so the film could make a bulk of its money overseas.
However, please remember that while China may sell a lot of tickets, the cinemas there retain a much bigger share of the price than in North America (Paramount would get around 40-50% of the ticket sales in NA and less in Asia).

The budget for Rise of the Beasts is estimated to be $200 Million before marketing. So the film would have to make around $500-$600 Million to break even (especially if the bulk of ticket sales comes from overseas). The Last Knight did manage to make 600 Million but Bumblebee did not. Let us know what your predictions are.