New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry
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This was an unexpected surprise. Amazon will have a second Jurassic Park Transformers crossover set. This one is based on the encounter between Nedry and the Dilophosaurus called Decepticon Dilophocon vs Autobot JP12. Both appear to be fully new molds. Here is the reveal blurb from Gizmodo.
They’re going to be making sequels to Jurassic Park until the end of time, and hopefully one of them takes inspiration from the recent Hasbro Transformers x Jurassic Park mashups, which now include a Dilophosaurus and a Jeep Wrangler that transform into robots—finally giving visitors a fighting chance when the park’s residents inevitably escape and hunt for a meal.
Hasbro has been doing these Transformers collaborations for a few years now, with memorable releases including bots inspired by Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, and even the animated X-Men series. For Jurassic Park fans, a collaboration back in 2021 stands out as one of the highlights, recreating the film’s iconic T. rex tour vehicle attack scene, but with a Cybertronian twist. The T. rex transformed into the formidable Decepticon Tyrannocon Rex, while the Ford Explorer tour vehicle transformed into Autobot JP93 wearing a recreation of Alan Grant’s hat, and wielding game warden Robert Muldoon’s SPAS-12 shotgun.
For the 40th anniversary of Jurassic Park, we’re getting another dino vs. vehicle Transformers mashup, but this time based on the scene where Dennis Nedry has an unfortunate run-in with a Dilophosaurus who has no interest in playing fetch. The two-pack includes the new Decepticon Dilophocon who transforms from Dilophosaurus to robot in 20 steps and includes a “venom blast effect” accessory, and the Autobot JP12, based on the Jeep Wrangler Sahara staff vehicle, that converts to its robot mode in 23 steps.
JP12 appears to be loosely based on Nedry, with a rain hat, glasses, and a can of Barbasol shaving cream that’s presumably filled with stolen dinosaur embryos—which is kind of confusing given JP12 identifies as an Autobot. Maybe the Autobots are looking to rewrite the Dinobots’ origin story? We can’t say for sure.
The Transformers Collaborative Jurassic Park x Transformers Dilophocon and Autobot JP12 set is available starting today and is priced a little cheaper than 2021’s Jurassic Park mashup, at $75. Starting at 1:00 pm EST, you can order it through the Hasbro Pulse online store, or through Amazon.
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Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162592)
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:22am CDT
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:22am CDT
This looks better than the previous JP crossover set, imo. Will likely snag it up!
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162593)
Posted by griftimus prime on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:28am CDT
Posted by griftimus prime on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:28am CDT
that dinobot looks really good
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162594)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:35am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:35am CDT
The Dino is definitely a heavy retool of Dinobot and it works.
As for the jeep, it does look completely new.
I'll hold on pre-ordering though.
Like for the previous set I expect the initial Canadian price to be bloated and the thing will be on discount sooner or later.
As for the jeep, it does look completely new.
I'll hold on pre-ordering though.
Like for the previous set I expect the initial Canadian price to be bloated and the thing will be on discount sooner or later.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162596)
Posted by whacko on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:49am CDT
Posted by whacko on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:49am CDT
It feels really weird that the Autobot character in this set looks like Dennis Nedry, after all he was the villain of Jurassic Park movie. If he hadn't sabotaged the park systems in order to steal dino embryos no one would have died. They even include the shaving foam can he was using to transport his stolen embryos.
Makes you wonder if the creators of this set have ever watched the movie.
Makes you wonder if the creators of this set have ever watched the movie.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162597)
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:57am CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 10:57am CDT
Amusingly, Dennis Nedry would probably be a turncoat for the Decepticons - would have been nice if they had managed to work that into the fiction considering. I see they're going with the Dinosaurs = Decepticons and Cars = Autobots approach. Overall, I love the set and will likely grab it because that Dilophosaurus is unique in itself. My inner Jurassic Park fan is curious about it and intrigued, and my inner Transformers fan is ecstatic to have another dinobot in the collection that is also a proud Decepticon.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 11:32am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 11:32am CDT
Thinking about it, that spitting Dino is out of scale. They should have retooled Core Vertebrax instead.
The set would have been cheaper too.
The set would have been cheaper too.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162600)
Posted by Emerje on June 1st, 2023 @ 11:48am CDT
It shares some engineering, but not parts.
After watching the fluctuating prices of the first set (which I didn't really like) I'm definitely holding out for a massive discount, maybe the next Pulse Warehouse sale.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 1st, 2023 @ 11:48am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:The Dino is definitely a heavy retool of Dinobot and it works.
It shares some engineering, but not parts.
After watching the fluctuating prices of the first set (which I didn't really like) I'm definitely holding out for a massive discount, maybe the next Pulse Warehouse sale.
Emerje
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162601)
Posted by Grahf_ on June 1st, 2023 @ 12:20pm CDT
Huh? Are you seeing something that I'm not as she looks all new as well. William-James88 even says as much in their part of the post. If anything she looks like Universe 2.0 Dinobot transformation wise but definitely not Kingdom Dinobot. The ball and socket joints should be a dead giveaway that she's not a retool. The parts layout is different too since the dino legs become Dinobot's arms for the Kingdom toy whereas they become the robot legs on this new figure.
Ultimately though Dilophocon reminds me of the Rapticons. She transforms a bit like Shred. Also a bit like McDonald's "Transmetal" Dinobot. Not that that figure had much of a transformation.
Dilophocon isn't a large figure going by the 5mm ports in the hands and the fact that the arms look small comparatively. It should only be about deluxe size at most and not a very large one. Any bigger and they might not have used the ball and socket joints. It looks like Autobot JP12 isn't using any ball and socket joints like Autobot JP93 did. So maybe he's going to be a larger figure and that's why he's not a partial off of Siege Hound.
The tail reminds me of BW alligator Megatron and BW Iguanus.
I'm not liking the Alternator Hound like belly wheels on Autobot JP12. At least they can move around for transformation so maybe there's a better position for them. I don't hate Autobot JP93 at all but this looks like a much better designed figure overall. I really don't like the head though.
Posted by Grahf_ on June 1st, 2023 @ 12:20pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:The Dino is definitely a heavy retool of Dinobot and it works.
As for the jeep, it does look completely new.
Huh? Are you seeing something that I'm not as she looks all new as well. William-James88 even says as much in their part of the post. If anything she looks like Universe 2.0 Dinobot transformation wise but definitely not Kingdom Dinobot. The ball and socket joints should be a dead giveaway that she's not a retool. The parts layout is different too since the dino legs become Dinobot's arms for the Kingdom toy whereas they become the robot legs on this new figure.
Ultimately though Dilophocon reminds me of the Rapticons. She transforms a bit like Shred. Also a bit like McDonald's "Transmetal" Dinobot. Not that that figure had much of a transformation.
Still not a retool but yes, that would've made more sense at least size wise.-Kanrabat- wrote:Thinking about it, that spitting Dino is out of scale. They should have retooled Core Vertebreak instead.
The set would have been cheaper too.
Dilophocon isn't a large figure going by the 5mm ports in the hands and the fact that the arms look small comparatively. It should only be about deluxe size at most and not a very large one. Any bigger and they might not have used the ball and socket joints. It looks like Autobot JP12 isn't using any ball and socket joints like Autobot JP93 did. So maybe he's going to be a larger figure and that's why he's not a partial off of Siege Hound.
The tail reminds me of BW alligator Megatron and BW Iguanus.
I'm not liking the Alternator Hound like belly wheels on Autobot JP12. At least they can move around for transformation so maybe there's a better position for them. I don't hate Autobot JP93 at all but this looks like a much better designed figure overall. I really don't like the head though.
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Posted by blackeyedprime on June 1st, 2023 @ 12:51pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 1st, 2023 @ 12:51pm CDT
I'm liking these better than the last ones too.
Dino actually looks like a beastswars toy, the dino arms still seem a bit off but no where near as bad as dinobots.
The wheels on jeeps bot mode do look a bit weird and the hardhat reminds me of those megaman enemies but still seems okay.
Will definitely wait for reviews with the first JP quality of the car bot.
Dino actually looks like a beastswars toy, the dino arms still seem a bit off but no where near as bad as dinobots.
The wheels on jeeps bot mode do look a bit weird and the hardhat reminds me of those megaman enemies but still seems okay.
Will definitely wait for reviews with the first JP quality of the car bot.
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
Another mixed bag. Looks somewhat better than the last set
The autobots jeep alt mode is cool of course, robot mode is mostly okay but that headsculpt is just lame. Shoulder joints look like they'll be a nightmare as well
Dilophocon looks cool though. Alt mode a bit wonky but good enough. And robot mode looks cool, minus the potentially loose ball joint arms. Could they make an Iguanus out of this? Kinda want this set kinda don't
Other set is only $50 on Amazon rn too
The autobots jeep alt mode is cool of course, robot mode is mostly okay but that headsculpt is just lame. Shoulder joints look like they'll be a nightmare as well
Dilophocon looks cool though. Alt mode a bit wonky but good enough. And robot mode looks cool, minus the potentially loose ball joint arms. Could they make an Iguanus out of this? Kinda want this set kinda don't
Other set is only $50 on Amazon rn too
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162607)
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:10pm CDT
I'm taking a guess that the wheels are meant to replicate Nedry's belly. (The choice of using the tires to assist in it looking round, probably.)
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:10pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:The wheels on jeeps bot mode do look a bit weird and the hardhat reminds me of those megaman enemies but still seems okay.
I'm taking a guess that the wheels are meant to replicate Nedry's belly. (The choice of using the tires to assist in it looking round, probably.)
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Posted by o.supreme on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:12pm CDT
Cool looking set. I know with the previous set, the significance of JP93 was obviously the year the first film came out. Not sure what the significance of JP12 is..??
As for the toys themselves. I can see why people without looking back would think Dilophocon is a heavy Kingdom Dinobot retool, also that the jeep is a heavy retool of the previous JP jeep. While it does seem likely these are all new. I'll wait to see some side-by-side comparisons.
Many people thought the X-Men Blackbird was all new, but it did in fact tun out to be a very extensive retool of SS RotF Jetfire.
As for the toys themselves. I can see why people without looking back would think Dilophocon is a heavy Kingdom Dinobot retool, also that the jeep is a heavy retool of the previous JP jeep. While it does seem likely these are all new. I'll wait to see some side-by-side comparisons.
Many people thought the X-Men Blackbird was all new, but it did in fact tun out to be a very extensive retool of SS RotF Jetfire.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:34pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 1st, 2023 @ 1:34pm CDT
Two things, the first set the Autobot was based on that Dinosaur wrangler who got outsmarted by a Raptor, in this set the Autobot is based on the human who betrayed everyone and took a facial. If this line continues will we see an Autobot based Samuel L Jackson with a detachable arm?
We're getting a Transformer that looks like Newman from Seinfeld, in all my years I never thought I'd see the day.
We're getting a Transformer that looks like Newman from Seinfeld, in all my years I never thought I'd see the day.
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Posted by o.supreme on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:04pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:04pm CDT
Next set will feature the Lawyer that transforms into a toilet. 
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Posted by Slashercon on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:15pm CDT
Posted by Slashercon on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:15pm CDT
Yeah, I honestly don't remotely see how Dilophocon is even remotely a retool/remold of Kingdom Dinobot. The small frame, ball joints, different transformation scheme, THE SIZE all scream new to me. Heck, I would bet more money that it shared engineering more in common with old beast wars figures from the 90s' instead.
On that note, This is an appealing set. JP12 looks very...stout. Love the accessories, the body, and the alt mode of course. Dilophocon looks a bit malnourished in the paint department. It's a rather unique beast mode so I'll give it that.
Made the mistake of pre-ordering the last JP/TF Collab set at full price. I'll happily wait for the inevitable discount for this set.
On that note, This is an appealing set. JP12 looks very...stout. Love the accessories, the body, and the alt mode of course. Dilophocon looks a bit malnourished in the paint department. It's a rather unique beast mode so I'll give it that.
Made the mistake of pre-ordering the last JP/TF Collab set at full price. I'll happily wait for the inevitable discount for this set.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162613)
Posted by william-james88 on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:17pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:17pm CDT
This price is ROUGH, I will wait for a discount.
Also, a big miss is their attempt at a raincoat. Since they only do the top part, it looks like Nedry is wearing a construction hat instead.
Also, I will reiterate, both are new molds. While there may be some similarities, both are deluxe scale which is different from whichever toy they may share similarities with.
Also, a big miss is their attempt at a raincoat. Since they only do the top part, it looks like Nedry is wearing a construction hat instead.
Also, I will reiterate, both are new molds. While there may be some similarities, both are deluxe scale which is different from whichever toy they may share similarities with.
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Posted by Emerje on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:32pm CDT
I was wondering about that, but the problem is he's sort of backwards. On Iguanus the arms turn into the front legs and the rear legs are fake little stubby things with the bot legs hiding underneath. Here his arms hide underneath and the legs become the dino legs and they're just too big for a frilled lizard.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:32pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:Could they make an Iguanus out of this?
I was wondering about that, but the problem is he's sort of backwards. On Iguanus the arms turn into the front legs and the rear legs are fake little stubby things with the bot legs hiding underneath. Here his arms hide underneath and the legs become the dino legs and they're just too big for a frilled lizard.
Emerje
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:36pm CDT
Never mind Iguanus. This wouold be perfect for Crazybolt!!Emerje wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Could they make an Iguanus out of this?
I was wondering about that, but the problem is he's sort of backwards. On Iguanus the arms turn into the front legs and the rear legs are fake little stubby things with the bot legs hiding underneath. Here his arms hide underneath and the legs become the dino legs and they're just too big for a frilled lizard.
Emerje
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Posted by Emerje on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:42pm CDT
I mean, it basically is Crazybolt's cartoon model already. New heads and you're pretty much done.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 1st, 2023 @ 2:42pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Never mind Iguanus. This wouold be perfect for Crazybolt!!Emerje wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Could they make an Iguanus out of this?
I was wondering about that, but the problem is he's sort of backwards. On Iguanus the arms turn into the front legs and the rear legs are fake little stubby things with the bot legs hiding underneath. Here his arms hide underneath and the legs become the dino legs and they're just too big for a frilled lizard.
Emerje
I mean, it basically is Crazybolt's cartoon model already. New heads and you're pretty much done.
Emerje
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Posted by Rtron on June 1st, 2023 @ 3:11pm CDT
Posted by Rtron on June 1st, 2023 @ 3:11pm CDT
Hoping they retool the dino into Iguanus and/or Crazybolt, and then they retool that into Alligator Megatron. I'm still hoping for a retool of Airazor into Bat Optimus...
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Posted by DeathReviews on June 1st, 2023 @ 4:43pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on June 1st, 2023 @ 4:43pm CDT
At least they showed more innovation with this than with the previous JP set. Not convinced I'll get it though. Hefty price tag for what looks to be only 2 deluxes.
And it always bugged me from the movie that the Dilophosaur was depicted so small. Their normal size is 8 feet tall and 25 feet long when fully grown. Unless the one in the movie was a pre-juvenile.
And it always bugged me from the movie that the Dilophosaur was depicted so small. Their normal size is 8 feet tall and 25 feet long when fully grown. Unless the one in the movie was a pre-juvenile.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 1st, 2023 @ 6:24pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 1st, 2023 @ 6:24pm CDT
Pretty nice looking set.
Dilf-ocon appears to be an upsized shared engineering concept with Kingdom Vertebreak. Interesting. I love the Dilophosaurus mode, with excellent blast effect uses.
JP12 actually looks pretty neat and solid too!
Overall, nice and interesting set.
Dilf-ocon appears to be an upsized shared engineering concept with Kingdom Vertebreak. Interesting. I love the Dilophosaurus mode, with excellent blast effect uses.
JP12 actually looks pretty neat and solid too!
Overall, nice and interesting set.
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Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:16pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:16pm CDT
Gonna put my paleontologist hat on for a moment here.
Comparing both Dilophocon side by side with Vertebreak in just the promotional images alone here you can definitely see that Dilophocon does in fact share similar tooling as Vertebreak.
There's some additional molding done for it from what I can tell, but overall yeah I'd say it looks like it is using the tooling more from Vertebreak than anything else. I suspect it was "upscaled" if it is in fact, larger, but again when the final product is in hand we'll know for absolutely certain. So, the Dilophosaurs in Jurassic Park were undersized anyways, canonically this is either due to genetic anomalies or because they were juveniles possibly (both ideas have been kicked around in auxiliary media and by film creators and in-universe material). The real Dilophosaurus is a beast, about 18-22 feet, and would technically be in scale with the Jeep if Hasbro are using those size measurements from the actual animal. It is Hasbro, they don't always do stuff in scale and sometimes they just throw whatever at the wall to see what sticks in the capacity for Jurassic Park stuff. *grumble grumble*
This is the real size comparison of the actual animal. Chomp. Chomp. Dilo is a big chonk.
Also, no, the actual animal didn't spit venom. That was introduced by Michael Crichton in the original novel due to the belief at the time the jaw muscles of the actual animal would be too weak to munch on anything. Later studies published since then have shown otherwise and that the subnarial gap (kink in the snout under the nose) in the top jaw was used as a way to trap prey items in their chompers to cut down on the prey struggling free from their bite. They probably ate mostly smaller animals (think lizards and rodents) as well as smaller dinosaurs (this was the early Jurassic, so things didn't get super huge until much later) at the time and scavenged from slightly larger carcasses - or if they were social and pack hunters they could probably take down the prosauropods of that time with relative ease if they had coordinated attacks.
Comparing both Dilophocon side by side with Vertebreak in just the promotional images alone here you can definitely see that Dilophocon does in fact share similar tooling as Vertebreak.
There's some additional molding done for it from what I can tell, but overall yeah I'd say it looks like it is using the tooling more from Vertebreak than anything else. I suspect it was "upscaled" if it is in fact, larger, but again when the final product is in hand we'll know for absolutely certain. So, the Dilophosaurs in Jurassic Park were undersized anyways, canonically this is either due to genetic anomalies or because they were juveniles possibly (both ideas have been kicked around in auxiliary media and by film creators and in-universe material). The real Dilophosaurus is a beast, about 18-22 feet, and would technically be in scale with the Jeep if Hasbro are using those size measurements from the actual animal. It is Hasbro, they don't always do stuff in scale and sometimes they just throw whatever at the wall to see what sticks in the capacity for Jurassic Park stuff. *grumble grumble*
This is the real size comparison of the actual animal. Chomp. Chomp. Dilo is a big chonk.
Also, no, the actual animal didn't spit venom. That was introduced by Michael Crichton in the original novel due to the belief at the time the jaw muscles of the actual animal would be too weak to munch on anything. Later studies published since then have shown otherwise and that the subnarial gap (kink in the snout under the nose) in the top jaw was used as a way to trap prey items in their chompers to cut down on the prey struggling free from their bite. They probably ate mostly smaller animals (think lizards and rodents) as well as smaller dinosaurs (this was the early Jurassic, so things didn't get super huge until much later) at the time and scavenged from slightly larger carcasses - or if they were social and pack hunters they could probably take down the prosauropods of that time with relative ease if they had coordinated attacks.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:32pm CDT
The dinos in JP are more engineered monsters than anything else though. It's even canon they they had to "fill in the genetic gaps" with random things.
It's really too bad that we may never know what the dinosaurs TRULY looked like. We can only make do with the "shrink-warpped" bones that are the dinos we all know.
Some artist imagined if we did the same thing to modern animals.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:32pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:No, the actual animal didn't spit venom. That was introduced by Crichton in the original novel due to the belief the jaw muscles of the actual animal would be too weak to munch on anything. Later studies show otherwise and that the subnarial gap (kink in the snout under the nose) in the top jaw is used as a way to trap prey items in their chompers.
The dinos in JP are more engineered monsters than anything else though. It's even canon they they had to "fill in the genetic gaps" with random things.
It's really too bad that we may never know what the dinosaurs TRULY looked like. We can only make do with the "shrink-warpped" bones that are the dinos we all know.
Some artist imagined if we did the same thing to modern animals.
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Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:46pm CDT
Yeah, definitely. I wouldn't say Dilophosaurus is a push-over by any means - it has the body plan that Coelophysis and other early theropods of that time and then subsequently carried over until the end of the Late Cretaceous. I edited my above post to point that out where I could.
The paleoartist, John Conway, (the artist you're probably referencing here judging from the thumbnail of the video) championed this idea and does make some impressive points about how little we know about dinosaurs and their actual life appearance. I mean look at the skull of hippo and compare it to the actual living animal. That said, Mammals are weird though in the sense they have a lot of extra tissue and muscles anchoring in and around their skull - dinosaurs are more a cross between birds and reptiles. That doesn't mean Conway doesn't have a point as it is a fair one. We can get peaks into the appearance of dinosaurs though and there's a lot we can gain from looking at other related animals that have been found with such things as skin/feather impressions. For example, take Tyrannosaurus and Yutyrannus - a feathered relative. So there are ways to know from trace fossils like skin imprints and even feather impressions that give us a hint. Keep in mind those impressions represent one tiny bit of the animal so there is no definitive evidence that there wasn't some kind of feathering going on. This is all thanks to different types of preservation. Too many people do restore the dinosaurs as their other archosaurian ancestors (crocodilians) or other modern reptiles like Monitor lizards, and not like their descendants, birds. Birds have some wacky displays and likely dinosaurs had some wacky ones similar or on the level of too.
Did Dilophosaurus have feathers? We can't say for sure 100%, but it's possible it could have.
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:46pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:No, the actual animal didn't spit venom. That was introduced by Crichton in the original novel due to the belief the jaw muscles of the actual animal would be too weak to munch on anything. Later studies show otherwise and that the subnarial gap (kink in the snout under the nose) in the top jaw is used as a way to trap prey items in their chompers.
The dinos in JP are more engineered monsters than anything else though. It's even canon they they had to "fill in the genetic gaps" with random things.
It's really too bad that we may never know what the dinosaurs TRULY looked like. We can only make do with the "shrink-warpped" bones that are the dinos we all know.
Some artist imagined if we did the same thing to modern animals.
Yeah, definitely. I wouldn't say Dilophosaurus is a push-over by any means - it has the body plan that Coelophysis and other early theropods of that time and then subsequently carried over until the end of the Late Cretaceous. I edited my above post to point that out where I could.
The paleoartist, John Conway, (the artist you're probably referencing here judging from the thumbnail of the video) championed this idea and does make some impressive points about how little we know about dinosaurs and their actual life appearance. I mean look at the skull of hippo and compare it to the actual living animal. That said, Mammals are weird though in the sense they have a lot of extra tissue and muscles anchoring in and around their skull - dinosaurs are more a cross between birds and reptiles. That doesn't mean Conway doesn't have a point as it is a fair one. We can get peaks into the appearance of dinosaurs though and there's a lot we can gain from looking at other related animals that have been found with such things as skin/feather impressions. For example, take Tyrannosaurus and Yutyrannus - a feathered relative. So there are ways to know from trace fossils like skin imprints and even feather impressions that give us a hint. Keep in mind those impressions represent one tiny bit of the animal so there is no definitive evidence that there wasn't some kind of feathering going on. This is all thanks to different types of preservation. Too many people do restore the dinosaurs as their other archosaurian ancestors (crocodilians) or other modern reptiles like Monitor lizards, and not like their descendants, birds. Birds have some wacky displays and likely dinosaurs had some wacky ones similar or on the level of too.
Did Dilophosaurus have feathers? We can't say for sure 100%, but it's possible it could have.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162658)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:52pm CDT
Not just feathers, but huge blobs of fat, "chicken hats", throat pockets to help sing like frogs or "flesh mustaches".
As for the colors, they coule be either "camouflage" or psychedelic bright with hypnotic patterns.
Who know?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:52pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:Did Dilophosaurus have feathers? We can't say for sure 100%, but it's possible it could have.
Not just feathers, but huge blobs of fat, "chicken hats", throat pockets to help sing like frogs or "flesh mustaches".
As for the colors, they coule be either "camouflage" or psychedelic bright with hypnotic patterns.
Who know?
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162659)
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:59pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 1st, 2023 @ 8:59pm CDT
Very true, I think Brian Engh made a more recent restoration based on the available skull material we have.
I'd be happy to discuss paleontology stuff further, but probably in a PM so I'm not de-railing the topic here too much with it. I figured I'd toss my expertise in here.
Anyways, back to Transformers talk. Apologies for the paleontology discussion, once again.
Yes, the gun does look very similar to the Beast Wars Alligator Megatron. Hopefully, it won't be too loosey-goosey like mine is. Loves to flop around between the tail tip and the barrel. Such a pain.
I'd be happy to discuss paleontology stuff further, but probably in a PM so I'm not de-railing the topic here too much with it. I figured I'd toss my expertise in here.
Anyways, back to Transformers talk. Apologies for the paleontology discussion, once again.
Yes, the gun does look very similar to the Beast Wars Alligator Megatron. Hopefully, it won't be too loosey-goosey like mine is. Loves to flop around between the tail tip and the barrel. Such a pain.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162667)
Posted by Overcracker on June 1st, 2023 @ 9:38pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on June 1st, 2023 @ 9:38pm CDT
I find it kind of interesting that they cose the Nedry and Dilophosaur scene, rather than the doctor and the Triceratops.
Technically the dino is the “good guy” while the Jeep is the “bad guy”
I do appreciate the fact it comes with a Barbasol can though.
Also, does this mean we can expect a Hammond Jeep and Bronto set?
Ohh what about an Allan Grant Explorer and Velociraptor?
Technically the dino is the “good guy” while the Jeep is the “bad guy”
I do appreciate the fact it comes with a Barbasol can though.
Also, does this mean we can expect a Hammond Jeep and Bronto set?
Ohh what about an Allan Grant Explorer and Velociraptor?
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162689)
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 2nd, 2023 @ 3:29pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 2nd, 2023 @ 3:29pm CDT
I'd personally like a Jeep Hammond and Brachiosaurus set mostly the fact that herbivores don't get as much attention as they should. Same with a Triceratops set too. Though many people associate herbivores with being good guys, but it would switch some things around. I still think Nedry - if they were using him as the robot mode which it looks like - should have been a 'Con since he was so greedy. Basically, the equivalent of Swindle I'd feel.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162691)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 2nd, 2023 @ 3:33pm CDT
Ironically works since Swindle was a jeep in Alternators
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 2nd, 2023 @ 3:33pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:I'd personally like a Jeep Hammond and Brachiosaurus set mostly the fact that herbivores don't get as much attention as they should. Same with a Triceratops set too. Though many people associate herbivores with being good guys, but it would switch some things around. I still think Nedry - if they were using him as the robot mode which it looks like - should have been a 'Con since he was so greedy. Basically, the equivalent of Swindle I'd feel.
Ironically works since Swindle was a jeep in Alternators
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162693)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 2nd, 2023 @ 3:53pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 2nd, 2023 @ 3:53pm CDT
Looking at the pictures again, it seems BOTH are deluxes.
So...
75 mother effing US dollars.
Woah.
I dread the Canadian price.
So...
75 mother effing US dollars.
Woah.
I dread the Canadian price.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162697)
Posted by Overcracker on June 2nd, 2023 @ 4:35pm CDT
The previous set was $105 for a Leader and a Deluxe so yes, the crossover sets are over priced.
Of course you can now get it for $49 bucks on Amazon.
And I just noticed I totally called a Nedry-tron back when the T-Rex set was first revealed in page 1 of this very thread.
Posted by Overcracker on June 2nd, 2023 @ 4:35pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Looking at the pictures again, it seems BOTH are deluxes.
So...
75 mother effing US dollars.
Woah.
I dread the Canadian price.
The previous set was $105 for a Leader and a Deluxe so yes, the crossover sets are over priced.
Of course you can now get it for $49 bucks on Amazon.
And I just noticed I totally called a Nedry-tron back when the T-Rex set was first revealed in page 1 of this very thread.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162698)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2023 @ 4:47pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2023 @ 4:47pm CDT
Swindle (G1) has always been a jeep.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I'd personally like a Jeep Hammond and Brachiosaurus set mostly the fact that herbivores don't get as much attention as they should. Same with a Triceratops set too. Though many people associate herbivores with being good guys, but it would switch some things around. I still think Nedry - if they were using him as the robot mode which it looks like - should have been a 'Con since he was so greedy. Basically, the equivalent of Swindle I'd feel.
Ironically works since Swindle was a jeep in Alternators
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162700)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 2nd, 2023 @ 4:55pm CDT
G1 was not a literal Jeep, but close enough
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 2nd, 2023 @ 4:55pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Swindle (G1) has always been a jeep.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I'd personally like a Jeep Hammond and Brachiosaurus set mostly the fact that herbivores don't get as much attention as they should. Same with a Triceratops set too. Though many people associate herbivores with being good guys, but it would switch some things around. I still think Nedry - if they were using him as the robot mode which it looks like - should have been a 'Con since he was so greedy. Basically, the equivalent of Swindle I'd feel.
Ironically works since Swindle was a jeep in Alternators
G1 was not a literal Jeep, but close enough
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162733)
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 2nd, 2023 @ 7:13pm CDT
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 2nd, 2023 @ 7:13pm CDT
TOON Swindle was a Jeep, but the OG toy was not a Jeep.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2162767)
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 3rd, 2023 @ 9:53am CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 3rd, 2023 @ 9:53am CDT
I guess if they ever do fiction for the Jurassic Park x Transformers crossover series they could have "Autobot JP12" team up with Swindle to smuggle dinosaur embryos from Isla Nublar instead, the motivation "to make a name for themselves" since being called "Autobot JP12" is more of a designation than an actual name.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2163484)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 14th, 2023 @ 10:57pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 14th, 2023 @ 10:57pm CDT
The Canadian listing for the newest JP set is already up. As expected, the price is absurdly high.
115$CAN.
We Canadians pay 15$CAN more compared to the American price. A price that was already super expensive from the start.
Yup.
This thing is definitely on my "to wait for a sale" list.
Speaking about waiting for a sale, the first set is now at the pretty unbeatable price of 86$CAN!
That's almost 50% off compared to the original bloated 150-ish CAN$ original price.
115$CAN.
We Canadians pay 15$CAN more compared to the American price. A price that was already super expensive from the start.
Yup.
This thing is definitely on my "to wait for a sale" list.
Speaking about waiting for a sale, the first set is now at the pretty unbeatable price of 86$CAN!
That's almost 50% off compared to the original bloated 150-ish CAN$ original price.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2163736)
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 19th, 2023 @ 9:44am CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on June 19th, 2023 @ 9:44am CDT
Being a Jurassic Park collector primarily, it's a must-buy for me. For now, though, I'm waiting for a sale and the price to come down before I go ahead and purchase unless I receive it as a gift like I did with the Tyrannocon Rex set. I am pleased to see the Tyrannocon Rex set is still available, but I have also seen the price drop too there so it might just be a matter of time hopefully.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2164134)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 25th, 2023 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 25th, 2023 @ 6:06pm CDT
Think we'll ever get a terminator X transformers crossover?
Hear me out: Barricade with a head retool as T-1000 with a sword hand/arm/finger attachment. I guess an animated Prowl retool would be possible too but nah
And then a brand new mold for T-800 with a motorcycle alt mode, an alternate head with battle damage, and one of the hands molded with an extended thumb (though still capable of holding weapons). And the weapons would be a shotgun and a grenade launcher
They could be released as a two-pack. Orrrrrrr one of the 2-packs as T-1000 with a retool of strongarm or Prime arcee as Sarah Connor
And the other 2-pack with T-800 and a smaller deluxe bot retooled as young John Connor
Hear me out: Barricade with a head retool as T-1000 with a sword hand/arm/finger attachment. I guess an animated Prowl retool would be possible too but nah
And then a brand new mold for T-800 with a motorcycle alt mode, an alternate head with battle damage, and one of the hands molded with an extended thumb (though still capable of holding weapons). And the weapons would be a shotgun and a grenade launcher
They could be released as a two-pack. Orrrrrrr one of the 2-packs as T-1000 with a retool of strongarm or Prime arcee as Sarah Connor
And the other 2-pack with T-800 and a smaller deluxe bot retooled as young John Connor
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2164187)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 26th, 2023 @ 8:24pm CDT
did you read the TF x Terminator comic? I really want those seekers
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 26th, 2023 @ 8:24pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:Think we'll ever get a terminator X transformers crossover?
Hear me out: Barricade with a head retool as T-1000 with a sword hand/arm/finger attachment. I guess an animated Prowl retool would be possible too but nah
And then a brand new mold for T-800 with a motorcycle alt mode, an alternate head with battle damage, and one of the hands molded with an extended thumb (though still capable of holding weapons). And the weapons would be a shotgun and a grenade launcher
They could be released as a two-pack. Orrrrrrr one of the 2-packs as T-1000 with a retool of strongarm or Prime arcee as Sarah Connor
And the other 2-pack with T-800 and a smaller deluxe bot retooled as young John Connor
did you read the TF x Terminator comic? I really want those seekers
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2164194)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 26th, 2023 @ 8:29pm CDT
I didn't but im gonna look it up now!
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 26th, 2023 @ 8:29pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Think we'll ever get a terminator X transformers crossover?
Hear me out: Barricade with a head retool as T-1000 with a sword hand/arm/finger attachment. I guess an animated Prowl retool would be possible too but nah
And then a brand new mold for T-800 with a motorcycle alt mode, an alternate head with battle damage, and one of the hands molded with an extended thumb (though still capable of holding weapons). And the weapons would be a shotgun and a grenade launcher
They could be released as a two-pack. Orrrrrrr one of the 2-packs as T-1000 with a retool of strongarm or Prime arcee as Sarah Connor
And the other 2-pack with T-800 and a smaller deluxe bot retooled as young John Connor
did you read the TF x Terminator comic? I really want those seekers
I didn't but im gonna look it up now!
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2164201)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 26th, 2023 @ 8:34pm CDT
Some inspired TFs with Terminator stuff in them in there!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 26th, 2023 @ 8:34pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Think we'll ever get a terminator X transformers crossover?
Hear me out: Barricade with a head retool as T-1000 with a sword hand/arm/finger attachment. I guess an animated Prowl retool would be possible too but nah
And then a brand new mold for T-800 with a motorcycle alt mode, an alternate head with battle damage, and one of the hands molded with an extended thumb (though still capable of holding weapons). And the weapons would be a shotgun and a grenade launcher
They could be released as a two-pack. Orrrrrrr one of the 2-packs as T-1000 with a retool of strongarm or Prime arcee as Sarah Connor
And the other 2-pack with T-800 and a smaller deluxe bot retooled as young John Connor
did you read the TF x Terminator comic? I really want those seekers
I didn't but im gonna look it up now!
Some inspired TFs with Terminator stuff in them in there!
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2168168)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 8th, 2023 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 8th, 2023 @ 4:31pm CDT
Transformers X Jurassic Park Crossover AUTOBOT JP12 & DECEPTICON DILOPHOCON video Review!
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2168229)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 9th, 2023 @ 5:43pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 9th, 2023 @ 5:43pm CDT
The new set just came in stock on Amazon.
I'll be waiting for a discount this time around, but it's there for those that want it.
I'll be waiting for a discount this time around, but it's there for those that want it.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2168235)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 9th, 2023 @ 5:56pm CDT
It's been on pre-order since around it was announced at Amazon.ca.
But yeah, I'll rely on the first set's history and I'll definitely wait for a discount. 115$can for two deluxes that I KNOW will be on sale sooner or later is a big nope.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 9th, 2023 @ 5:56pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The new set just came in stock on Amazon.
I'll be waiting for a discount this time around, but it's there for those that want it.
It's been on pre-order since around it was announced at Amazon.ca.
But yeah, I'll rely on the first set's history and I'll definitely wait for a discount. 115$can for two deluxes that I KNOW will be on sale sooner or later is a big nope.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2168651)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 14th, 2023 @ 8:36pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 14th, 2023 @ 8:36pm CDT
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2174040)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2023 @ 8:01pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2023 @ 8:01pm CST
I got the 2nd crossover set at 30% off thanks to Amazon. I definitely think they learned from the first set, because this one is far better. they did a really good job it with, a lot more stable, a lot more fun, and even a really cool display. Loving it.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2174047)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2023 @ 8:34pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2023 @ 8:34pm CST
Even at 30% off that set is still WAY, WAY too expensive.
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2174048)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2023 @ 11:07pm CST
For us in the US, 30% off is $52, which is 2 deluxes, which is what these are. The price at 30% is in fact right.
And, these are good deluxes too
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 3rd, 2023 @ 11:07pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Even at 30% off that set is still WAY, WAY too expensive.
For us in the US, 30% off is $52, which is 2 deluxes, which is what these are. The price at 30% is in fact right.
And, these are good deluxes too
Re: New Jurassic Park Transformers Crossover Set Revealed Based on Dilophosaurus and Nedry (2174053)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 4th, 2023 @ 4:44am CST
Yeah, you guys got an actual sale. If I'd have bought from .com, the shipping would have offset the sale and brought back the price to the 93$CAN "sale". Add the taxes, and the price would have been the same, total. Here at Amazon.ca, the set was 93$CAN plus taxes with free Prime shipping. Making it 53$CAN for each deluxes. That's 38$US a deluxe... ON SALE.
So, nope. That set is 115$CAN at full price. The SAME price as the BWBB 4 pack of one voyager and 3 deluxes!
When this latest JP set gets marked down at 70$CAN, meaning the genuine price of two deluxes, only then will I buy it. It will happen for sure. I'll just have to wait a wee bit more.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 4th, 2023 @ 4:44am CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Even at 30% off that set is still WAY, WAY too expensive.
For us in the US, 30% off is $52, which is 2 deluxes, which is what these are. The price at 30% is in fact right.
And, these are good deluxes too
Yeah, you guys got an actual sale. If I'd have bought from .com, the shipping would have offset the sale and brought back the price to the 93$CAN "sale". Add the taxes, and the price would have been the same, total. Here at Amazon.ca, the set was 93$CAN plus taxes with free Prime shipping. Making it 53$CAN for each deluxes. That's 38$US a deluxe... ON SALE.
So, nope. That set is 115$CAN at full price. The SAME price as the BWBB 4 pack of one voyager and 3 deluxes!
When this latest JP set gets marked down at 70$CAN, meaning the genuine price of two deluxes, only then will I buy it. It will happen for sure. I'll just have to wait a wee bit more.
