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Posted by Noideaforaname on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:04pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:15pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.
For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.
Posted by Seibertron on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:31pm CDT
RAcast wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.
For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.
I've seen Noideaforaname's comments stated elsewhere by other members. I'm assuming it's because Skywarp and Thundercracker have no fictional portrayal in the Transformers Prime cartoons or comics so they seem very much like repaints of Starscream. Had Skywarp and Thundercracker been portrayed in the cartoon from the beginning, people would be more accepting of them. I'm really surprised they were neglected in Prime and in the live action movies. It seems like including those two characters would make a lot of fans happy and provide a way for them to save some costs with CGI. I'm glad they didn't cheap out by replacing Dreadwing and/or Skyquake with Skywarp and Thundercracker, but I've always thought those two would've been great secondary characters to have in the live action films such as Jolt, Sideswipe (who didn't really shine until DOTM), etc.
Posted by RAcast on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:39pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:RAcast wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:I don't think any of those repaints manage to look like someone other than Starscream. He's just too distinctive.
For curiosity's sake, what makes a standard Seeker trio "distictive" for you? I mean, they're always just blue-and-red Starscream and black-and-purple Starscream. If anything, I feel like this is the best Seeker design since G1, all proper and scheme-y and eyebrow-y.
I've seen Noideaforaname's comments stated elsewhere by other members. I'm assuming it's because Skywarp and Thundercracker have no fictional portrayal in the Transformers Prime cartoons or comics so they seem very much like repaints of Starscream. Had Skywarp and Thundercracker been portrayed in the cartoon from the beginning, people would be more accepting of them. I'm really surprised they were neglected in Prime and in the live action movies. It seems like including those two characters would make a lot of fans happy and provide a way for them to save some costs with CGI. I'm glad they didn't cheap out by replacing Dreadwing and/or Skyquake with Skywarp and Thundercracker, but I've always thought those two would've been great secondary characters to have in the live action films such as Jolt, Sideswipe (who didn't really shine until DOTM), etc.
That's pretty much what I was expecting, and I agree to a point, but the design behind Prime Starscream just feels right to me, if that makes sense. It's a shame they didn't have Skywarp and Thundercracker show up in any real way, but oh well, missed opportunities and such.
Posted by Mindmaster on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:42pm CDT
Call me insane, but I kinda want to see them tackle Acid Storm from this mold. I happen to like camo patterns very much.
Posted by xyl360 on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:50pm CDT
I just can't really see that mold as anyone else unless TC and SW had been recolored clones or something (as in the episode where he created clones of himself using protoforms). But as just generic seeker Decepticons who happen to share the same form as him (a-la G1), it just doesn't work. At least not for me.
Posted by Agamemnon on September 7th, 2013 @ 11:56pm CDT
Personally, I'd just like to see domestic releases of all three characters rather than having to spring for expensive imports. I'd even be happy with straight-up repaints at that point. (Prime makeovers of the coneheads might've been cool too from both the show and toys. Instead we get drones that are winged cars, and a silver general winged car drone...)
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 8th, 2013 @ 12:02am CDT
Prime Starscream, however, was definitely designed to be a scheming, aloof, not-really-a-direct-fighter; in other words, Starscream specifically. I have a hard time seeing Skywarp or Thundercracker, instead I'm just seeing "the schemer" in different colors.
'Course, if the Seeker Trio were introduced all at once this way in the cartoon I suppose I'd have a different opinion, but that didn't happen and Starscream went on to become on of the best Starscreams ever (the "definitive" one, I'd say, at least in Season 1) so simply recoloring his toy (or creating a new head that doesn't really look all that different save for the lack of crest and added lipstick) doesn't work for me.
Posted by megatronus on September 8th, 2013 @ 9:43am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Or, y'know, it would be nice to have a face that isn't just another Starscream smirk...
Personally, I'd just like to see domestic releases of all three characters rather than having to spring for expensive imports. I'd even be happy with straight-up repaints at that point. (Prime makeovers of the coneheads might've been cool too from both the show and toys. Instead we get drones that are winged cars, and a silver general winged car drone...)
The Dark Energon Starscream is an easy replacement option for imported Skywarp. He looks great, and the clear parts arguably make him even more Skywarp-y (a la Machine Wars).
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 8th, 2013 @ 11:23am CDT
Or maybe it's still just too hard to accept those stiletto-heels as standard issue for a body template.
Except for Slipstream, of course. She's the only redeco I've got so far, and while the others would be nice, I'm in no rush.
Posted by Joetx on September 8th, 2013 @ 1:35pm CDT
And, in the same pic, I guess the one on the top left is the Japanese version of Starscream?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 8th, 2013 @ 1:39pm CDT
Joetx wrote:In the second pic, who is the one on the far right?
And, in the same pic, I guess the one on the top left is the Japanese version of Starscream?
The one on the far right is Entertainment Pack Starscream. He was seemingly released only in Europe.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on September 8th, 2013 @ 2:48pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on September 8th, 2013 @ 2:53pm CDT
(1) Only Starscream is represented in the show
(2) Starscream's character model is an embodiment of his personality
Thus, the mold will forever scream (pun intended) Starscream, regardless of what character he is nominally repainted to be.
Posted by Mindmaster on September 14th, 2013 @ 11:27pm CDT
First Edition Megatron
Transformers Prime: First Edition Cliffjumper
First Edition Arcee
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on September 15th, 2013 @ 6:41am CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 15th, 2013 @ 10:36am CDT
Posted by hinomars19 on September 15th, 2013 @ 3:03pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Is it me, or do the toys never quite capture Megatron's head right? Like, the shape is all off, or maybe it's painted the wrong colors. Silver definitely does NOT capture that distinct rottenness of Meg's face.
Lack of a darker colour on the face is doing that, me thinks.
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 15th, 2013 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on September 15th, 2013 @ 4:22pm CDT
Honestly, they should have just upsized this mold, with his proper arm cannon, and I would have been ecstatic.
Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm - allegedly the best deco of the Voyager Megatron mold - is somewhat of a let down.
Sigh.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 15th, 2013 @ 4:26pm CDT
We still don't know who's arm that was.megatronus wrote:Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm
Posted by megatronus on September 15th, 2013 @ 4:33pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:We still don't know who's arm that was.megatronus wrote:Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm
That's not going to stop me from assuming
Posted by Nest Max on September 16th, 2013 @ 11:04am CDT
Posted by Hypershock on September 16th, 2013 @ 12:59pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 16th, 2013 @ 1:49pm CDT
Hypershock wrote:Where is that megatron packaging from? Japan? cuz i thought the FE deluxe megatron only came in that entertainment pack
TakaraTomy released FE Megatron stand-alone. Japan never got the Entertainment Pack, but they still got the Deluxe Optimus as an exclusive later in Arms Micron.
Posted by xyl360 on September 17th, 2013 @ 12:09am CDT
megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:We still don't know who's arm that was.megatronus wrote:Even having the Final Battle Megatron with the Zeta Prime arm
That's not going to stop me from assuming
Oh come on guys, everyone knows it was G1 Optimus Prime's arm. That damn thing always broke off . At least mine did when I was a kid and I had to keep gluing it back.
Anyway, I'm glad to see the rest of the FEs finally get the gallery treatment. You know I'm a sucker for variants Ryan and I'd much rather use your site (and far superior images) as a reference than that other TFU site when looking up comparisons and variants .
Posted by Va'al on September 21st, 2013 @ 1:15pm CDT
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Comic-Con Exclusives Rust In Peace Cliffjumper
EZ Collection Terrorcon Cliffjumper (EZ-SP2)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 21st, 2013 @ 10:38pm CDT
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Posted by Mkall on September 22nd, 2013 @ 12:35am CDT
Posted by Va'al on September 22nd, 2013 @ 5:25am CDT
As for the Cliffjumpers: dayum. I now feel like I need to own the RIP version. It just looks.. right? It must be because of the poses in the gallery. Nice work Ryan, again!
Posted by Seibertron on September 22nd, 2013 @ 10:47am CDT
Va'al wrote:The blue is surprisingly appealing! Makes the rest of the paint apps on the regular version look as bare as they actually are.
As for the Cliffjumpers: dayum. I now feel like I need to own the RIP version. It just looks.. right? It must be because of the poses in the gallery. Nice work Ryan, again!
Thanks Va'al. I had a lot of fun with the various Terrorcon Cliffjumpers. Some of my favorite "Zombie" poses are where he's intentionally mistransformed. The idea is that his body is falling apart or that he can't fully transform into robot mode or something like that.
Posted by Seibertron on September 22nd, 2013 @ 10:57am CDT
Mkall wrote:Ya know what? I'm kinda liking this. I never got a Cryotek so I may just have to get this guy.
Pulling out Cryotek for a cameo appearance in Cryofire Predaking's gallery gave me a new appreciation for the Beast Wars Transmetal 2 Dragon Megatron mold. It had been a while since I last handled that mold. It's pretty impressive for a 14 year old Transformers mold.
I also gained some new appreciation for the Cryotek after watching this video:
I only did the part that swaps around the lever on his back since just that little change made such an improvement on the toy.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 22nd, 2013 @ 11:04am CDT
Posted by Va'al on September 22nd, 2013 @ 11:06am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Va'al wrote:The blue is surprisingly appealing! Makes the rest of the paint apps on the regular version look as bare as they actually are.
As for the Cliffjumpers: dayum. I now feel like I need to own the RIP version. It just looks.. right? It must be because of the poses in the gallery. Nice work Ryan, again!
Thanks Va'al. I had a lot of fun with the various Terrorcon Cliffjumpers. Some of my favorite "Zombie" poses are where he's intentionally mistransformed. The idea is that his body is falling apart or that he can't fully transform into robot mode or something like that.
Yeah, I loved those poses!
Posted by Seibertron on September 22nd, 2013 @ 11:19am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Adding Cryifire Predaking is a must! I already have RiD Cryotek and Cybertron Cryo Scourge, it's like they were meant to be the one and the same (aside from the symbols that is). It is a bit weird he shares the ice element with Skystalker, but eh, what can ya do?
Man I totally forgot about Cryo Scourge! I should have included him in this gallery as well.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 22nd, 2013 @ 2:42pm CDT
Methinks this calls for an addendum!Seibertron wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Adding Cryifire Predaking is a must! I already have RiD Cryotek and Cybertron Cryo Scourge, it's like they were meant to be the one and the same (aside from the symbols that is). It is a bit weird he shares the ice element with Skystalker, but eh, what can ya do?
Man I totally forgot about Cryo Scourge! I should have included him in this gallery as well.
Posted by Henry921 on September 22nd, 2013 @ 6:55pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Methinks this calls for an addendum!Seibertron wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Adding Cryifire Predaking is a must! I already have RiD Cryotek and Cybertron Cryo Scourge, it's like they were meant to be the one and the same (aside from the symbols that is). It is a bit weird he shares the ice element with Skystalker, but eh, what can ya do?
Man I totally forgot about Cryo Scourge! I should have included him in this gallery as well.
YOU'RE MAD, SABRBLADE!
Seibertron has so many more photo galleries to attend to! Think of all the BotCon 2013 figures!
Not to mention Darksteel and SkyLynx, whom I suspect will be next, given their early bird cameos.
Posted by Seibertron on September 22nd, 2013 @ 7:20pm CDT
Henry921 wrote:Seibertron has so many more photo galleries to attend to! Think of all the BotCon 2013 figures!
Man I can't wait to get to those ... but they're taking a back seat until after my big Masterpiece gallery push once Prowl arrives.
Henry921 wrote:Not to mention Darksteel and SkyLynx, whom I suspect will be next, given their early bird cameos.
It's like you're reading my mind! I just completed the galleries for Darksteel and Skylynx about 30 minutes ago. I started their galleries way back at the beginning of August but haven't been able to finish them until now. I was going to wait until I got Judora to finish their galleries but decided to finish them up tonight after finishing Cryofire Predaking's gallery yesterday and needing to use them in his gallery.
Currently, I'm photographing the rest of the Dark Energon figures that need to be completed so that I can put up those 6 galleries at last.
Posted by Henry921 on September 22nd, 2013 @ 7:24pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Henry921 wrote:Seibertron has so many more photo galleries to attend to! Think of all the BotCon 2013 figures!
Man I can't wait to get to those ... but they're taking a back seat until after my big Masterpiece gallery push once Prowl arrives.
Just Prowl? Or Smokescreen and Bluestreak too?
Seibertron wrote:Henry921 wrote:Not to mention Darksteel and SkyLynx, whom I suspect will be next, given their early bird cameos.
It's like you're reading my mind! I just completed the galleries for Darksteel and Skylynx about 30 minutes ago. I started their galleries way back at the beginning of August but haven't been able to finish them until now. I was going to wait until I got Judora to finish their galleries but decided to finish them up tonight after finishing Cryofire Predaking's gallery yesterday and needing to use them in his gallery.
Currently, I'm photographing the rest of the Dark Energon figures that need to be completed so that I can put up those 6 galleries at last.
Man, the size of that Predacon army will be a thing of beauty...
Posted by Seibertron on September 22nd, 2013 @ 7:55pm CDT
Henry921 wrote:Just Prowl? Or Smokescreen and Bluestreak too?
Prowl comes out this month followed by Bluestreak next month and Smokescreen in December. For the sake of size comparison, I think it will be best to do the bulk of the Masterpiece galleries with Prowl since I haven't done any Masterpiece galleries since MP-11 Starscream. Bluestreak and Smokescreen will get the usual repaint/remold treatment and just have comparisons with Prowl and some Autobot group shots ... maybe a few shots battling Decepticons depending on time.
Henry921 wrote:Man, the size of that Predacon army will be a thing of beauty...
I'll try to do a group shot with ALL of the Hasbro and Takara Tomy Predacons toward the end of the releases. It's too tough to do them all for each gallery. Budora and Cryofire Predaking didn't make the cut for the group shot photos that you'll see in Skylynx and Darksteel's galleries (similar shots to what were in the other Japanese Predacons galleries).
Posted by Va'al on September 27th, 2013 @ 3:47am CDT
Transformers Go! Budora
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2013 @ 7:03am CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on September 27th, 2013 @ 9:33am CDT
I like Budora's beast mode head more than GrimWing/DarkSteel's.
Posted by gothsaurus on September 27th, 2013 @ 10:07am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Four Oni are almost complete. Three down, one effeminate psycho to go.
They're making a figure of my ex girlfriend?
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2013 @ 11:40am CDT
Strange taste in men.gothsaurus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The Four Oni are almost complete. Three down, one effeminate psycho to go.
They're making a figure of my ex girlfriend?
Posted by Sodan-1 on September 27th, 2013 @ 12:28pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 27th, 2013 @ 12:42pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Four Oni are almost complete. Three down, one effeminate psycho to go.
Who are you calling an effeminate psycho?! O wait, it's Judora... never mind...
Posted by Seibertron on September 27th, 2013 @ 2:07pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The Four Oni are almost complete. Three down, one effeminate psycho to go.
Who are you calling an effeminate psycho?! O wait, it's Judora... never mind...
I've got Judora on the way. I should have him early next week. I'll do my best to get his gallery up ASAP for all of you.
Posted by Emerje on September 27th, 2013 @ 8:44pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:I like Budora's beast mode head more than GrimWing/DarkSteel's.
I'm the other way. I like the Hasbro griffon head better. The Takara version is basically a flamingo with tusks. Really hate the down-turned bottom jaw.
The bot head is really nice and I like the mold overall. I've heard people complain that it felt cheap and hollow, but I don't think it feels bad at all. My only major complaint is the lack of wing articulation, real shame they wasted the joint on the spikes.
A friend that owed me money picked up and is holding onto Grimwing for me and I plan on getting Darksteel, too. I love beast Transformers so both Go! and Beast Hunters are really fun for me.
Oh, just noticed the gallery doesn't have any shots of him with his shoulder weapons out. Probably a lot of people don't even know about them, they aren't on the box, just in the instructions (which I don't normally use, but I was trying to figure out if there was a release for the hips or if it was all friction).
Emerje
Posted by Va'al on September 30th, 2013 @ 4:45am CDT
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