More to Come from the Transformer Generations War for Cybertron Trilogy Galactic Odyssey Collection
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Hello fellow Seibertronians! You may recall that we posted a news story recently about the Ratchet and Lifeline 2-Pack, available to pre-order from Amazon.com under the title of "Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Trilogy Galactic Odyssey Collection Paradron Medic 2-Pack," due to release on December 1, 2020. Many of you noticed in the product images that the inside of the box features not only a map depicting Paradron, but four other planets as well. Now we know for certain why. Forum member Sabrblade has brought it to our attention that Amazon has updated their listing for the Paradron Medic 2-Pack. Apparently, this is but "Encounter 1" in the Autobots' adventure in traveling from Cybertron to Earth in this second leg of the War for Cybertron Trilogy! We can expect four more encounters to come, including (in order): Micron, Biosfera, Dominus, and Botropolis! We don't know yet what figures will be included with each set, but, according to a countdown on this hub page for the Galactic Odyssey Collection, also found on Amazon.com, we can expect to know who will be in the Micron Encounter set in 29 days, as of the publishing of this news article!
Are you excited for these upcoming box sets? What figures do you think might be included? Do you have any more clues to uncover from the Paradon Medic 2-Pack listing? Let us know your thoughts in the discussion forums, and as always, stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!
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Posted by Master Farr 1 on August 30th, 2020 @ 9:33am CDT
Posted by Starseeker on August 30th, 2020 @ 12:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2020 @ 12:37pm CDT
It looks subtle enough to not evoke a dark commander type like Nemesis Prime or SG Optimus, but more like a middle-ranking officer in the Decepticon army who exists merely to mock the appearance of the Autobot Leader, adding insult to injury by stripping away any pretense of authority or power. A "Decepticon everyman", so to speak.
Posted by Deadput on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:24pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:OooOooooh, dark gray with bright blue, yellow, and silver makes for a nicely unique evil Optimus deco.
It looks subtle enough to not evoke a dark commander type like Nemesis Prime or SG Optimus, but more like a middle-ranking officer in the Decepticon army who exists merely to mock the appearance of the Autobot Leader, adding insult to injury by stripping away any pretense of authority or power. A "Decepticon everyman", so to speak.
So like...Nemesis Huffer?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:26pm CDT
Minus the stout puniness.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:OooOooooh, dark gray with bright blue, yellow, and silver makes for a nicely unique evil Optimus deco.
It looks subtle enough to not evoke a dark commander type like Nemesis Prime or SG Optimus, but more like a middle-ranking officer in the Decepticon army who exists merely to mock the appearance of the Autobot Leader, adding insult to injury by stripping away any pretense of authority or power. A "Decepticon everyman", so to speak.
So like...Nemesis Huffer?
Posted by Deadput on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:30pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Minus the stout puniness.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:OooOooooh, dark gray with bright blue, yellow, and silver makes for a nicely unique evil Optimus deco.
It looks subtle enough to not evoke a dark commander type like Nemesis Prime or SG Optimus, but more like a middle-ranking officer in the Decepticon army who exists merely to mock the appearance of the Autobot Leader, adding insult to injury by stripping away any pretense of authority or power. A "Decepticon everyman", so to speak.
So like...Nemesis Huffer?
Huffer's the King of the mini people indeed.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:36pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:38pm CDT
Unless it's like TF: Cybertron where they scanned Earth modes from data files ahead of their arrival on Earth.Rodimus Prime wrote:Well if they stop at Paradron before they ever get to Earth, Ratchet shouldn't have his Earth mode yet, should he?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:40pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well if they stop at Paradron before they ever get to Earth, Ratchet shouldn't have his Earth mode yet, should he?
Clearly that's a paradronian ambulance, sheesh, how could you not know that
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:45pm CDT
I stand corrected. I'm not an expert on all things Paradronian.Hellscream9999 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Well if they stop at Paradron before they ever get to Earth, Ratchet shouldn't have his Earth mode yet, should he?
Clearly that's a paradronian ambulance, sheesh, how could you not know that
As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:48pm CDT
Now that you mention it, the Netflix show never did give a timeframe for its setting, right?Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
Aw, who we kiddin'? We all know Hasbro just wanted to make G1 Earth Mode toys just cuz.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 30th, 2020 @ 1:52pm CDT
Yeah. The panels did try to pass it off as a prequel to G1 if I remember correctly.Sabrblade wrote:Now that you mention it, the Netflix show never did give a timeframe for its setting, right?Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
Just cuz they want to make money.Aw, who we kiddin'? We all know Hasbro just wanted to make G1 Earth Mode toys just cuz.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 30th, 2020 @ 2:20pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on August 30th, 2020 @ 2:21pm CDT
Posted by Starseeker on August 30th, 2020 @ 2:30pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:OooOooooh, dark gray with bright blue, yellow, and silver makes for a nicely unique evil Optimus deco.
It looks subtle enough to not evoke a dark commander type like Nemesis Prime or SG Optimus, but more like a middle-ranking officer in the Decepticon army who exists merely to mock the appearance of the Autobot Leader, adding insult to injury by stripping away any pretense of authority or power. A "Decepticon everyman", so to speak.
Yes! That is my thought too!
I'm looking forward to the side by side shot with the new Nemesis, whenever he comes out.
Dudes on the battlefield just to mess with the Autobots because we're Decepticons and we're sick like that.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 30th, 2020 @ 2:40pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 30th, 2020 @ 5:06pm CDT
Leader-1, Swindle, Crumplezone, and Blackout all seem doable.
Hauler, Sunstorm, or purple Soundwave seem possible, though I'd expect them as Selects.
Machine Wars Soundwave & Sandstorm, and Armada Wheeljack, seem inevitable.
Maybe Detritus from Hound, with a color coordinated Iron-Works?
Posted by sol magnus on August 30th, 2020 @ 5:09pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Looking forward to a Glyph and Tap-out two pack. For Micron, maybe recolors of WFC Micromasters as Armada Minicon partners?
Leader-1, Swindle, Crumplezone, and Demolisher's partner all seem doable.
Hauler, Sunstorm, or purple Soundwave seem possible, though I'd expect them as Selects.
Machine Wars Soundwave & Sandstorm, and Armada Wheeljack, seem inevitable.
Maybe Detritus from Hound, with a color coordinated Iron-Works?
I woke up last night thinking "I want a Glyph and Tapout set."
Posted by TulioDude on August 30th, 2020 @ 5:14pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 30th, 2020 @ 5:20pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Looking forward to a Glyph and Tap-out two pack. For Micron, maybe recolors of WFC Micromasters as Armada Minicon partners?
Leader-1, Swindle, Crumplezone, and Demolisher's partner all seem doable.
Demolishor's partner's called Blackout.
Don't forget we have at least one Armada-inspired team. The Air Strike Patrol is directly based on the Air Defense Mini-Con Team sans Sonar, heck, Storm Cloud largely reuses Jetstorm's transformation.
Posted by JomasterII on August 30th, 2020 @ 5:51pm CDT
...yeah, that's sadly pretty unrealistic but that's all I can think of that would be thematically relevant.
Makes more sense than Hauler-Bot and Beast-Bot, at least...
Posted by Deadput on August 30th, 2020 @ 9:48pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
I would love to see this for once.
If I could go back in time and change 1 "minor" thing in Transformers it would be to scrub the "million year war" aspect from history, it doesn't work and never has.
A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are and if so how do Transformers stay active for so long yet are still fighting for resources and draining them, I doubt the Transformers would have as much personality due to being so old and it honestly does not jive when it comes to specific characters like:
"Here's Bumblebee he's the young one, except he's millions of years old and yet doesn't grow as a character until he suddenly does within a short time on Earth)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2020 @ 10:00pm CDT
GoBots did it back in 1984.Deadput wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
I would love to see this for once.
Posted by Deadput on August 30th, 2020 @ 10:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:GoBots did it back in 1984.Deadput wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
I would love to see this for once.
What's a Gobot?
Posted by sol magnus on August 30th, 2020 @ 10:20pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:GoBots did it back in 1984.Deadput wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
I would love to see this for once.
What's a Gobot?
The Bay movies don't take place over millions of years, just thousands.
In terms of G1, the ark has to be older than the mountain, they go over that sort of in Microbots.
Beast Wars actually makes everything crazy because everything comes from different eras.
I guess all I'm saying is it's best not to over-think it.
Posted by Ultra Mad on August 30th, 2020 @ 10:34pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 30th, 2020 @ 10:36pm CDT
Ultra Mad wrote:Am I the only one really wishing a Glyph and a Tap-Out?
Not even close.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 30th, 2020 @ 10:54pm CDT
Deadput wrote:A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are
Are they advanced, though?
Yeah, they got super computers and energy constructs... Which they use to make medieval weapons for dramatic 1v1 duels between their leaders. It's a civil war being fought within a society where everyone is almost impossible to (permanently) kill, half the soldiers still use swords, WMDs are comically impractical,
the best strategic weapons consists of five or six soldiers engaging in a vertical gymnastic orgy, and the most efficient way to defeat an enemy is by literally chewing him up.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 30th, 2020 @ 11:22pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Deadput wrote:A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are
Are they advanced, though?
Yeah, they got super computers and energy constructs... Which they use to make medieval weapons for dramatic 1v1 duels between their leaders. It's a civil war being fought within a society where everyone is almost impossible to (permanently) kill, half the soldiers still use swords, WMDs are comically impractical,
the best strategic weapons consists of five or six soldiers engaging in a vertical gymnastic orgy, and the most efficient way to defeat an enemy is by literally chewing him up.
A war or conflict can officially last as long as it wants to with periods of peace, until a peace treaty has been signed by all parties involved (the Pax Cybertronia). On Earth we've had a war lasting 80 years, and another that lasted 100 years to give some perspective on how wars can be longer than a person's lifespan. Also, even tho the Korean War "ended" in 1953 in an armistice, a peace treaty was never signed by either country so officially they're still at war.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 30th, 2020 @ 11:47pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Deadput wrote:A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are
Are they advanced, though?
Yeah, they got super computers and energy constructs... Which they use to make medieval weapons for dramatic 1v1 duels between their leaders. It's a civil war being fought within a society where everyone is almost impossible to (permanently) kill, half the soldiers still use swords, WMDs are comically impractical,
the best strategic weapons consists of five or six soldiers engaging in a vertical gymnastic orgy, and the most efficient way to defeat an enemy is by literally chewing him up.
A war or conflict can officially last as long as it wants to with periods of peace, until a peace treaty has been signed by all parties involved (the Pax Cybertronia). On Earth we've had a war lasting 80 years, and another that lasted 100 years to give some perspective on how wars can be longer than a person's lifespan. Also, even tho the Korean War "ended" in 1953 in an armistice, a peace treaty was never signed by either country so officially they're still at war.
I actually had a fun idea for a fanfic that would have revolved around the war being interrupted by lengthy shutdowns where the whole race was forced into an involuntary sleep mode state for various updates, etc, with the Ark's crash coinciding with the beginning of the most recent shutdown.
The Halo universe's saga about the Forerunner and the ancient human empire would have all taken place during said shutdown, the Forerunner developing all of their super-advanced amazing technology by looting Cybertronian territories while the ancient war machines were deactivated.
Probably dumb but it created a premise in my mind for Devastator to punch a Covenant Scarab.
But I digress.
Retool Impactor & Flak => Demolisher & Blackout
Retool Spinister & Bombshock => Cyclonus & Crumplezone
Retool Thrust & Growl => Thrust & Incinerator
Posted by Deadput on August 31st, 2020 @ 12:19am CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Deadput wrote:A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are
Are they advanced, though?
Hence the quotations
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on August 31st, 2020 @ 12:35am CDT
Posted by Deadput on August 31st, 2020 @ 12:40am CDT
Regardless even with the Ark/Nemesis crew crashing in some continuities there's still everyone else on Cybertron, it just paints whoever is left there as incompetent.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on August 31st, 2020 @ 12:44am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Wait... Was the war going for millions of years prior to them crashing on Earth? Cause I always thought it would have been going for like 100 years (which given their longer lifespans would be like 10 or so years I think?) and then they crashed on Earth, and they just added the time in stasis lock for dramatic effect/lack of actual treaty during their time in stasis
In the Season 2 episode War Dawn, it was established that Orion Pax was remade into Optimus around the same time the war started, both happening about 9 million years before the current day of the cartoon. So with the Autobots leaving Cybertron 4 million years before the current day, that means the war had already been raging for 5 million years.
Posted by Flashwave on August 31st, 2020 @ 12:54am CDT
Deadput wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the Cybertron analogy, that would mean the WFC events are taking place in present time, not "millions of years ago" like in a lot of other continuities.
I would love to see this for once.
If I could go back in time and change 1 "minor" thing in Transformers it would be to scrub the "million year war" aspect from history, it doesn't work and never has.
A war wouldn't last that long realistically even stretching it for a fictional franchise a million year war does not sound possible when it comes to how "advance" the Transformers are and if so how do Transformers stay active for so long yet are still fighting for resources and draining them, I doubt the Transformers would have as much personality due to being so old and it honestly does not jive when it comes to specific characters like:
"Here's Bumblebee he's the young one, except he's millions of years old and yet doesn't grow as a character until he suddenly does within a short time on Earth)
I think it helps to remember that the War is a Cold War.
In most G1, the War was either dormant or flat out over (Dreamworks) for most of the 4 million Years or whatever that Prime and Megatron are asleep. We don't always know what Shockwave was up to on Cybertron, but it didnt seem to be the heat of battle. And in the aforementioned Dreamworks, Peace was established until Prime and Megatron woke up and started fighting again.
Even in the more modern takes, the fighting seems to be hit and run skirmishes and guerrilla tactics not direct hot conflict. If these guys are wandering around SPACE, well Space is huge so the odds of even SEEING another Cybertronian ship is probably cause for celebration, even if it is the enemy. And, we know these guys are effectively immortal, so not only is actually killing a Cybertronian difficult, but the passage of time is effectively meaningless to them; do we know they hsve FTL travel or are they all out there zooming around in Space at more conventional speeds? Spaced out battlefields and slow, infrequent encounters could lead to a long war
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 31st, 2020 @ 4:46am CDT
There's also all that time relativity that come with space travel. So with some technobabble, it's possible that the Ark actually flew through time and went to the past while going faster than light. So the Ark went millions of years into the past then crashed.
Eh, same thing did happen with Beast Wars.
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 31st, 2020 @ 7:15am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 31st, 2020 @ 8:18am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 31st, 2020 @ 9:15am CDT
-Paradron: self explanatory
-Micron: Micromaster 10-pack Part II
-Botropolis: Go-Bots (Playskool Gobots)
-Dominus: "Planet Master", headmaster/battlemaster set?
-Biosfera: "Biosphere", planet of beasts
Posted by sol magnus on August 31st, 2020 @ 9:33am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thoughts on the planets:
-Paradron: self explanatory
-Micron: Micromaster 10-pack Part II
-Botropolis: Go-Bots (Playskool Gobots)
-Dominus: "Planet Master", headmaster/battlemaster set?
-Biosfera: "Biosphere", planet of beasts
I think I can't co-sign the playskool Gobots. There's been nothing to tie that into WFC (unless you mean "Generationsized" Gobots and not actual playskool Gobots).
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 31st, 2020 @ 9:38am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 31st, 2020 @ 10:15am CDT
Considering that this is a Generations toyline subseries of mold redecos/retools, it would be bafflingly bonkers if D-Maximal Primal literally meant Hasbro picking out 16-18-year-old Playskool molds for a collector-oriented line, and not more obviously just taking existing Earthrise molds and redecoing them in homage of the Playskool Go-Bots.sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thoughts on the planets:
-Paradron: self explanatory
-Micron: Micromaster 10-pack Part II
-Botropolis: Go-Bots (Playskool Gobots)
-Dominus: "Planet Master", headmaster/battlemaster set?
-Biosfera: "Biosphere", planet of beasts
I think I can't co-sign the playskool Gobots. There's been nothing to tie that into WFC (unless you mean "Generationsized" Gobots and not actual playskool Gobots).
Posted by sol magnus on August 31st, 2020 @ 10:20am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The thing about the "millions of years of war" that's made really dumb is how the Autobots and Decepticons exist for all that time with very little change happening, and then along comes the Beast Era and BOOM, we got Maximals and Predacons running the place with little-to-no sign or trace of any Autobots or Decepticons even existing anymore, gone from the public society and faded into the stuff of myth and legend as the Maximals and Predacons' "ancient ancestors"... only after a measly three centuries pass.Considering that this is a Generations toyline subseries of mold redecos/retools, it would be bafflingly bonkers if D-Maximal Primal literally meant Hasbro picking out 16-18-year-old Playskool molds for a collector-oriented line, and not more obviously just taking existing Earthrise molds and redecoing them in homage of the Playskool Go-Bots.sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thoughts on the planets:
-Paradron: self explanatory
-Micron: Micromaster 10-pack Part II
-Botropolis: Go-Bots (Playskool Gobots)
-Dominus: "Planet Master", headmaster/battlemaster set?
-Biosfera: "Biosphere", planet of beasts
I think I can't co-sign the playskool Gobots. There's been nothing to tie that into WFC (unless you mean "Generationsized" Gobots and not actual playskool Gobots).
True. I still think it's kind of a long shot even at that. But, I'm down for whatever.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 31st, 2020 @ 10:22am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 31st, 2020 @ 10:24am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Point is that whatever it is will be Generations line molds.
Yes. I didn't miss the point. I'm down for whatever it is.
Posted by Flashwave on August 31st, 2020 @ 10:53am CDT
I forgot about that. The distance travelled through dpace is shorter and therefore takes less time than going the long way round or something. So time on the ark might have been less than time aroumd it or some such. Einstein makes my head hurt-Kanrabat- wrote:Not only that but I think time did flow differently on Cybertron and Earth. A day on Cybertron could very well be just an hour on Earth and a year just a month.
There's also all that time relativity that come with space travel. So with some technobabble, it's possible that the Ark actually flew through time and went to the past while going faster than light. So the Ark went millions of years into the past then crashed.
Eh, same thing did happen with Beast Wars.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 31st, 2020 @ 10:53am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The thing about the "millions of years of war" that's made really dumb is how the Autobots and Decepticons exist for all that time with very little change happening, and then along comes the Beast Era and BOOM, we got Maximals and Predacons running the place with little-to-no sign or trace of any Autobots or Decepticons even existing anymore, gone from the public society and faded into the stuff of myth and legend as the Maximals and Predacons' "ancient ancestors"... only after a measly three centuries pass.
This is also something that bothers me. The millions of years thing is insane for a conflict, unless 99.9999% of it is cold war styled instead of active war. It's why I'm glad things like Prime and the movies didn't go this route, while it is the one thing annoying me about Cyberverse since they imply a 66 million year gap from crashing to awakening.
It gets bonkers.
Speaking of which:
Sabrblade wrote:bafflingly bonkers.....D-Maximal Primalsol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thoughts on the planets:
-Paradron: self explanatory
-Micron: Micromaster 10-pack Part II
-Botropolis: Go-Bots (Playskool Gobots)
-Dominus: "Planet Master", headmaster/battlemaster set?
-Biosfera: "Biosphere", planet of beasts
I think I can't co-sign the playskool Gobots. There's been nothing to tie that into WFC (unless you mean "Generationsized" Gobots and not actual playskool Gobots).
You should know that by now
but yes I did mean playskool gobot repaints of new generations molds. I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested
....twice
Posted by Flashwave on August 31st, 2020 @ 10:58am CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Looking forward to a Glyph and Tap-out two pack. For Micron, maybe recolors of WFC Micromasters as Armada Minicon partners?
Leader-1, Swindle, Crumplezone, and Demolisher's partner all seem doable.
Demolishor's partner's called Blackout.
Don't forget we have at least one Armada-inspired team. The Air Strike Patrol is directly based on the Air Defense Mini-Con Team sans Sonar, heck, Storm Cloud largely reuses Jetstorm's transformation.
You know who would make a GREAT Demolishor? Fasttrack. He's got the right vehicle mode silohuette with the turret and forward guns and the bot mode has the guns sticking up on hos shoulders. I would buy that
Posted by sol magnus on August 31st, 2020 @ 11:51am CDT
I'll do in hand pics tonight when I've gotten him in my greasy little hands.
Posted by WiseMan on August 31st, 2020 @ 12:27pm CDT
JomasterII wrote:Makes more sense than Hauler-Bot and Beast-Bot, at least...
If it really is Go-Bots from Botropolis I will buy the snot out of these.