More Images of MP-46 Blackarachnia Showing the Spider Correctly Transformed at Multiple Angles
Sunday, October 27th, 2019 1:09PM CDT
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Here are all the images we have from the event so far. Some coming from Andrew, who sent them in, and others found on the Planet Iacon Facebook page.
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Posted by Seibertron on October 27th, 2019 @ 2:20pm CDT
In this picture, it looks like her spider mode could potentially be a Titan Class Headmaster. I can't unsee it!
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 27th, 2019 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 27th, 2019 @ 3:16pm CDT
One of the mode must make some compromises to accommodate the other and it's normal that here, it's the bot who won.
Posted by aronjlove on October 27th, 2019 @ 3:41pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Thank you for this GIF! I see some mass-shifting shenanigans going on with her "hands" as they become the spider-mode's mandibles. I've started watching Beast Wars again and I've never noticed this during the show.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 27th, 2019 @ 4:50pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 27th, 2019 @ 5:03pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:She'll be going into bot mode rather quickly when I get her. And honestly, considering the cheats BW did? Spider-mode looks about as good as we'll get.
"Cheats" is an understatement.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 27th, 2019 @ 8:18pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 27th, 2019 @ 9:09pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
Thank you for this GIF! I see some mass-shifting shenanigans going on with her "hands" as they become the spider-mode's mandibles. I've started watching Beast Wars again and I've never noticed this during the show.
and the abdomen seem to pop out of nowhere going into spider mode
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 27th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 28th, 2019 @ 8:46am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:She'll be going into bot mode rather quickly when I get her. And honestly, considering the cheats BW did? Spider-mode looks about as good as we'll get.
"Cheats" is an understatement.
It was the best word to come to mind at the moment, but yeah. There's some serious reality-warping with Blackarachnia in the show.
Posted by haldand on October 28th, 2019 @ 10:59am CDT
In my humble opinion, it is better to just focus on making a good toy with good articulation and a good transformation, and let the show focus on being the show.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2019 @ 11:02am CDT
Posted by aronjlove on October 28th, 2019 @ 11:27am CDT
haldand wrote:I see a lot of comments about mass shifting or reality warping... and that is exactly why I tend to dislike the toys that make an extreme effort to be "show accurate". Something gets sacrificed somewhere to pull it off, from fake wheels and pretend windshields to overly complicated (and often therefore fragile) transformations, we usually end up with a less than perfect toy. Often one mode looks great, while the other is less so.
In my humble opinion, it is better to just focus on making a good toy with good articulation and a good transformation, and let the show focus on being the show.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force
I think a combination of both of your ideas. These are toys and ultimately going to be purchased by kids as well so the 'toy' component or 'fun' factor should be the primary concern above accuracy. And if the cartoons are still to be used as commercials for the toys then the developers of the toon should work hand in hand with the toy developers so accuracy is a given.
That being said, this Blackarachnia (Blackwidow) looks pretty amazeballs all things considered.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 28th, 2019 @ 11:43am CDT
Alternately:-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force
Posted by BluePhirePB on October 28th, 2019 @ 1:11pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2019 @ 2:01pm CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did a pretty good job for beast mode and amazing for bot mode!
I agree 100%.
Posted by william-james88 on October 28th, 2019 @ 5:05pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I'd have to see comparison pics to when it was mistransformed, but it still looks pretty rough to me in spider mode. The robot mode look insanely amazing, but at the cost of making the beast mode look pretty bad.
In this picture, it looks like her spider mode could potentially be a Titan Class Headmaster. I can't unsee it!
Here are pics of it not being properly put together in beast mode. You can see the back of the spider just panels hanging loose.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... led/43292/
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2019 @ 10:16pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 29th, 2019 @ 9:20am CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did a pretty good job for beast mode and amazing for bot mode!
Thirded. It's really a damned good toy overall. I can't wait to get her in-hand.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 29th, 2019 @ 11:00am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Alternately:-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force
From what angle?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 29th, 2019 @ 11:46am CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
Posted by Mykltron on October 29th, 2019 @ 3:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:our best look yet at the spider beast mode, especially the back, so you can see how clean it can be when transformed properly.
Yes indeed: not clean at all.
Posted by BluePhirePB on October 30th, 2019 @ 1:56pm CDT
Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
Posted by haldand on October 30th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
Posted by Sabrblade on October 30th, 2019 @ 2:18pm CDT
I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.haldand wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 30th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.
Indeed. As much as I'd love to see TM Rhinox or Cybershark (in any form) in the MP line, it is extremely doubtful.
BluePhirePB wrote:Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.
Rumoured to be Rattrap next.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 30th, 2019 @ 5:17pm CDT
Gelshark, however, would have a decent chance, but probably not for a good number of years (or via a fan-determined event like the poll that brought about Star Saber).AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.
Indeed. As much as I'd love to see TM Rhinox or Cybershark (in any form) in the MP line, it is extremely doubtful.
While never called a Transmetal, Gelshark and the other four Destrongers were initially marketed as a breed of Predacon called "Metal Beasts".
Posted by william-james88 on October 30th, 2019 @ 6:15pm CDT
haldand wrote:I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
You wont see that within the next decade.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:07pm CST
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 12th, 2019 @ 4:22am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:07am CST
Original image of Spider mode
Spider mode properly transformed in the back
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:15am CST
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:50am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Man I can’t wait to have this!
Same. She is looking really good!
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 12th, 2019 @ 1:18pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 12th, 2019 @ 6:32pm CST
Excited to bet both of mine. She looks fantastic
Posted by joevill on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:43pm CST
Posted by MadProject on November 13th, 2019 @ 10:49am CST
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Hopefully there aren't any problems like BW Megatron's crotch. Although I have no interest in getting this (financially) i do hope those that do get her are happy.
I starting to have the feeling that was an issue of the first batches. I got mine last month, transformed him several times to check that problem and so far (just some attention in handling the crotch section) everything is fine.
Posted by BluePhirePB on November 13th, 2019 @ 10:53am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 13th, 2019 @ 11:14am CST
MadProject wrote:Decepticon Stryker wrote:Hopefully there aren't any problems like BW Megatron's crotch. Although I have no interest in getting this (financially) i do hope those that do get her are happy.
I starting to have the feeling that was an issue of the first batches. I got mine last month, transformed him several times to check that problem and so far (just some attention in handling the crotch section) everything is fine.
I got my MP-43 pretty early on and everything is still good.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 14th, 2019 @ 8:53am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I got my MP-43 pretty early on and everything is still good.
Same. As I said at the time, that ultra tight catch at the torso gave me more cause for concern than a bad batch of crotches.
Posted by MadProject on November 14th, 2019 @ 11:58am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 14th, 2019 @ 12:16pm CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 14th, 2019 @ 12:19pm CST
Posted by Immortal Starscream on November 14th, 2019 @ 12:33pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Hopefully with some decent retooling, they can fix this woeful Beast Mode with MP Tarantulas.
no. tarantulus needs a completely different mold. its fine to have some similar elements since the original toys were just repaints, but their show models and scale to one another were too different for them to do a retool for their masterpiece representations. would be the same for tigertron since he was way taller then cheetor in the show
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 14th, 2019 @ 12:49pm CST
Immortal Starscream wrote:Her got her a bit mistransformed through the review, but fixes it a bit in the pics at the end, like how her hips slide up in robot mode a bit.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Hopefully with some decent retooling, they can fix this woeful Beast Mode with MP Tarantulas.
no. tarantulus needs a completely different mold. its fine to have some similar elements since the original toys were just repaints, but their show models and scale to one another were too different for them to do a retool for their masterpiece representations. would be the same for tigertron since he was way taller then cheetor in the show
Agreed, none of the BW MPs should be retools.
I’d be more forgiving of Tigatron being a retool of Cheetor, but Tarantulas and Blackarachnia are too different.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 14th, 2019 @ 12:49pm CST
Posted by Immortal Starscream on November 14th, 2019 @ 1:04pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yes, essentially while sharing some engineering, Tarantulas and Tigatron will be bigger molds, bigger figures. What I mean is specifically regarding the execution of the Spider Mode. They do transform in the same way, so hopefully HasTak won't think improvements don't need to be made further down the line for Tarantulas.
got ya. agree there. but I think tarantulus would be easier to make less kibbly, given his bulky/chunky robot mode and less bulbous spider abdomen. more room for panels really.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 14th, 2019 @ 1:10pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 14th, 2019 @ 1:37pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It is strange to see that within the first line of Beast Wars figures, most of the Predacon bugs were much better executed designs than the Maximal Beast Modes. Yet, fast forward to the Masterpiece collection and the first MP bug looks to be the worst Beast Mode so far
Not so sure about that. I still really dislike Cheetor's execution. Unlike Blackarachnia, Cheetor actually has extraneous kibble sticking out that look like tumours coming out f his legs. Blackarachnia at least tries to make it work with the overal shape.
Just my opinion of course.
Posted by william-james88 on November 14th, 2019 @ 1:37pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It is strange to see that within the first line of Beast Wars figures, most of the Predacon bugs were much better executed designs than the Maximal Beast Modes. Yet, fast forward to the Masterpiece collection and the first MP bug looks to be the worst Beast Mode so far
Not so sure about that. I still really dislike Cheetor's execution. Unlike Blackarachnia, Cheetor actually has extraneous kibble sticking out that look like tumours coming out f his legs. Blackarachnia at least tries to make it work with the overal shape.
Just my opinion of course.