More Images From Tokyo Toy Show 2019 Masterpiece Display

Couple ideas for MP-50 that haven't been mentioned:

Mirage/Ligier - I said it before, if Hound comes with the key to Ravage's cage then Mirage should come with the cage itself. But personally I'd rather see him as a later MP (not MP-51, I want that to be Cosmos/Adams for obvious UFO reasons).

Victory Leo - Keeping hope alive with this one. I'm sure they can find some way to make it connect to Star Saber somehow with some creativity.

Rodimus Prime/Rodimus Convoy - MP-9's Hot Rodimus form is now redundant, it's time for a redo that doesn't try to do double duty (though ironically it'll no doubt cost more).

Grimlock - Time to get the big guy up to 2.0 scale.

Fire Convoy - He was 5th place on the Convoy poll (even if that was only 4.9% of the votes) and he hasn't had a recent figure in a very long time (the Encore version received a rare recall, we're owed something to make up for that).

G2 Laser Optimus Prime - Seems like a popular character design and it would be really nice to see a larger version of the still great original figure with modern tooling.

Seeker Jet 3.0 - The second Starscream was better than the first, but still far from ideal. Plus it doesn't match the current cartoon aesthetic of the line very well. A 3.0 will happen some day, hopefully sooner than later.

A combiner - Not possible in 1.0, but more possible in 2.0 since cartoon accuracy means we can ignore vehicle scale.

What it wont be is Star Convoy or Armada Convoy (currently being made for Selects, they likely wouldn't do both collectibles at the same time), and probably not Dai Atlas (just released in Legends, but enough time may have gone by by the time 50 is released).

Emerje

Nice list!

Grimock would be awesome!

1, that overpriced Optimus prime (OPOP) is really good looking. I bet I break down and buy it one day. Hopefully, on sale.

2, I would love an MP Devastator (who wouldn't?) The Toy World Constructor is close enough to perfect for me that I'd probably buy it if it weren't for all the QC issues I read about him. Seems like not a single one leaves the factory without a problem. But he does prove that collectors are willing to pay $600 for an MP scale Devastator. The big question, of course, is would it cost $600 from HasTak or would it be $900?

3, I'm itching for a Starscream 3.0 and a Grimlock 2.0 but knowing that G1 MPs come out once or twice a year tops, I know I'll be somewhat disappointed when they announce them because I still really want new molds of characters we haven't had yet. I don't know why they couldn't have banged out an MP Arcee and Kup; there's no licensing issues to wrangle with there...

EDIT: one more!

4, Honestly, it could be a tougher job than an MP combiner but: Astrotrain.

1) I agree, that Overpriced Prime looks excellent, I love it.

2) If Takara is going to do an MP Combiner of any kind, it better have this level of engineering. Zero partsforming, full articulation for the combiner (including ab crunch), and perfect, kibble free individual bot modes, alt modes, and combiner modes. An example of this:


3) A triple changing Astrotrain would be a marvel of HasTak engineering, and I would just love one.

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Since Takara's numbering system has no real rhyme or reason to it, I'm not sure it makes a difference.

Takara's numbering system makes total sense. I didn't have the time to write it into words yet but here is a pic of me figuring it out:

killin me!

Man, MP-46 Blackarachnia looks to be in scale even with Cheetor in those pics, she’s barely taller than him while he’s down on one knee.

If 50 ends up being an event, the ones I think it could be are:

1) new MP Starscream/seeker mold
2) Waspinator
3) Grimlock
4) Big Convoy

I'm not really feeling any others could work for 50 that are in the realm of possibility right now

Watch mp50 be a black redeco of mp44

Lio convoy looks nice, though hopefully he does not have crotch issues. Hound is cool as well, but man those prices. In some stores the hasbro version of the Hound is like 10e cheaper. Dunno why. I preordered the takara one.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:If 50 ends up being an event, the ones I think it could be are:

1) new MP Starscream/seeker mold
2) Waspinator
3) Grimlock
4) Big Convoy

I'm not really feeling any others could work for 50 that are in the realm of possibility right now

You know what would be a fun idea that will guarantee sales while humoring the fans? MP Waspinator... in pieces... included with other MP Beast Wars figures

I know price has been a big debate lately but for 50? And it’s Takara? Man, I’m thinking big. Jetfire.
With a bow on him.
Miracles happen and dreams can come true
Think big though.
Maybe a Prime from the Unicron trilogy or AoE Prime?
God I want to see Galvatron though.

Where's Scotty P when you need him to talk about how much importance Takara gives to its numbers.

william-james88 wrote:Where's Scotty P when you need him to talk about how much importance Takara gives to its numbers.

Oooo now that sounds like a juicy rant gauntlet thrown down.
Summon the entrance pyrotechnics!

william-james88 wrote:Where's Scotty P when you need him to talk about how much importance Takara gives to its numbers.

The numbering of individual figures is as meaningless as it ever was. The Fiftieth figure in the line is a milestone Takara will most likely make a fuss over though. Time will tell...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:If 50 ends up being an event, the ones I think it could be are:

1) new MP Starscream/seeker mold
2) Waspinator
3) Grimlock
4) Big Convoy

I'm not really feeling any others could work for 50 that are in the realm of possibility right now

You know what would be a fun idea that will guarantee sales while humoring the fans? MP Waspinator... in pieces... included with other MP Beast Wars figures

You really don't need to give them that idea

MP Build a figures would go over SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO well

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:If 50 ends up being an event, the ones I think it could be are:

1) new MP Starscream/seeker mold
2) Waspinator
3) Grimlock
4) Big Convoy

I'm not really feeling any others could work for 50 that are in the realm of possibility right now

You know what would be a fun idea that will guarantee sales while humoring the fans? MP Waspinator... in pieces... included with other MP Beast Wars figures

You really don't need to give them that idea

MP Build a figures would go over SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO well

Dude I can’t even tell if that’s sarcastic or not because either way mind blown.

*sarcasm meter starts going off*
My word D Max! Your post is off the charts!

Though to make the idea worse, build a mp waspinator in $400 mp releases of repaints. Minimise costs, maximum profit

Beachjezus wrote:Nice list!

Grimock would be awesome!

...and the rest of the dinobots too...

I was excited about Hound, but the flosting head really bugs me.

Love the new Prime but nan 450 bucks is steep

Leo looks awesome too....

ZeroWolf wrote:*sarcasm meter starts going off*
My word D Max! Your post is off the charts!

Though to make the idea worse, build a mp waspinator in $400 mp releases of repaints. Minimise costs, maximum profit

Oh, it was complete sarcasm.

I am among those who cry at the BAF pieces with Marvel legends. That new Professor hulk is making me sad, and those are 6 $20 figures. i cannot imagine multiple $120-$200 figures!

Nathaniel Prime wrote:1) I agree, that Overpriced Prime looks excellent, I love it.

2) If Takara is going to do an MP Combiner of any kind, it better have this level of engineering. Zero partsforming, full articulation for the combiner (including ab crunch), and perfect, kibble free individual bot modes, alt modes, and combiner modes. An example of this:


3) A triple changing Astrotrain would be a marvel of HasTak engineering, and I would just love one.

Non parts-forming combiners look spindly, off aesthetically and tend to have problems with stability. I purchased Road King and im all in for FT Menasor which looks like it could be amazing. On the subject of FTs, does anyone know when Spoiler (not breakdown) is coming out?

I think you might be mixing up Road King and Road Caesar.

Trying to do the G1 combiners without partsforming is a fool's errand. Especially Devastator.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think you might be mixing up Road King and Road Caesar.

Trying to do the G1 combiners without partsforming is a fool's errand. Especially Devastator.

I used to think so as well,especially after that terrible FOC Bruticus...

Until last week, when I discovered that such a thing is possible. If 3P can do it, Takara can certainly do. And they can do it better.

I still say it's a bad idea. And frankly, inaccurate.

Found this on reddit, and this is sad, but true.

Funny, but sad, and it does show what fans are thinks of the new Masterpieces coming out.

Honestly I think Hound's design adding unnecessary complexity for the sake of hiding his tires worse than the floating neck.

I just don't get how you can be so utterly clever in hiding the wheels for perfect cartoon accuracy....and then botch the neck in such a goofy way...

I think they wanted a seamless hood + the ability to open it. That wouldn't be possible with the head popping out if it.

Vanishing wheels isn't "perfect" cartoon accuracy, it's cartoon accuracy gone mad.

I would be willing to bet that the neck actually can sit properly flush and was just transformed incompetently. And I would also bet that the neck working like that at all is the price paid for some of the magic disappearing kibble.

Syclone wrote:I just don't get how you can be so utterly clever in hiding the wheels for perfect cartoon accuracy....and then botch the neck in such a goofy way...

There is nothing wrong with his neck, you just have to transform it properly. Like with any other figure.

william-james88 wrote:

Syclone wrote:I just don't get how you can be so utterly clever in hiding the wheels for perfect cartoon accuracy....and then botch the neck in such a goofy way...

There is nothing wrong with his neck, you just have to transform it properly. Like with any other figure.

This. What's wrong with his neck is that the schmuck who posed him for the display either didn't push it down properly or moved it out of place without noticing.

That art also points out Bumblebee’s ugly feet it would have been nice to see a better job with those I dunno they just seem so...unsightly. Yikes. Cybertronian Plantar fasciitis.

There is a better job. It's called MP-21

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Syclone wrote:I just don't get how you can be so utterly clever in hiding the wheels for perfect cartoon accuracy....and then botch the neck in such a goofy way...

There is nothing wrong with his neck, you just have to transform it properly. Like with any other figure.

This. What's wrong with his neck is that the schmuck who posed him for the display either didn't push it down properly or moved it out of place without noticing.

Y'all can keep saying this but even in the properly transformed pics, there's still a gap....

I thought that release was great in some of these I just don’t get why they revisit certain ideas.

Anyone have any personal favorite MPs that you felt were better in their newer/older versions? How were they improved or detracted from?

Syclone wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Syclone wrote:I just don't get how you can be so utterly clever in hiding the wheels for perfect cartoon accuracy....and then botch the neck in such a goofy way...

There is nothing wrong with his neck, you just have to transform it properly. Like with any other figure.

This. What's wrong with his neck is that the schmuck who posed him for the display either didn't push it down properly or moved it out of place without noticing.

Y'all can keep saying this but even in the properly transformed pics, there's still a gap....

Show us

william-james88 wrote:

Syclone wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Syclone wrote:I just don't get how you can be so utterly clever in hiding the wheels for perfect cartoon accuracy....and then botch the neck in such a goofy way...

There is nothing wrong with his neck, you just have to transform it properly. Like with any other figure.

This. What's wrong with his neck is that the schmuck who posed him for the display either didn't push it down properly or moved it out of place without noticing.

Y'all can keep saying this but even in the properly transformed pics, there's still a gap....

Show us

No? You're fully capable of scrolling back through this thread or popping on over to the hound thread and looking yourself.

EDIT:changed my mind. Don't know if this is going to work because I'm on my phone though

https://static.seibertron.com/images/to ... und-02.jpg

DOUBLE EDIT: I'll give the benefit of the doubt that snark was not intended and remove (most) of my snark

Syclone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Syclone wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Syclone wrote:I just don't get how you can be so utterly clever in hiding the wheels for perfect cartoon accuracy....and then botch the neck in such a goofy way...

There is nothing wrong with his neck, you just have to transform it properly. Like with any other figure.

This. What's wrong with his neck is that the schmuck who posed him for the display either didn't push it down properly or moved it out of place without noticing.

Y'all can keep saying this but even in the properly transformed pics, there's still a gap....

Show us

No? You're fully capable of scrolling back through this thread or popping on over to the hound thread and looking yourself.

EDIT:changed my mind. Don't know if this is going to work because I'm on my phone though

https://static.seibertron.com/images/to ... und-02.jpg

DOUBLE EDIT: I'll give the benefit of the doubt that snark was not intended and remove (most) of my snark

There is no snark intended, i just want to see what you see. The image you provided is indeed not transformed properly. Stick to official images or wait till someone who transforms it correctly takes better pics.

So much snark in here it’s turning into an issue of Power Pack. Ya buncha Snarks


It’s funny because all the Figure King shots look great it’s those overhead shots that really make ya go ho boy. Photographed just low enough he’s aces.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There is a better job. It's called MP-21

Problem is, for a select few, mp 21 had the wrong alt mode. They wanted the chibi beetle just like the toon... Well, you know what they say about being careful what you wish for.

Personally, I much preferred the approach of the Masterpiece range back then, realistic alts to toon bots. Guess that wasn't where the money was though

ZeroWolf wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There is a better job. It's called MP-21

Problem is, for a select few, mp 21 had the wrong alt mode. They wanted the chibi beetle just like the toon... Well, you know what they say about being careful what you wish for.

Personally, I much preferred the approach of the Masterpiece range back then, realistic alts to toon bots. Guess that wasn't where the money was though

Hound has a realistic alt still.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There is a better job. It's called MP-21

Problem is, for a select few, mp 21 had the wrong alt mode. They wanted the chibi beetle just like the toon... Well, you know what they say about being careful what you wish for.

Personally, I much preferred the approach of the Masterpiece range back then, realistic alts to toon bots. Guess that wasn't where the money was though

Hound has a realistic alt still.

So does BW megatron

blackeyedprime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There is a better job. It's called MP-21

Problem is, for a select few, mp 21 had the wrong alt mode. They wanted the chibi beetle just like the toon... Well, you know what they say about being careful what you wish for.

Personally, I much preferred the approach of the Masterpiece range back then, realistic alts to toon bots. Guess that wasn't where the money was though

Hound has a realistic alt still.

So does BW megatron

Well I walked into that one

Also hounds cartoon alt mode was still more realistic looking then bee's plus hound was designed first as didn't we see him before mp 44?

Not going to lie... as much as I didn't want to like the "ne" Bee.... the more I look at him, especially his chest/backpack and his alt mode... the more I really do like him. That said... the original is still amaze-balls, glad I was able to get his battle mask (like the G2 Gold-bug) to differentiate them.

MPM-8 Megatron found at Canadian Retail?


This was found at a Toys R Us in Drummondsville, Canada. I'm boggled as to how they would carry an expensive figure like this

Edit: Forgit to add the source

That's suprising, has this been sighted anywhere else?

ZeroWolf wrote:That's suprising, has this been sighted anywhere else?

Nope, no other sighting reported so far.

Guys, I dont mean to alarm you, but...


Now, I have no idea if this is fake or not, so take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: It's been confirmed as a fake, so sorry

Yes, that's actually a touched-up Studio Series Ratchet.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yes, that's actually a touched-up Studio Series Ratchet.

I had my suspicions at first. That glow effect on the headlights was particularly a sign of photoshop for me. But then I saw the articulated hands and figured it was real. Whoops