Masterpiece MP-51 Arcee New Pictures

Rodimus Prime wrote:It's a decent-looking figure, I just hate it that the chest piece ruins it. For me it does, anyway.

It ruins it for me too.
Its not just the chest but it's relation to everything around it. It just doesn't seem like a cohesive design.

Welp… Arcee is trying her best.

But her best picture is the one below:




Azalea still reign supreme.

Takaras just horny at this point. Giving up an otherwise amazing looking figure for the sake of the Tiddies. I wonder how long it’ll be before they’res a boob upgrade kit.

Nah but seriously this looks really good. There are issues like the backpack going out a little further then the Season 3, 4 and Headmasters model, I’m not seeing her pistol from the end of the movie in the right colours If its there at all, the Wheel stop she used on the Junkion came from her wheel and not from the front like the MP and the chest is Glaring and terrible. But the alt mode is perfect. Other then the chest it’s a spitting image of the Model, She has a great ass and the holster and Rifle are interesting accessories to include. I’ll wait for more pics and the Pre-Order to pop up at EB Games AUS. I may pick it up but I don’t really wanna pick up the Targetmaster Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus or any 3P MP Wreck Gar, Springer, Wheelie or Blurr as companion pieces. I’m just happy with CHUG scale Takara versions of them and any characters they make into Mps should be able to stand by themselves

Prime Target wrote:Takaras just horny at this point. Giving up an otherwise amazing looking figure for the sake of the Tiddies. I wonder how long it’ll be before they’res a boob upgrade kit.

Oh hell naw!
This Arcee look like a 55yo cougar desperate for attention. The opposite of sexy.

For "sexy" let's just drop all pretences and go for Nicee.

The backpack is annoying, but I think I like it better then them just removing half of her car mode and using it as a shield or skateboard like with the earthrise one. But yeah, her chest plate really does look pretty terrible. It doesn't mesh with the rest of the design very well. I mentioned before, he reminds me of someone wearing a cardboard box as a bra.

Man, all I ever wanted for years was a MP Arcee... but not quite like this? The proportions just seem off, the backpack certainly doesn't help. She just seems to lack the weight (her AND her Earthrise counterpart) that made Arcee a formidable warrior and not the secretary that she was in Headmasters. It seems we're either stuck with an Arcee with an oversized backpack, or an Arcee that requires partsforming. I think for now I'll stick with her Thrilling 30 Gen toy, which I think is the best toy representation of Arcee (not including the amazing Animated and Prime toys. And the upcoming Cyberverse toy isn't too bad either).

If anything, it seems like HasTak is testing the waters with futuristic vehicle designs and decided to use Arcee as the experiment for this new design choice for other post-movie characters. It goes hand-in-hand with the Masterpiece line eschewing accurate vehicles for deathly accurate cartoon models, a curse we especially see in the new Bumblebee (I mean... that face). So let's hope that the inevitable upcoming MP Kup, Springer, Blurr, etc don't sacrifice too much in order to look like a poorly drawn 80s cartoon character.

Rodimus Knight wrote:The backpack is annoying, but I think I like it better then them just removing half of her car mode and using it as a shield or skateboard like with the earthrise one. But yeah, her chest plate really does look pretty terrible. It doesn't mesh with the rest of the design very well. I mentioned before, he reminds me of someone wearing a cardboard box as a bra.

This may be a typo, but somehow, it fit. :/

On my end, I can tolerate the "sagging" chest. But that backpack look like a cancerous growth. Ocular Max Azalea dealt with the backpack in the most effective way so far. Even Rouge did it better than the MP. As for Laea, she's disqualified because the whole rear section of her vehicle mode is bafflingly missing.

Incredible! I've waited almost 34 years for a figure like this one. HASBRO/TAKARA-TOMY finally got the hint and make this. I'm saving my pennies to maybe get this release. I am also psyched for the 'Siege: Earthrise' Optimus Prime with trailer and the new Titan Class Scorponok.

well to be honest have we ever had an official more accurate Arcee toy
yes they could have maybe should have put in the extra engineering to make her more visually appealing
but at what cost i think until i see a video review ill reserve judgment

Arcee is further proof that the current head of MP design needs to have "STOP TRYING TO NEEDLESSLY DISAPPEAR WHEELS" stapled to his forehead.

Ultra Markus wrote:well to be honest have we ever had an official more accurate Arcee toy
yes they could have maybe should have put in the extra engineering to make her more visually appealing
but at what cost i think until i see a video review ill reserve judgment

Right there with you. Despite what I said, I just know I'm gonna cave instantly.

I just know one day soon we're going to be able to recreate the 86 Movie cover with all Masterpieces. Not soon enough...

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Arcee is further proof that the current head of MP design needs to have "STOP TRYING TO NEEDLESSLY DISAPPEAR WHEELS" stapled to his forehead.

You seriously think that this single step warrant all those sacrifices and odd design choices? Come on, man. It's like blaming how poorly built a house is based on what picture frames hang on the walls. This make no sense.

Transform Element OP Leader and Ocular Max Azalea both have their vehicle wheels completely disappear in bot mode. Yet both their transformations are relatively straightforward and simple and their bots have basically no kibble.

Disappearing wheels is as simple as turning a panel and or folding some panels over. It's no rocket science. MP-44 may be a bit overcomplicated, but at least he look good. This official MP Arcee is just BAD all over. You cannot blame a "single cause" when the cause is lost.

A bit baffling that this official Arcee fail so hard because the designers had so many 3P options to learn from.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Arcee is further proof that the current head of MP design needs to have "STOP TRYING TO NEEDLESSLY DISAPPEAR WHEELS" stapled to his forehead.

You seriously think that this single step warrant all those sacrifices and odd design choices? Come on, man. It's like blaming how poorly built a house is based on what picture frames hang on the walls. This make no sense.

Transform Element OP Leader and Ocular Max Azalea both have their vehicle wheels completely disappear in bot mode. Yet both their transformations are relatively straightforward and simple and their bots have basically no kibble.

Disappearing wheels is as simple as turning a panel and or folding some panels over. It's no rocket science. MP-44 may be a bit overcomplicated, but at least he look good. This official MP Arcee is just BAD all over. You cannot blame a "single cause" when the cause is lost.

A bit baffling that this official Arcee fail so hard because the designers had so many 3P options to learn from.

Perhaps I should have said kibble and not just wheel, those were just on the forefront of my mind because of MP-47. In any case, the designer was desperately scrambling to avoid integrating any of the altmode into the robot mode and vice versa, not even a concession of the thighs forming part of the car aft as was done on T30 Arcee. Forget learning from 3P, they couldn't even learn from a toy they themselves did six years ago! And then tried to compress that down to a Deluxe.

Also, I think I realized what's off about her chest. They made the top of her "bosom" a separate slope from her collar area, and squashed it down to below the armpit. On the actual cartoon design, the collar area is incorporated into the upper part of her chest, the slope of which extends to the top of her shoulders.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Forget learning from 3P, they couldn't even learn from a toy they themselves did six years ago!

This. So much this.

What make the other "Arcees" work so well, even Rouge and Laea, is the fact that many of their bot parts are also part of the vehicle. Thus reducing the backpack. I can forgive the Earthrise Arcee to cheat via a "surfboard" because she's a regular retail figure with a restricted budget. But the MP have no excuse with it's "unlimited" budget.

I'm still looking forward the video reviews though. Maybe she will feel and look way better in hand than on those photos.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Forget learning from 3P, they couldn't even learn from a toy they themselves did six years ago!

This. So much this.

What make the other "Arcees" work so well, even Rouge and Laea, is the fact that many of their bot parts are also part of the vehicle. Thus reducing the backpack. I can forgive the Earthrise Arcee to cheat via a "surfboard" because she's a regular retail figure with a restricted budget. But the MP have no excuse with it's "unlimited" budget.

It's because of the Hyper Cartoon Accuracy At All Costs trend. The rear fenders of Arcee's car mode are entirely pink in the cartoon. And since the designer wasn't willing to concede that for the sake of better integration...

It’s not awful, and I reckon will look much better in hand... however, the price is off putting for me atm. Last mp I got was hound which was great but fragile and was zero fun to transform. I feel that they could get “easier” figures right rather than end up with a less than perfect complicated one like arcee.

Think I’ll return to collecting mps when they release the rest of the ark crew or I win the lotto.

Ultra Markus wrote:well to be honest have we ever had an official more accurate Arcee toy
yes they could have maybe should have put in the extra engineering to make her more visually appealing
but at what cost i think until i see a video review ill reserve judgment

I'd argue that LG-10 is as accurate.

If the 3rd party companies can make an Arcee with an accurate looking chest I don't know why Takara couldn't. I guess the designer didn't think it would bother anyone that much.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If the 3rd party companies can make an Arcee with an accurate looking chest I don't know why Takara couldn't. I guess the designer didn't think it would bother anyone that much.

Wasn't this the same guy who did T30 Arcee though?

ZeroWolf wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If the 3rd party companies can make an Arcee with an accurate looking chest I don't know why Takara couldn't. I guess the designer didn't think it would bother anyone that much.

Wasn't this the same guy who did T30 Arcee though?

No idea. It just seems to me that engineering can't be an excuse.

The backpack doesn't bother me, but the face is wrong. The chest is . . . distractingly wrong. She can't stand on her own. And $150 to boot. I already have 3 or 4 combiners that can barely stand and will collapse entirely if I even think about posing them.

A sad, but easy, pass.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If the 3rd party companies can make an Arcee with an accurate looking chest I don't know why Takara couldn't. I guess the designer didn't think it would bother anyone that much.

Wasn't this the same guy who did T30 Arcee though?

Yep. The same TWO designers as the T30 mold: Yuki Ohshima (who did the aesthetic work) and Hironori Kobayashi (who did the engineering work).

I can't help looking at these pictures and thinking, "It'd be really cool if someone released a pack of just translucent blast effects." Especially since they'd be compatible with multiple TF lines at this point.

Glarryg

I think MP-51 Arcee looks incredible for the most part. I see what you guys are saying though, that aren't happy with her chest design, and I agree that it does look unsightly in some of the pics. Specifically, the seam or line on the side of her chest piece detracts from the figure and in some of the pics, it looks like her chest sits too low. I see why the piece is like that, it just doesn't seem that well thought out, though I'm sure they spent a lot of time on her look. It's just off, which is always disappointing on a Masterpiece figure (especially with the announcement lead time on these things).

The rest of her looks great and I can't wait to add her to my collection. Only thing that would be cooler would be a little Daniel figure to go with her ... hell I'd even take a 2nd head that transforms into Rebirth Danny as best as they could.

If anyone takes these comments out of context, I will be really upset!

That misplaced chest is just too distracting. It looks mistransformed. I hate to sound whiney but when the asking price is so high, I do expect a high level of figure. This is probably a pass for me, which absolutely sucks because this was always a bucket list transformer for me. If the price drops to Tracks level, I'll probably snag it but for $150? I doubt it.

Seibertron wrote:If anyone takes these comments out of context, I will be really upset!

Well, Arcee did became a... headmaster at some point. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

But seriously, I'd love to have a proper Headmaster Arcee figure. One that is not the phoned-in TR Blurr repaint.

The TR Blurr redeco comes a lot closer than a Chromedome redeco (like was proposed during G1) would have.

Welcome to Master Piece Back Pack!

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The TR Blurr redeco comes a lot closer than a Chromedome redeco (like was proposed during G1) would have.

I would REALLY have liked a pink G1 Blurr with a female face. It would have fit the spirit of the goofy robots of G1 plus the vehicle is perfect.

I did a rough digibash some years ago. Maybe I'll buy a G1 Blurr body for cheap and make the custom myself.



As for the TR version, I would have liked them to went the extra mile and make some heavy retooling. But at the time, Gen Select wasn't a thing. Maybe one day?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The TR Blurr redeco comes a lot closer than a Chromedome redeco (like was proposed during G1) would have.

I would REALLY have liked a pink G1 Blurr with a female face. It would have fit the spirit of the goofy robots of G1 plus the vehicle is perfect.

I did a rough digibash some years ago. Maybe I'll buy a G1 Blurr body for cheap and make the custom myself.



As for the TR version, I would have liked them to went the extra mile and make some heavy retooling. But at the time, Gen Select wasn't a thing. Maybe one day?

1. Hasbro-initiated Selects toys don't have much retooling thus far, and 2. What do you call TR Arcee's new upper arms, new arm panels, new guns, and new shield then?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Hasbro-initiated Selects toys don't have much retooling thus far, and 2. What do you call TR Arcee's new upper arms, new arm panels, new guns, and new shield then?

Well, the ball will be at Takara.
Also, that light Hasbro remold still make TR Arcee look like Blurr in drag.
I just HATE that Titan Return Arcee!
That's what I keep telling myself since I saw those goddamn second market prices. ;__;

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Hasbro-initiated Selects toys don't have much retooling thus far, and 2. What do you call TR Arcee's new upper arms, new arm panels, new guns, and new shield then?

Well, the ball will be at Takara.

But would they? I mean, Headmaster Arcee was a Hasbro idea to begin with..

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, that light Hasbro remold still make TR Arcee look like Blurr in drag.
I just HATE that Titan Return Arcee!
That's what I keep telling myself since I saw those goddamn second market prices. ;__;

Yeah, those prices are ouch. Not as stupid as the CW limb prices (even if they're steeper), but still. Makes me wish there was a 3P conversion kit to customize Blurr with

The way I see it, TR Arcee just has legs like Animated Arcee (and it's not like they could have done too much with the base mold's legs).

Her vehicle mode looks like it came straight from the cartoon!
Her chest looks werid depending on the angle.I wonder how easy it will be to stand this figure.


Day 130 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I was just taking a closer look at the pics and wondering that myself. The backpack is so massive and the legs so dainty, what are the odds it stands without an ugly stand?

Arcee has been given very expressive hands! I'm astonished at how well they resemble the natural human anatomy. Just that alone impressed me.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Seibertron wrote:If anyone takes these comments out of context, I will be really upset!

Well, Arcee did became a... headmaster at some point. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

But seriously, I'd love to have a proper Headmaster Arcee figure. One that is not the phoned-in TR Blurr repaint.

Have we reached this point before, with any of the characters that are later adapted into Headmasters? I think they missed a trick to add that bonus feature to Spinout, in lieu of skipping over IDWverse's Sunstreakers Headmaster shenanigans being added to his MP figure.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Arcee is further proof that the current head of MP design needs to have "STOP TRYING TO NEEDLESSLY DISAPPEAR WHEELS" stapled to his forehead.

You seriously think that this single step warrant all those sacrifices and odd design choices? Come on, man. It's like blaming how poorly built a house is based on what picture frames hang on the walls. This make no sense.

Transform Element OP Leader and Ocular Max Azalea both have their vehicle wheels completely disappear in bot mode. Yet both their transformations are relatively straightforward and simple and their bots have basically no kibble.

Disappearing wheels is as simple as turning a panel and or folding some panels over. It's no rocket science. MP-44 may be a bit overcomplicated, but at least he look good. This official MP Arcee is just BAD all over. You cannot blame a "single cause" when the cause is lost.

A bit baffling that this official Arcee fail so hard because the designers had so many 3P options to learn from.

Perhaps I should have said kibble and not just wheel, those were just on the forefront of my mind because of MP-47. In any case, the designer was desperately scrambling to avoid integrating any of the altmode into the robot mode and vice versa, not even a concession of the thighs forming part of the car aft as was done on T30 Arcee. Forget learning from 3P, they couldn't even learn from a toy they themselves did six years ago! And then tried to compress that down to a Deluxe.

Also, I think I realized what's off about her chest. They made the top of her "bosom" a separate slope from her collar area, and squashed it down to below the armpit. On the actual cartoon design, the collar area is incorporated into the upper part of her chest, the slope of which extends to the top of her shoulders.

I had to go check that, but you're right, they basically got rid of the slope on the top for some reason and made her collar go too far down. I knew there was something off about the design but I couldn't put my finger on it. That also ads to the "wearing a box" look to her.

I think it's cool that they do such a great job making the wheels disappear haha

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:well to be honest have we ever had an official more accurate Arcee toy
yes they could have maybe should have put in the extra engineering to make her more visually appealing
but at what cost i think until i see a video review ill reserve judgment

I'd argue that LG-10 is as accurate.

you could also say the same with earthrise arcee
but lg 10 has a much bigger backpack making her almost a shellformer
earthrise arcee has some parts forming

Ultra Markus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:well to be honest have we ever had an official more accurate Arcee toy
yes they could have maybe should have put in the extra engineering to make her more visually appealing
but at what cost i think until i see a video review ill reserve judgment

I'd argue that LG-10 is as accurate.

you could also say the same with earthrise arcee
but lg 10 has a much bigger backpack making her almost a shellformer
earthrise arcee has some parts forming

Yeah, they each have their pros and cons, none are perfect. But the fact that all 3 are as "ok" when looking at these pros and cons while one of those is a 150$ masterpiece is definitely saying something.

william-james88 wrote:Yeah, they each have their pros and cons, none are perfect. But the fact that all 3 are as "ok" when looking at these pros and cons while one of those is a 150$ masterpiece is definitely saying something.

Yeah, that the creator of her character model went too far with making things look good and not taking realistic physics in mind. She's almost like an Orbot

william-james88 wrote:
Yeah, they each have their pros and cons, none are perfect. But the fact that all 3 are as "ok" when looking at these pros and cons while one of those is a 150$ masterpiece is definitely saying something.

Yup. Some obvious flaws are acceptable for a 15$-30$ toy. But for a 150$-200$ toy that call itself MASTERPIECE? Oh hell naw.

By the way, I finally dug up my Arcees from the box left in the "no man's land" room. Unfortunately my T-30 Arcee was exposed to a open spot of the box just right for two years. She now have a orange chest.... It's kinda stylish actually.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Yup. Some obvious flaws are acceptable for a 15$-30$ toy. But for a 150$-200$ toy that call itself MASTERPIECE? Oh hell naw.

By the way, I finally dug up my Arcees from the box left in the "no man's land" room. Unfortunately my T-30 Arcee was exposed to a open spot of the box just right for two years. She now have a orange chest.... It's kinda stylish actually.

Retro.

I should have bought the Perfection Series PS-04P Azalea Protoform TFCon Exclusive By: Mastermind Creations when I had the chance.

After seeing these and a few other, I actually think Arcee looks pretty damn good. Alt mode is perfect. I would have been ok if her thighs were used as the back fender parts, making them white instead of pink, but I know people would complain. In robot mode she looks great and has good articulation. However, yes her chest is a bit too low,thats really the only problem with the figure and its not that bad.

Yeah, in all honesty, if they hadn't molded her entire upper torso to sit so low on her body (which also eliminates the area of her middle torso that she had on both her animation model and her Thrilling 30 toy but not here), I'd be fine with this Arcee, backpack and all.

Thanks to our very own Burn, we have some great news for Australian fans! He's discovered that latest Masterpiece figure, MP-51 Arcee, will be exclusive to the EB Games and Zing stores on that continent. EB Games did have a listing earlier, but it's since been taken down. Hopefully, both sites will have preorders available soon, so Transformers fans from down under can have the opportunity to order the second female Masterpiece figure.






Additionally, MP-39+, Spinout, is also being offered at EB Games, and there is a preorder up for him.



Are you excited for this release, Australian fans? Underwhelmed? Either way, let us know below, and stay tuned to Seibertron for all your Transformers news!

I dunno, I think the three-ring binder she has been trying to hide under her shirt is going to give her even more problems down under:

I'm puzzled. I thought I already noted the pre-order for Arcee? Although I maybe confusing it with the WFC figure.

Regardless:


£129.99 - InDemand Toys

10% Option is available. Release date given as December 2020. As yet no mention from Kapow Toys. Which means the pre-order will likely drop later this evening or tomorrow.

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