MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head
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Third-party toy maker MakeToys has posted some new images of their homage to Dream Wave's The Fallen, MT-04. The figure appears to transform into two tanks and comes with multiple weapons. Images mirrored below.
They have also posted an image of a replacement head for their recently released Battle Tanker upgrade for RtS G2 Optimus Prime. Those who own the upgrade know installing the new head can be a tricky endeavor. The instructions advise you to submerge the new head in boiling water for 30 seconds to soften the plastic for an easier installation. Even after doing so the many have snapped the neck post because of the tight fit.The placement seeks to remedy that with a new design and even comes with replacement neck peg if yours was damaged.
They have also posted an image of a replacement head for their recently released Battle Tanker upgrade for RtS G2 Optimus Prime. Those who own the upgrade know installing the new head can be a tricky endeavor. The instructions advise you to submerge the new head in boiling water for 30 seconds to soften the plastic for an easier installation. Even after doing so the many have snapped the neck post because of the tight fit.The placement seeks to remedy that with a new design and even comes with replacement neck peg if yours was damaged.
Credit(s): MakeToys
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Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320426)
Posted by Dre Merc on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:41am CST
Posted by Dre Merc on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:41am CST
Looks pretty friggin awesome to me! 
I want it. How is Maketoys going about distributing the replacement heads? Will they be..sold seperately for the already released batch of BT and/or be packaged with an upcoming batch of BT?
I want it. How is Maketoys going about distributing the replacement heads? Will they be..sold seperately for the already released batch of BT and/or be packaged with an upcoming batch of BT?
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320427)
Posted by Autobot032 on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:46am CST
Posted by Autobot032 on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:46am CST
Fallen impresses me. Yesssss.
Glad they're offering replacement parts for Tanker. I still think requiring disassembling and reassembling at this level is a bit extreme for their first product..
Glad they're offering replacement parts for Tanker. I still think requiring disassembling and reassembling at this level is a bit extreme for their first product..
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320429)
Posted by Gorechyld on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:50am CST
Posted by Gorechyld on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:50am CST
You know, not to sound offensive. But seriously, THAT many people are breaking the ball joint when replacing the head on their G2 Prime?! Are that many collectors THAT ham fisted? Its not rocket science here people, you unscrew original head, carefully peel it apart and put the new one on. I'm guessing the people who are experiencing these "issues" are just attempting to yank off the original head, and jam the new one on.
Seriously, steady hands and PATIENCE would probably cure the "issue" at hand here. Sheesh.
Seriously, steady hands and PATIENCE would probably cure the "issue" at hand here. Sheesh.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320431)
Posted by Jesterhead on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:53am CST
Posted by Jesterhead on December 7th, 2011 @ 8:53am CST
MakeToys is the new FansProject. Great looking stuff!
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320434)
Posted by Autobot032 on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:02am CST
*BUZZ* Wrong. The replacement head needs to be boiled 30-90 seconds before installation. Even then, it can break the ball joint. It's not that people are inept, it's a design flaw.
Don't guess, read before you start lambasting people.
Posted by Autobot032 on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:02am CST
Gorechyld wrote:You know, not to sound offensive. But seriously, THAT many people are breaking the ball joint when replacing the head on their G2 Prime?! Are that many collectors THAT ham fisted? Its not rocket science here people, you unscrew original head, carefully peel it apart and put the new one on. I'm guessing the people who are experiencing these "issues" are just attempting to yank off the original head, and jam the new one on.
Seriously, steady hands and PATIENCE would probably cure the "issue" at hand here. Sheesh.
*BUZZ* Wrong. The replacement head needs to be boiled 30-90 seconds before installation. Even then, it can break the ball joint. It's not that people are inept, it's a design flaw.
Don't guess, read before you start lambasting people.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320441)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:26am CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:26am CST
This thing look amazing. I will be buying it regardless of cost. MakeToy is hitting grand slams.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320454)
Posted by synthetik on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:40am CST
Posted by synthetik on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:40am CST
It's not very fallen like BUT it's still the epitome of sexiness
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320457)
Posted by Firebird on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:47am CST
Posted by Firebird on December 7th, 2011 @ 9:47am CST
So the Fallen is a power core combining Duocon? That's pretty cool!
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320472)
Posted by Rated X on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:16am CST
Posted by Rated X on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:16am CST
Now Im thinking about leaving on the old Optimus head until I get the newly designed one. I bought a United Prime for this set and I really hate to screw him up. Boiling a head in water sounds like the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Thanks once again to BBTS for the famous "pile of loot" feature which allows me not be the first guy to get my hands on the figure and inadvertantly screw him up.
Unsure about the Fallen. He looks cool but the only Fallen I ever knew was in the Bay-Verse.
Unsure about the Fallen. He looks cool but the only Fallen I ever knew was in the Bay-Verse.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320474)
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:18am CST
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:18am CST
Excessive red, yellow, and orange light piping would MAKE-this-TOY!
Black plastic base.
Weathered silver chrome face plate...
Owe Dee, son!
BTW, good call on the Duocon.
Black plastic base.
Weathered silver chrome face plate...
Owe Dee, son!
BTW, good call on the Duocon.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320477)
Posted by T-Macksimus on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:21am CST
Posted by T-Macksimus on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:21am CST
Love the robot mode. That is one insanely accurate, spot-on tribute to the WW Fallen from the DW TF comic. I'm not fond of the fact that it breaks into 2 separate tanks but if I do get this it will stay in it's combined mode on a display shelf alongside my collection of 6" Titanium figures anyways.
This is going to screw up a lot of younger TF fans since most only know of "the Fallen" from the recent movies and many will starting complaining about this figure without having read the article or done any research further back into the TF mythology.
Regardless of how anyone reacts or what folks say, this is one sweet looking figure and I can't wait to get my hands on this. This will definitely be near the top of my "Must Have" list.
This is going to screw up a lot of younger TF fans since most only know of "the Fallen" from the recent movies and many will starting complaining about this figure without having read the article or done any research further back into the TF mythology.
Regardless of how anyone reacts or what folks say, this is one sweet looking figure and I can't wait to get my hands on this. This will definitely be near the top of my "Must Have" list.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320478)
Posted by redguyver on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:21am CST
Posted by redguyver on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:21am CST
It has a chest that reminds me of some Chinese mech suit cartoon robot, or a gundum .. Aside from that is that Pcc plugs on the forearms? ...last what is happening with the heartmaster stuff from fansproject ?
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320481)
Posted by Badassimus Prime on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:26am CST
Posted by Badassimus Prime on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:26am CST
The Fallen looks pretty boss. As far as the two vehicles go, it'd be interesting to see that concept used in MakeToys's future projects. Maybe an Overlord?
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320494)
Posted by The Dude on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:57am CST
Posted by The Dude on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:57am CST
Any upgrade kit that
1. Costs more than 10x I paid for the toy it's upgrading
2. Requires the use of power tools to assemble
Sounds like a lot more trouble than it's worth. Sorry.
1. Costs more than 10x I paid for the toy it's upgrading
2. Requires the use of power tools to assemble
Sounds like a lot more trouble than it's worth. Sorry.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320495)
Posted by Mkall on December 7th, 2011 @ 11:02am CST
Posted by Mkall on December 7th, 2011 @ 11:02am CST
I'm incredibly excited about the Fallen figure, and even moreso that it splits and transforms into two tanks! And I don't plan on upgrading my prime's head anyways.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320507)
Posted by dinogeist on December 7th, 2011 @ 11:31am CST
Posted by dinogeist on December 7th, 2011 @ 11:31am CST
this thing is so bought as soon as i see a pre-order page for this i'm gonna pre-order it ASAP.
This has the potential of being the best fallen toy we've received thus far.
best of all this looks to be leader size. as it towers over RTS Prime in battle tanker combined mode.
This has the potential of being the best fallen toy we've received thus far.
best of all this looks to be leader size. as it towers over RTS Prime in battle tanker combined mode.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320517)
Posted by kirbenvost on December 7th, 2011 @ 11:55am CST
Posted by kirbenvost on December 7th, 2011 @ 11:55am CST
That's what they should have done for the head in the first place. Glad they are addressing it though.
Fallen: Welp. Looks like my TF budget for next year just shot up by a bunch. That looks freakin' awesome. Wonder what's up with the weird PCC-ish combination ports though.
Fallen: Welp. Looks like my TF budget for next year just shot up by a bunch. That looks freakin' awesome. Wonder what's up with the weird PCC-ish combination ports though.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320532)
Posted by Flatliner on December 7th, 2011 @ 12:18pm CST
Posted by Flatliner on December 7th, 2011 @ 12:18pm CST
I really want to see how that Fallen will look with Powercore stuff on him.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320542)
Posted by Optimusfan79 on December 7th, 2011 @ 12:43pm CST
Posted by Optimusfan79 on December 7th, 2011 @ 12:43pm CST
This Fallen figure is looks like it can & will be one of the best 3rd party toys ever put out. The people thats complaining about the 2 tank mode, look at the combined tank mode. Either way however this guy gets displayed its gonna look awesome in anybody's collection.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320545)
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 12:53pm CST
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 12:53pm CST
Was it Generations Skullgrin that had those 3mm clip weapons? You know, missile pods and mounted gun? I think HTS still has it in stock.
Gotta load up on the 3mm clip system acc's.
Here's a listing of the C-joint clip figures.
Battle Tanker has these clip pegs as well.
Gotta load up on the 3mm clip system acc's.
Here's a listing of the C-joint clip figures.
Battle Tanker has these clip pegs as well.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320546)
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 7th, 2011 @ 1:08pm CST
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 7th, 2011 @ 1:08pm CST
The Fallen is still a great looking figure, and splitting into two tanks is pretty cool. I hope there's a combined tank mode as neither tank looks particularly imposing. Still going to get it either way.
Given that Tanker is their first project, I'd be pissed if I had to pay for the replacement head, especially if I was one of the unfortunate ones who've snapped their Prime's neck. Having to take a drill to what is now a highly in-demand figure is asking for trouble. Can't see MakeToy paying for the cost of a replacement should you annihilate your figure. It's a hell of a drawback for such a cool set.
Given that Tanker is their first project, I'd be pissed if I had to pay for the replacement head, especially if I was one of the unfortunate ones who've snapped their Prime's neck. Having to take a drill to what is now a highly in-demand figure is asking for trouble. Can't see MakeToy paying for the cost of a replacement should you annihilate your figure. It's a hell of a drawback for such a cool set.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320548)
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 7th, 2011 @ 1:24pm CST
Would you mind being a good sport and pointing me towards said combined mode?
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 7th, 2011 @ 1:24pm CST
Optimusfan79 wrote:The people thats complaining about the 2 tank mode, look at the combined tank mode.
Would you mind being a good sport and pointing me towards said combined mode?
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320569)
Posted by Optimusfan79 on December 7th, 2011 @ 2:23pm CST
I was referring to the robot mode which over shadows the fact he turns into 2 tanks. That's all, sport.
Posted by Optimusfan79 on December 7th, 2011 @ 2:23pm CST
Sodan-1 wrote:Optimusfan79 wrote:The people thats complaining about the 2 tank mode, look at the combined tank mode.
Would you mind being a good sport and pointing me towards said combined mode?
I was referring to the robot mode which over shadows the fact he turns into 2 tanks. That's all, sport.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320573)
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 2:33pm CST
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 2:33pm CST
Who's to say definitively that each tank does not have a bot mode when uncombined? Furthermore, to be sold separately and have combining box art (like crossfire 02)? Conventional thinking is so two scoops of vanilla; I want the Ghirardelli Earthquake - what are you getting?
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320580)
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 7th, 2011 @ 2:55pm CST
I surely hope not.
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 7th, 2011 @ 2:55pm CST
Court Jester wrote:Who's to say definitively that each tank does not have a bot mode when uncombined?
I surely hope not.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320591)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on December 7th, 2011 @ 3:16pm CST
Posted by Doubledealer93 on December 7th, 2011 @ 3:16pm CST
i want this. badly. 
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320655)
Posted by Slip?Stream on December 7th, 2011 @ 6:32pm CST
Drilling is only needed if you already snapped off the original neck on the figure.
Posted by Slip?Stream on December 7th, 2011 @ 6:32pm CST
The Dude wrote:Any upgrade kit that
1. Costs more than 10x I paid for the toy it's upgrading
2. Requires the use of power tools to assemble
Sounds like a lot more trouble than it's worth. Sorry.
Drilling is only needed if you already snapped off the original neck on the figure.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320657)
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 6:41pm CST
Sure, I'll bite...
Should I assume you wouldn't because it wouldn't be fitting of the character? It has been hinted that War Within The Fallen's origins lie in a character called Megatronus Prime - neither Autobot or Decepticon.
Quote from Wiki:
There is room for taking liberties with this Megatronus Prime character; but what if Maketoy is attempting to rewrite the Megatronus Prime character as the name implies: Megatron and Optimus merged in chaos (as the embodiment of the great wars across several universes and alternate realities like SG)? I know... I know, I've over-written; again.
Even the name implies two or more... I know, it's a stretch, but if its two bots that cause chaos in the character, it kicks the back story up a notch - even complimenting the Shadow Scythe character in the Fandomverse.
Either way, I'm in on this project. Pen me down for 2.
Posted by Anonymous on December 7th, 2011 @ 6:41pm CST
Sodan-1 wrote:I surely hope not.
Sure, I'll bite...
Should I assume you wouldn't because it wouldn't be fitting of the character? It has been hinted that War Within The Fallen's origins lie in a character called Megatronus Prime - neither Autobot or Decepticon.
Quote from Wiki:
The Fallen is a fictional character in the Transformers universes. According to Hasbro, he was formerly known as Megatronus Prime, and is a multiversal singularity, meaning that while he exists across the multiverse, he has no alternate-universe counterpart.
There is room for taking liberties with this Megatronus Prime character; but what if Maketoy is attempting to rewrite the Megatronus Prime character as the name implies: Megatron and Optimus merged in chaos (as the embodiment of the great wars across several universes and alternate realities like SG)? I know... I know, I've over-written; again.
Even the name implies two or more... I know, it's a stretch, but if its two bots that cause chaos in the character, it kicks the back story up a notch - even complimenting the Shadow Scythe character in the Fandomverse.
Either way, I'm in on this project. Pen me down for 2.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320665)
Posted by bladewing2 on December 7th, 2011 @ 6:55pm CST
hmmmm...Am I the only one thinking that with retooling of one of those, and a new jet to merge with we could see a decent Overlord?
Posted by bladewing2 on December 7th, 2011 @ 6:55pm CST
hmmmm...Am I the only one thinking that with retooling of one of those, and a new jet to merge with we could see a decent Overlord?
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320737)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:15pm CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2011 @ 10:15pm CST
Since this bad boy is coming with a new head for Battle Tanker, I wonder just how far away he is from a release?
I'd love to see the MakeToy guys do an Overlord!!
I'd love to see the MakeToy guys do an Overlord!!
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320771)
Posted by Blurrz on December 8th, 2011 @ 12:37am CST
Posted by Blurrz on December 8th, 2011 @ 12:37am CST
Get the F out
Then his name would be Allen.
Cue Venksta.
No it doesn't
Then his name would be Allen.
Cue Venksta.
Tidalwavex wrote:best of all this looks to be leader size. as it towers over RTS Prime in battle tanker combined mode.
No it doesn't
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320863)
Posted by Kibble on December 8th, 2011 @ 11:18am CST
Wait, the replacement head doesn't come with The Fallen figure, right? The info just happened to come out at the same time...
Posted by Kibble on December 8th, 2011 @ 11:18am CST
amcgrath929 wrote:Since this bad boy is coming with a new head for Battle Tanker, I wonder just how far away he is from a release?
I'd love to see the MakeToy guys do an Overlord!!
Wait, the replacement head doesn't come with The Fallen figure, right? The info just happened to come out at the same time...
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320917)
Posted by zodconvoy on December 8th, 2011 @ 2:08pm CST
Posted by zodconvoy on December 8th, 2011 @ 2:08pm CST
I still haven't bit the bullet on Tanker yet but that Fallen looks increasingly sweet! It looks ready to stand next to Logos Prime on my God Shelf.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1320930)
Posted by krenger99 on December 8th, 2011 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by krenger99 on December 8th, 2011 @ 2:54pm CST
That's a quite awesome third party figure. I'm really diggin' Maketoy's. Does anyone know when they're starting to sell their Constructicon Sets? I'm all over those. That fact that I work construction makes their color scheme all the more appealing to me. 
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1321112)
Posted by cylor on December 9th, 2011 @ 3:50am CST
No, you're not the only one
Posted by cylor on December 9th, 2011 @ 3:50am CST
bladewing2 wrote::-? hmmmm...Am I the only one thinking that with retooling of one of those, and a new jet to merge with we could see a decent Overlord?
No, you're not the only one
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1321172)
Posted by zodconvoy on December 9th, 2011 @ 10:21am CST
I'd rather they didn't. At least not quite so early in their run. They still have to work out the kinks and get the ball rolling some more. Their first real outing that isn't a upgrade is full blown combiner. And not just any ol' Computron or Abominus where they can get all stylistic to get some experience but Devastator. Real altmodes, defined characters, real beloved first season stuff. I'd like to see someone tackle the Stunticons and/or Predaking. Plus, we have some deluxe sized holes that need filling: Trailbreaker, Gears, Brawn, Skids, Blitzwing, Dinobots that aren't bland for the sake of a boring combiner, Shockwave that isn't a boat. And it wouldn't surprise me if iGear wasn't planning to cap it's Wreckers line with Overlord and then we'll have Herc v. Giant all over again (but at least that would be cheaper!)
Posted by zodconvoy on December 9th, 2011 @ 10:21am CST
cylor wrote:bladewing2 wrote::-? hmmmm...Am I the only one thinking that with retooling of one of those, and a new jet to merge with we could see a decent Overlord?
No, you're not the only one
I'd rather they didn't. At least not quite so early in their run. They still have to work out the kinks and get the ball rolling some more. Their first real outing that isn't a upgrade is full blown combiner. And not just any ol' Computron or Abominus where they can get all stylistic to get some experience but Devastator. Real altmodes, defined characters, real beloved first season stuff. I'd like to see someone tackle the Stunticons and/or Predaking. Plus, we have some deluxe sized holes that need filling: Trailbreaker, Gears, Brawn, Skids, Blitzwing, Dinobots that aren't bland for the sake of a boring combiner, Shockwave that isn't a boat. And it wouldn't surprise me if iGear wasn't planning to cap it's Wreckers line with Overlord and then we'll have Herc v. Giant all over again (but at least that would be cheaper!)
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1321581)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on December 10th, 2011 @ 11:05am CST
It does to a certain degree but I do want the first edition of Battle Tanker. Did I read right that also included is a bonus weapon of some sort? I will bite and wait for the new head to go with the set no problem for me. I figured I waited this long for it I can wait a bit more...'nuff said!
Posted by Nemesis Destron on December 10th, 2011 @ 11:05am CST
The Dude wrote:Any upgrade kit that
1. Costs more than 10x I paid for the toy it's upgrading
2. Requires the use of power tools to assemble
Sounds like a lot more trouble than it's worth. Sorry.
It does to a certain degree but I do want the first edition of Battle Tanker. Did I read right that also included is a bonus weapon of some sort? I will bite and wait for the new head to go with the set no problem for me. I figured I waited this long for it I can wait a bit more...'nuff said!
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1321886)
Posted by TFseeker on December 11th, 2011 @ 12:45am CST
Posted by TFseeker on December 11th, 2011 @ 12:45am CST
I got the battle tanker the other day and I did the whole boiling head in the water thing and I got the head on all right, but when I tried to turn his head, it was so tight that it stressed the plastic to a point where I knew it was going to break off eventually. And sure enough it did. But luckily i had another RTS prime lying around and since the ball joint was stuck in the maketoy head, I had to drill it out. The second try, I just pushed on the head without boiling anything and it went on! Now i have a battle ready optimus prime and it's amazing. I think the drill may have opened up the head a little bit so that it didn't require any boiling water. After I put the head on the first time, I think I should've waited to try to turn his head. It was really tight. I will save my RTS prime without the head for when the replacement head is released. maybe i'll sell it on ebay with the maketoys head...
Now concerning this Fallen character. I noticed something that no one has mentioned yet. He is a parts former. which means, he breaks into pieces and forms up again to change forms. if you notice, on the right tank, his feet are attached to his formarms. You can see this by the PCC ports on his forarms in his bot mode, and notice the square empty space on his heels. The left tank is made up of his core, his back, and his thighs while the right tank is made up of his arms and his lower legs. His PCC ports in his bot mode will probably still be used to attache his guns like we've seen in previous pictures.
still... pretty sweet.
Now concerning this Fallen character. I noticed something that no one has mentioned yet. He is a parts former. which means, he breaks into pieces and forms up again to change forms. if you notice, on the right tank, his feet are attached to his formarms. You can see this by the PCC ports on his forarms in his bot mode, and notice the square empty space on his heels. The left tank is made up of his core, his back, and his thighs while the right tank is made up of his arms and his lower legs. His PCC ports in his bot mode will probably still be used to attache his guns like we've seen in previous pictures.
still... pretty sweet.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1321906)
Posted by Anonymous on December 11th, 2011 @ 2:32am CST
Posted by Anonymous on December 11th, 2011 @ 2:32am CST
I wonder what that hinge on the treads are for... 
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1321980)
Posted by Dead Metal on December 11th, 2011 @ 9:37am CST
Posted by Dead Metal on December 11th, 2011 @ 9:37am CST
I want this and the inevitable upgrade set to give him the flames.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1322087)
Posted by necr0blivion on December 11th, 2011 @ 2:24pm CST
Yep, first edition will include the bonus Drift sword. How long will these editions be available, no idea. Does it make buying 1st edition a necessity, individual buyer must decide.
Posted by necr0blivion on December 11th, 2011 @ 2:24pm CST
Nemesis Destron wrote:Did I read right that also included is a bonus weapon of some sort?
Yep, first edition will include the bonus Drift sword. How long will these editions be available, no idea. Does it make buying 1st edition a necessity, individual buyer must decide.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1322371)
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 12th, 2011 @ 12:04pm CST
You know what, he's not wrong. Good eye! And if you're one of those that had noticed, then shame on you for not speaking up.
I can't stand part-formers. They just strike me as lazy design work. If it were any other character I'd probably right this off here and now, but The Fallen is the exception to the rule. Being a character of ancient times, you could simply pass it off as an early crude attempt at transforming. I like it, and I wonder if there is the possibility of multiple permutations.
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 12th, 2011 @ 12:04pm CST
TFseeker wrote:Now concerning this Fallen character. I noticed something that no one has mentioned yet. He is a parts former. which means, he breaks into pieces and forms up again to change forms. if you notice, on the right tank, his feet are attached to his formarms. You can see this by the PCC ports on his forarms in his bot mode, and notice the square empty space on his heels. The left tank is made up of his core, his back, and his thighs while the right tank is made up of his arms and his lower legs. His PCC ports in his bot mode will probably still be used to attache his guns like we've seen in previous pictures.
You know what, he's not wrong. Good eye! And if you're one of those that had noticed, then shame on you for not speaking up.
I can't stand part-formers. They just strike me as lazy design work. If it were any other character I'd probably right this off here and now, but The Fallen is the exception to the rule. Being a character of ancient times, you could simply pass it off as an early crude attempt at transforming. I like it, and I wonder if there is the possibility of multiple permutations.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1322393)
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 12th, 2011 @ 1:09pm CST
OK, I'll admit it. The idea of condensing the conflict between Optimus and Megatron into one tortured soul is pretty awesome. But I would imagine such a being having a psychological state more like Autobot Spike or Transmetals II Dinobot, not a rampant force of destruction like The Fallen. Megatron may be an evil tyrant bent on galactic domination, but most of his incarnations have shown reason, logic and order at some time or another. Megatron and Optimus are too similar for a merger to create such chaos.
Then there's the fact that Megatronus was one of the Original 13 Cybertronians who were created by Primus long before the time of Megatron and Optimus. To change his origins so that he's a combination of the two would surely contradict the notion that he's a singular multi-verse entity.
At the end of the day, TFSeeker highlighting the fact this figure is a part-former I think would make two individual robot modes a difficult thing to achieve.
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 12th, 2011 @ 1:09pm CST
Court Jester wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I surely hope not.
Sure, I'll bite...
Should I assume you wouldn't because it wouldn't be fitting of the character? It has been hinted that War Within The Fallen's origins lie in a character called Megatronus Prime - neither Autobot or Decepticon.
Quote from Wiki:The Fallen is a fictional character in the Transformers universes. According to Hasbro, he was formerly known as Megatronus Prime, and is a multiversal singularity, meaning that while he exists across the multiverse, he has no alternate-universe counterpart.
There is room for taking liberties with this Megatronus Prime character; but what if Maketoy is attempting to rewrite the Megatronus Prime character as the name implies: Megatron and Optimus merged in chaos (as the embodiment of the great wars across several universes and alternate realities like SG)? I know... I know, I've over-written; again.
Even the name implies two or more... I know, it's a stretch, but if its two bots that cause chaos in the character, it kicks the back story up a notch.....
OK, I'll admit it. The idea of condensing the conflict between Optimus and Megatron into one tortured soul is pretty awesome. But I would imagine such a being having a psychological state more like Autobot Spike or Transmetals II Dinobot, not a rampant force of destruction like The Fallen. Megatron may be an evil tyrant bent on galactic domination, but most of his incarnations have shown reason, logic and order at some time or another. Megatron and Optimus are too similar for a merger to create such chaos.
Then there's the fact that Megatronus was one of the Original 13 Cybertronians who were created by Primus long before the time of Megatron and Optimus. To change his origins so that he's a combination of the two would surely contradict the notion that he's a singular multi-verse entity.
At the end of the day, TFSeeker highlighting the fact this figure is a part-former I think would make two individual robot modes a difficult thing to achieve.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1322402)
Posted by Dead Metal on December 12th, 2011 @ 1:32pm CST
Posted by Dead Metal on December 12th, 2011 @ 1:32pm CST
Why are people assuming that the two tanks have individual robot-modes?
You do realise that parts forming is the most logical way to do this guy, after all he wasn't originally designed with an actual alt-mode in mind, he was designed to look badass in bot-mode and kinda like a tank.
And this looks so accurate that the tank-modes are just there to justify his status as a Transformers character so people don't go "F**king Actionmasters", without compromising his accurate bot-mode.
I believe they will hide the hands when in alt-mode.
I hope they don't try to paint flames on this bad-boy and instead go with translucent plastic flames.
You do realise that parts forming is the most logical way to do this guy, after all he wasn't originally designed with an actual alt-mode in mind, he was designed to look badass in bot-mode and kinda like a tank.
And this looks so accurate that the tank-modes are just there to justify his status as a Transformers character so people don't go "F**king Actionmasters", without compromising his accurate bot-mode.
Court Jester wrote:I wonder what that hinge on the treads are for...
I believe they will hide the hands when in alt-mode.
I hope they don't try to paint flames on this bad-boy and instead go with translucent plastic flames.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1324182)
Posted by Forgotten on December 16th, 2011 @ 7:14pm CST
That would look awesome. I would happily settle for some UV reactive reprolabels flames stickers though.
Posted by Forgotten on December 16th, 2011 @ 7:14pm CST
Dead Metal wrote:I hope they don't try to paint flames on this bad-boy and instead go with translucent plastic flames.
That would look awesome. I would happily settle for some UV reactive reprolabels flames stickers though.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1324247)
Posted by Anonymous on December 16th, 2011 @ 11:43pm CST
Posted by Anonymous on December 16th, 2011 @ 11:43pm CST
@ Sodan-1: I see your point in Megs and OP sharing qualities. Still, the mystery surrounding the character is what draws me to further speculation, hence interest in acquiring the toy. I love story - especially the kind of stories that I haven't been privy to yet. I love discovering a story instead of painting by the numbers with the same hue palette. In other words, good call, but here's to hoping for depth.
@ Dead Metal: Nobody's stating fact other than what's observed. I was speculating into the possible. In regards to the hinges on treads of the upper body (back) of the bot mode, they remain unfolded in both modes. More than meets the eye with this one...
@ Dead Metal: Nobody's stating fact other than what's observed. I was speculating into the possible. In regards to the hinges on treads of the upper body (back) of the bot mode, they remain unfolded in both modes. More than meets the eye with this one...
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1324311)
Posted by Dead Metal on December 17th, 2011 @ 9:25am CST
They will probably hide the hands when in alt-mode and close over them again. Kinda like Generations Warpath.
Posted by Dead Metal on December 17th, 2011 @ 9:25am CST
Court Jester wrote:@ Sodan-1: I see your point in Megs and OP sharing qualities. Still, the mystery surrounding the character is what draws me to further speculation, hence interest in acquiring the toy. I love story - especially the kind of stories that I haven't been privy to yet. I love discovering a story instead of painting by the numbers with the same hue palette. In other words, good call, but here's to hoping for depth.
@ Dead Metal: Nobody's stating fact other than what's observed. I was speculating into the possible. In regards to the hinges on treads of the upper body (back) of the bot mode, they remain unfolded in both modes. More than meets the eye with this one...
They will probably hide the hands when in alt-mode and close over them again. Kinda like Generations Warpath.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1324326)
Posted by Anonymous on December 17th, 2011 @ 10:19am CST
Green is what I mean.
Posted by Anonymous on December 17th, 2011 @ 10:19am CST
Green is what I mean.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1324361)
Posted by Dead Metal on December 17th, 2011 @ 12:23pm CST
Ah, OK I see them now, silly me.
Might still hide something in ether alt or bot-mode. Like a connector or something that's needed for transformation, kinda like you have to open up the Classics Seeker body and then close it again during transformation.
Posted by Dead Metal on December 17th, 2011 @ 12:23pm CST
Court Jester wrote:
Green is what I mean.
Ah, OK I see them now, silly me.
Might still hide something in ether alt or bot-mode. Like a connector or something that's needed for transformation, kinda like you have to open up the Classics Seeker body and then close it again during transformation.
Re: MakeToys: New Fallen Prototype Images and Battle Tanker Replacement Head (1325730)
Posted by Agamemnon on December 21st, 2011 @ 3:11pm CST
Posted by Agamemnon on December 21st, 2011 @ 3:11pm CST
I thought I'd post this here and not start a new thread. I just got Battle Tanker from BBTS and it came with the replacement head.
Something for those of you still waiting for this toy to look forward to. Have a happy holidays!
Something for those of you still waiting for this toy to look forward to. Have a happy holidays!
