In-Hand images of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Smokescreen

Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body

What is this? This is so lazy, they even left the light bar on him; I mean, I know that it is part of the body itself, but man this is hideous and lazy

Thank Primus I got the first '84 team for him already, looks like I really will just be getting hound from that set of limbs

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body

What is this? This is so lazy, they even left the light bar on him; I mean, I know that it is part of the body itself, but man this is hideous and lazy

Thank Primus I got the first '84 team for him already, looks like I really will just be getting hound from that set of limbs

He hardly has any to be sure, just on the head and chest. The rest is concentrated on the vehicle mode, which needs a lot: red to cover the blue plastic and vice-versa as it would be a patchwork otherwise.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body

No wonder we never noticed that before. Look at how they posed his CG render:



Clever, Hasbro. Clever.

And looks to be the same as the ones on display at BotCon and SDCC:

They could've painted the faux headlines or a number on his chest at least. Something. Painted the boots.

Which brings me to a question. The boot section was remolded from Dead End for Streetwise. Streetwise, Prowl, and Smokescreen all have rear car windows for their boots. Why didn't they try to mold the boots so that they look like fake windows and would be more accurate?

Is that a new head sculpt compared to Prowl?

It Is Him wrote:Is that a new head sculpt compared to Prowl?

Nope, straight redeco all the way. Would be a waist waste to retool it if they look so much alike, right?

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body

No wonder we never noticed that before. Look at how they posed his CG render:



Clever, Hasbro. Clever.

And looks to be the same as the ones on display at BotCon and SDCC:

Yeah, I'm sorry, but this is inexcusable laziness on hasbro's part. I don't care how 'G1 accurate' this may be (it isn't really though, I believe), nor should it being the last wave affect it's deco.

I get the feeling that TT could really knock this waves' deco's outta the park

Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

Railbomb wrote:

Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

Sure he is, it's just in robot mode now

Railbomb wrote:

Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

It's cool to get these first in-hand looks but lets wait until we see this in packaging when it comes out before we rush to judgement on something like paint and such. Like those reviewers that review early third party samples says "the final product may change, this is still and early example" or whatever

mooncake623 wrote:

Railbomb wrote:

Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

It's cool to get these first in-hand looks but lets wait until we see this in packaging when it comes out before we rush to judgement on something like paint and such. Like those reviewers that review early third party samples says "the final product may change, this is still and early example" or whatever

Except that it's the same as the display pieces, and the artwork that they release (which to my knowledge has been on the mark for this line) so, yeah, he isn't likely to get any more paint apps between now and then

I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

That's why we have Reprolabels.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

That's why we have Reprolabels.

Still not okay

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

I was talking about the top: most of the vehicle mode is blue plastic as far as I can tell. Meaning it needs a lot of red paint to make it look like a proper Smokescreen. Only the roof and arms are red plastic, the latter needing blue paint.

I was kinda meh until I scrolled done to the car mode. That sure is purdy. I've already got 4 of this mold though. A real shame about that bit of unpaintable plastic they keep using (I'm assuming its unpaintable that is).

Sharp car mode you gots there smokes.

I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

Well, then thank Primus there's RiD!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

I was talking about the top: most of the vehicle mode is blue plastic as far as I can tell. Meaning it needs a lot of red paint to make it look like a proper Smokescreen. Only the roof and arms are red plastic, the latter needing blue paint.

Agreed. Needing the whole budget for the basic color scheme with nothing left for details is sort of Smokescreens thing, just as Silverbolt will always be a robot under a jet.

Bottom line: if Hasbro wanted to be cheap or lazy, they wouldn’t paint half of a blue and red car to make Smokescreen; they’d paint none of a grey and black car to make Bluestreak.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

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So...what does this mean? Computron yes or Computron no?

MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

Same here but I think at the end of the day it really matters how you plan to use the figures. People who like to set up the figures individually (whether in robot or alt mode) are probably more ticked then those who like to combine them.

I know that the Bruticus for the most part is a mix of other retooled Transformers but as long as Bruticus looks unique enough I'll still buy the Combaticons since that's how I'll leave them.

Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.

some reprolabels will take care of the lack of paint

Hitokiri2 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

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So...what does this mean? Computron yes or Computron no?

From Hasbro, no. From Takara, possibly possible but undetermined.

Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.

Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...

oh look another autobot car i dont need again. i just want my skylynx.

MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

I wouldn't mind half as much if they weren't characters I don't care about - all of whom I've passed on the shelves before - and don't really want. Had they been inventive like the mayhem team, I would've been so stoked for them, but alas, they are just repeating the same boring G1 stuff over and over again

Hellscream9999 wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

I wouldn't mind half as much if they weren't characters I don't care about - all of whom I've passed on the shelves before - and don't really want. Had they been inventive like the mayhem team, I would've been so stoked for them, but alas, they are just repeating the same boring G1 stuff over and over again

Hey, anyone not into G1 is welcome to come by and check out my local Wal-Marts: plenty of Rattraps, Tankors, and Armada Megatrons for everyone!

(With green Megs gone, maybe they'll finally stock Ultra Magnus! )

Randomus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

I wouldn't mind half as much if they weren't characters I don't care about - all of whom I've passed on the shelves before - and don't really want. Had they been inventive like the mayhem team, I would've been so stoked for them, but alas, they are just repeating the same boring G1 stuff over and over again

Hey, anyone not into G1 is welcome to come by and check out my local Wal-Marts: plenty of Rattraps, Tankors, and Armada Megatrons for everyone!

(With green Megs gone, maybe they'll finally stock Ultra Magnus! )

I wouldn't mind getting a tankor at a good enough price, but I'm guessing he's not on clearance yet - probably why they're still there

Hellscream9999 wrote:
I wouldn't mind getting a tankor at a good enough price, but I'm guessing he's not on clearance yet - probably why they're still there

What would be a good price to you? 10$? 8$

Man, I wish you were here a year ago, there was a seller on e-bay selling Takara tankors (out of the box with no instructions, they were factory surplus) for 8$ shipping included. Good times.

Also to the others, We still have ample green megs where I am but it hasnt stopped ultra magnus from rolling in (Or Starscream).

He sure does look a little bland in robot mode. The vehicle mode looks very nice however. Still a buy for me, but wish the robot mode was a little more unique

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
I wouldn't mind getting a tankor at a good enough price, but I'm guessing he's not on clearance yet - probably why they're still there

What would be a good price to you? 10$? 8$

Man, I wish you were here a year ago, there was a seller on e-bay selling Takara tankors (out of the box with no instructions, they were factory surplus) for 8$ shipping included. Good times.

Also to the others, We still have ample green megs where I am but it hasnt stopped ultra magnus from rolling in (Or Starscream).

$8 seems fair. Can't believe you have leader starscream up there already

But if anyone else's um is anything like mine, I'd prepare for disappointment

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.

Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...

Once everything is all said and done from Hasbro, you can make TWO combiners with only this basic mold. G1 and G2 Dead End and Wildrider, Streetwise, Prowl, Smokescreen and Dustup. You can even have a third combiner if you have the Takara versions of Dead End, Wildrider, Streetwise and Prowl as well. I'll be using my Takara Streetwise as a lazy Silverstreak. At least Takara's "Galvatronus" won't have that mold in it too.

Alpha Weltall wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.

Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...

Once everything is all said and done from Hasbro, you can make TWO combiners with only this basic mold. G1 and G2 Dead End and Wildrider, Streetwise, Prowl, Smokescreen and Dustup. You can even have a third combiner if you have the Takara versions of Dead End, Wildrider, Streetwise and Prowl as well. I'll be using my Takara Streetwise as a lazy Silverstreak. At least Takara's "Galvatronus" won't have that mold in it too.

Everyone's worst nightmare is realized: 2 combiners made of only 1 single limb mold....

The same source (weibo) that gave us the in hand images of Combiner Wars Smokescreen has also posted an image of Betatron, a combiner made up of Scattershot and any other limb you like (since he is released as an extra torso). The source has combined him with the 2016 Wave 2 deluxe figures made up of Hound, Wheeljack, Trailbrekaer and the aforementioned Smokescreen. Below is also an image that Seibertron took at Botcon when Betatron was initially revealed. As you can see, unlike what was hoped by a few fans, this was a very close to final version afterall and there are no distinctive differences. Let us know if you find any and of course, please give us your thoughts on Betatron on the boards!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.

Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...

Once everything is all said and done from Hasbro, you can make TWO combiners with only this basic mold. G1 and G2 Dead End and Wildrider, Streetwise, Prowl, Smokescreen and Dustup. You can even have a third combiner if you have the Takara versions of Dead End, Wildrider, Streetwise and Prowl as well. I'll be using my Takara Streetwise as a lazy Silverstreak. At least Takara's "Galvatronus" won't have that mold in it too.

Everyone's worst nightmare is realized: 2 combiners made of only 1 single limb mold....

Positive Spin time: Now you have the most uniform looking combiners

Why, that poor combiner has fists for knees.

Backwards upper and lower legs are very backwards.

Well not that that's been revealed, I'm guaranteed not to purchase Scattershot. He's a lazy remold/recolor of Silverbolt (I'd hoped for Cyclonus levels of retooling) with no original limbs. Sucks, because he and the Technobots were some of my most cherished TFs as a kid. Let's hope Takara can do something more with the name.

Well, color me unimpressed

Skipping him; hope sky lynx's wavemate is better than this

So lazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy!

Said it before, I'll say it again.

I can handle Betatron having the same head mold as Superion, but his head being literally identical to Superion's is just sad.

Along with the unchanged head, I don't like the fact that The Chest Plate of Betatron is nearly the same colour as Scattershot's body, so it looks like a big red brick with arms and legs.

A new level of laziness by a company who apparently want your money but ran out of steam and imagination.

Still tempted by Sky Lynx but won't use him as a Combiner and the rest of this stuff is just forgettable junk.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a NOPE.

I wonder if a head swap and dirty repaint of Wheeljack could work as Lightspeed?

Everyone, click your heals together and say "There's no place like Takara... there's no place like Takara... there's no place like Takara." If we believe really hard, they will make him into a real combiner!

so far I have menasor and superion. Will get the protectabots and combaticons. Will get sky Lynx but will pass on cyclonus, the Optmus primes and the auto bots no matter how strong the urge to recreate the masquerade episode is.

Re scattershot, he's too similar to silverbolt and without a proper team to go with him... I'm sure there are sketches in a vault somewhere of all the technobots, terror cons and predacons. The latter would make a great second voyager combiner like the constructions.