First Look at Legacy Voyagers BW Inferno and Armada Starscream
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Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 5th, 2022 @ 7:45am CDT
edit: just realized screamer doesn't have any minicon ports. How does PRIME Bulkhead have minicon ports, but ARMADA Starscream not?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 5th, 2022 @ 8:01am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Indemand has photos up of deluxe inferno and armada starscream (deluxe??) which I'm just going to take as my two lots of bad news to complete it coming in threes today. I'll look to see if the figures are any good later but size classes suck for both.
Why did you thought those were deluxes? Description error?
It's written "voyager" on the boxes in 5 languages.
Anyway, those, I look forward to.
Posted by TulioDude on July 5th, 2022 @ 8:04am CDT
The accessories are fine, but it would have been cool to have more Minicon ports.
The wings look more G1 inspired with those proportions, which I don't think it's bad, just different.
Inferno looks pretty menacing. Can someone say which kind of ant this is based on?
Day 917 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by Emerje on July 5th, 2022 @ 8:28am CDT
I actually like the way they changed up Inferno's transformation. Always thought the arms and legs looked weird as ant limbs being so big. We actually got a preview of this on the Cybertron Metroplex box art so we should have all seen this coming. The articulated head reminds me of Ramhorn. Should be a really fun figure. Looks like the ant mandibles are still articulated.
TulioDude wrote:Inferno looks pretty menacing. Can someone say which kind of ant this is based on?
It's in the name, he's a fire ant.
Emerje
Posted by sol magnus on July 5th, 2022 @ 8:32am CDT
As for Armada Universe Starscream, there is no Armada Universe in my headcanon, or at least not one visited via multiversal shenanigans. I suppose this Starscream will be him returned to life after Galvatron blasts him into dust.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on July 5th, 2022 @ 8:54am CDT
Armada Starscream I'll have to see in person. Looks great, but I still have the whole Armada Seeker fleet from back in the day, plus the deluxe, and I need to curtail my army-building with non-G1-esque Seekers.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2022 @ 8:57am CDT
Emerje wrote:Man, these both look fantastic! I can't wait to buy Starscream four or five times! Really love the update, I want to see him with his shoulder canons deployed (looks possible). Not sure about the wing sword not just being removable wings, but I guess they didn't want to do the folding gimmick. Wish they would have painted it red and white instead of the whole thing red, feels like a wasted paint asset when it looks better in white on the back of the box. Star Saber is pretty cool, too. So far the Unicron Trilogy remakes are killing it.
I actually like the way they changed up Inferno's transformation. Always thought the arms and legs looked weird as ant limbs being so big. We actually got a preview of this on the Cybertron Metroplex box art so we should have all seen this coming. The articulated head reminds me of Ramhorn. Should be a really fun figure. Looks like the ant mandibles are still articulated.TulioDude wrote:Inferno looks pretty menacing. Can someone say which kind of ant this is based on?
It's in the name, he's a fire ant.
Emerje
If you look on the back of the box the wing sword is white
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:12am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:18am CDT
Inferno looks great. Something cute about the Ants features. I don't like the idea of a gun stuck on top of a Beast Mode. I'm used to weapons being hidden in BW figures. But apart from that he looks like one of the most faithful BW updates yet.
Posted by sol magnus on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:20am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Starscream ..is a Starscream. I thought Armada Screamer already received a modern update not too long ago?
Inferno looks great. Something cute about the Ants features. I don't like the idea of a gun stuck on top of a Beast Mode. I'm used to weapons being hidden in BW figures. But apart from that he looks like one of the most faithful BW updates yet.
Starscream got a deluxe around 2012 or so. Hardly recent, and different class. It was 2014 to be exact.
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:28am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:33am CDT
sol magnus wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Starscream ..is a Starscream. I thought Armada Screamer already received a modern update not too long ago?
Inferno looks great. Something cute about the Ants features. I don't like the idea of a gun stuck on top of a Beast Mode. I'm used to weapons being hidden in BW figures. But apart from that he looks like one of the most faithful BW updates yet.
Starscream got a deluxe around 2012 or so. Hardly recent, and different class. It was 2014 to be exact.
It's all a bit timey wimey. I recall seeing Armada Screamer around the same time as Generations Sky Byte. Which it was - both in 2014. Just didn't realise that was eight years ago now
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:37am CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Transformers is nothing but disappointment lately. Inferno is my favorite Predacon & I couldn't wait to see him. Robot mode looks good but that ant mode sucks! I might just save my money because I have the original it's far superior. I see no reason to blow $30 for a downgrade.
The new one actually looks like an Ant. Which is what this line has gone for with the BW figures since Kingdom. Less stylised Beast Modes.
Posted by sol magnus on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:42am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:sol magnus wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Starscream ..is a Starscream. I thought Armada Screamer already received a modern update not too long ago?
Inferno looks great. Something cute about the Ants features. I don't like the idea of a gun stuck on top of a Beast Mode. I'm used to weapons being hidden in BW figures. But apart from that he looks like one of the most faithful BW updates yet.
Starscream got a deluxe around 2012 or so. Hardly recent, and different class. It was 2014 to be exact.
It's all a bit timey wimey. I recall seeing Armada Screamer around the same time as Generations Sky Byte. Which it was - both in 2014. Just didn't realise that was eight years ago now
One thing I can say about this new one is, I've never had an Armada Universe Starscream in the past. So, it's new to me.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:45am CDT
Posted by Rtron on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:52am CDT
Inferno I'm liking very much, specially like the articulated jaw to showcase his madness. Although I'm disappointed that he doesn't actually have his gun, but rather rips off his own ass to use it as a gun. I may end up designing and 3D printing a custom gun.
I still love the "realistic" alt modes mixed in with the screen accurate robot modes, it feels new, better for mass market appeal, and will help these figures stand out if they ever do ANOTHER remake of Beast Wars and go for screen accurate alt modes at that point. However, I'm a bit worried they'll extend this aesthetic to Dragon Megatron. I mean, dragons don't exist so there's no "realistic" way to do him, but I'm afraid they might remove the Transmetal details from the alt mode to make him blend in more with the season 1 cast. I really hope they don't.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 5th, 2022 @ 9:54am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I have a friend who Starscream is his favourite character and he has all of them. From Diaclone to present day. So I just see new postings like this one and just get a sense of deja vu
Thats me all over. except for the diaclone, I dont have that one...yet. oh and pretender, missing him too. Honestly I've been super excited for this release. I have the previous generations armada screamer, but his clear orange plastic bits have all cracked. his swords still sit in his wings ok, but his head is held on with sticky tack
this also makes me very excited to see the armada megs. honestly, I did not like the armada toon at all, and though almost all of the autobot toys were crap, I absolutely loved the decepticon toys, just wished they had articulation. Bring on Tidal wave, Cyclonus, Demolisher, Wheeljack/rampage, and toss in a Sideways for good measure.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:01am CDT
Rtron wrote:Inferno I'm liking very much, specially like the articulated jaw to showcase his madness. Although I'm disappointed that he doesn't actually have his gun, but rather rips off his own ass to use it as a gun. I may end up designing and 3D printing a custom gun.
It is noticeable that his gun isn't in his hand, it was a very distinct feature to his design.
Rtron wrote: However, I'm a bit worried they'll extend this aesthetic to Dragon Megatron. I mean, dragons don't exist so there's no "realistic" way to do him, but I'm afraid they might remove the Transmetal details from the alt mode to make him blend in more with the season 1 cast. I really hope they don't.
Honestly, I can't seem them going any other way. TM2 Megatron doesn't fit in with the rest of the Beast Wars figures released since Kingdom. Unless they change his aesthetic to bring it inline with the others. Bypassing the Transmetals to include him, as they have, will likely lead to caveats.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:46am CDT
Posted by M. Spector on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:48am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:50am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I really really don't like what they have done to Inferno's torso. Making the ant eyes that much smaller just creates this wide sea of red between them on his chest when the blue eyes were such a prominent part of Inferno's chest on both the original toy and the cartoon model. They've gone from being main aspects of the front of his chest to inconsequential aspects hidden on the sides of his chest.
Closer to the biology of a Fire Ant.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:51am CDT
Still doesn't make it look "good".AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I really really don't like what they have done to Inferno's torso. Making the ant eyes that much smaller just creates this wide sea of red between them on his chest when the blue eyes were such a prominent part of Inferno's chest on both the original toy and the cartoon model. They've gone from being main aspects of the front of his chest to inconsequential aspects hidden on the sides of his chest.
Closer to the biology of a Fire Ant.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:52am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:52am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".
That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:54am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:The only other way to have made his robot mode chest be toon accurate would have been to use faux parts, I think the approach they used is much better.
I think it could also lead to a better looking Antagony figure too.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:57am CDT
Or just let the eyes be bigger, realism be darned.ZeroWolf wrote:The only other way to have made his robot mode chest be toon accurate would have been to use faux parts, I think the approach they used is much better.
Inferno and Waspinator both have eye boobs. Waspy got his, but Inferno got gypped. Gimme eye boobs, darn it.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:59am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Inferno and Waspinator both have eye boobs. Waspy got his, but Inferno got jipped. Gimme eye boobs, darn it.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2022 @ 10:59am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:The only other way to have made his robot mode chest be toon accurate would have been to use faux parts, I think the approach they used is much better.
I think it could also lead to a better looking Antagony figure too.
Indeed, the colours should look really nice on that mold.
Though how many years till we get transmetal redos (or even netter, reissues)
Posted by optimeow on July 5th, 2022 @ 11:06am CDT
Recently got vintage Inferno. Can’t wait to put them together.
Love Armada Starscream having a mini starsaber.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 5th, 2022 @ 11:15am CDT
Starscream, I'm split on. I love the Armada figure, but the fact his back can't fold down always bothered me. If this fixes that (which it seems to) then I'll get this as well.
Posted by Till-all-R1 on July 5th, 2022 @ 11:20am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".
That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.
Regardless, it was never going to work out very well trying to make a robot from a animal or insect, insects more so because of hoe some of them are. On screen in TV magic land you can do almost anything but when it comes to making a toy of it becomes a lot more complicated. This is why I was never a fan of the BW toys in general.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 11:28am CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote: On screen in TV magic land you can do almost anything but when it comes to making a toy of it becomes a lot more complicated. This is why I was never a fan of the BW toys in general.
The issue is a lot of this is based on Season One/initial wave designs and figures.
The more creative and intricate designs didn't make it into the show. By the same token, they got better at it with subsequent waves. Much like comparing the 84 G1 figures to say, the post-Movie characters. Development and crafting skills improved over time.
IMO, the BW Scorponok toy was a far better design than the show model, and he looked good in both modes.
Posted by Big Grim on July 5th, 2022 @ 11:29am CDT
For the ROYALTY!
He's a must have.
~ Grim
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2022 @ 11:29am CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".
That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.
Regardless, it was never going to work out very well trying to make a robot from a animal or insect, insects more so because of hoe some of them are. On screen in TV magic land you can do almost anything but when it comes to making a toy of it becomes a lot more complicated. This is why I was never a fan of the BW toys in general.
I think they've done a good job here and with many other beast formers, never doubt what the designers can do when push comes to shove.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 11:31am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:05pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Indemand has photos up of deluxe inferno and armada starscream (deluxe??) which I'm just going to take as my two lots of bad news to complete it coming in threes today. I'll look to see if the figures are any good later but size classes suck for both.
Why did you thought those were deluxes? Description error?
It's written "voyager" on the boxes in 5 languages.
Anyway, those, I look forward to.
Description error on the posting. Tho tbf the posting could have said made of marshmallows after I found out a relative is ill.
Posted by Short Circuit on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:06pm CDT
Immortal Starscream wrote:just realized screamer doesn't have any minicon ports. How does PRIME Bulkhead have minicon ports, but ARMADA Starscream not?
Because they aren't mini con ports. They're just pegs with holes that aren't compatible. I tried.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:08pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:11pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".
That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.
When it is prehistoric fictional bugs tho they shouldn't really be modernised bugs. The new live action film will likely butcher them enough that way as is.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:12pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:13pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".
That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.
When it is prehistoric fictional bugs tho they shouldn't really be modernised bugs. The new live action film will likely butcher them enough that way as is.
Some Beast Modes didn't even exist during the Prehistoric era. Authenticity to the period was never a serious consideration.
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:17pm CDT
Sadly inferno looks off like the other beast wars stuff. I'll likely get him for the royalty but if I still had the original I'd be passing. Unlike tigertron he doesn't have a better mp option or even a Red substitute yet.
Posted by Rtron on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:18pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Is there any chance Inferno's chest is just mis-transformed? He's got a split down the middle of his chest.
It looks to me like that hinge allows the ant head to split open so you can pull his robot head out and store the ant mandibles, then closes back up. Nothing more.
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:18pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Still doesn't make it look "good".
That's subjective. Less stylised and more "realistic" is what they are going for nowadays though.
When it is prehistoric fictional bugs tho they shouldn't really be modernised bugs. The new live action film will likely butcher them enough that way as is.
Some Beast Modes didn't even exist during the Prehistoric era. Authenticity to the period was never a serious consideration.
Very true.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:20pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Sadly inferno looks off like the other beast wars stuff. I'll likely get him for the royalty but if I still had the original I'd be passing. Unlike Tigatron he doesn't have a better mp option or even a Red substitute yet.
I'm still curious how far down the MP line the legendary Shelfwarmer will be?
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:24pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Sadly inferno looks off like the other beast wars stuff. I'll likely get him for the royalty but if I still had the original I'd be passing. Unlike Tigatron he doesn't have a better mp option or even a Red substitute yet.
I'm still curious how far down the MP line the legendary Shelfwarmer will be?
Well if mp rattrap was teased 18 mps ago... Hahahaha
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:26pm CDT
Short Circuit wrote:Immortal Starscream wrote:just realized screamer doesn't have any minicon ports. How does PRIME Bulkhead have minicon ports, but ARMADA Starscream not?
Because they aren't mini con ports. They're just pegs with holes that aren't compatible. I tried.
I did too when I got my Bulkhead. But with the square base around the peg that has the divots in the corners, added to the hole in the middle, it still LOOKS like a minicon port.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 5th, 2022 @ 12:30pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Well if mp rattrap was teased 18 mps ago... Hahahaha
Indeed. Meanwhile, MP Tigatron was out nearly two years ago now. There's only fourteen characters in Season One. Takara are so close to actually finishing one MP line. If they decided to pull their finger out