First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears

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Thanks to Sowndwave76 and jtprime17, we have our first look at the upcoming Deluxe Class Gears. This highly anticipated rendition of the resident Autobot pessimist is looking every inch to be cartoon faithful, while still adhering to the Deluxe class size of most recent minibots. For his first mainline figure since 2014, and only third in the last forty years, Gears looks to be a great addition to the line. Check out the pictures below, and let us know if you'll be adding him to your collection when he's officially released.

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Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175283)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 14th, 2024 @ 10:07pm CST

Roadbuster wrote:Would this be his first new figure since the original?

There was also Thrilling 30 Gears back in 2014.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175285)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 14th, 2024 @ 10:41pm CST

Gears looks great. Except the windows, having windows like that is a disappointment on a Deluxe.

I hope they either change that, or do a 2-pack of him and Brawn with clear windows. If not, hopefully it won't be too bad to kitbash... At least we're finally getting him, and he's better than the T30 version.

Gods am I looking forward to Origins Wheeljack. The Origins figures have been a very very delicious treat. And I still hope they use the Origins thing as a vector for really releasing SIEGE Starscream.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175290)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on January 14th, 2024 @ 11:57pm CST

Gears isn't a character I'm attached to, but that figure looks like a good representation of him!

Maybe I'll get a retool down the line if there is one

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175293)
Posted by Bounti76 on January 15th, 2024 @ 12:49am CST

Razorbeast88 wrote:Gears isn't a character I'm attached to, but that figure looks like a good representation of him!

Maybe I'll get a retool down the line if there is one

Swerve would be the obvious choice, though I could possibly see Small Foot or Jipe in a Selects release or part of some multipack.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175294)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 15th, 2024 @ 1:12am CST

Bot mode looks a bit building blockish not in a good way and vehicle mode wheels look pretty bad. Will probably still pick it up at some point though. Thrilling 30 looks a bit better other the head looking like some kind of matrix

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175296)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 15th, 2024 @ 2:33am CST

I wonder if the specification of "G1 Universe" on the box there is a new thing that's happening with all the G1 going forwards, or if that's just because literally the word "Gears" on it's own is hard to trademark. In regards to the figure itself:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Gears isn't a character I'm attached to, but that figure looks like a good representation of him!

Maybe I'll get a retool down the line if there is one

Exactly my thoughts.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175300)
Posted by Emerje on January 15th, 2024 @ 3:06am CST

Oh hey, year 3 and they've finally started using "G1 Universe" on the G1 characters.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gears looks great. Except the windows, having windows like that is a disappointment on a Deluxe.

As someone who absolutely hates clear moving parts I am so happy to see opaque windows on this figure. Frankly I don't like clear windows to begin with, I don't need to see a bunch of robot parts on the inside. If they aren't going to sculpt an interior then clear windows are pointless.

Bounti76 wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Gears isn't a character I'm attached to, but that figure looks like a good representation of him!

Maybe I'll get a retool down the line if there is one

Swerve would be the obvious choice, though I could possibly see Small Foot or Jipe in a Selects release or part of some multipack.

Yeah, as soon as I saw this I was trying to figure out if his big noggin was an essential part for the truck mode and it doesn't appear to be so Swerve should be a shoo-in. I know Swerve usually has the big built up parts on each side of his head, I just hope this mold doesn't require them be actually part of his head. Only issue I really see is Swerve's character design includes the wheels where Gears' removes them. Not sure how they'd work around that if at all.

Emerje

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175307)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 15th, 2024 @ 4:41am CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gears looks great. Except the windows, having windows like that is a disappointment on a Deluxe.

How come? For once, Hasbro won't force clear plastics. No weak points, no colors mismatch. Regardless, if that baby-blue is too plain for the windows, there will be the inevitable Reprolabels set that will make them more fancy looking.

On my end, this Gears is a sure buy.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175312)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 15th, 2024 @ 6:00am CST

Phew, glad I can skip one of these. I have always hated Gear's cartoon design, and this one encapsulates that ugliness perfectly. The T30 one will continue to be the good Gears on my Lost Light crew shelf.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175329)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on January 15th, 2024 @ 10:22am CST

I like him and will pick him up as soon as I see him on the pegs OR available online.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175333)
Posted by o.supreme on January 15th, 2024 @ 12:07pm CST

This Gears Deluxe (or rather should I say, the way its being received) I truly find fascinating. However, to avoid hate; before I make a single statement, the fandom necessitates I give a couple of paragraphs of explanation and context to preface said statement.

I am a fan of the original TF animated series. However…that being said, I am not (like many fans) looking to complete a modern equivalence of the 1984-1986 toy line/animated series. What you see in my signature, that’s it. THOSE are the holes in my collection. Nevertheless, if something comes along that seems interesting enough, I'll get it. The Armorizer TF’s for this year seem to fit that description.

I also appreciate that the entirety of Legacy (from 2022-2024) is celebrating the NOW 40 year history of the franchise. There seems to be something for everyone, and more is coming, and I personally think that is great.

Now…all that having been said… I think it’s truly fascinating how a single toy like Gears can generate more excitement than seemingly the entirety of Legacy United Wave 1 which (for better or worse) had no OG series characters in it. I mean Gears (along with Huffer) were the characters Nobody liked as a kid in the 80’s. Sure some had the toys, but I can guarantee you NO-BO-DY liked Gears. My memory may be getting spotty in some areas, but that sentiment I know to be true. But, because this is the first solid interpretation of this character since the original (not discounting the 2014 toy, it was just stylized for the then current fiction), it is filling a much-needed hole in many fans collections (ironically not my own however, because as stated earlier, my collection is a very specific type). I predict that as soon as this becomes available for pre-order. It will sell out very quickly on all online retailers, within a few hours (except perhaps Amazon).

So please, don’t take this as me berating, or looking down on all “non G1” toys or characters. I enjoy many of them and have them in my collection. It’s just an observation I happen to find really fascinating.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175334)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on January 15th, 2024 @ 12:15pm CST

I'm not all that into Gears either, but he actually looks pretty good! He'd certainly add some vibrant color to the shelf.

Still, not high on my want list and would have gotten far more excited over Powerglide!

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175335)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 15th, 2024 @ 12:47pm CST

o.supreme wrote:Gears

So, I think I can actually explain this.

1) we are on a forum, same as TFW, same as other TF sites. Forums have become a more outdated source of online community, even if they are still used and are useful. And as a result, a majority of forum users tend to be people who have been online long enough to have been part of them when they were still the main thing. In simpler terms: a majority tend to hedge more towards middle age. Younger onliners tend to hedge towards reddit, twitter, etc.

2) as a result of point 1, excitement tends towards a middle-aged demographic, which for us more hedges towards G1 and maybe Beast Wars. My age demographic for instance should hedge towards Unicron trilogy, but actually hedges towards movi/Animated/Prime, my main timeline.

3) Gears was on the Kingdom art, he was for the line, and was cancelled. This is one of those cases where a cancelled figure actually ends up coming out years later, a rarity, hence additional interest from multiple demographics. In a similar vein, if say Animated Marauder Megatron was somehow actually released today, it would be a huge deal for all sorts of people, even if they aren't a big Animated fan.

4) Gears is a case of being one of the few needed to complete a cast in the same design era/style. For many of the Legacy lines outside of Beast Wars, they are starting anew with a new design team, so it's naturally a little harder/more limiting when you have smaller numbers. Many are starting new; Gears is nearing the end of another group.

5) There was no "G1 universe" figure in united wave 1, so it's also a case of some excitement for having one in the next wave.

Just my observation as well. Being part of 3 different TF communities (seibertron, Twitter, in-person friend groups), you notice some of this as well, including the diverse range of excitement. I have one buddy for instance who loves Gears because he collects almost exclusively in the 84-86 range, plus a love of RiD2001. I have another who is indifferent, because he is a Soundwave lover of all shapes and sizes, and cares little outside of that and the Prime show. Another buddy yet is a lover of Diaclone and things that scale with 3-3/4" figures, so he is also a case of "cool", but indifferent. Just as a for-instance.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175337)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on January 15th, 2024 @ 2:19pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Gears

So, I think I can actually explain this.

1) we are on a forum, same as TFW, same as other TF sites. Forums have become a more outdated source of online community, even if they are still used and are useful. And as a result, a majority of forum users tend to be people who have been online long enough to have been part of them when they were still the main thing. In simpler terms: a majority tend to hedge more towards middle age. Younger onliners tend to hedge towards reddit, twitter, etc.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175338)
Posted by bluecatcinema on January 15th, 2024 @ 2:28pm CST

Legacy Gears doesn't look half bad.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175339)
Posted by First-Aid on January 15th, 2024 @ 2:36pm CST

AcademyofDrX wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Gears

So, I think I can actually explain this.

1) we are on a forum, same as TFW, same as other TF sites. Forums have become a more outdated source of online community, even if they are still used and are useful. And as a result, a majority of forum users tend to be people who have been online long enough to have been part of them when they were still the main thing. In simpler terms: a majority tend to hedge more towards middle age. Younger onliners tend to hedge towards reddit, twitter, etc.

GET OFF MY DAMN DIGITAL LAWN!

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175342)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 15th, 2024 @ 2:52pm CST

o.supreme wrote:NO-BO-DY liked Gears

You should specify that a bit. Nobody liked cartoon Gears. For me, as a Marvel G1 fan, he's 1 of my favorite characters, just based on his 1 starring role in issue #3, which guest-starred Spider-Man.

I had and liked the T30 version, but I always thought Gears should have been bigger. So I'm very happy with this new release. It would have been amazing (no pun intended) if we got a small Spider-Man figure to go with him. I would have paid voyager price for that.

Gears will be very much welcome in my collection, a proper deluxe has been a long time coming.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175343)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 15th, 2024 @ 2:58pm CST

AcademyofDrX wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Gears

So, I think I can actually explain this.

1) we are on a forum, same as TFW, same as other TF sites. Forums have become a more outdated source of online community, even if they are still used and are useful. And as a result, a majority of forum users tend to be people who have been online long enough to have been part of them when they were still the main thing. In simpler terms: a majority tend to hedge more towards middle age. Younger onliners tend to hedge towards reddit, twitter, etc.

I was trying to be gentle in my opinion on the state of forum users :-P

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175345)
Posted by o.supreme on January 15th, 2024 @ 3:13pm CST

^Not saying your points aren't valid. But to be fair, I WAS looking at observations from the perspective of multiple online sites, social media included, not just this one forum for old people like myself.

.

Sure I'm not on tweeter, or My face, or instacart, But you dont have to be a member to observe online reactions.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175346)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 15th, 2024 @ 3:16pm CST

o.supreme wrote:^Not saying your points aren't valid. But to be fair, I WAS looking at observations from the perspective of multiple online sites, social media included, not just this one forum for old people like myself. .

Sure I'm not on tweeter, or My face, or instacart, But you dont have to be a member to observe online reactions.

Wasn't trying to imply anything negative on that end either, just my observations as well

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175347)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 15th, 2024 @ 3:25pm CST

I'd say it's safe to assume that a decent part of the excitement for this Gears figure is due to it's resemblance to the animation model. This is clearly an important design aspect of these updated G1 figures.
Which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Think about how many people were unhappy that the initial Legacy Animated figures had been stripped of some (to a lot) their original design elements... A lot of people have preferred the SS versions over the mainline versions of the RotB characters...
Look at the newer (if not newest) line of MotU figures (Filmation)-- Most of those are easily the most screen-accurate versions to date. A couple may be debatable, but the intent was to make them as cartoon-accurate as possible.

Companies have come to realize that the collector consumer group will dish-out money for products that are closely visually aligned with the corresponding original cartoon shows (or movies).

I didn't love Gears. It's the appearance of this new version that makes it an instant preorder for me. Even if I wasn't skipping 90+% of Legacy United (but I gladly will), I'd be getting this figure.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175350)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on January 15th, 2024 @ 5:52pm CST

That's basically my take on Gears, my excitement level for it isn't because of the character so much as it's something that has caught my eye in a year filled with nothing aimed towards me. As of yet.
I'm not feeling Hound at all and he's bene my most wanted for ages, well ever since 2019 when I got back into buying them.

But out of all the rumors, I've not heard anything that really interests me for 2024. Which is unfortunate because 2023 wasn't filled with greatness terms of what I focus on either. Outside of Brawn, Cosmos and Origins Jazz it was a fairly slow uneventful year for me.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175351)
Posted by DeathReviews on January 15th, 2024 @ 5:57pm CST

Since I'm trying to make an updated-figure collection of the original G1 Autobot/Decepticon crew, this Gears comes as a welcome addition. They should amend the article to say,'Are you excited to add Gears to your collection, IF Hasbro doesn't mess up the distribution again?'

The alt mode looks mis-transformed. The tires are definitely not flush to the wheel wells. I hope in the final version you can hinge them deeper than the photo seems to indicate...

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175374)
Posted by william-james88 on January 16th, 2024 @ 10:59am CST

Some fans want to be kept up to date on the latest rumours within the Transformers community while others just want to wait for the cold hard facts. And while both are fine, today we will indulge the more rumour oriented side. We've recently learnt from one of the self defined "leakers" that Legacy United deluxe Cyberverse Chromia will have barely nothing new in terms of molding. This is based on an image seen but not shared. The upcoming figure is said to just be a blue redeco of Animated Prowl with a head resembling previous Chromia heads.

Of course, this is to be taken with a grain of salt as there is no solid proof of this aside from the leaker's record which is 50/50. Of course, this will give us an idea of how reliable leaks are.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175376)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 16th, 2024 @ 1:06pm CST

As a kid, I always thought Gears was the first bot being dropped into Unicron's acid vat at the end of The Movie. Apparently, it wasn't. But considering I don't recall seeing him at all, post-Movie. It might as well have been. That's the only Gears related anecdote I have. A design I recognise. Nothing more.

Meanwhile, today:

Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.
Over the last 3 years Hasbro have done everything they can to steer people to their direct sales channel and away from established independent retailers. In trying to do this they have managed to flood the market with products that people either don't want or just don't want in the quantity they think they do ignoring all advice and feedback from fans and stores alike.
Transformers Titan Class figures have increased slowly in price with Tidal Wave coming in at a suggested retail price of £219.99.
Hasbro want you to pre-order this item in abundance because we are ''fans'' and in their eyes fairly gullible because the last few releases
Black Zarak
Cybertron Metroplex
Decepticon Nemesis
The Ark
Autobot Guardian
have all appeared at half price or less in under 6 months of their initial release with Black Zarak being as low as £69.99 from the Entertainer.
Vote with your wallets, don't give Hasbro the satisfaction of continually preying on your support for an intellectual property you love.
We won't be pre-selling Tidal Wave, if it's available at clearance which is highly likely then we will carry it and bring it to you guys at a reasonable price whilst saving you the pain of finding it on Pulse for next to nothing in a few months.
Hasbro thought we were going to be able to presell 200 units of Tidal Wave to you guys even though we communicated the last 2 releases were horrendously overpriced with little to no interest outside of completist collectors.
It's fair for a company like Hasbro to want your money, what isn't fair is the continual abuse of fans goodwill.
Enough is enough!

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175377)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 16th, 2024 @ 1:15pm CST

william-james88 wrote:Some fans want to be kept up to date on the latest rumours within the Transformers community while others just want to wait for the cold hard facts. And while both are fine, today we will indulge the more rumour oriented side. We've recently learnt from one of the self defined "leakers" that Legacy United deluxe Cyberverse Chromia will have barely nothing new in terms of molding. This is based on an image seen but not shared. The upcoming figure is said to just be a blue redeco of Animated Prowl with a head resembling previous Chromia heads.

Of course, this is to be taken with a grain of salt as there is no solid proof of this aside from the leaker's record which is 50/50. Of course, this will give us an idea of how reliable leaks are.

Remember when bike girls were slender and agile looking, instead of looking like THICK and BEEFY WWE stars?

Pepperidge Farms remember.

>:oP

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175378)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2024 @ 1:49pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:Remember when bike girls were slender and agile looking, instead of looking like THICK and BEEFY WWE stars?

Pepperidge Farms remember.

That's a funny way to describe Animated Prowl. Even the Legacy one.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175380)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on January 16th, 2024 @ 2:05pm CST

Tidal Wave's packaging has seemingly confirmed Armada Universe Galvatron for Legacy: United.

Not particularly surprising, but still cool. I wonder if we'll get Armada Universe Nemesis Prime or, even better, Armada Universe Final Battle Optimus Prime.

Here's the link to the article with pictures, not posting them here in case anyone doesn't want to see upcoming reveals yet.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175386)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2024 @ 2:37pm CST

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Tidal Wave's packaging has seemingly confirmed Armada Universe Galvatron for Legacy: United.

Not particularly surprising, but still cool. I wonder if we'll get Armada Universe Nemesis Prime or, even better, Armada Universe Final Battle Optimus Prime.

Here's the link to the article with pictures, not posting them here in case anyone doesn't want to see upcoming reveals yet.

He was part of leaked listings awhile back, so we knew he was coming.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175387)
Posted by Bounti76 on January 16th, 2024 @ 2:49pm CST

Good news Armada fans and those who are fans of Titan Class robots.... Armada Universe Titan Class Tidal Wave from the Legacy United Line is up for preorder! Check out the official product photos below.

Additionally, via product shots on the back of Tidal Wave's box, we can see how he can combine with Armada Galvatron, who's only been rumored until now.

Are you going to add this highly anticipated Titan to your collection? Let us know what you think below!

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175388)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2024 @ 2:58pm CST

Hasbro Pulse video for Tidal Wave:

They say the box art was inspired by the PS2 game.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175389)
Posted by bluecatcinema on January 16th, 2024 @ 3:02pm CST

Even better than I hoped it would be.

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Posted by o.supreme on January 16th, 2024 @ 3:04pm CST

Havent had a chance to watch the video yet, but I asked a while back, and nobody knew.... Does anyone see any AIRLOCK connectors for Tidal Wave? It seems odd that the design team would go out of there way to include them with The Nemesis (which doesn't have a base mode, and The Ark did not have them either).

But with Tidal Wave, to design a makeshift base Mode and then not include them would definitely be puzzling.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 16th, 2024 @ 4:07pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Remember when bike girls were slender and agile looking, instead of looking like THICK and BEEFY WWE stars?

Pepperidge Farms remember.

That's a funny way to describe Animated Prowl. Even the Legacy one.

Not really.

The original Animated Prowl was thin and slender, while the Legacy one is more stocky and "thick". A simple head-swap on the ORIGINAL Animated Prowl could work to make a fembot, despite the tiny hips. Really not so on Legacy Prowl.

Also, just compare Legacy Prime Arcee with her original design. It's night and day.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175393)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 16th, 2024 @ 4:09pm CST

A separate post just to contain my excitement towards Titan Tidalwave!

Seriously, this thing is a MASTERPIECE. Plus the bonus parts for Megatron and that bonus base mode are GENIUS.

I'm so preordering this when the listing goes live!

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175394)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 16th, 2024 @ 4:11pm CST

I has this in my cart at Gamestop as it went out of stock and wouldn't let me complete the transaction. Never happened to me like that before.

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Posted by william-james88 on January 16th, 2024 @ 6:29pm CST

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I has this in my cart at Gamestop as it went out of stock and wouldn't let me complete the transaction. Never happened to me like that before.

You’ll never forget your first time

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Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2024 @ 8:40pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:

Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.

Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer. Surely they must understand it's those full price pre-orders and release sales that pay for these to be produced. Them saying not to pre-order because it's definitely going to be on clearance later isn't going to tell Hasbro (and more importantly the retailers which is where Hasbro directly gets their money from, not customer sales) these cost too much, it's going to tell them people have lost interest and not to make / stock them anymore. Stuff like this depends on early adopters. That doesn't mean everyone that wants to see more like this has to buy right now, it just means a substantial number still needs to.

Emerje

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 16th, 2024 @ 8:45pm CST

Emerje wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:

Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.

Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer. Surely they must understand it's those full price pre-orders and release sales that pay for these to be produced. Them saying not to pre-order because it's definitely going to be on clearance later isn't going to tell Hasbro (and more importantly the retailers which is where Hasbro directly gets their money from, not customer sales) these cost too much, it's going to tell them people have lost interest and not to make / stock them anymore. Stuff like this depends on early adopters. That doesn't mean everyone that wants to see more like this has to buy right now, it just means a substantial number still needs to.

Emerje

Also, it's not guaranteed that the year's Titan will be quickly clearanced. It was true for the Ark and Cyber Metroplex, but so far, the Nemesis remains constantly at full price and is still selling well.

Was it less produced than the previous two? :-?

Or is the Nemesis simply cooler?

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2024 @ 8:53pm CST

Emerje wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:

Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.

Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer.

And not just any retailer, either. This would be like if BBTS told the US market not to preorder Tidal Wave.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175405)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 16th, 2024 @ 9:11pm CST

Supposedly the figure on the left in this image is the new Trailbreaker for the Autobot 5-pack.
I think it could be legit, and I’m liking how that’s looking.

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 17th, 2024 @ 5:41am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:

Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.

Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer.
And not just any retailer, either. This would be like if BBTS told the US market not to preorder Tidal Wave.

Going by some discussion I saw on Twitter regarding this, for the last several titans, they have sold very little stock at full retail for titans, instead being required to adopt and match sales prices and losing money on the titan class in general. Black Zarak appears to have been the biggest offender

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Posted by sol magnus on January 17th, 2024 @ 8:19am CST

I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 17th, 2024 @ 8:29am CST

sol magnus wrote:I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.

I was kinda hoping for a Road Pig retool to go with Road Rocket

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Posted by sol magnus on January 17th, 2024 @ 8:35am CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.

I was kinda hoping for a Road Pig retool to go with Road Rocket

Hey, that could still happen.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175421)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 17th, 2024 @ 8:44am CST

sol magnus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.

I was kinda hoping for a Road Pig retool to go with Road Rocket

Hey, that could still happen.

Would also be awesome to get a repaint of that as a Laser Cycle Soundwave to go with Jazz.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175422)
Posted by o.supreme on January 17th, 2024 @ 8:54am CST

We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.

As for Tidal Wave. I put it in my Amazon cart, but haven't made the Pre-Order. Unlike Past Years, I'm not sure how my finances will be in July, so I figure if it goes out of stock, it will probably come back at some point.

on a different note...Titans are really unpredictable. Cybertron Metroplex you can still get for nearly 50% (Amazon has it right no for $119). But The Nemesis is going for at a minimum $250 (I've seen as high as $400) on the secondary market, nobody has it in stock for normal retail. Glad I got that one right away. I know Tidal Wave is a must have for Armada fans, but I guess the question really is...how many are there? Of course Hasbro/TT could have produced less based on past years, but I guess we wont know for several months.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175427)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on January 17th, 2024 @ 11:49am CST

o.supreme wrote:We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.

In Wave 1, when Legacy was doing more significant G1-ifying of non-G1 characters (Like Knock Out and Bulkhead), I always thought the Autobot Ark might be used as a retool for Tidal Wave, given the similar-ish head sculpt and cannons.

Obviously, from Wave 2 onward Legacy started making more faithful representations of non-G1 characters, and now we have a very accurate Tidal Wave. But I still wonder if that was originally an idea they had or if they always planned to make an Armada-faithful Tidal Wave.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175428)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2024 @ 12:00pm CST

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
o.supreme wrote:We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.

In Wave 1, when Legacy was doing more significant G1-ifying of non-G1 characters (Like Knock Out and Bulkhead), I always thought the Autobot Ark might be used as a retool for Tidal Wave, given the similar-ish head sculpt and cannons.

Obviously, from Wave 2 onward Legacy started making more faithful representations of non-G1 characters, and now we have a very accurate Tidal Wave. But I still wonder if that was originally an idea they had or if they always planned to make an Armada-faithful Tidal Wave.

It was only the TF: Prime and Animated characters (and, bafflingly, Cyberverse Shadow Striker) that they really G1-ified, because of how heavily stylized their original aesthetics were. The Unicron Trilogy designs were always much closer to the blocky G1 aesthetic, so they never needed to be redesigned to the same extent as the Prime/Animated designs.

Re: First Images of Legacy United Deluxe Gears (2175439)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 17th, 2024 @ 4:52pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
o.supreme wrote:We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.

In Wave 1, when Legacy was doing more significant G1-ifying of non-G1 characters (Like Knock Out and Bulkhead), I always thought the Autobot Ark might be used as a retool for Tidal Wave, given the similar-ish head sculpt and cannons.

Obviously, from Wave 2 onward Legacy started making more faithful representations of non-G1 characters, and now we have a very accurate Tidal Wave. But I still wonder if that was originally an idea they had or if they always planned to make an Armada-faithful Tidal Wave.
It was only the TF: Prime and Animated characters (and, bafflingly, Cyberverse Shadow Striker) that they really G1-ified, because of how heavily stylized their original aesthetics were. The Unicron Trilogy designs were always much closer to the blocky G1 aesthetic, so they never needed to be redesigned to the same extent as the Prime/Animated designs.

They completely dropped the ball on Prime, yet they knock it out of the park for Animated.
Lessons learned I guess?

So, if they go back to Prime at some point, will they succeed? Appart for the excellent Skyquake and Dreadwing, of course.

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