English Translation for Latest Chapter in the Transformers Seacons and Star Convoy Saga Manga

Oof, "Grandfather" was not a good word choice to use since it makes Coelagon sound like he has a familial relation to Halfshell that the two have otherwise never been implied to have before.

The term used is "Jii-sama" (じいさま). While "Jii" can be used to refer to a grandfather, it most basically just refers to an old man. Halfshell uses the "-sama" honorific merely out of respect for Coelagon, not because he's literally Halfshell's grandpa.

So is the chestplate detachable on Selects King Poseidon/Piranacon or is that a nod to the G1 toy kibble?

Skritz wrote:So is the chestplate detachable on Selects King Poseidon/Piranacon or is that a nod to the G1 toy kibble?

Removable.



Emerje

Huh. So I guess this make him the first of the Generations combiner who need some chest kibble like ye old GEEWUN toy, then?

Also, this comic provides some long awaited confirmation on what year Masterforce takes place in: 2020, nine years after The Headmasters and five years before Victory.

Sabrblade wrote:Also, this comic provides some long awaited confirmation on what year Masterforce takes place in: 2020, nine years after The Headmasters and five years before Victory.

Yes because that totally make sense.

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Also, this comic provides some long awaited confirmation on what year Masterforce takes place in: 2020, nine years after The Headmasters and five years before Victory.

Yes because that totally make sense.

It doesn't?

So Angolmois Energy and Star Power are of the same nature... duh, Primus and Unicron

At any rate, note how the Space Pirate Seacons including Halfshell have been rebuilt into new forms... wait, where's Seaphantom?

:EDIT: And well well, not only has Turtler overcome the limitation of only combining with one of each Seacon type, when he does combine with all 5 types it's a "Perfect Mode".

Really hoping that is teasing a God Neptune!

Are we still getting super megatron?

Master Farr 1 wrote:Are we still getting super megatron?

We should be, the comic appears to be leading up to that.

With the reveal of Super Megatron's toy comes two more manga chapters from TakaraTomy Mall.

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810139768/comics_first-vol01.pdf

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810139768/comics_first-vol02.pdf

Listing the oddities:

- Unicron clones, based on Cybertron Unicron
- Sparkbots and Dead End/Bug
- What is Pretender Bumblebee doing there?
- Hey, White Lune is back... who's the boy?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Listing the oddities:

- Unicron clones, based on Cybertron Unicron

And colored like the United "Ark Unicron" version of the toy.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- What is Pretender Bumblebee doing there?

Maybe as part of some yet-to-be-disclosed plan to fix the continuity error of him being Bumblebee (with his Pretender helmet) instead of Goldbug during the "Controverse" manga story that was also set in 2011.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- Hey, White Lune is back... who's the boy?

Since she looks younger than in this in the Legends manga, I'm thinking the boy is a young White Leo and that Convoy and Megs are in the past on Planet Beast.

Takara Tomy has posted a new manga on their site. This continues the story that started in the Generations Selects Star Convoy manga. The links to the pages are below. What is interesting here is that we see two features that the Super Megatron toy will most probably possess (I say that only because we have yet to see stock images confirming it). Firstly, we see that he has two faces with different insignias on his forehead. But more importantly, we see the tank mode which takes influence from the Ultra Megatron design. This would explain the tank threads found on the toy and we can see what lies inside the cannon when the front is folded back.

Here are the links:

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... -vol01.pdf
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/490 ... -vol02.pdf

And here is an image of the tank.

The fusion Cannon can fold into a Triple Turret for his tank mode, also the Fusion Cockpit cannon is a new mold, too.

And people still think Super Megatron wasn't the main inspiration for the Animated Megatron! Add facial 'hair' and the resemble become uncanny.

No base mode pics in what has been shown so far tho megatrons cockpit might not work as well as galvatronus in fan base mode.

blackeyedprime wrote:No base mode pics in what has been shown so far tho megatrons cockpit might not work as well as galvatronus in fan base mode.

Why would Super Megatron have a base mode? He's only a Voyager and never had one in the original Return of Convoy fiction.

Meh, base modes are always goofy anyway. Anything can be called a 'base mode' with enough kibble fudgery and space to put Micromasters!

Albatross250 wrote:The fusion Cannon can fold into a Triple Turret for his tank mode, also the Fusion Cockpit cannon is a new mold, too.

Close, the triple cannon is a separate piece that "hides" inside the main cannon in both Super Megatron modes it looks like. In the Ultra Megatron modes, the piece detaches and is placed on the back of the cockpit for Tank Mode, but I can't really tell where on Robot Mode.

Sabrblade wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:No base mode pics in what has been shown so far tho megatrons cockpit might not work as well as galvatronus in fan base mode.

Why would Super Megatron have a base mode? He's only a Voyager and never had one in the original Return of Convoy fiction.

Why wouldn't this figure have one? Unless the new tooling has made the nerfed the old toys extra mode. Plus the Manga with these figures usually shows off the extra weird modes (like overlord weaponosing himself with another overlord) and even with the new tooling, not much of a mode is considered base modes on titan returns figures which this is based off. Plus ultimately this is not a return of convoy fiction super megatron, just a homage (and at that an undersized one if he has supposed to be the same size as star convoy in the original fiction.

blackeyedprime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:No base mode pics in what has been shown so far tho megatrons cockpit might not work as well as galvatronus in fan base mode.

Why would Super Megatron have a base mode? He's only a Voyager and never had one in the original Return of Convoy fiction.

Why wouldn't this figure have one? Unless the new tooling has made the nerfed the old toys extra mode.

What? Dude, Titans Return Galvatron didn't have a base mode.

And here's the translation of the manga:

Comics: Translations of "Generations Selects" Super Megatron Comic courtesy of BWTF.com

One slight oddity, in that Turtler/King Poseidon was never referred to as a Godmaster. Maybe he meant surpassing the Godmasters in terms of power.

Okay, so, that flashback at the beginning is actually showing something we've only ever been told about but have never actually seen: The sealing away of Unicron within the Triple Z Point.

Evidently, before he was sealed here, he tried to revive himself with a new body made from his minions (who all resemble Ark Unicron from United and the Sparkbots from Kiss Players Position), and with his new body being based on his upcoming Planet Class toy.

This newly-written return of Unicron after G1 Season 3 but before his being sealed within the Triple Z Point may now actually shed some light on something that was mentioned multiple times in Beast Wars Neo but which was never given an actual timeframe: When Unicron took a bite out of Planet Dinosaur, home planet of the Predacons' ancestors. Originally, this event would've had to have been assumed to have occurred at some point before TFTM since Unicron was in his Planet Mode body when he bit Planet Dinosaur. But now, with this story showing Unicron attempting to come back in a new planet-moded body during 2011 before his being sealed away in the Triple Z Point, that opens the door for the possibility of Unicron biting into Dinosaur at some point in 2011 before he was sealed away.

I'm a bit late to the party with this announcement, but Super Megatron looks pretty good. I was originally going to buy the Siege Voyager to replace my old Combiner Wars Leader as my main collection display Megatron, but I think I'll get this one instead.

Two more installments of the Super Megatron manga:

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810139768/comics_second-vol01.pdf
https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810139768/comics_second-vol02.pdf

G1 Optimus reading the Covenant of Primus aboard the Ark

Blue Big Convoy

The Primus Vanguard featuring a whole host of crazy cameos

Black Megatron cameo

The Alpha Matrix and the Silver Matrix striking one another

A flash forward to the Cybertron Alliance plus Artemis and Moon

Ultra Megatron Omega

Primus himself!!!

A whole hoard of Seacons

Primacron with what look like some primitive Beastformers


WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE?!!!!

All the curve balls...

The return of the Primus Vanguard, last seen in Magna Convoy's storyline is unexpected... but apparently having blue is a prerequisite. I spot:

- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise
- Sky Claw redeco of Prime Legion Smokescreen
- BWII Dirge
- MP Bluestreak
- Prime Dark Energon Wheeljack
- TR Blurr
- T30 Brainstorm
- SonicBlue Bumble
- Siege Holo Mirage
- G1 Blue Bacchus
- Prime Hot Shot
- G1 Rumble
- a blue redeco of TR Sky Shadow?
- G1 Tracks
- G1 Dirge
- G1 Soundwave
- Straxus

And Lucky Draw Primus makes a return.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise

I'm really surprised they went with Energon Omega Sentinel when Magna Convoy's ship was also the Astrotrain mold. I guess they wanted to go bigger.

Emerje

Not only did we get a new look at Selects Super Megatron from Takara Tomy Mall but we also got another two part web manga furthering the story of Star Convoy versus Super Megatron and all his forms (the first part came be read here. To say there's a lot going on in this installment would be an understatement, it's almost overwhelming! To help make a little sense of what's going on I'm going to enlist a bit of help from Seibertronians JelZe GoldRabbit and Sabrblade from the forums further down below the images to help explain some of who and what we're seeing.

Sabrblade wrote:G1 Optimus reading the Covenant of Primus aboard the Ark
Blue Big Convoy
The Primus Vanguard featuring a whole host of crazy cameos
Black Megatron cameo
The Alpha Matrix and the Silver Matrix striking one another
A flash forward to the Cybertron Alliance plus Artemis and Moon
Ultra Megatron Omega
Primus himself!!!
A whole hoard of Seacons
Primacron with what look like some primitive Beastformers

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The return of the Primus Vanguard, last seen in Magna Convoy's storyline is unexpected... but apparently having blue is a prerequisite. I spot:

- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise
- Sky Claw redeco of Prime Legion Smokescreen
- BWII Dirge
- MP Bluestreak
- Prime Dark Energon Wheeljack
- TR Blurr
- T30 Brainstorm
- SonicBlue Bumble
- Siege Holo Mirage
- G1 Blue Bacchus
- Prime Hot Shot
- G1 Rumble
- a blue redeco of TR Sky Shadow?
- G1 Tracks
- G1 Dirge
- G1 Soundwave
- Straxus

And Lucky Draw Primus makes a return.

And it all ends with a big "to be continued". Just when you think these manga can't get any crazier they find new ways to outdo themselves. As always let us know what you think of these new pages in the Energon Pub forums!

So, what are your bets people: next one is God Neptune set?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All the curve balls...

The return of the Primus Vanguard, last seen in Magna Convoy's storyline is unexpected... but apparently having blue is a prerequisite. I spot:

- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise
- Sky Claw redeco of Prime Legion Smokescreen
- BWII Dirge
- MP Bluestreak
- Prime Dark Energon Wheeljack
- TR Blurr
- T30 Brainstorm
- SonicBlue Bumble
- Siege Holo Mirage
- G1 Blue Bacchus
- Prime Hot Shot
- G1 Rumble
- a blue redeco of TR Sky Shadow?
- G1 Tracks
- G1 Dirge
- G1 Soundwave
- Straxus

And Lucky Draw Primus makes a return.

I was very curious who that red white and blue Sentinel Prime character was/is myself.

LordBludgeon wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All the curve balls...

The return of the Primus Vanguard, last seen in Magna Convoy's storyline is unexpected... but apparently having blue is a prerequisite. I spot:

- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise
- Sky Claw redeco of Prime Legion Smokescreen
- BWII Dirge
- MP Bluestreak
- Prime Dark Energon Wheeljack
- TR Blurr
- T30 Brainstorm
- SonicBlue Bumble
- Siege Holo Mirage
- G1 Blue Bacchus
- Prime Hot Shot
- G1 Rumble
- a blue redeco of TR Sky Shadow?
- G1 Tracks
- G1 Dirge
- G1 Soundwave
- Straxus

And Lucky Draw Primus makes a return.

I was very curious who that red white and blue Sentinel Prime character was/is myself.

I think the head is Ptero's.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise
- a blue redeco of TR Sky Shadow?

We can't quite see them close enough to make out the alt mode kibble for certain, so I could be wrong, but isn't the "blue Sky Shadow" the Legends Dai Atlas from last year?

Also, Emerje pointed out that the Primal Vanguard ship was also Astrotrain mold, so I went back and looked at it's previous appearance out of curiosity, and noticed that it's visible robot mode kibble includes non-matching colors on it's hands that match up with Omega Sentinel here (assuming I remember how this thing transforms correctly, I don't own this mold), which is an odd detail to include on a comic-only recolor we wouldn't ever see transform:
So I'm going to go one further and say that they don't just share a mold, but that this new Omega Sentinel and that ship are one and the same.

Edit: Oh, and the last panel also includes a barely-obscured-by-shadows Scylla from the new Tentakil, so there's that set of repaints basically confirmed.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I think the head is Ptero's.

Well spotted

Nemesis Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise
- a blue redeco of TR Sky Shadow?

We can't quite see them close enough to make out the alt mode kibble for certain, so I could be wrong, but isn't the "blue Sky Shadow" the Legends Dai Atlas from last year?

The mold is all Sky Shadow, especially in the gun shoulders that Dai Atlas doesn't have. The colors are his tho.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Edit: Oh, and the last panel also includes a barely-obscured-by-shadows Scylla from the new Tentakil, so there's that set of repaints basically confirmed.

Right, she and the other Seacons (you can see some of their glowing eyes behind her) were in the same tubes Galvatron was in. Looks like they finally broke free. Probably no coincidence at all that they're "primitives" and in a panel next to Primacron. They're going to need a new Autobot to fight off all these new Decepticons, obviously Star Convoy can't do it alone. May be a good time to move Armada Convoy from concept to real figure.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure someone on the Radicons custom page of TFW2005 had done a similar custom of Black Shadow as Dai Atlas a while back.

Just because we see things like that in the Legends comics regrettably doesn't mean we'll get them as official toys.

We've seen a repaint of Titans Return Hardhead with Getaway's Titanmaster as Bludgeon and Full Tilt with the Titanmaster from Quake as Sureshot but they were never released.

I like seeing G1 Rodimus Prime as Primus and his 'chariot.

I hate Primacron. He and Alpha Trion were everything that was wrong with the G1 cartoon.

is that scylla in the last cell?

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Edit: Oh, and the last panel also includes a barely-obscured-by-shadows Scylla from the new Tentakil, so there's that set of repaints basically confirmed.

Right, she and the other Seacons (you can see some of their glowing eyes behind her) were in the same tubes Galvatron was in. Looks like they finally broke free. Probably no coincidence at all that they're "primitives" and in a panel next to Primacron. They're going to need a new Autobot to fight off all these new Decepticons, obviously Star Convoy can't do it alone. May be a good time to move Armada Convoy from concept to real figure.

Emerje

It looks like King Poseidon has switched to fighting Megatron since he defends Star Convoy at one point, so now I think all faction allegiances are off here.

Skritz wrote:So, what are your bets people: next one is God Neptune set?

I was hoping the same, and that's what it really looks like it could be

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:All the curve balls...

The return of the Primus Vanguard, last seen in Magna Convoy's storyline is unexpected... but apparently having blue is a prerequisite. I spot:

- an Omega Sentinel redeco of TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime, with a head I don't recognise
- Sky Claw redeco of Prime Legion Smokescreen
- BWII Dirge
- MP Bluestreak
- Prime Dark Energon Wheeljack
- TR Blurr
- T30 Brainstorm
- SonicBlue Bumble
- Siege Holo Mirage
- G1 Blue Bacchus
- Prime Hot Shot
- G1 Rumble
- a blue redeco of TR Sky Shadow?
- G1 Tracks
- G1 Dirge
- G1 Soundwave
- Straxus

And Lucky Draw Primus makes a return.

The bot kneeling down with Blue Big Convoy and Brainstorm looks to be G1 Skids. Red foot, black knee, door wing and shoulder wheel. It even has the little piece that hangs down on the end of the door wing.

Primacron mentions 'Big Ban' in one of last panels. Wasn't that an unused Transformer from Return of Convoy or something?

datguy86 wrote:Primacron mentions 'Big Ban' in one of last panels. Wasn't that an unused Transformer from Return of Convoy or something?

"Big Ban" is also the Japanese way of saying "Big Bang", which Primacron could simply be referring to the creation of the universe, as he also mentions Zodiac, the energy that has the power to create stars and planets.

Sabrblade wrote:

datguy86 wrote:Primacron mentions 'Big Ban' in one of last panels. Wasn't that an unused Transformer from Return of Convoy or something?

"Big Ban" is also the Japanese way of saying "Big Bang", which Primacron could simply be referring to the creation of the universe, as he also mentions Zodiac, the energy that has the power to create stars and planets.

Kinda figured, but I know these comics love to throw in a ton of references.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:So, what are your bets people: next one is God Neptune set?

I was hoping the same, and that's what it really looks like it could be

If it comes as a UW styled box set I'd be much more apt to get it, rather than 5 individual releases again, but I'm pretty much obligated to get all combiners either way...just pointing out my wishes/preferences. I would hope we get another heroic combiner before God Neptune however, or things will continue to get out of balance.

o.supreme wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:So, what are your bets people: next one is God Neptune set?

I was hoping the same, and that's what it really looks like it could be

If it comes as a UW styled box set I'd be much more apt to get it, rather than 5 individual releases again, but I'm pretty much obligated to get all combiners either way...just pointing out my wishes/preferences. I would hope we get another heroic combiner before God Neptune however, or things will continue to get out of balance.

With what molds we have available, the only possible contender would be Road Caesar. Take Breakdown and Jazz as legs, a torso, and retool the lot of them

I'm sure Landcross would be easy enough as well. Sure one of them is a boat, but the rest are vehicles that are pretty easily repainted by past CW/PotP molds. I'm sure the boat could easily be remolded from something already existing. Either they could go the Liokaiser route and sacrifice a member, or just have 5 of them, and the 6th be modified as a weapon.

At one time I thought a new Road Caesar could actually include Star Saber as its voyager (go the CW Liokaiser route), but now that we have commander class figures I'd much rather see Star Saber & Deathsaurus as CC. Even still, you could add a couple new members to the Brainmaster team to make a 5 bot' Road Caesar.

o.supreme wrote:I'm sure Landcross would be easy enough as well. Sure one of them is a boat, but the rest are vehicles that are pretty easily repainted by past CW/PotP molds. I'm sure the boat could easily be remolded from something already existing. Either they could go the Liokaiser route and sacrifice a member, or just have 5 of them, and the 6th be modified as a weapon.

At one time I thought a new Road Caesar could actually include Star Saber as its voyager (go the CW Liokaiser route), but now that we have commander class figures I'd much rather see Star Saber & Deathsaurus as CC. Even still, you could add a couple new members to the Brainmaster team to make a 5 bot' Road Caesar.

Here's my idea tho: retool the torso in such a way it can form the arms as well. PotP Grimlock pulled that off rather nicely so can be done with proper planning.

Or Legends God Bomber? A Leader figure being the body & Arms, with slots for deluxe legs