Don Murphy Hints at Another Transformers Trilogy
Wednesday, July 6th, 2011 10:39AM CDT
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"What happens next? Certainly not a reboot. We haven't lost the Transformers. They didn't grow up or become expensive like Toby Maguire. I don't know what happens next. I'm pretty sure there will be a second trilogy. I am pretty sure it will kick ass. And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots."
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Posted by NemesisMonkeySupreme on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:54am CDT
Man, was he at a "Hobo with Shotgun" screening/cosplay?
Posted by Doubledealer93 on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:55am CDT
Posted by First-Aid on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:55am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:56am CDT
El Duque wrote:And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots."
Aw, what's wrong Don? Feeling's hurt because some people dared to have complaints about your film?
You know what, you're right. Shia and his stuttering was the real reason I loved the movies. Hell, get Ashton Kutcher for the next trilogy and it'll really kick ass.
Posted by RiddlerJ on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:56am CDT
El Duque wrote:And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots."
Aw, what's wrong Don? Feeling's hurt because some people dared to have complaints about your film?
You know what, you're right. Shia and his stuttering was the real reason I loved the movies. Hell, get Ashton Kutcher for the next trilogy and it'll really kick ass.
Posted by soundwave3.0 on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:59am CDT
Posted by Bleak5170 on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by Cyber Bishop on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:04am CDT
Bleak5170 wrote:Sweet, no re-boot. That's all I needed to hear.
Agreed.. There are plenty of characters that can be introduced as the new villains...
Main/leaders
Galvatron (unicron could reformat him somehow)
Thunderwing
Jihaxus
Unicron
Soldiers..
Come on, take your pick..
They could bring Kup in to fill Ironhide's spot..
A lot of potential here.
Posted by masterprime13 on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:11am CDT
Posted by Doubledealer93 on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:19am CDT
Posted by The Dude on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:20am CDT
I don't dislike the Michael Bay trilogy, but he has run that whole continuity into the ground! Please give us a new continuity, and new robot designs! G1 is a great mythology, and it deserves to be truly, faithfully represented on film!
Posted by D-340 on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:26am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:El Duque wrote:And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots."
Aw, what's wrong Don? Feeling's hurt because some people dared to have complaints about your film?
You know what, you're right. Shia and his stuttering was the real reason I loved the movies. Hell, get Ashton Kutcher for the next trilogy and it'll really kick ass.
This. I mean, god forbid, a Transformers movie be about the Transformers. Who wants that?!?!?!?
Posted by Tigertrack on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:39am CDT
D-340 wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:El Duque wrote:And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots."
Aw, what's wrong Don? Feeling's hurt because some people dared to have complaints about your film?
You know what, you're right. Shia and his stuttering was the real reason I loved the movies. Hell, get Ashton Kutcher for the next trilogy and it'll really kick ass.
This. I mean, god forbid, a Transformers movie be about the Transformers. Who wants that?!?!?!?
Ashton could bring his camera and it could turn into Reflector. And he could go around punking folks while wearing 70's era clothing.
Jason Statham is a good action guy, but he seems a better GI JOE fit than Transformers. Of course, he could always be a soldier, or ex-navy seal of some sort, but not really a main character in the TF Universe that I can think of. He reminds me of Springer in his toughness/cockiness, but yeah, that's about it.
(all said in fun by the way... no seriousness at all).
Posted by Anonymous on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:46am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:46am CDT
The Dude wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Please let it be a reboot!
I don't dislike the Michael Bay trilogy, but he has run that whole continuity into the ground! Please give us a new continuity, and new robot designs! G1 is a great mythology, and it deserves to be truly, faithfully represented on film!
Um, have you seen any G1 epsiodes lately? I bought season 3 on DVD so I could see the episode with Chromia, Elita-1, Moonracer, Firestar, etc- couldn't recall having seen it as a child. I grew up collecting all the toys (unfortunately few of which survive), reading the comic books, watching the shows... they were a nice childhood memory, but seeing them now? Let's just say they're not the pinnacle of animation, continuity, or writing. Personally, I think G1 had it's shot with the 1986 movie.
Posted by sinisteran on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:52am CDT
Posted by leokearon on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:54am CDT
Posted by SoooTrypticon on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:03pm CDT
And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots.
And thus we see the final ugly face of the franchise leaders.
"Thanks for the money, but we still don't give a damn."
Thankfully, I've never contributed to the Bayformers moneypot, and thus can watch from the sidelines and laugh and laugh (and cry).
The reason why they are saying this, and the reason that they HAVE to do this, is because Disney will offer Hasbro a considerable amount for the Transformers Film Franchise.
If Dreamworks doesn't get another film going ASAP to show Hasbro that they're ready to play, then Hasbro will take the property to Dreamwork's rival studio, Disney, who will never ever let go of it. Just like the Muppets.
So this has nothing to do with "Characters," or "More Stories to tell," and has everything to do with cranking out another rushed series of terrible films made by people who don't care.
Hurray.
Posted by sinisteran on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:03pm CDT
Posted by GodMagnus on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:07pm CDT
Posted by vegetacron on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:14pm CDT
Either way, looks like someone broke the mirror and we have another 10 years of bad movies.
Posted by shamone on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:20pm CDT
GodMagnus wrote:Sure, who wants a Transformers movie where the bots are the central characters anyway? We all know how bad Avatar was because they put the main focus on the CGI characters instead of the humans. I mean, why take that risk?
avatar was bad because it was a rehashed script which included every movie writing cliche, and was all spectacle over story
Posted by GodMagnus on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:36pm CDT
shamone wrote:GodMagnus wrote:Sure, who wants a Transformers movie where the bots are the central characters anyway? We all know how bad Avatar was because they put the main focus on the CGI characters instead of the humans. I mean, why take that risk?
avatar was bad because it was a rehashed script which included every movie writing cliche, and was all spectacle over story
I was being sarcastic lol. I'm not going to rehash what I said on other boards about it being just John Carter of Mars, Dances with Wolves, and mostly A Man Called Horse. All movies pretty much rehash of some story somewhere. Avatar was just blatant with the shit. My point though is that Avatar focused on the CGI characters and it still did more than fine. Like Transformers, some people loathed it and some people loved it. A movie with the Transformers as the main focus, and with character development, and not just plot devices is possible.
Posted by shamone on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:41pm CDT
GodMagnus wrote:shamone wrote:GodMagnus wrote:Sure, who wants a Transformers movie where the bots are the central characters anyway? We all know how bad Avatar was because they put the main focus on the CGI characters instead of the humans. I mean, why take that risk?
avatar was bad because it was a rehashed script which included every movie writing cliche, and was all spectacle over story
I was being sarcastic lol. I'm not going to rehash what I said on other boards about it being just John Carter of Mars, Dances with Wolves, and mostly A Man Called Horse. All movies pretty much rehash of some story somewhere. Avatar was just blatant with the shit. My point though is that Avatar focused on the CGI characters and it still did more than fine. Like Transformers, some people loathed it and some people loved it. A movie with the Transformers as the main focus, and with character development, and not just plot devices is possible.
i know you were.
both avatar and the tf trilogy made me realise that story andpriginality are not what matters, but flashy images and big bang powies
Posted by ReDPATH on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:42pm CDT
The only real question left is what it will take money wise for them to keep Bay and/or Shia on board.
Posted by Spleenzorio on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:48pm CDT
SoooTrypticon wrote:And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots.
And thus we see the final ugly face of the franchise leaders.
"Thanks for the money, but we still don't give a damn."
Thankfully, I've never contributed to the Bayformers moneypot, and thus can watch from the sidelines and laugh and laugh (and cry).
The reason why they are saying this, and the reason that they HAVE to do this, is because Disney will offer Hasbro a considerable amount for the Transformers Film Franchise.
If Dreamworks doesn't get another film going ASAP to show Hasbro that they're ready to play, then Hasbro will take the property to Dreamwork's rival studio, Disney, who will never ever let go of it. Just like the Muppets.
So this has nothing to do with "Characters," or "More Stories to tell," and has everything to do with cranking out another rushed series of terrible films made by people who don't care.
Hurray.
Transformers + Toy Story = $
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:50pm CDT
Posted by GodMagnus on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:53pm CDT
ReDPATH wrote:Does it really surprise anyone that they have plans for more?
The only real question left is what it will take money wise for them to keep Bay and/or Shia on board.
Since Bay and or Shia have expressed that this was their last one, money might be too much of an issue. They might want too much to come back.
Posted by ReDPATH on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:57pm CDT
GodMagnus wrote:ReDPATH wrote:Does it really surprise anyone that they have plans for more?
The only real question left is what it will take money wise for them to keep Bay and/or Shia on board.
Since Bay and or Shia have expressed that this was their last one, money might be too much of an issue. They might want too much to come back.
Keep in mind if they do get them back. I believe the rest of the cast will fall into place which means Josh, Tyrese and John will all be back.
Though I'd hope Sam's parents would not be needed in a 4th movie.
Posted by all_the_primes on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on July 6th, 2011 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by Erailea on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:11pm CDT
I'd also like to see a Transformers film actually focus on the Transformers and not the human lead running after his girlfriend / solving all the Cybertronian's issues for them (save the physical battling parts). Who's for kicking it back to Cybertron? There's a crud load of history there! Take one aspect of the past and go with it. The start of the war perhaps? A key event on it? The grapple for control over the Allspark perhaps (if one really wishes to remember at least one of the films)?
Posted by ReDPATH on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:11pm CDT
Not gonna happen.
You would end up having to hope the property became useless and non profitable to the point where only some small indy company would grab the rights to it and make a movie based soley on Cybertron with no human element whatsoever and the effects would probably be meh at best.
People want to see the Transformers thrive and largely the live action movies brought the name back even if they were mediocre at best.
On top of that its obvious that the reason why the human element is so large in the bayverse is not just because of story but the obvious cost of using the Transformers.
You'll never a Bayscope Transformers movie or for that matter any Transformers movie with the budget of any of the 3 films be soley used on the Transformers themselves especially in a movie that might go from 2 hours to 3 hours. It just won't happen.
You could argue though that Optimus himself is a big enough draw for audiences and I think the studios believe the same as long as he has a human counter part which was Sam.
Posted by Bleak5170 on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:12pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:El Duque wrote:And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots."
Aw, what's wrong Don? Feeling's hurt because some people dared to have complaints about your film?
I'm pretty sure the massive amount of revenue this film is generating will help him get over any hurt feelings.
Posted by syphonn on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:18pm CDT
Posted by Cyberion on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:21pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Saw this coming. Hasbro is making WAY too much money to stop making the movies. Everytime they release a movie their TF toy profits quadruple. Dreamworks is making WAY too much money to stop making the movies. Each of the first two resulted in a profit of at least 400%. The REAL question: who will be taking the reigns?
This is true. And now that I'm back into collecting them, I hope that whoever "Ms. Right" is (when I find her), she's nerdy enough to be able to handle that I collect them.
Posted by Bleak5170 on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:24pm CDT
ReDPATH wrote:I just don't see a Transformers live action movie being done without humans.
Not gonna happen.
You would end up having to hope the property became useless and non profitable to the point where only some small indy company would grab the rights to it and make a movie based soley on Cybertron with no human element whatsoever and the effects would probably be meh at best.
.
Agree 100%. You have to have that human element otherwise these movies wouldn't make a fraction of what they do now at the box office. Let's face it - it's only the most hardcore TF fans who want a movie with just Transformers in it. Not only that but the cost of an entire movie with CGI characters in every scene would cost more to make than is realistically possible.
Posted by Erailea on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:24pm CDT
syphonn wrote:The 2007 rekindled my interest in the franchise, but its new like that is slowly driving me away. I'd much rather see what someone else can do with the material unhindered by the mess that is the first 3 movies.
I agree with you. Why limit a new director to what's been done by another? Esepcally when Bay is an action junky and not so much a story guy.
If the rumors of Spielberg are true, he's a guy you can give free reign too and know (for the most part) you'll get something really good. In general though, letting a director explore their own vision of the Transformers would would be a nice outlook on the franchise.
Posted by RhA on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:31pm CDT
Bleak5170 wrote:ReDPATH wrote:I just don't see a Transformers live action movie being done without humans.
Not gonna happen.
You would end up having to hope the property became useless and non profitable to the point where only some small indy company would grab the rights to it and make a movie based soley on Cybertron with no human element whatsoever and the effects would probably be meh at best.
.
Agree 100%. You have to have that human element otherwise these movies wouldn't make a fraction of what they do now at the box office. Let's face it - it's only the most hardcore TF fans who want a movie with just Transformers in it. Not only that but the cost of an entire movie with CGI characters in every scene would cost more to make than is realistically possible.
So what TF series was without humans again? Eh, BM. Yep, that went down with pure fanlove. BWII? No one has seen it. BW Neo? Same. No humans is a proven formula for succes.
Posted by vulgar_wraith on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:33pm CDT
masterprime13 wrote:If there will be a new movie, it should follow G1. Since Megatron is dead, Unicron finds him and revives him, turning him into Galvatron. That would be a nice movie.
I already seen that once how about something new?
Posted by DevastaTTor on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:38pm CDT
Whatever direction they take, I'd just like a little more character development and to continue to tighten up the story plots. DOTM was a lot better than ROTF but there was still room for improvement.
But really, does Don have to keep up the "us against them" things when it comes to the fans? He just comes off as a big douche.
Posted by Doubledealer93 on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:45pm CDT
Bleak5170 wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:El Duque wrote:And I am pretty sure some of you will hate it because it wasn't all bots."
Aw, what's wrong Don? Feeling's hurt because some people dared to have complaints about your film?
I'm pretty sure the massive amount of revenue this film is generating will help him get over any hurt feelings.
I know. Dispite the fact that his films are such a success, he still has to toss in a dig because everyone just didn't love them 100 percent.
And don't get me wrong, I have no problems with humans in a Transformer movie. I do have a problem when the story focuses on things like humans going on job interviews and being embarrassed by their parents or just acting like total clowns as opposed to humans being involved in a Transformer story.
Posted by Erailea on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:45pm CDT
vulgar_wraith wrote:masterprime13 wrote:If there will be a new movie, it should follow G1. Since Megatron is dead, Unicron finds him and revives him, turning him into Galvatron. That would be a nice movie.
I already seen that once how about something new?
Lmao. I tell people that all the time too xD Yes, I'd like them to play more on the history Hasbro began to craft in G1 (and further developed as time went), but repeating G1 defeats the purpose of making expensive live action movies xP
Posted by Cyberion on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:50pm CDT
Bleak5170 wrote:ReDPATH wrote:I just don't see a Transformers live action movie being done without humans.
Not gonna happen.
You would end up having to hope the property became useless and non profitable to the point where only some small indy company would grab the rights to it and make a movie based soley on Cybertron with no human element whatsoever and the effects would probably be meh at best.
.
Agree 100%. You have to have that human element otherwise these movies wouldn't make a fraction of what they do now at the box office. Let's face it - it's only the most hardcore TF fans who want a movie with just Transformers in it. Not only that but the cost of an entire movie with CGI characters in every scene would cost more to make than is realistically possible.
The human element is what makes the movies interesting. If there wasn't a human element, there would really be no point to it all.
Posted by vulgar_wraith on July 6th, 2011 @ 1:59pm CDT
1)Transformers are only made to make money no other reason.
2) So are the movies
3) Every movie has a buget and deadline.So what can they pull off in this frame of time.
4) Human will be in every main stream adaptation of the movie FOREVER.
5)Artistic stand point-Your a director and not a giant fanboy.You have to kinda stay to close material but who wants remake everything the way it was?You have to leave your own mark besides the paycheck you wanna put your own twist on things.
6) Fanboys would mostly likely write a terrible script.I haven't heard anyone on this site come up with a idea that I would like to see on screen.Why?I already seen it.If they pick a new villian does it have to be like it was in 86 movie?We have seen that already.How about a new way or a new villian or take a character from the past that was just a grunt and make him a bad ass for next movie?It really doesnt matter I just wanna see some new ideas I never heard before in it.
I been a fan since the beginning I loved G1 but I also love Beastwars,Energon,Animated and Prime.Along with some of the comics too.I look at the movie like any of the other stories as just a retelling of transformers from someone else point of view.I can see things from multiple point of views.We all love TF's but they need to make money,the movie has to appeal to world audience before the fanboys, and the is a buget and timeline for what they can do.Which does make sense why there are more human scenes than robot scenes.
Posted by chevymantf on July 6th, 2011 @ 2:05pm CDT
i am sorry but DOTM was the absolute worse of the 3 films especially when it came to give the robots screentime, they were hardly in the film! it was mainly the focus on the soldiers at the end, i cant even call it a transformers movie. The bots had better screentime in rotf and in the first movie. the first transformers movie if u skip through all the only human interaction parts which make the movie an extra half hour long than it should be then the robots get actual good screentime. Maybe in a couple yrs time special effects wont be as expensive to animate the robots, a new director will have them desined with less complexity so they are less expensive, and most importantly put the transformers first instead of the fucking humans!
Posted by Erailea on July 6th, 2011 @ 2:16pm CDT
vulgar_wraith wrote:
6) Fanboys would mostly likely write a terrible script.I haven't heard anyone on this site come up with a idea that I would like to see on screen.Why?I already seen it.If they pick a new villian does it have to be like it was in 86 movie?We have seen that already.How about a new way or a new villian or take a character from the past that was just a grunt and make him a bad ass for next movie?It really doesnt matter I just wanna see some new ideas I never heard before in it.
I'll disagree with you there. If you are a good storyteller you can make a good (or great) script without copying the past, even if you are a fangirl/boy. The issue is, not everyone is a good (or gifted) with storytelling. Some people are just great at making the shots (I personally see Bay as someone very talented with crafting shots, but not with story) while others are great with just story. It's harder to find directors who are good/great at both, but it's not impossible. Fans of a book/movie/cartoon tend to have better odds at making movies/cartoons about the things they enjoy because they know the world better than those who don't. They also know what people who like/love the world like to see from them, so they can take that knowledge and use it to craft something that, while new, respects where it came from (die hard old fans will always gripe that it's not the original, there no getting around it).
That's one reason I liked Animated. They looked at Optimus and said "hey, he's always there hero but... let's try something new" and made him a rookie learning as he went and not looked highly upon by the high ranking Primes. Still a hero, but not the confident all knowing one everyone (for the most part) looks up to.
Posted by Bleak5170 on July 6th, 2011 @ 2:31pm CDT
RhA wrote:Bleak5170 wrote:ReDPATH wrote:I just don't see a Transformers live action movie being done without humans.
Not gonna happen.
You would end up having to hope the property became useless and non profitable to the point where only some small indy company would grab the rights to it and make a movie based soley on Cybertron with no human element whatsoever and the effects would probably be meh at best.
.
Agree 100%. You have to have that human element otherwise these movies wouldn't make a fraction of what they do now at the box office. Let's face it - it's only the most hardcore TF fans who want a movie with just Transformers in it. Not only that but the cost of an entire movie with CGI characters in every scene would cost more to make than is realistically possible.
So what TF series was without humans again? Eh, BM. Yep, that went down with pure fanlove. BWII? No one has seen it. BW Neo? Same. No humans is a proven formula for succes.
We're talking big budget Hollywood action moves here - not Saturday morning cartoons. It's a night & day difference.
Posted by JeffX on July 6th, 2011 @ 2:39pm CDT
I could see them even adding in Galvatron without having it involve Megatron turning into Galvatron. Have Galvatron be a separate Decepticon himself and lead Scourge and Cyclonous to Earth to attack the Autobots.