Death's Head Avengers Infinite Wave Available for Pre-Order @ BBTS
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Quick heads up for those of you patiently awaiting a proper Death's Head figure, his Avengers Infinite wave is available for pre-order at site sponsor BigBadToyStore. At the moment no singles are available, only sets of seven and cases of twelve.
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Re: Death's Head Avengers Infinite Wave Available for Pre-Order @ BBTS (1559038)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:06pm CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:06pm CDT
Ahh, Death's Head. You can set him up with your Marvel figures, your Doctor Who figures, or your Transformers figures and he'd still fit in, yes?
Re: Death's Head Avengers Infinite Wave Available for Pre-Order @ BBTS (1559044)
Posted by BeastProwl on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:28pm CDT
Posted by BeastProwl on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:28pm CDT
What does Deathy up there do in the transformers universe? I wanna buy him, but I also want motive...
Re: Death's Head Avengers Infinite Wave Available for Pre-Order @ BBTS (1559045)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:31pm CDT
Apparently he's from some filler material written only for the original Marvel comics run of Transformers, and THEN only for those published in the United Kingdom. I have no idea why, either.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:31pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:What does Deathy up there do in the transformers universe? I wanna buy him, but I also want motive...
Apparently he's from some filler material written only for the original Marvel comics run of Transformers, and THEN only for those published in the United Kingdom. I have no idea why, either.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:16pm CDT
As for what he did:
Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:16pm CDT
Filler? Um, nothing that Death's Head appeared in for Transformers UK was filler. At least, not in the sense that the UK stories were telling their own story, of which he was a crucial aspect, separate from the American stories.Wolfman Jake wrote:BeastProwl wrote:What does Deathy up there do in the transformers universe? I wanna buy him, but I also want motive...
Apparently he's from some filler material written only for the original Marvel comics run of Transformers, and THEN only for those published in the United Kingdom. I have no idea why, either.
As for what he did:
- He tried to get the hit on Galvatron after Rodimus Prime put out a reward on Galvatron's head.
- He murdered Bumblebee.
- He tried to get the hit on Rodimus Prime after the Decepticons put a bounty on Rodimus's head.
- He tried to get the hit on Cyclonus and Scourge after having received a down payment from the Autobots.
- He became an unwilling servant of Unicron.
- He killed Future Shockwave.
- He bartered with Unicron, offering Rodimus Prime and the Matrix in exchange for Death's Head's freedom.
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Posted by Rated X on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:17pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:17pm CDT
Wrong website !!!
Ryan's gonna be pissed. He said only official Transformers brand products get front paged.
Ryan's gonna be pissed. He said only official Transformers brand products get front paged.
Re: Death's Head Avengers Infinite Wave Available for Pre-Order @ BBTS (1559059)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:25pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:25pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Wrong website !!!
Ryan's gonna be pissed. He said only official Transformers brand products get front paged.
Re: Death's Head Avengers Infinite Wave Available for Pre-Order @ BBTS (1559062)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:46pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:46pm CDT
Ryan must be happy to finally see that Deaths Head. One can only hope we see it in the Legends line too. Really psyched for that Eric Masterson Thor.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:52pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:52pm CDT
Yep, like I said, filler. 
It's UK only stories, and yeah...that's just a continuity mess.
Seriously, if you're going to put in Death's Head in your Transformers collection, you might as well throw Spider-Man in there too. And any GI JOE characters you'd like too.
Why were the UK comics padded out with all that additional "content" anyway? Did that happen with any other Marvel books during the 80's when crossing the Atlantic Ocean?
It's UK only stories, and yeah...that's just a continuity mess.
Seriously, if you're going to put in Death's Head in your Transformers collection, you might as well throw Spider-Man in there too. And any GI JOE characters you'd like too.
Why were the UK comics padded out with all that additional "content" anyway? Did that happen with any other Marvel books during the 80's when crossing the Atlantic Ocean?
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Posted by El Duque on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:08pm CDT
Posted by El Duque on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:08pm CDT
I collect nothing but Transformers, and I can assure you Death's Head will be in mine.
Death's Head was originally written my Simon Furman as a disposable character for use in the Transformers UK comic. However, he didn't want Hasbro latching onto DH so my introduced the character in a short that was published prior to his appearance in Transformers. That little bit of foresight on Furman's part is the only reason DH isn't exclusively a Transformers character.
Death's Head was originally written my Simon Furman as a disposable character for use in the Transformers UK comic. However, he didn't want Hasbro latching onto DH so my introduced the character in a short that was published prior to his appearance in Transformers. That little bit of foresight on Furman's part is the only reason DH isn't exclusively a Transformers character.
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Posted by Noideaforaname on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:12pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:12pm CDT
Wake me when he gets a Kreon.
Wait, can he get a Kreon, or am I going to have to wait for Lego or something?
I take it he swapped the green armor for blue and ditched the (seemingly) brown leather gloves after his time with the Transformers? I kinda like that look better...
Wait, can he get a Kreon, or am I going to have to wait for Lego or something?
I take it he swapped the green armor for blue and ditched the (seemingly) brown leather gloves after his time with the Transformers? I kinda like that look better...
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Posted by Seibertron on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:07am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:07am CDT
Death's Head is going to be awesome. I've waited since 1987 for a figure of this guy. Can't wait to have him in my hands at long last.
To those of you bitching about Death's Head news coverage ... I grew up, in the US, reading Transformers UK comics when I could get my hands on them at local comic stores in the Detroit area. Death's Head is a much bigger character in the Marvel Transformers Universe than even Circuit Breaker or Blackrock. He certainly made a bigger splash!
If you're not familiar with him or his awesomeness, you're missing out, yes?
To those of you bitching about Death's Head news coverage ... I grew up, in the US, reading Transformers UK comics when I could get my hands on them at local comic stores in the Detroit area. Death's Head is a much bigger character in the Marvel Transformers Universe than even Circuit Breaker or Blackrock. He certainly made a bigger splash!
If you're not familiar with him or his awesomeness, you're missing out, yes?
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:09am CDT
Yes? x100
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:09am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Death's Head is going to be awesome. I've waited since 1987 for a figure of this guy. Can't wait to have him in my hands at long last.
To those of you bitching about Death's Head news coverage ... I grew up, in the US, reading Transformers UK comics when I could get my hands on them at local comic stores in the Detroit area. Death's Head is a much bigger character in the Marvel Transformers Universe than even Circuit Breaker or Blackrock. He certainly made a bigger splash!
If you're not familiar with him or his awesomeness, you're missing out, yes?
Yes? x100
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Posted by Rated X on March 21st, 2014 @ 2:17am CDT
I had a few Marvel TF comics as a kid (not UK books) I think they were the reason I never got into the comics. Too many super hero/villain style characters like Robot Master, Mechanic, Circuit Breaker, etc. for my tastes. That type of stuff didn't fly with the G1 cartoon. Glad to see IDW isn't really into that type of stuff either from the little bit I have read that come free with the new Generations deluxes.
Posted by Rated X on March 21st, 2014 @ 2:17am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Rated X wrote:Wrong website !!!
Ryan's gonna be pissed. He said only official Transformers brand products get front paged.
I had a few Marvel TF comics as a kid (not UK books) I think they were the reason I never got into the comics. Too many super hero/villain style characters like Robot Master, Mechanic, Circuit Breaker, etc. for my tastes. That type of stuff didn't fly with the G1 cartoon. Glad to see IDW isn't really into that type of stuff either from the little bit I have read that come free with the new Generations deluxes.
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Posted by Trek on March 21st, 2014 @ 4:44am CDT
As reader of the UK comics from issue 113 through 332, I can assure you that the future stories were far more than just filler. In many cases were better than the US material that was being reprinted between them, which made the US stories feel far more like the filler.
They also fit into the continuity quite nicely up until the future stories are effectively concluded with "Time Wars". After that the UK only material begins to have continuity issues mainly thanks to the continuity mess that is Earthforce.
The additional content came for the UK comic being weekly instead of monthly (hence over 300 issues).
Back on topic: Death's Head will be mine!
Posted by Trek on March 21st, 2014 @ 4:44am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Yep, like I said, filler.
It's UK only stories, and yeah...that's just a continuity mess.
Seriously, if you're going to put in Death's Head in your Transformers collection, you might as well throw Spider-Man in there too. And any GI JOE characters you'd like too.
Why were the UK comics padded out with all that additional "content" anyway? Did that happen with any other Marvel books during the 80's when crossing the Atlantic Ocean?
As reader of the UK comics from issue 113 through 332, I can assure you that the future stories were far more than just filler. In many cases were better than the US material that was being reprinted between them, which made the US stories feel far more like the filler.
They also fit into the continuity quite nicely up until the future stories are effectively concluded with "Time Wars". After that the UK only material begins to have continuity issues mainly thanks to the continuity mess that is Earthforce.
The additional content came for the UK comic being weekly instead of monthly (hence over 300 issues).
Back on topic: Death's Head will be mine!
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Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 7:59am CDT
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 7:59am CDT
As a kid I grew up in Ireland. I thought Deaths head was BADASS. I cannot wait to add him to my collection. I have wanted a deaths head figure for almost 30 years! I will have to cut off his right hand, stick his ax in there, glue his shield to his back and stick some additional weapons on his back to recreate the look from the comic.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:55am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:55am CDT
Is it really a bit of nostalgia glasses, though, thinking Death's Head was really "badass"? Obviously, I had no exposure to the character or the Marvel comics (US or UK) during G1. The original cartoon was my defacto Transformers fiction. Looking over the comic content with Death's Head now, he really comes off pretty forced and silly to me. I agree with the notion that he is just too super hero-villainy for the more sci-fi tone of Transformers I've come to love.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:24am CDT
And though the comics the UK created stuck to the story and world of the US comics, they eventually evolved from being additional stories written in between and on the side of US issues into being their own entity entirely, with the UK issues (while still coming out and being slotted in between US issue reprints) developing their own ongoing arcs that took place parallel to those in the US issues, and would sometimes overlap with the US stories, having the casts of characters from both interacting with each other in big events, which took place in the form of "epics".
The UK stories were oftentimes richer than the US stories, and overall helped to enhance the world of the Marvel Transformers comics on many levels. For instance, the UK issues gave more focus and exploration to several characters that the US comics seemed to ignore. Like, the US comics barely gave any focus to the Dinobots after their debut issue until only after Optimus Prime died many issues later. But the UK issues had been giving the Dinobots plenty of character attention to help them become very popular as a characters (rather than merely popular for being "dinosaur robots"). And the 1986 movie cast was largely unused in the US comics for quite awhile, while the UK comics used that cast to give the UK comics its own group of people to play with and to help shape the world that the UK comics would go on to create.
As for it happening with other comics, it definitely happened when G.I. Joe came over as Action Force, and that case was even more complicated since the Action Force comics established not only its own universe but one that, IIRC, had the international-based Action Force and the American-based G.I. Joe as separate teams who worked separated from each other and would sometimes team up as allies before eventually coming together to merge into one team called "G.I. Joe the Action Force" (later shortened to just "G.I. Joe" to create a consistency between the US and UK brand name).
Though, it's definitely no nostalgia glasses for me, in my case, since I wasn't born until after the 80's and only read all the Marvel stuff just a few short years ago.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:24am CDT
Like Trek said, the only UK stories that have any real conflicts with the U.S. ones are the Earthforce ones, which even Simon Furman acknowledges as a separate continuity. The rest that all came before fit in rather well and, also like Trek pointed out, were of a superior quality to the far more goofier American stories.Wolfman Jake wrote:Yep, like I said, filler.
It's UK only stories, and yeah...that's just a continuity mess.
Not when those were all one- or two-issue guest stars (or in the Joes' case, co-stars exclusive to crossover events), while Death's Head, as Ryan noted, was a major player whose first biggest role was in the Transformers comics before his making the jump over to other Marvel properties and getting his own series.Wolfman Jake wrote:Seriously, if you're going to put in Death's Head in your Transformers collection, you might as well throw Spider-Man in there too. And any GI JOE characters you'd like too.
It was because of the difference in comic release schedules between the US and the UK. In the US, comics came out on a monthly basis, while the UK had them out weekly. Due to the faster schedule in the UK, as well as a demand for more comic content, Marvel UK had little choice but to start churning out their own material in addition to the importation of American issues.Wolfman Jake wrote:Why were the UK comics padded out with all that additional "content" anyway? Did that happen with any other Marvel books during the 80's when crossing the Atlantic Ocean?
And though the comics the UK created stuck to the story and world of the US comics, they eventually evolved from being additional stories written in between and on the side of US issues into being their own entity entirely, with the UK issues (while still coming out and being slotted in between US issue reprints) developing their own ongoing arcs that took place parallel to those in the US issues, and would sometimes overlap with the US stories, having the casts of characters from both interacting with each other in big events, which took place in the form of "epics".
The UK stories were oftentimes richer than the US stories, and overall helped to enhance the world of the Marvel Transformers comics on many levels. For instance, the UK issues gave more focus and exploration to several characters that the US comics seemed to ignore. Like, the US comics barely gave any focus to the Dinobots after their debut issue until only after Optimus Prime died many issues later. But the UK issues had been giving the Dinobots plenty of character attention to help them become very popular as a characters (rather than merely popular for being "dinosaur robots"). And the 1986 movie cast was largely unused in the US comics for quite awhile, while the UK comics used that cast to give the UK comics its own group of people to play with and to help shape the world that the UK comics would go on to create.
As for it happening with other comics, it definitely happened when G.I. Joe came over as Action Force, and that case was even more complicated since the Action Force comics established not only its own universe but one that, IIRC, had the international-based Action Force and the American-based G.I. Joe as separate teams who worked separated from each other and would sometimes team up as allies before eventually coming together to merge into one team called "G.I. Joe the Action Force" (later shortened to just "G.I. Joe" to create a consistency between the US and UK brand name).
Actions speak louder than word, my friend, and thus no amount of praise any of us here can give to the character could really do him justice without one having read the comics he appeared in. His character arc was simply that intriguing to us that we all latched onto the character rather well, so I'd say it'd only be best for you to check out the comics that he showed up in to see for yourself why we find this guy so appealing, yes?Wolfman Jake wrote:Is it really a bit of nostalgia glasses, though, thinking Death's Head was really "badass"? Obviously, I had no exposure to the character or the Marvel comics (US or UK) during G1. The original cartoon was my defacto Transformers fiction. Looking over the comic content with Death's Head now, he really comes off pretty forced and silly to me. I agree with the notion that he is just too super hero-villainy for the more sci-fi tone of Transformers I've come to love.
Though, it's definitely no nostalgia glasses for me, in my case, since I wasn't born until after the 80's and only read all the Marvel stuff just a few short years ago.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:43am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:43am CDT
That "Yes?" schtick isn't helping me like the character. I can appreciate that he's got a little cult following, but he's just not for me. Weird vocal patterns are my bane, especially when in print. I could barely stand to read the tfwiki entry for Death's Head written in homage to his peculiar dialect.
Besides that, he's not a Transformer, and so is of little interest to me personally. Other characters from the G1 comics I've come to appreciate as part of the Transformers mythos, thanks in part to their introduction and involvement in other Transformers continuities later on. Death's Head just feels like a Marvel guest star to me. Like I said, he fits in about as well with my personal display as Spider-Man or Cobra Commander.
I can appreciate that he's got a little cult following, but he's just not for me. Weird vocal patterns are my bane, especially when in print. I could barely stand to read the tfwiki entry for Death's Head written in homage to his peculiar dialect.Besides that, he's not a Transformer, and so is of little interest to me personally. Other characters from the G1 comics I've come to appreciate as part of the Transformers mythos, thanks in part to their introduction and involvement in other Transformers continuities later on. Death's Head just feels like a Marvel guest star to me. Like I said, he fits in about as well with my personal display as Spider-Man or Cobra Commander.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:44am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:44am CDT
Sorry, double post!
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:55am CDT
Come to the think of it, in the comics, Death's Head was probably even more involved in the TFs than Spike was.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:55am CDT
For me, when I saw him and read his dialogue for the first time, I couldn't help but hear the late great Tony Jay's voice coming out of his mouth.Wolfman Jake wrote:That "Yes?" schtick isn't helping me like the character.
On the flipside, he is a mechanoid, rather than a fleshling.Wolfman Jake wrote:Besides that, he's not a Transformer, and so is of little interest to me personally.
Thing is, unlike other Marvel characters, he started off in the TF comics before switching over to the bigger Marvel stuff. It would feel like if Spike Witwicky left the TF comics and became a mainstream Marvel character.Wolfman Jake wrote:Other characters from the G1 comics I've come to appreciate as part of the Transformers mythos, thanks in part to their introduction and involvement in other Transformers continuities later on. Death's Head just feels like a Marvel guest star to me. Like I said, he fits in about as well with my personal display as Spider-Man or Cobra Commander.
Come to the think of it, in the comics, Death's Head was probably even more involved in the TFs than Spike was.
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Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 10:34am CDT
So you have no exposure to Death's Head but you're confident in saying based on your no exposure at all, that Death's Head wasn't BADASS? If you read some of the comics with him, he really was quite badass, took a licking and kept on ticking (and time travelling too)
I was the opposite I guess, I never really got into superhero comics when I was little, so I never picked up him being super villianesque, It just struck me as cool that he was a robot bounty hunter, and the only other bounty hunter I knew was Boba Fett, so I instantly thought him badass.
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 10:34am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Is it really a bit of nostalgia glasses, though, thinking Death's Head was really "badass"? Obviously, I had no exposure to the character or the Marvel comics (US or UK) during G1. The original cartoon was my defacto Transformers fiction. Looking over the comic content with Death's Head now, he really comes off pretty forced and silly to me. I agree with the notion that he is just too super hero-villainy for the more sci-fi tone of Transformers I've come to love.
So you have no exposure to Death's Head but you're confident in saying based on your no exposure at all, that Death's Head wasn't BADASS? If you read some of the comics with him, he really was quite badass, took a licking and kept on ticking (and time travelling too)
I was the opposite I guess, I never really got into superhero comics when I was little, so I never picked up him being super villianesque, It just struck me as cool that he was a robot bounty hunter, and the only other bounty hunter I knew was Boba Fett, so I instantly thought him badass.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:17am CDT
Very true. Though, I can't say all the human characters rub me the wrong way in Transformers. Spike, Sparkplug, and company were fairly benign in the original cartoon. They acted reasonably intelligently and with bravery. They felt like an extention of the Autobot team. Then came Daniel in the movie, and nothing was ever right again...until Animated, at least.
Well, technically Death's Head did start off with a one-page appearance in a non-Transformers Marvel book, just before his introduction in the UK G1 comics, for the very purpose that he'd be Marvel's own character to use as they pleased and NOT a Hasbro "Transforemrs" character. I've got a hunch he was perhaps Furman's own little alter ego, and he wanted him to "himself", as much as such was possible in the 80's.
I would like to posit that you don't always have to experience something to know you don't really want anything to do with it. Like I said, I think I became aware of Death's Head at the wrong time in my life to really "get it." I most certainly admit that I do not get Death's Head, and I feel little loss about it. For what it's worth, I never really got the all the fandom love for Boba Fett either. Again, I didn't pay attention to the ancillary, expanded universe Star Wars stuff. I just saw the movies, in which (at least for the first trilogy), he was barely more than a "Hi and Die" character. I know the originals have been revised to rectify this, and the second trillogy gave him some backstory, but originally, there honestly wasn't a lot to the character.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:17am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:On the flipside, he is a mechanoid, rather than a fleshling.Wolfman Jake wrote:Besides that, he's not a Transformer, and so is of little interest to me personally.
Very true. Though, I can't say all the human characters rub me the wrong way in Transformers. Spike, Sparkplug, and company were fairly benign in the original cartoon. They acted reasonably intelligently and with bravery. They felt like an extention of the Autobot team. Then came Daniel in the movie, and nothing was ever right again...until Animated, at least.
Sabrblade wrote:Thing is, unlike other Marvel characters, he started off in the TF comics before switching over to the bigger Marvel stuff. It would feel like if Spike Witwicky left the TF comics and became a mainstream Marvel character.Wolfman Jake wrote:Other characters from the G1 comics I've come to appreciate as part of the Transformers mythos, thanks in part to their introduction and involvement in other Transformers continuities later on. Death's Head just feels like a Marvel guest star to me. Like I said, he fits in about as well with my personal display as Spider-Man or Cobra Commander.
Come to the think of it, in the comics, Death's Head was probably even more involved in the TFs than Spike was.
Well, technically Death's Head did start off with a one-page appearance in a non-Transformers Marvel book, just before his introduction in the UK G1 comics, for the very purpose that he'd be Marvel's own character to use as they pleased and NOT a Hasbro "Transforemrs" character. I've got a hunch he was perhaps Furman's own little alter ego, and he wanted him to "himself", as much as such was possible in the 80's.
Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Is it really a bit of nostalgia glasses, though, thinking Death's Head was really "badass"? Obviously, I had no exposure to the character or the Marvel comics (US or UK) during G1. The original cartoon was my defacto Transformers fiction. Looking over the comic content with Death's Head now, he really comes off pretty forced and silly to me. I agree with the notion that he is just too super hero-villainy for the more sci-fi tone of Transformers I've come to love.
So you have no exposure to Death's Head but you're confident in saying based on your no exposure at all, that Death's Head wasn't BADASS? If you read some of the comics with him, he really was quite badass, took a licking and kept on ticking (and time travelling too)
I was the opposite I guess, I never really got into superhero comics when I was little, so I never picked up him being super villianesque, It just struck me as cool that he was a robot bounty hunter, and the only other bounty hunter I knew was Boba Fett, so I instantly thought him badass.
I would like to posit that you don't always have to experience something to know you don't really want anything to do with it.
Like I said, I think I became aware of Death's Head at the wrong time in my life to really "get it." I most certainly admit that I do not get Death's Head, and I feel little loss about it. For what it's worth, I never really got the all the fandom love for Boba Fett either. Again, I didn't pay attention to the ancillary, expanded universe Star Wars stuff. I just saw the movies, in which (at least for the first trilogy), he was barely more than a "Hi and Die" character. I know the originals have been revised to rectify this, and the second trillogy gave him some backstory, but originally, there honestly wasn't a lot to the character.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:57am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:57am CDT
Indeed. Taking this into account is precisely why I carefully chose to use the word "feel" instead of my original choice of "be", for that wouldn't be correct to say, but it would still have the "feeling" of such without technically "being" such.Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, technically Death's Head did start off with a one-page appearance in a non-Transformers Marvel book, just before his introduction in the UK G1 comics, for the very purpose that he'd be Marvel's own character to use as they pleased and NOT a Hasbro "Transforemrs" character.
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Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:09pm CDT
Basically I came on here to say I thought death's head was awesome.
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:09pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Indeed. Taking this into account is precisely why I carefully chose to use the word "feel" instead of my original choice of "be", for that wouldn't be correct to say, but it would still have the "feeling" of such without technically "being" such.Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, technically Death's Head did start off with a one-page appearance in a non-Transformers Marvel book, just before his introduction in the UK G1 comics, for the very purpose that he'd be Marvel's own character to use as they pleased and NOT a Hasbro "Transforemrs" character.
Basically I came on here to say I thought death's head was awesome.
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Posted by Seibertron on March 21st, 2014 @ 3:12pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 21st, 2014 @ 3:12pm CDT
Death's Head, Black Spider-Man and Cobra Commander will all get to play together on my pretend shelf. Can't wait to do the gallery of Death's Head for those of you who enjoy him.
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Posted by leakin' lubricant on March 21st, 2014 @ 4:59pm CDT
Posted by leakin' lubricant on March 21st, 2014 @ 4:59pm CDT
What scale is this guy gonna be? Please say to scale with deluxe figures.
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Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 5:55pm CDT
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 21st, 2014 @ 5:55pm CDT
These figs are 3.75 inches but in the comics DH has been both bot sized and human sized
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Posted by Wreckgar on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:55pm CDT
Posted by Wreckgar on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:55pm CDT
Just read through all the posts here, and I noticed a distinct pattern - Those that have read the Marvel UK comics think Death's Head is awesome and can't wait to get him, whereas those that haven't don't understand the appeal and don't want him.
Makes me curious to know if there is anyone who HAS read them who DOESN'T like him.
Incidentally, I'm definitely in the "he's awesome - gimme" camp.
Makes me curious to know if there is anyone who HAS read them who DOESN'T like him.
Incidentally, I'm definitely in the "he's awesome - gimme" camp.
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Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:22pm CDT
I HAVEN'T read them and I think he's awesome. Definitely looking forward to him, even if he is going on the "not sure where to put you" section of my Classics.
Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:22pm CDT
Wreckgar wrote:Just read through all the posts here, and I noticed a distinct pattern - Those that have read the Marvel UK comics think Death's Head is awesome and can't wait to get him, whereas those that haven't don't understand the appeal and don't want him.
Makes me curious to know if there is anyone who HAS read them who DOESN'T like him.
Incidentally, I'm definitely in the "he's awesome - gimme" camp.
I HAVEN'T read them and I think he's awesome. Definitely looking forward to him, even if he is going on the "not sure where to put you" section of my Classics.
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Posted by Noideaforaname on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:52pm CDT
So about Scout/Cyberverse Commander/new Legends size then. A pity that size range doesn't have the best pool of characters and isn't really consistent.
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:52pm CDT
Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:These figs are 3.75 inches but in the comics DH has been both bot sized and human sized
So about Scout/Cyberverse Commander/new Legends size then. A pity that size range doesn't have the best pool of characters and isn't really consistent.
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Posted by Wreckgar on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:58pm CDT
It's about time you did read them then!
Posted by Wreckgar on March 21st, 2014 @ 9:58pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:Wreckgar wrote:Just read through all the posts here, and I noticed a distinct pattern - Those that have read the Marvel UK comics think Death's Head is awesome and can't wait to get him, whereas those that haven't don't understand the appeal and don't want him.
Makes me curious to know if there is anyone who HAS read them who DOESN'T like him.
Incidentally, I'm definitely in the "he's awesome - gimme" camp.
I HAVEN'T read them and I think he's awesome. Definitely looking forward to him, even if he is going on the "not sure where to put you" section of my Classics.
It's about time you did read them then!
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Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 21st, 2014 @ 10:43pm CDT
Tried, failed. I can't stand looking at 80's/90's comic art anymore these days. It could be hailed universally as the greatest literary achievement of all time and I'd still never be able to read it due to the old art(I'm the same way with 1st person narratives).
Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 21st, 2014 @ 10:43pm CDT
Wreckgar wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:Wreckgar wrote:Just read through all the posts here, and I noticed a distinct pattern - Those that have read the Marvel UK comics think Death's Head is awesome and can't wait to get him, whereas those that haven't don't understand the appeal and don't want him.
Makes me curious to know if there is anyone who HAS read them who DOESN'T like him.
Incidentally, I'm definitely in the "he's awesome - gimme" camp.
I HAVEN'T read them and I think he's awesome. Definitely looking forward to him, even if he is going on the "not sure where to put you" section of my Classics.
It's about time you did read them then!
Tried, failed. I can't stand looking at 80's/90's comic art anymore these days. It could be hailed universally as the greatest literary achievement of all time and I'd still never be able to read it due to the old art(I'm the same way with 1st person narratives).
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:00pm CDT
But as I kept reading more and more issues later on, I gradually started to get used to the guy until... "The Legacy of Unicron!" totally sold me on the guy! He was amazing in that epic! Some of his finest moments were in there and I really dug him for what he was by that point.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:00pm CDT
To be honest, I used to fall into that category of "Has read, doesn't like", back when I was still reading through the comics. Even though the opening part of "Wanted: Galvatron - Dead of Alive" centered around him, once it shifted over the TFs, any return to focusing on Death's Head kinda felt like a distraction to me and I didn't feel like he really belonged in the story despite it being about him at first.Wreckgar wrote:Just read through all the posts here, and I noticed a distinct pattern - Those that have read the Marvel UK comics think Death's Head is awesome and can't wait to get him, whereas those that haven't don't understand the appeal and don't want him.
Makes me curious to know if there is anyone who HAS read them who DOESN'T like him.
But as I kept reading more and more issues later on, I gradually started to get used to the guy until... "The Legacy of Unicron!" totally sold me on the guy! He was amazing in that epic! Some of his finest moments were in there and I really dug him for what he was by that point.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:34pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:34pm CDT
I only ever read one or two stories featuring Deaths Head and these were outside of the Transformer comics. In fact it wasn't until the last 10 years that I found out he was connected to the Transformers in any way.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 22nd, 2014 @ 10:01am CDT
Interesting you should bring up comic book art. Just the other day, I was trying to research the recent evolution of comic book art, from the fairly simple forms and coloring that lasted up until the early 90's, to the highly detailed, sometimes photo-realistic art in comics of today. The most I could find so far was a shift in available printing technology along with a break away from "traditionalism" in comic book art that began with the advent of the medium many decades ago and the expansion of comic book companies' artist pools from a couple of people to one or more per book. Anyone else have any input on this?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 22nd, 2014 @ 10:01am CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:Tried, failed. I can't stand looking at 80's/90's comic art anymore these days. It could be hailed universally as the greatest literary achievement of all time and I'd still never be able to read it due to the old art(I'm the same way with 1st person narratives).
Interesting you should bring up comic book art. Just the other day, I was trying to research the recent evolution of comic book art, from the fairly simple forms and coloring that lasted up until the early 90's, to the highly detailed, sometimes photo-realistic art in comics of today. The most I could find so far was a shift in available printing technology along with a break away from "traditionalism" in comic book art that began with the advent of the medium many decades ago and the expansion of comic book companies' artist pools from a couple of people to one or more per book. Anyone else have any input on this?
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Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 2:00pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 2:00pm CDT
Regardless of everyone's opinion of Death's Head ... here's hoping that Death's Head sells well enough that we get a 3.75" Marvel Circuit Breaker. That'd be awesome too.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:09pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:09pm CDT
I kinda feel like I'd want a G.B. Blackrock before a Circuit Breaker, but that's just wishful thinking since it's likely that a G.B. Blackrock in any toy form ain't happening.Seibertron wrote:Regardless of everyone's opinion of Death's Head ... here's hoping that Death's Head sells well enough that we get a 3.75" Marvel Circuit Breaker. That'd be awesome too.
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Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:46pm CDT
I'd love to have a GB Blackrock as well as the rest of the Transformers human cast, in 3.75" form. However, the likelihood of a Circuit Breaker figure as part of the Marvel toy line is more probable since Marvel still owns her character, and since she played a role in the Secret Wars comic (albeit a very minor role).
Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I kinda feel like I'd want a G.B. Blackrock before a Circuit Breaker, but that's just wishful thinking since it's likely that a G.B. Blackrock in any toy form ain't happening.Seibertron wrote:Regardless of everyone's opinion of Death's Head ... here's hoping that Death's Head sells well enough that we get a 3.75" Marvel Circuit Breaker. That'd be awesome too.
I'd love to have a GB Blackrock as well as the rest of the Transformers human cast, in 3.75" form. However, the likelihood of a Circuit Breaker figure as part of the Marvel toy line is more probable since Marvel still owns her character, and since she played a role in the Secret Wars comic (albeit a very minor role).
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:50pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:50pm CDT
I wonder, since I'm not aware of how often Marvel has used her, has she appeared in other Marvel works outside of the TF comics and her Secret Wars appearance?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I kinda feel like I'd want a G.B. Blackrock before a Circuit Breaker, but that's just wishful thinking since it's likely that a G.B. Blackrock in any toy form ain't happening.Seibertron wrote:Regardless of everyone's opinion of Death's Head ... here's hoping that Death's Head sells well enough that we get a 3.75" Marvel Circuit Breaker. That'd be awesome too.
I'd love to have a GB Blackrock as well as the rest of the Transformers human cast, in 3.75" form. However, the likelihood of a Circuit Breaker figure as part of the Marvel toy line is more probable since Marvel still owns her character, and since she played a role in the Secret Wars comic (albeit a very minor role).
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Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT
None of which I'm aware.
Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I wonder, since I'm not aware of how often Marvel has used her, has she appeared in other Marvel works outside of the TF comics and her Secret Wars appearance?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I kinda feel like I'd want a G.B. Blackrock before a Circuit Breaker, but that's just wishful thinking since it's likely that a G.B. Blackrock in any toy form ain't happening.Seibertron wrote:Regardless of everyone's opinion of Death's Head ... here's hoping that Death's Head sells well enough that we get a 3.75" Marvel Circuit Breaker. That'd be awesome too.
I'd love to have a GB Blackrock as well as the rest of the Transformers human cast, in 3.75" form. However, the likelihood of a Circuit Breaker figure as part of the Marvel toy line is more probable since Marvel still owns her character, and since she played a role in the Secret Wars comic (albeit a very minor role).
None of which I'm aware.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2014 @ 4:02pm CDT
Guess she's one of those who needs more love and attention.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2014 @ 4:02pm CDT
Interesting.Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I wonder, since I'm not aware of how often Marvel has used her, has she appeared in other Marvel works outside of the TF comics and her Secret Wars appearance?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I kinda feel like I'd want a G.B. Blackrock before a Circuit Breaker, but that's just wishful thinking since it's likely that a G.B. Blackrock in any toy form ain't happening.Seibertron wrote:Regardless of everyone's opinion of Death's Head ... here's hoping that Death's Head sells well enough that we get a 3.75" Marvel Circuit Breaker. That'd be awesome too.
I'd love to have a GB Blackrock as well as the rest of the Transformers human cast, in 3.75" form. However, the likelihood of a Circuit Breaker figure as part of the Marvel toy line is more probable since Marvel still owns her character, and since she played a role in the Secret Wars comic (albeit a very minor role).
None of which I'm aware.
Guess she's one of those who needs more love and attention.
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Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 4:06pm CDT
Marvel ought to team Circuit Breaker up in a comic with Death's Head as well as the rest of the ROM Space Knight characters that Marvel owns the rights to. Call it something like "Marvel's Misfits" or "Marvel's Most Unwanted".
Posted by Seibertron on March 23rd, 2014 @ 4:06pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I wonder, since I'm not aware of how often Marvel has used her, has she appeared in other Marvel works outside of the TF comics and her Secret Wars appearance?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I kinda feel like I'd want a G.B. Blackrock before a Circuit Breaker, but that's just wishful thinking since it's likely that a G.B. Blackrock in any toy form ain't happening.Seibertron wrote:Regardless of everyone's opinion of Death's Head ... here's hoping that Death's Head sells well enough that we get a 3.75" Marvel Circuit Breaker. That'd be awesome too.
I'd love to have a GB Blackrock as well as the rest of the Transformers human cast, in 3.75" form. However, the likelihood of a Circuit Breaker figure as part of the Marvel toy line is more probable since Marvel still owns her character, and since she played a role in the Secret Wars comic (albeit a very minor role).
None of which I'm aware.
Marvel ought to team Circuit Breaker up in a comic with Death's Head as well as the rest of the ROM Space Knight characters that Marvel owns the rights to. Call it something like "Marvel's Misfits" or "Marvel's Most Unwanted".
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Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 23rd, 2014 @ 10:10pm CDT
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 23rd, 2014 @ 10:10pm CDT
sounds great i reeally want a circuit breaker toy and a comic would be awesome too
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Posted by El Duque on May 16th, 2014 @ 9:35am CDT
Posted by El Duque on May 16th, 2014 @ 9:35am CDT
In-hand images, yes? Thanks to the Come, See Toy Blog we have images of the Death's Head figure from the upcoming Avengers Infinite line. The figure features a removable cape, shield, axe, and mace. Both hands can be removed and replaced with the aforementioned axe and mace for awesome freelance peace keeping action! We've mirrored a selection of packaged and in-hand images below, additional images and full review can be found by clicking here.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 9:47am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 9:47am CDT
Looks like a must have, yes?
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Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:19am CDT
Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:19am CDT
This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
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Posted by mooncake623 on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:21am CDT
Sunbow was part of Marvel no?
Posted by mooncake623 on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:21am CDT
Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
Sunbow was part of Marvel no?
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:23am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:23am CDT
Good thing he's not a super hero/villain.Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
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Posted by Diem on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:29am CDT
I agree, though my personal objection of him was that in a universe full of already surprisingly well-established characters they had to introduce this guy. If they needed an ill-tempered lunatic to chase Galvatron through time what exactly was, say, Afterburner doing that was so important he couldn't fill this role.
Posted by Diem on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:29am CDT
Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
I agree, though my personal objection of him was that in a universe full of already surprisingly well-established characters they had to introduce this guy. If they needed an ill-tempered lunatic to chase Galvatron through time what exactly was, say, Afterburner doing that was so important he couldn't fill this role.
