Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked

o.supreme wrote:The Voyager Junkion in wave 4 is interesting. I would think it would be another character from TF:TM, but then I'd think it would be in SS, unless it was slotted in L:E because SS was too full? On the other hand, if this is another made up Junkion/ weaponizer perhaps this is the "team leader", and much like the Stunticons, we will get the 5th and final member in wave 1 2024?

I think this will be a bigger junkion weaponizer to go with the rest of this year's gimmick

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:The Voyager Junkion in wave 4 is interesting. I would think it would be another character from TF:TM, but then I'd think it would be in SS, unless it was slotted in L:E because SS was too full? On the other hand, if this is another made up Junkion/ weaponizer perhaps this is the "team leader", and much like the Stunticons, we will get the 5th and final member in wave 1 2024?

I think this will be a bigger junkion weaponizer to go with the rest of this year's gimmick

I certainly hope so, the junkions look to be fantastic frol what we've seen so far

I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer? If so, it better come with some accessories for it to run the same price as Rumble. He at least included his pile drivers.

Also, Core Class Sludge and Slag are listed, but not showing PR after them. They've already been released. Or are these in G2 colors?

Update: Never mind. PR means package refresh of figures from OTHER LINES. I was thinking OTHER WAVES of SAME LINE. My bad.

Beachcomber, Bludgeon and Armada Megatron will most likely be purchases.

Hopefully they do Megatron right. Both Hotshot and Starscream have been only adequate so far.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:He has a combiner peg?

And "Mena-cons?" You mean Stunticons? Their official name?

Nope. But he has a perfectly centered 5mm peg. And one of the designers hinted on Twitter in response to a leg mode picture that there was more to that than just speculation.

Hmm I'm sure those adept at kitbashing can make it work. Looks pretty good. A junkion combiner would have been a good idea.

Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.

Do you mean Slag?

You can call them whatever you like, I was just a little confused, because I don't think they were referred to as Stunticons even on official packaging, now that I think about it.

As for the combined form, I'm also a bit disappointed, but I don't blame anyone else. I saw photos and reviews and still bought them. But they do look better separate than combined.

wolverinetodd wrote:So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer?

No. Skar is the sixth Dinobot needed to finish the Core class Dinobot combiner.

So here's the things that appeal to me from this leak:
Axelgreese, Armada Megs, Shadowstriker, Strongarm, voyager Junkion, and maybe Dreadwing (but I still think I mostly want that mold as G1 Skyquake)

I initially had Skar on my list but then I stopped to think about it. I had at first assumed this was a remake of Doubledealer's bat Powermaster in the vein of SS Rumble (Blue), but then I noticed that we don't have a listing for our last Dinobot, and Skar has also been used as a name for a Dynobot in IDW, however briefly. So that leads me to believe that Skar is the ankylosaurus dinobot for Volcanicus. Thus the distribution would be:
W1: Slug, Sludge
W2: Grimlock
W3: Swoop, Skar
W4: Snarl

And of course as this list shows we've got rereleases of figures in later waves so:
Wave 1: 3x Slug, 3 x Sludge
wave 2: 2x Grimlock
wave 3: 2x Skar, 2x Swoop, 2x Grimlock
Wave 4: 2x Snarl, 2x Sludge, 2x Slug

They're going to make sure get Slug and Sludge if you missed them the first time around. Waves 3 and 4 will be dominated by Dinobots.

Really wondering when we're going to see info about Dinoking.

Sabrblade wrote:

wolverinetodd wrote:So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer?

No. Skar is the sixth Dinobot needed to finish the Core class Dinobot combiner.

You're both correct technically. The Dynobot Skar is a simple name reuse from the IDW comics (based on Dinobot names starting with "S"), but he was nothing more than a tragic plot device He'll be the Ankylosaurus of this new group, if the Dinoking setup still holds true.

And he's coming a lot sooner than expected. Curiously Slug and Sludge are getting re-releases, I hope they address Sludge's Dino head detailing with that.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And he's coming a lot sooner than expected. Curiously Slug and Sludge are getting re-releases, I hope they address Sludge's Dino head detailing with that.

I'm out of the loop, what's wrong with Sludge's head?

King Kuuga wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And he's coming a lot sooner than expected. Curiously Slug and Sludge are getting re-releases, I hope they address Sludge's Dino head detailing with that.

I'm out of the loop, what's wrong with Sludge's head?

It's hard to notice, but the detailing on the snout is asymmetric, the measurements for each half were slightly off when the mold was cut it seems.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

If you're fine with just the TR,it's all right. But the new voyager is much more G1 accurate. Plus if you love Cyclonus's transformation, we get the same magic here.

For me, I want them all.

Too bad I slept on Botcon Metalhawk all those years because he's now definitely nope'd priced.
As for the OG G1, it's just a pipe dream. Even if I'd be a millionaire, finding one that is 100% complete is a near impossibility.

I recently got the Movie Advanced AoE Hound, Special Army Camo version. I remember how great of a mold that toy is and that deco is just perfect. Far superior to the original release.





Now before anyone tell me I'm in the wrong thread, here's the Wreck N Rule Legacy Bulkhead.

Same overall proportions. Same overall looks. Same colors. Same love for weapons.



And the exact same vehicle mode.



Surprisingly, Bulkhead is bigger than Hound.



Same vehicle, same deco, same love for weapons.



So, yeah. For me, Legacy Bulkhead have absolutely nothing to do with the Prime Universe. He's the "geewunification" of AoE Hound. Those two are the same character in two different universes. It's just perfect!

Forgot about Devcon, will likely get depending on ho it turns out as I liked the art depicting him.

Hoping they rerun Dead End, I still need him and Breakdown.

Detritus? I wonder if Earthmode Hound redeco or Siege? I hope the latter so I can use Earth Hound and have some variation.

Wonder what Devcon will look like.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

Same, mostly. I prefer the brighter yellow on this one for sure to the dark gold, and I think I just overall prefer his spaceship mode to the F15, even though an earth mode fits more for what I want to do with him. I am also not a fan of how much light grey is peeking through and how narrow the cockpit is. But I am planning on getting him in and I expect I will like it a lot in person.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got my Legacy Breakdown and Scraphook today, which is pretty fun considering I only just ordered them Thursday night from Pulse.

Breakdown is breakdown, nothing really exciting. The best thing I did with him was throw him onto Menasor as a back calf. 3 of the 5 Mena-cons really did turn out pretty mediocre. The combiner itself is nice, but the latter 3 cons kinda made me like him less. I actually almost prefer him without the leg bots, and Dead End just does not look good on the arm like Dragstrip does. He's nice, and better than CW, but he's still a bit disappointing.

Perhaps he'd look better with CW Dead End, Wildrider, and Breakdown instead? There are some options for shoulder adapters out there (one on Shapeways, and a print-your-own on Cults3D).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Scraphook is really awesome, I love his highly greebled scrappy design, and the colors in hand are ace. He is so much fun, and his truck mode is rad too. He is great, highlight of the wave so far for me. He also makes a cool leg

I think people are now obligated to make a connector add-on for him.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

Eh, IMO the only thing TR's got over Legacy is you wouldn't need aftermarket parts to swap the faceplate onto the PotP Prime Master.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.

Do you mean Slag?

Yep. Funny enough, in the time I have been in the fandom, he has always been Slug. So for me, he is and will always be Slug.

As for Hound, i had the same idea months ago, including giving him Red Cog's entire arsenal.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.

Do you mean Slag?

Yep. Funny enough, in the time I have been in the fandom, he has always been Slug. So for me, he is and will always be Slug.

As for Hound, i had the same idea months ago, including giving him Red Cog's entire arsenal.

I class him as Slug now as well, despite knowing his previous name for years. Thing is, I can't fully remember when he was even renamed. I know IDW did a skit with it in their Dark Cybertron event back in 2014ish.

ZeroWolf wrote:I class him as Slug now as well, despite knowing his previous name for years. Thing is, I can't fully remember when he was even renamed. I know IDW did a skit with it in their Dark Cybertron event back in 2014ish.

I think Animated was the first, they named the triceratops "Snarl". Not sure if anything before that started the trend away.

And since then, IDW, FOC, the movies, Cyberverse, PotP, SS86, and Legacy have all used Slug. I think the Slug might outnumber the Slag now in terms of toys and fictional appearances.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:As for Hound, i had the same idea months ago, including giving him Red Cog's entire arsenal.

Oh, nice idea!
Maybe painting Bulkhead's chin in black for the final touch?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I class him as Slug now as well, despite knowing his previous name for years. Thing is, I can't fully remember when he was even renamed. I know IDW did a skit with it in their Dark Cybertron event back in 2014ish.

I think Animated was the first, they named the triceratops "Snarl". Not sure if anything before that started the trend away.

And since then, IDW, FOC, the movies, Cyberverse, PotP, SS86, and Legacy have all used Slug. I think the Slug might outnumber the Slag now in terms of toys and fictional appearances.

Pretty sure Fall of Cybertron was the first to use the name "Slug". During the time of Animated calling him "Snarl", IDW was still using the "Slag" name.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I class him as Slug now as well, despite knowing his previous name for years. Thing is, I can't fully remember when he was even renamed. I know IDW did a skit with it in their Dark Cybertron event back in 2014ish.

I think Animated was the first, they named the triceratops "Snarl". Not sure if anything before that started the trend away.

And since then, IDW, FOC, the movies, Cyberverse, PotP, SS86, and Legacy have all used Slug. I think the Slug might outnumber the Slag now in terms of toys and fictional appearances.

Pretty sure Fall of Cybertron was the first to use the name "Slug". During the time of Animated calling him "Snarl", IDW was still using the "Slag" name.

The FoC game was indeed the first to use the new name overall. The first toys were the AoE ones, which worked out in a sense since they were new interpretations. Not too happy with "Strafe" and "Slog" tho.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Okay there HAS to be a wave 5, I realize I've said this many times now but we've got "ROBO WLD RDR", Cheetor, Wheeljack, & Ramjet repacks, that Leader Optimus listing that's probably the "Holiday Prime in G1 colors" the designers just teased, and now a Bomb-Burst repack all unaccounted for in the 4 waves we know or maybe I'm just trying to cope with the fact that now I may actually have to spend $20+ just to get Bomb-Burst at all.

I could see a 5th Core wave with Skar, Swoop and Snarl since the other three all got second runs in later waves. If not then wave 1 of 2024.

Emerje

So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

The stream on Tuesday didn't have a Q&A except maybe in the sense of the reps addressing some fandom concerns, directly or indirectly.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

Never even paid attention to the baynus nothound figure before due to the movie design being that bad but the toy looks pretty good. Hasbro should probably have gone for baynus over prime bulkhead as that figure wasnt a prime bulkhead to anyone for the most part.

As for metalhawk I like the legacy toon botmode over TR Metalhawk but functional cockpit and titanmaster wins out. I'd want the funpub metlhawk to go with my deluxe thunderwing tho :/ not quite sure Legacy Metalhawk would fit in with my NitroZeus/Thunderwing head but it's a reason for me to actually consider picking him up.
Still a shame they never did TR skyshadow as thunderwing but there might be a slim chance of it in a buzzworthy release.

blackeyedprime wrote:Never even paid attention to the baynus nothound figure before due to the movie design being that bad but the toy looks pretty good. Hasbro should probably have gone for baynus over prime bulkhead as that figure wasnt a prime bulkhead to anyone for the most part.

I'm surprised no 3rd party has made an upgrade kit with a Movieverse Hound head to swap onto the Legacy Bulkhead body to make a proper Legacy Movieverse Hound.

Really digging Scraphook. I switched his accessories around a bit, but ultimately my favorite arrangement is the one in the instruction manual. Hopefully the Junkions will get variants withn new decoes or tooling, but even just moving around parts like the smokestacks or the spare tire can change the silhouette. I'm going to get at least one of every Junkion they put out.

Sabrblade wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Never even paid attention to the baynus nothound figure before due to the movie design being that bad but the toy looks pretty good. Hasbro should probably have gone for baynus over prime bulkhead as that figure wasnt a prime bulkhead to anyone for the most part.

I'm surprised no 3rd party has made an upgrade kit with a Movieverse Hound head to swap onto the Legacy Bulkhead body to make a proper Legacy Movieverse Hound.

Me too.
For now, I gave him all the extra guns from Red Cog except the "mutagen tube".
Without a custom 3D printed "G1" AoE Hound head, I think painting Bulkhead's big chin in gloss black will do the job.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

It was supposed to be the new packaging style going forward.

My Complete Legacy Menasor

Fear the Scraphook

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

It was supposed to be the new packaging style going forward.

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was just packaged backwards by the photographer or whoever so the part cut out to go behind the figure for back kibble ended up on the front. They just did it again with Origins Jazz.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

It was supposed to be the new packaging style going forward.

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was just packaged backwards by the photographer or whoever so the part cut out to go behind the figure for back kibble ended up on the front. They just did it again with Origins Jazz.

Emerje

OK, but the sandwich packaging is out there and I'm curious why it's not being used.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

It was supposed to be the new packaging style going forward.

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was just packaged backwards by the photographer or whoever so the part cut out to go behind the figure for back kibble ended up on the front. They just did it again with Origins Jazz.

Emerje

OK, but the sandwich packaging is out there and I'm curious why it's not being used.

I'm not sure why you'd want it. It doesn't make sense to have a window that opens up to more cardboard. They may as well just make the window even smaller.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

It was supposed to be the new packaging style going forward.

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was just packaged backwards by the photographer or whoever so the part cut out to go behind the figure for back kibble ended up on the front. They just did it again with Origins Jazz.

Emerje

OK, but the sandwich packaging is out there and I'm curious why it's not being used.

I'm not sure why you'd want it. It doesn't make sense to have a window that opens up to more cardboard. They may as well just make the window even smaller.

Emerje

I truly hate the new packaging but the sandwich style appeals to me. It's like a puzzle before the toy and before the puzzle of what life choices brought you to this point.

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

It was supposed to be the new packaging style going forward.

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was just packaged backwards by the photographer or whoever so the part cut out to go behind the figure for back kibble ended up on the front. They just did it again with Origins Jazz.

Emerje

No, it was really packed this way for Select Magnificus. I bought one and I saw this myself. No twisties too.

At that price I might get Override.

They've been on Clearance for ages, but at least the Beasts have been relocated to the dedicated Clearance aisle at my local Walmart. Still, $17 is not good enough. $10 to $15, then we'll talk.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, did anyone ask any important questions during the stream like why did Hasbro decide NOT to use the new "Sandwich" style packaging for the Evolution figures even though it was shown in the teaser pics? Or why there wasn't any Earthspark product available in the US during the holiday season?

"Sandwich packaging, meaning like they did for Select Magnificus?
That was a clever way to pack without any twis-ties. I wonder if that was just a one-shot deal?

It was supposed to be the new packaging style going forward.

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was just packaged backwards by the photographer or whoever so the part cut out to go behind the figure for back kibble ended up on the front. They just did it again with Origins Jazz.

Emerje

No, it was really packed this way for Select Magnificus. I bought one and I saw this myself. No twisties too.

He's talking about this:


But it ended up on the right side at release.


They just did the same thing with Origins Jazz.



I wouldn't expect him to be released like that.

Emerje

That packaging just seems more complicated as well as added expense for not much payoff, might as well just go the route of Joes, Star Wars Black Series or pretty much every other Hasbro line with sealed boxes. IDK why Transformers it the lone holdout to having a tiny window that barely shows what you're buying in the first place.

Till-all-R1 wrote:That packaging just seems more complicated as well as added expense for not much payoff, might as well just go the route of Joes, Star Wars Black Series or pretty much every other Hasbro line with sealed boxes. IDK why Transformers it the lone holdout to having a tiny window that barely shows what you're buying in the first place.

It's to show the kids what they're getting. The reason leaders are completely closed is because they're more expensive, but in theory a kid could save up their allowance to pick up a deluxe or voyager and Hasbro's research has shown that kids like being able to see the toys they're buying, hence the open window on voyagers and below

And these kids can't see pictures/art that clearly depicted on the box? Seems odd for a generation addicted to instagram. And TBH how does only showing the head/top chest area do anything for someone to get a sense of what the item is inside? A person winds up having to turn it over and look at the art anyways.

Till-all-R1 wrote:And these kids can't see pictures/art that clearly depicted on the box? Seems odd for a generation addicted to instagram. And TBH how does only showing the head/top chest area do anything for someone to get a sense of what the item is inside? A person winds up having to turn it over and look at the art anyways.

Of course they can. It is much simpler than that.
1)On the closed box, the back of the box shows what your item is supposed to look like (at the time of printing the boxes).
2)The window boxes show what at least a portion of your actual item looks like while at the same time the back of the box shows what your item is supposed to look like (at the time of printing the boxes). Plus the portion you see is at scale.

I prefer 2, but it isn't a deal breaker to me. Kids tend to have a much stronger preference.

Till-all-R1 wrote:That packaging just seems more complicated as well as added expense for not much payoff, might as well just go the route of Joes, Star Wars Black Series or pretty much every other Hasbro line with sealed boxes. IDK why Transformers it the lone holdout to having a tiny window that barely shows what you're buying in the first place.

Transformers may have the same price points as other action figures but they are not in the same category. They are in the puzzle box category instead, which has its own marketing rules and is driven by tactile activity rather than characters. That's why 80s kids were fine buying G1 toys of unknown characters. When you go to Walmart next time, check the games area and look at the tactile games and puzzle boxes. You'll notice they are not in closed boxes either.

Long post incoming, sorry.

So, I have been putting a lot of thought into G2 universe figures, specifically updates to characters who were G2 exclusive and have basically a single toy to their name. And i have a list below of how I think they can make the G2 characters, including mold reuses to give them multiple mode re-uses.

I just want to start putting the energy into the universe and see what happens.

here we go:

Axelerators

Skram can be a new mold, and he can be retooled into Rapido. They could even use the same skeleton to get Turbofire out of the same mold too.

Windbreaker can be a new head and weapon tooling of Windcharger.

Skyscorchers

All 4 transform pretty similarly, you could almost get away with a 4-pack of figures using the same base tooling, with 2 alt mode pairs with 2 heads tooled in each.

Aquaspeeders

Pretty much all 4 can use their European releases as redecos, considering all 4 had different colorings and names for the euro releases.

Deluge could also use the Siege Mirage mold, as an alternative, but I would prefer a new mold.

Rotor force

We already got Leadfoot, so he's covered.

Manta Ray can be done and retooled into comics universe Riptide, good way to get the 2 good boatformers.

Powerdive has some design similarities to Rotorstorm, so we could get a more accurate Rotorstorm that then gets retooled into Powerdive.

As for Ransack, you could almost do a reverse retool (AOE to TLK Drift style) from a Skyscorcher mold to get him done.

Laser Rods

Outside of Electro, I think all 3 could share a base skeleton with heavy retools. We need more rat rod robots dammit!

We also could see Jolt and Sizzle share a base, and then electro and Volt share a heavy retool base as well. It's maybe not ideal, but at least Electro gets a non-fall apart toy.

Heroes

these can be all new toolings, though we kinda sorta already got the Hero Megatron, though not accurate transformation wise.

Dreadwing and Smokescreen

Considering you have BWII and Robotmasters repaints available, and maybe even movieverse homages for Mindwipe and Sunspot, I think these can be made easy.

Gobots

These can be core class, and they can be mass produced.

Cyberjets

All 3 molds have multiple repaints available, both in bot and con form, and they can share transformations with the Skyscorchers too. That jet transformation has a lot of options in it.

Laser Cycles

We already got Road Rocket, and i think Animated Prowl can make a good Road pig.

Autorollers

All 4 Autorollers have BWII repaints.

Dirtbag can be used for General Optimus and G1 Landfill as well.

Roadblock can be used for Sgt Hound and G1 Scoop.

Autojetter can be a movieverse seeker homage figure as well.

Power Masters

Ironhide can maybe be re-used with Ironfist, minus the big ass weapon, as a different size class.

Staxx and Meanstreak both are dragster type versions of their vehicles, so they might work as retools of one another.

I really don't know what you can do with Bulletbike.

Stormtroopers

All 4 can use a base mold, and they might be able to share with the Axelators too.

Lightformers/Trakkons

Ironfist and Ironhide, as mentioned above, can share a mold.

Deftwing can share a mold with Fearswoop if we wanted to get both of those.

Not sure immediately on Calcar, a lot of G2 cars share robot mode bases, though not transformations, so there are potential options there too.

Obliterators

I think these 2 could be retools of one another, or they could be their own molds, I think those 2 deserve it.

william-james88 wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:That packaging just seems more complicated as well as added expense for not much payoff, might as well just go the route of Joes, Star Wars Black Series or pretty much every other Hasbro line with sealed boxes. IDK why Transformers it the lone holdout to having a tiny window that barely shows what you're buying in the first place.

Transformers may have the same price points as other action figures but they are not in the same category. They are in the puzzle box category instead, which has its own marketing rules and is driven by tactile activity rather than characters. That's why 80s kids were fine buying G1 toys of unknown characters. When you go to Walmart next time, check the games area and look at the tactile games and puzzle boxes. You'll notice they are not in closed boxes either.

Yeah, and just look at some of those Marvel Legends box sets, they have no pictures of the figures on them at all, just art on all sides.




Emerje

Skyquake looks pretty awesome, but still just a maybe for me as I wait to see repaints. Glad theys went with the 2nd design over the 1st. Metalhawk looks really great, but again not for me. I am still happy with my PotP Pretenders(if we could ever just get that Diver). Already have SG Blaster and am happy, even if I prefer Twincast over the OG. Now Shrapnel and Animated Prowl are super dope and I pre-ordered both. The only ones I did in this new wave. I do admit the Junkions are great and all but I'm just not getting any cause I would want to go all in. Crosscut, meh, not bad.

I did gets a few new bots though and they are cool. Finally we get Tarn and I took some photos. They are just quick ones from my phone so not great.



I have been waiting years for this figure and was not let down. Right off the page looks and amazing articulation. He is just right.









Although if I had to nitpick, he is a tiny bit smaller than I imagined. But I think its just because I had this custom figure for so many years. Still the official is a major upgrade.



I even put together my own headcanon Sunbow season 4 DJD(since I doubt we will ever gets the others).



Also, another finally figure, Alpha Trion. Since I was a kid 40 yrs ago I have wanted a figure for him. To get one and Vector Sigma to boot was sweet. Oh also Orion Pax is there, and not bad, but like everyone else I would guess, Alpha Trion and Vector Sigma were the big draws. The SS 86 Scourge was almost perfect for him. After I made some changes, moved things around and knocked out a few pins, now the figure is perfect. Luckily I had an old cloak to use as well.