BTS-04 Sonicron Images

I hope they fix the face or maybe yet color it so the details would be more apparent.

Hes got some MP Megatron legs goin on, but otherwise I'm interested. I'll make my final decision once I see some color images & some more poseability.

Looks like a good effort. I'm just not convinced yet.

Maybe color will do this figure justice, but right now it looks like crap. Im actually pleased with WFC Soundwave as a stand in until a real classics Soundwave comes out. This one is just too boxy looking to go with the more complex classics/RTS/generations figures.

Oooh. Me likey. Can't wait to see it in color.

I like how we're all willing to give it a chance even though it looks like crap at the moment. I do hope it turns out nicely. I'd add him to the Classics collection if he's done well enough.

yea the head is my big problem too. otherwise looks good.

I think my iPod Soundwave is a good "Generations Soundwave" stand in unless they come out with an actual one. This looks good but the price wouldn't be right for me. (the iPod Soundwave was a Christmas gift, so the right price for me!)

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I think my iPod Soundwave is a good "Generations Soundwave" stand in unless they come out with an actual one. This looks good but the price wouldn't be right for me. (the iPod Soundwave was a Christmas gift, so the right price for me!)

I was wanting the white and blue version for my Shattered Glass collection and the traditional colors for Classics. I can't justify it in my brain though. I imagine the cost would end up about the same going either route though. Music label or this for Classics I mean.

It may be based on Guido Guidi's design, but I can't say this figure does it justice.

For those of you wondering, I calculate it will be about the same size as ML Soundwave, slightly taller than Tracks.

Its ok i guess.... still a great take on a new design...not to exited but if they can modifiy a new head old, and weapons to look like BLASTER then ill be exited since noone is trying to release a blaster any time soon...well heres to hoping anyone with me at lease a little?

Flux Convoy wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I think my iPod Soundwave is a good "Generations Soundwave" stand in unless they come out with an actual one. This looks good but the price wouldn't be right for me. (the iPod Soundwave was a Christmas gift, so the right price for me!)

I was wanting the white and blue version for my Shattered Glass collection and the traditional colors for Classics. I can't justify it in my brain though. I imagine the cost would end up about the same going either route though. Music label or this for Classics I mean.

I love my ML Soundwave. I got the Reprolabel set for it, and it looks great. A little small, I will admit, but it looks pretty good. I got it for a steal on eBay, I think it was $40 shipped, so I looked at as if I was buying a henkei/united figure.

A good effort but I'm sticking with my ML Soundwave (and DL Blaster!)

That thing needs work. It better not be the final design.

Hmm, not a fan of this one. This is from BTS Toys, the makers of the other Classics Prime trailer?

Flux Convoy wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I think my iPod Soundwave is a good "Generations Soundwave" stand in unless they come out with an actual one. This looks good but the price wouldn't be right for me. (the iPod Soundwave was a Christmas gift, so the right price for me!)

I was wanting the white and blue version for my Shattered Glass collection and the traditional colors for Classics. I can't justify it in my brain though. I imagine the cost would end up about the same going either route though. Music label or this for Classics I mean.

Are you still wanting a White version? I ended up with 2 of the white, so still have one MISB. PM me and we'll see if we can work something out.

i want to see finished pictures, but ill probably get this figure based on the fact you can fit the cassette robots inside of him. i kinda feel the mold would look better with a new head as blaster though. we havent got a good one of him in awhile i feel.(device label didnt feel RIGHT)

JERRYUS PRIME wrote:Its ok i guess.... still a great take on a new design...not to exited but if they can modifiy a new head old, and weapons to look like BLASTER then ill be exited since noone is trying to release a blaster any time soon...well heres to hoping anyone with me at lease a little?

I'm with you!

I'm pretty happy with my ML Soundwave, and not really interested in replacing him.

But, if this was Blaster, I'd be all over it, as DL Blaster sucks IMO.

kirbenvost wrote:Hmm, not a fan of this one. This is from BTS Toys, the makers of the other Classics Prime trailer?

That's the one, which makes me a little weary of the QC on this thing. The huge chest and the skinny limbs ruins it for me.

Counterpunch wrote:That thing needs work. It better not be the final design.

I agree with this. The legs need to be beefed up, the head needs some revisions and whatever else to make it look good.

Ugh, that thing's ugly. ANd like others, I've got ML Soundwave for my Classics version.

Yeah I'm put off by this thing too. Music Label looks better, especially with reprolabels. And even if that's not your cup of tea, kitbashing RtS Perceptor into him actually has nice results all its own.

Blurrz wrote:now it's his time to try being a camcorder

Are you sure about that?



Looks more like a handheld dictaphone to me.

The proportions on this guy are way off. Elbows are two high and he either has no knees or they're right under his bum.

When they announced this I said they'd never capture the bulkiness of the original art.

Egg. On. Face. I have to admit, I think I was a bit quick to judge. It doesn't look too bad at all. The chest IS a little on the bulky side. Pity I don't have any cassettes.

Meh. These new images aren't making me want to buy him yet. I wish his faceplate was solid w/o that line going straight down. And the MP Megatron legs really are ruining it for me. To top it off, his shoulder cannon is quite tiny. Not much of a weapon. So far, the only notable feature is the accomodation of G1 Cassetticons.

I think it looks like shite. Much like Tracks & Wheeljack the chest is just way too big, except Track and Wheeljack don't suck (too much)

Not good enough.

Very easy "Pass" for me. WFC Soundwave will still be the represented figure on my shelf.

If this were a Hasbro Deluxe figure that retailed for $15, I would be crapping my pants right now.

Instead, it's going to pre-order for close to $100 and it's just not good enough for that price.

Much as I respect their attempt to fit G1 cassettes into him, that huge chest is a major turnoff. And yet, it IS a Soundwave, so I'll probably find my way toward buying it.

This looks really cool. What would really be awesome is a Blaster and Soundwave that is compatible w/ all of the Perfect Effect "cassettes". Make the alt mode some gun/missile battery that can house several of the guns.

ew

I would total be psyched and would be buying this...

...from Target, Walmart, ToysRUs, or even HTS.com. This just doesn't work. With WFC Soundwave still in stores and Music Label still available cheaper (not to mention everything Fansproject has ever done) this thing just isn't worth it.

These new images are a bit better. I'm somewhat drawn, but also somewhat turned off by some design choices too. Now I knew that head and pelvis looked tiny since they made the chest accomodate tapes. But what really knaws at me is that (teeny) head-sculpt falls flat for me. The headsculpt is one of the most important and identifying parts of a character and I don't know who that is supposed to be. Besides being off target, it is really busy.

OK heres my biggest issue: They went so far out of their way to modernize the head, arms, and legs, yet the torso is still this huge big square block. That works for a G1 figure but not for something meant to blend in with your classics collection. To much is being compromised to allow actual G1 cassettes to fit inside this guy. Who the hell displays G1 cassettes with classics figures anyways ??? Thats what Perfect Effect figures are for.

Just not good enough considering it'll probably cost 45 dollars or more.

With enough bitching and negative reaction, can we will this thing out of production?

These new pictures look a little bit better. They really shouldn't show off the rough white protos. Anyway, I'm still not interested because my Music Label Soundwave is good enough for me.

im all for a decent 3rd party soundwave but the waist scares me. Think i'll stick to buying music label soundwave instead

So this is what it was supposed to look like.

I've got to agree with CP here, it's not good enough. The bar is set pretty high with third party companies these days and I don't believe there is room for all of them to start making their own figures. Maybe BTS should stick to weapon sets, their last one was pretty cool.

I like it so far. A little different, but I like it .

I do not support this Soundwave figure. First of all, it's a stolen design. Second it just looks bad. The bulk of the figure is in the chest, which makes his arms and legs look disproportionate. And then the weapons are just sticks.

UltraPrimal wrote:I do not support this Soundwave figure. First of all, it's a stolen design. Second it just looks bad. The bulk of the figure is in the chest, which makes his arms and legs look disproportionate. And then the weapons are just sticks.

Isn't the vast majority of 3rd party products stolen designs?

Counterpunch wrote:With enough bitching and negative reaction, can we will this thing out of production?

It worked for Two And A Half Men, don't see why it wouldn't work for a toy.

Down_Shift wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:With enough bitching and negative reaction, can we will this thing out of production?

It worked for Two And A Half Men, don't see why it wouldn't work for a toy.

I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised. Most folks on here seem to be dumping a level of negativity on this toy that I normally spew forth in some of my rants. That's saying something since I've been such a grouchy **** lately.

I actually happen to like the looks of this toy. I'm glad to see that the second post about it went up showing more detail of his face. That was my only minor complaint about it previously but seeing it close up it doesn't look so bad. I don't know if I would go so far as to exclude this from the ranks of the Classics/G1 replacements display. Being a 3rd party item I wouldn't consider it an official replacement anyways but I wouldn't leave it off my shelf. I think some of you guys are being even more anal and judgmental than even I tend to be but that is entirely your right.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

UltraPrimal wrote:I do not support this Soundwave figure. First of all, it's a stolen design. Second it just looks bad. The bulk of the figure is in the chest, which makes his arms and legs look disproportionate. And then the weapons are just sticks.

Isn't the vast majority of 3rd party products stolen designs?

Only from iGear. Hey-OOOOOH!

Still nothing here for me. I've got ML and WFC Soundwave and they're just fine and dandy.