Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" Obsidian Production Sample
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Posted by Rated X on June 8th, 2013 @ 6:11pm CDT
Does the term "production sample" mean that they still don't have the actual sets in hand only 18 days before Botcon ?
Posted by Henry921 on June 9th, 2013 @ 1:17am CDT
Still, easily the best figure in the set.
Posted by xyl360 on June 9th, 2013 @ 8:46am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2013 @ 2:05pm CDT
But the gray is show-accurate. That's the closest color any Obsidian toy has ever been to his cartoon colors.xyl360 wrote:Hmm, he seems a lot more gray and a lot less blue than I was hoping for/expecting. I may not be quite so determined to pick him and Strika up after all.
Posted by xyl360 on June 10th, 2013 @ 12:28pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But the gray is show-accurate. That's the closest color any Obsidian toy has ever been to his cartoon colors.xyl360 wrote:Hmm, he seems a lot more gray and a lot less blue than I was hoping for/expecting. I may not be quite so determined to pick him and Strika up after all.
Yeah, that's true, I think the blue just looked nicer to me and the gray more bland (even though show accurate). It would be nice if they'd re-release he and Strika in fully show-accurate colors though (the original toys, not these) but I don't think that will ever happen.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 12:40pm CDT
For now, thought, the BWR toys are the closest options.xyl360 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But the gray is show-accurate. That's the closest color any Obsidian toy has ever been to his cartoon colors.xyl360 wrote:Hmm, he seems a lot more gray and a lot less blue than I was hoping for/expecting. I may not be quite so determined to pick him and Strika up after all.
Yeah, that's true, I think the blue just looked nicer to me and the gray more bland (even though show accurate). It would be nice if they'd re-release he and Strika in fully show-accurate colors though (the original toys, not these) but I don't think that will ever happen.
Posted by xyl360 on June 10th, 2013 @ 12:42pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:For now, thought, the BWR toys are the closest options.xyl360 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But the gray is show-accurate. That's the closest color any Obsidian toy has ever been to his cartoon colors.xyl360 wrote:Hmm, he seems a lot more gray and a lot less blue than I was hoping for/expecting. I may not be quite so determined to pick him and Strika up after all.
Yeah, that's true, I think the blue just looked nicer to me and the gray more bland (even though show accurate). It would be nice if they'd re-release he and Strika in fully show-accurate colors though (the original toys, not these) but I don't think that will ever happen.
For Strika (which I have), yeah. I also have one that I custom painted along with 3 Universe Obsidians (which were a nice shade of dark blue).
Posted by gothsaurus on June 10th, 2013 @ 12:50pm CDT
Seriously, would love to see a pic of the customs you did. It's... well... KINDA pertinent.
Posted by El Duque on June 10th, 2013 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on June 10th, 2013 @ 1:09pm CDT
So far, Skywarp is the only one I don't like out of this set.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 10th, 2013 @ 1:16pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 1:22pm CDT
Regardless, still looks really good as a figure.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 1:42pm CDT
We know one of those is Thundercracker, but the other one is new.Megaplex and his clone army will look very sharp displayed together. Megaplex, Skywarp, XXXX and XXXX all will be revealed at #BotCon2013
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 10th, 2013 @ 1:51pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, this particular Tweet seems very mysterious - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/344110441900953600We know one of those is Thundercracker, but the other one is new.Megaplex and his clone army will look very sharp displayed together. Megaplex, Skywarp, XXXX and XXXX all will be revealed at #BotCon2013
Has to be (based on) BWII Dirge. Or maybe RiD Skyfire?
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 2:04pm CDT
Unless it's a different body-type since both Megaplex and Skywarp/Thundercracker are clones yet have different body-types.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also, this particular Tweet seems very mysterious - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/344110441900953600We know one of those is Thundercracker, but the other one is new.Megaplex and his clone army will look very sharp displayed together. Megaplex, Skywarp, XXXX and XXXX all will be revealed at #BotCon2013
Has to be (based on) BWII Dirge. Or maybe RiD Skyfire?
Posted by Superwheeljack on June 10th, 2013 @ 2:26pm CDT
I swear, no store withing 50-70 miles from my house had him.
The paint looks blah on this figure. Time for customizing
Posted by Windsweeper on June 10th, 2013 @ 3:02pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on June 10th, 2013 @ 3:03pm CDT
Windsweeper wrote:Anyone else think this would look good repainted as G1 Thunderwing?
Ehhh, maybe. But we already have a Classics Thunderwing in the form of Generations Thunderwing.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 10th, 2013 @ 3:45pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 4:59pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 10th, 2013 @ 5:02pm CDT
Is it Burcham's art, or someone emulating him?
EDIT: It is Burcham, just saw the signature on the last panel. The image seems to be titled MWPrequel. Are you sure it's not going to be part of the comic?
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 5:05pm CDT
I dunno. The person who posted it (also for fun) didn't say.Va'al wrote:Nice echo of Milne's Megatron: Origin, there!
Is it Burcham's art, or someone emulating him?
Posted by Mindmaster on June 10th, 2013 @ 5:17pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I dunno. The person who posted it (also for fun) didn't say.Va'al wrote:Nice echo of Milne's Megatron: Origin, there!
Is it Burcham's art, or someone emulating him?
Well, it would explain why his head isn't Megatron-y.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 10th, 2013 @ 5:17pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Nice echo of Milne's Megatron: Origin, there!
Is it Burcham's art, or someone emulating him?
EDIT: It is Burcham, just saw the signature on the last panel. The image seems to be titled MWPrequel. Are you sure it's not going to be part of the comic?
Well played FunPub. Well played.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 5:26pm CDT
That's what the guy who posted it said.Va'al wrote:EDIT: It is Burcham, just saw the signature on the last panel. The image seems to be titled MWPrequel. Are you sure it's not going to be part of the comic?
Unless he was trying to throw us off.
Either way, I'll make no assumptions until official confirmation says one or the other.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2013 @ 6:18pm CDT
I didn't realize it at the time because he was using a screenname, but the person who posted the pic originally was Josh Burcham himself.
But, as I said, it's just a pic made for fun, rather than official.
Posted by Henry921 on June 10th, 2013 @ 6:25pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I dunno. The person who posted it (also for fun) didn't say.Va'al wrote:Nice echo of Milne's Megatron: Origin, there!
Is it Burcham's art, or someone emulating him?
Well, it would explain why his head isn't Megatron-y.
This production sample makes the head look more Megatron-y than ever. I still see Dreadwing when I look at this guy, but he looks more like an original character than he did during the first reveal.
Much as I hate to admit it, Megaplex is starting to appeal to me...
Posted by Tranzilla on June 10th, 2013 @ 7:58pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, this particular Tweet seems very mysterious - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/344110441900953600We know one of those is Thundercracker, but the other one is new.Megaplex and his clone army will look very sharp displayed together. Megaplex, Skywarp, XXXX and XXXX all will be revealed at #BotCon2013
I'm hoping for Thundercracker and a Dirge in Waspy colors from that mold.
Posted by xyl360 on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:59am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:hey xyl360.... pics or it never happened.
Seriously, would love to see a pic of the customs you did. It's... well... KINDA pertinent.
Here you go:
Sorry the camera on my phone kinda sucks, but it's all I got.
Posted by rockman_fan on June 11th, 2013 @ 9:23am CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 11th, 2013 @ 10:13am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 11th, 2013 @ 10:20am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Having trouble telling what changes you've made (probably the camera phone) — though it seems shinier, for sure. I can see some extra silver trim, I think. (?) Any hints?
He added the purple. The chest piece is of the original Beast Machines toy. The Japanese version retained the retooling done for Universe Nemesis Strika, which added an
Posted by xyl360 on June 11th, 2013 @ 10:23am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Having trouble telling what changes you've made (probably the camera phone) — though it seems shinier, for sure. I can see some extra silver trim, I think. (?) Any hints?
He added the purple. The chest piece is of the original Beast Machines toy. The Japanese version retained the retooling done for Universe Nemesis Strika, which added an
Bingo !
I purpled her up, that's all . Not one of my most extensive customs/repaints, but she works well enough for my purposes.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 11th, 2013 @ 10:26am CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 11th, 2013 @ 1:27pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 11th, 2013 @ 1:31pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 11th, 2013 @ 1:37pm CDT
Posted by rpetras on June 11th, 2013 @ 2:29pm CDT
This makes a better Trailbreaker than the upcoming Trailcutter.
Posted by Mkall on June 11th, 2013 @ 2:47pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2013 @ 2:51pm CDT
And, inb4 "He should have been the Cybertron Armorhide/BotCon Huffer or Movie Longarm/ROTF Hoist mold" complaints, TOO BAD! Neither of those molds were readily available for Fun Pub to use! The Unicron Trilogy molds are old and worn out, and Paramount holds part of the license to Movie Longarm's mold. Fun Pub couldn't use either at their leisure, so this is what they had available to work with. Don't like it? Fine. But, don't like cuz it's not what you wanted? DEAL WITH IT!
No one's even forcing you to get/keep this guy. Sell him off to someone who wants him if you feel so inclined.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 11th, 2013 @ 2:57pm CDT
I like this head better than the preproduction, photoshopped one.
Like I said before, because of the recent production samples, I'm more inclined to like the set. Skywarp still needs a better mold, though.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 11th, 2013 @ 2:57pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And, inb4 "He should have been the Cybertron Armorhide/BotCon Huffer or Movie Longarm/ROTF Hoist mold" complaints, TOO BAD! Neither of those molds were readily available for Fun Pub to use! The Unicron Trilogy molds are old and worn out, and Paramount holds part of the license to Movie Longarm's mold. Fun Pub couldn't use either at their expensive, so this is what they had available to work with. Don't like it? Fine. But, don't like cuz it's not what you wanted? DEAL WITH IT!
No one's even forcing you to get/keep this guy. Sell him off to someone who wants him if you feel so inclined.
Whoa, somebody got off the wrong side of the bed.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:01pm CDT
Still, looks good. Can't complain about a black Botcon figure or a nice head sculpt... or a G2 Electro repaint, which I'm sure we can bank on. (plus maybe that yellow dude... uh.... Hubcap... and/or Tow Line, who could go on a shelf with the TFCC Side Burn and SkyByte.) I'm thinking this mold will turn out to be a good choice for the convention.
All things considered, I'll be really disappointed if we don't see a Mirage and Prowl. That's an underused mold and would be some decent looking figures. They could even throw out an insane G2 version as well, ha ha ha.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:02pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And, inb4 "He should have been the Cybertron Armorhide/BotCon Huffer or Movie Longarm/ROTF Hoist mold" complaints, TOO BAD! Neither of those molds were readily available for Fun Pub to use! The Unicron Trilogy molds are old and worn out, and Paramount holds part of the license to Movie Longarm's mold. Fun Pub couldn't use either at their expensive, so this is what they had available to work with. Don't like it? Fine. But, don't like cuz it's not what you wanted? DEAL WITH IT!
No one's even forcing you to get/keep this guy. Sell him off to someone who wants him if you feel so inclined.
Whoa, somebody got off the wrong side of the bed.
Agreed. Now I actually do feel like bitching about this guy not having the right head.
But I can't, because it reminds me of how Soundwave's noggin was drawn in Marvel U.S. #10, an issue with a special place in my heart. Oh, and non-GPS Electro repaint FTW! C'mon 3rd party light-up sword upgrade!
Posted by gothsaurus on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:11pm CDT
Also, I don't know who Electro is...
Posted by Mindmaster on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:13pm CDT
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Also, I don't know who Electro is...
The most infamous case of Gold Plastic Syndrome. Seriously, even if you look at him funny, he crumbles to dust.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:18pm CDT
DecepticonFinishline wrote:I think this one actually looks better in final production mode.
Also, I don't know who Electro is...
Electro is a so-called Laser Rod, figures with LED-lit swords released during Generation 2 in 1994. They were quite articulated for their time, they even had a turning waist with a rubber band, similar to G.I. Joe figures. Electro is quite notorious for having Gold Plastic Syndrome, becoming very brittle over time. He could be the poster child along with the golden G2 Slingshot
Electro was a pickup with the subgroup's trademark engine on the hood, hence the choice of Generations Sergeant Kup, while the head has features of Electro's (overal shape) and Machine Wars Hoist (circles in the head crest). Don't count on the BotCon one getting a sword, though I will be very pleasantly surprised if he did.
Posted by gothsaurus on June 11th, 2013 @ 3:20pm CDT
Posted by El Duque on June 11th, 2013 @ 4:36pm CDT
Hello all,
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