BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas
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Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373839)
Posted by WolfDawg on April 27th, 2012 @ 6:58pm CDT
Posted by WolfDawg on April 27th, 2012 @ 6:58pm CDT
Is...is Hasbro really serious about FOC Bruticus' colors or are they just trying to punk the fandom?
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373843)
Posted by Blurrz on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:07pm CDT
Posted by Blurrz on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:07pm CDT
Lol, Voyager Bumblebee, what a cruel mistress.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373844)
Posted by craggy on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:11pm CDT
Posted by craggy on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:11pm CDT
ewwww. I did say I'd buy FOC Bruticus whatever colours we got, but seeing the individual bots and the combined form...Hasbro is making it difficult for me to keep that promise. Maybe they want it to shelfwarm so people will stop asking for them to make gestalts?
Jazz looks okay, with his blue head. Boximus Prime still terrible, but damn, Shockwave is pretty awesome!
Jazz looks okay, with his blue head. Boximus Prime still terrible, but damn, Shockwave is pretty awesome!
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373850)
Posted by xyl360 on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:21pm CDT
Posted by xyl360 on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:21pm CDT
FOC Bruticus looks OK to me, though I'm still thinking the same thing I've been thinking since I first saw them. Many of them look like retools of WFC figures.
In particular, Brawl in vehicle mode looks a lot like WFC Megatron and Swindle looks a lot like WFC Soundwave.
I'm still getting them in whatever color schemes they get released in, but this 'G2' looking set is definitely for the kiddy crowd, so I expect Takara to do a more 'serious' looking set that everyone will be clamouring for.
In particular, Brawl in vehicle mode looks a lot like WFC Megatron and Swindle looks a lot like WFC Soundwave.
I'm still getting them in whatever color schemes they get released in, but this 'G2' looking set is definitely for the kiddy crowd, so I expect Takara to do a more 'serious' looking set that everyone will be clamouring for.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373851)
Posted by SlyTF1 on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:23pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:23pm CDT
Now, for TF Prime, why did they give Bumblebee a Leader/Weaponizer whatever class and not Megatron!? Why do they keep doing this!? No one wants big ass Bumblebees, we want Optimus and Megatron! If you're going to make a leader sized Optimus, why not make a Megatron that size as well? It makes no sense.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373853)
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:24pm CDT
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:24pm CDT
those bruticus colors are atrocious.
i'm actually starting to warm up to the new fall of cybertron prime. i think he's going to be one of those figures who looks nicer in person.
shockwave, as usual, looks absolutely beautiful. he's got every feature that i loved about the original G1 shockwave.. plus a truly kick ass looking alt mode.
jazz.. he looks good, not great. he could REALLY REALLY REALLY use some red in his design and i wish the blue were darker, and i wish his headlights were painted red. oh well though, i can fix most of that stuff.
i'm interested to see if anything is actually revealed tomorrow.
i'm actually starting to warm up to the new fall of cybertron prime. i think he's going to be one of those figures who looks nicer in person.
shockwave, as usual, looks absolutely beautiful. he's got every feature that i loved about the original G1 shockwave.. plus a truly kick ass looking alt mode.
jazz.. he looks good, not great. he could REALLY REALLY REALLY use some red in his design and i wish the blue were darker, and i wish his headlights were painted red. oh well though, i can fix most of that stuff.
i'm interested to see if anything is actually revealed tomorrow.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373855)
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:27pm CDT
hasbro loves things that make no sense.
i bet a lot more people would pick up the leader prime if megatron had a leader version as well.. most people don't want their primes towering over megatron in their collections. so i doubt they're going to sell as well as they would have if there was a megatron to go along with it.
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:27pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Now, for TF Prime, why did they give Bumblebee a Leader/Weaponizer whatever class and not Megatron!? Why do they keep doing this!? No one wants big ass Bumblebees, we want Optimus and Megatron! If you're going to make a leader sized Optimus, why not make a Megatron that size as well? It makes no sense.
hasbro loves things that make no sense.
i bet a lot more people would pick up the leader prime if megatron had a leader version as well.. most people don't want their primes towering over megatron in their collections. so i doubt they're going to sell as well as they would have if there was a megatron to go along with it.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373856)
Posted by Gearslide on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:28pm CDT
Posted by Gearslide on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:28pm CDT
Wait. Is this the entire Hasbro display? No new figures that we didn't know about on display? Or is that a different event?
Where's Voyager Breakdown, Dreadwing, and Skyquake? Or Deluxe Jet Vehicon?
Where's Voyager Breakdown, Dreadwing, and Skyquake? Or Deluxe Jet Vehicon?
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373857)
Posted by Blurrz on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:41pm CDT
Tomorrow, I think.
Posted by Blurrz on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:41pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:Wait. Is this the entire Hasbro display? No new figures that we didn't know about on display? Or is that a different event?
Where's Voyager Breakdown, Dreadwing, and Skyquake? Or Deluxe Jet Vehicon?
Tomorrow, I think.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373859)
Posted by craggy on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:47pm CDT
Posted by craggy on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:47pm CDT
but it's already tomorrow! give me the new shiny!
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373860)
Posted by Gearslide on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:47pm CDT
Oh, ok. I just seem to recall that we usually get shown a few completely new figures every year.
And how pissed/overjoyed would everyone be if they released color accurate Combaticons, but they only came with a $100/$150 Collector's Edition of Fall of Cybertron?
Posted by Gearslide on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:47pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:Gearslide wrote:Wait. Is this the entire Hasbro display? No new figures that we didn't know about on display? Or is that a different event?
Where's Voyager Breakdown, Dreadwing, and Skyquake? Or Deluxe Jet Vehicon?
Tomorrow, I think.
Oh, ok. I just seem to recall that we usually get shown a few completely new figures every year.
And how pissed/overjoyed would everyone be if they released color accurate Combaticons, but they only came with a $100/$150 Collector's Edition of Fall of Cybertron?
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373863)
Posted by Screamfleet on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:53pm CDT
Posted by Screamfleet on April 27th, 2012 @ 7:53pm CDT
Things are looking good. I need to make sure I got the money and the room. It's been a while since I've planned to buy so many transformers.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373869)
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 8:21pm CDT
there's a sign that says that more stuff should be on display tomorrow.. but i doubt they'll show anything that we don't already know of.. so they should be showing us voyager breakdown and dreadwing.. and deluxe arachnid, the jet vehicon, and deluxe ironhide.
but who knows.. maybe we'll see something totally new.. and maybe we won't even see all of the stuff that we do know of and have seen before. you can never tell.
i'm pretty sure they'll save the best stuff for SDCC.
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 8:21pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:Wait. Is this the entire Hasbro display? No new figures that we didn't know about on display? Or is that a different event?
Where's Voyager Breakdown, Dreadwing, and Skyquake? Or Deluxe Jet Vehicon?
there's a sign that says that more stuff should be on display tomorrow.. but i doubt they'll show anything that we don't already know of.. so they should be showing us voyager breakdown and dreadwing.. and deluxe arachnid, the jet vehicon, and deluxe ironhide.
but who knows.. maybe we'll see something totally new.. and maybe we won't even see all of the stuff that we do know of and have seen before. you can never tell.
i'm pretty sure they'll save the best stuff for SDCC.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373879)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on April 27th, 2012 @ 8:43pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on April 27th, 2012 @ 8:43pm CDT
well the $15 price point just made me stop caring about the FOC figures, they are no way in hell worth $15 each. Out of all the "classics" figures we've gotten over the years these are the most lackluster. They look cool and look better than TFPrime & DOTM but compared to what we got in generations, universe & classics these are the worst. So far seems like the lamest botcon ever, well news wise anyway.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373893)
Posted by Flakmaster on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:06pm CDT
Posted by Flakmaster on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:06pm CDT
I usually refrain from such language but...
These are the biggest pieces of shit I have ever laid eyes on.
WFC Bruticus has had the last shred of goodness taken from him in the form of his crappy color scheme, and all of the others (with the exception of Shockwave) are just as bad as they looked at Toyfair.
PRID is all of the same old suckish stuff that we've seen before.
Bad job, Hasbro, bad job.
These are the biggest pieces of shit I have ever laid eyes on.
WFC Bruticus has had the last shred of goodness taken from him in the form of his crappy color scheme, and all of the others (with the exception of Shockwave) are just as bad as they looked at Toyfair.
PRID is all of the same old suckish stuff that we've seen before.
Bad job, Hasbro, bad job.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373904)
Posted by Sodan-1 on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:21pm CDT
Posted by Sodan-1 on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:21pm CDT
Yep, they've officially lost me on the FoC Combaticons. I think they're vile.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373907)
Posted by Down_Shift on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:30pm CDT
Posted by Down_Shift on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:30pm CDT
Man the Combaticons look awful! Wave one looks pretty good to me, but I have a feeling Takara is gonna pull one of those "look how much BETTER we did it" kinda things.
We'll see some new stuff tomorrow in the cases, and we'll get new info and a no-pictures allowed preview of the next few waves of Generations combiners and Prime stuff. Here's hoping for some more Thirteen.
On the bright side though, the chick in the Road Kill T-shirts adds has a fantastic rack and that more then makes up for ugly Combaticons.
We'll see some new stuff tomorrow in the cases, and we'll get new info and a no-pictures allowed preview of the next few waves of Generations combiners and Prime stuff. Here's hoping for some more Thirteen.
On the bright side though, the chick in the Road Kill T-shirts adds has a fantastic rack and that more then makes up for ugly Combaticons.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373912)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:41pm CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:41pm CDT
I'm almost 100% certain that Bruticus sample is the exact same one used at Toy Fair earlier this year.
I looked at some high res photos, earlier tonight, and if you look closely, you can see where the day-glo paint is chipping off of the figures. All of them have it happening. What we're seeing is not the final product. That doesn't mean the colors will change, it just means that what's on display isn't production quality or production ready.
Plus, if you look at Brut's left hand, it's scrawny and thin. If you look at his right hand, it's all fat and weird. I think it's a work in progress and they haven't settled on it's final status, just yet.
Blurrz is correct. There's a tag on display that says something along the lines of "Come back to the display after tomorrow's panel". That's not the exact wording, but close.
I looked at some high res photos, earlier tonight, and if you look closely, you can see where the day-glo paint is chipping off of the figures. All of them have it happening. What we're seeing is not the final product. That doesn't mean the colors will change, it just means that what's on display isn't production quality or production ready.
Plus, if you look at Brut's left hand, it's scrawny and thin. If you look at his right hand, it's all fat and weird. I think it's a work in progress and they haven't settled on it's final status, just yet.
Blurrz wrote:Gearslide wrote:Wait. Is this the entire Hasbro display? No new figures that we didn't know about on display? Or is that a different event?
Where's Voyager Breakdown, Dreadwing, and Skyquake? Or Deluxe Jet Vehicon?
Tomorrow, I think.
Blurrz is correct. There's a tag on display that says something along the lines of "Come back to the display after tomorrow's panel". That's not the exact wording, but close.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373919)
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:52pm CDT
Kids want him. You know ... the ones these things are created for?
Time people really accepted that. It would save them a lot of heart ache and bandwidth.
FOC Bruticus ... yeah, combiner fail again. Why are they having so much trouble getting combiners right these days when they had such great success in the past?
And FOC Shockwave ... sweeeeeeeeeet.
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:52pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Now, for TF Prime, why did they give Bumblebee a Leader/Weaponizer whatever class and not Megatron!? Why do they keep doing this!? No one wants big ass Bumblebees, we want Optimus and Megatron! If you're going to make a leader sized Optimus, why not make a Megatron that size as well? It makes no sense.
Kids want him. You know ... the ones these things are created for?
Time people really accepted that. It would save them a lot of heart ache and bandwidth.
FOC Bruticus ... yeah, combiner fail again. Why are they having so much trouble getting combiners right these days when they had such great success in the past?
And FOC Shockwave ... sweeeeeeeeeet.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373920)
Posted by kirbenvost on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:54pm CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:54pm CDT
I really hope those aren't the final colors for Bruticus, and I hope Hasbro tells if they are or not soon. The sculpt is pretty nice though.
As for the rest, Shockwave looks amazing, Jazz is okay but could use some black or other paint detail or something, and Prime is pretty meh. Some of the sculpt is good but we really didn't need Fatimus 2.0.
Botshots... I wish that green Brawl was available separately. I really don't want to add yet another Bumblebee to my collection just to get him... or Prime, for that matter.
Prime... wake me up when they show something new.
As for the rest, Shockwave looks amazing, Jazz is okay but could use some black or other paint detail or something, and Prime is pretty meh. Some of the sculpt is good but we really didn't need Fatimus 2.0.
Botshots... I wish that green Brawl was available separately. I really don't want to add yet another Bumblebee to my collection just to get him... or Prime, for that matter.
Prime... wake me up when they show something new.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373921)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:54pm CDT
I'm willing to overlook the colors, I mean, I've seen and own worse. The proportions are definitely odd, but again, nothing new.
...it's those friggin' connectors that bother me. These giant flip out PCC blocks that are sitting there in plain sight for no conceivable reason. I'd think they'd go out of their way to hide them when they're so unsightly.
...buuuuut noooo.
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:54pm CDT
Burn wrote:FOC Bruticus ... yeah, combiner fail again. Why are they having so much trouble getting combiners right these days when they had such great success in the past?
I'm willing to overlook the colors, I mean, I've seen and own worse. The proportions are definitely odd, but again, nothing new.
...it's those friggin' connectors that bother me. These giant flip out PCC blocks that are sitting there in plain sight for no conceivable reason. I'd think they'd go out of their way to hide them when they're so unsightly.
...buuuuut noooo.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373926)
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:58pm CDT
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 9:58pm CDT
Exactly! And really, Onslaught isn't bigger than the rest of them?
Colours can be ignored because of the massive engineering fail. What's that Hasbro? You don't like learning from the past? You just like to keep bumbling through?
Colours can be ignored because of the massive engineering fail. What's that Hasbro? You don't like learning from the past? You just like to keep bumbling through?
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373928)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:03pm CDT
Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Onslaught should tower over them, really. He's what? An armored...weapons platform or something? Brawl should be close in size, because he's a TANK. Vortex and Blast-Off seem to be reasonably sized, due to them being smaller vehicles, but the sizes just...ARGH!
Although, Blast-Off's cockpit windows give me the impression that he would be a rather sizable craft. Perhaps a cargo ship or a troop transport. Vortex should be the smallest, yet he matches them. All of them.
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:03pm CDT
Burn wrote:Exactly! And really, Onslaught isn't bigger than the rest of them?
Colours can be ignored because of the massive engineering fail. What's that Hasbro? You don't like learning from the past? You just like to keep bumbling through?
Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Onslaught should tower over them, really. He's what? An armored...weapons platform or something? Brawl should be close in size, because he's a TANK. Vortex and Blast-Off seem to be reasonably sized, due to them being smaller vehicles, but the sizes just...ARGH!
Although, Blast-Off's cockpit windows give me the impression that he would be a rather sizable craft. Perhaps a cargo ship or a troop transport. Vortex should be the smallest, yet he matches them. All of them.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373931)
Posted by DISCHARGE on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:13pm CDT
I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure the people there are having fun, but there isn't the fanfare there usually is. I think squashing 3rd parties out really
broke some of the fun of what should be a big party.
On to the figures. I only checked out the FOC stuff, all the other stuff is really uninteresting. I like 'em all so far. Jazz is winning in the new toy dept, for me at least. I don't even care about the colors on Bruticus, it's a kids toy first and he looks like fun. Prime has grown on me and Shockwave, well, hes' definitely the weakest of the bunch
(that last bit is sarcasm)
Posted by DISCHARGE on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:13pm CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote: So far seems like the lamest botcon ever, well news wise anyway.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure the people there are having fun, but there isn't the fanfare there usually is. I think squashing 3rd parties out really
broke some of the fun of what should be a big party.
On to the figures. I only checked out the FOC stuff, all the other stuff is really uninteresting. I like 'em all so far. Jazz is winning in the new toy dept, for me at least. I don't even care about the colors on Bruticus, it's a kids toy first and he looks like fun. Prime has grown on me and Shockwave, well, hes' definitely the weakest of the bunch
(that last bit is sarcasm)
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373932)
Posted by RAcast on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:16pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:16pm CDT
Oh man, Kreo Swindle! As much as I liked Legos when I was a kid (and, quite frankly still do, but I don't still buy them often), none of the Kreo stuff has caught my eye until now. That Swindle is just too good to pass up!
I still can't get behind the blue limbs on Jazz though, it just doesn't have the same aesthetic. *shrug* I DO however like Optimus quite a lot; it reminds me of the War Within design, which only got the terrible Titanium figure which I haven't bothered to pick up. This makes me happy that they're re-using the basic design.
As for FOC Bruticus, I don't hate it, quite frankly I have no issues with the color scheme. If I have an issues, it's the weird lankyness, but I'm holding off judgement until we have an in-hand review.
I still can't get behind the blue limbs on Jazz though, it just doesn't have the same aesthetic. *shrug* I DO however like Optimus quite a lot; it reminds me of the War Within design, which only got the terrible Titanium figure which I haven't bothered to pick up. This makes me happy that they're re-using the basic design.
As for FOC Bruticus, I don't hate it, quite frankly I have no issues with the color scheme. If I have an issues, it's the weird lankyness, but I'm holding off judgement until we have an in-hand review.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373937)
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:53pm CDT
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 10:53pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373942)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:07pm CDT
They'd hate me. Total teetotaler. I'm a water guy. I've even cut soda out of my diet.
I'd totally love to see one or more of them either hungover or slightly intoxicated and go to the panel. The questions. Ohh...the questions.
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:07pm CDT
Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
They'd hate me. Total teetotaler. I'm a water guy. I've even cut soda out of my diet.
I'd totally love to see one or more of them either hungover or slightly intoxicated and go to the panel. The questions. Ohh...the questions.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373944)
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:19pm CDT
Posted by Burn on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:19pm CDT
I'm no better really. Might have a drink once or twice a year.
Friend Delicon on Facebook and help me and robofreak spam his wall. We'll make it a new BotCon tradition for the staff who didn't make it there.
Friend Delicon on Facebook and help me and robofreak spam his wall. We'll make it a new BotCon tradition for the staff who didn't make it there.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373945)
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:22pm CDT
you like jazz over shockwave?
i think i like shockwave a bit more.. and i really want to get my hands on the new prime.
i just wish jazz had a little darker blue, and more red.
Posted by TimothyR on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:22pm CDT
DISCHARGE wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote: So far seems like the lamest botcon ever, well news wise anyway.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure the people there are having fun, but there isn't the fanfare there usually is. I think squashing 3rd parties out really
broke some of the fun of what should be a big party.
On to the figures. I only checked out the FOC stuff, all the other stuff is really uninteresting. I like 'em all so far. Jazz is winning in the new toy dept, for me at least. I don't even care about the colors on Bruticus, it's a kids toy first and he looks like fun. Prime has grown on me and Shockwave, well, hes' definitely the weakest of the bunch
you like jazz over shockwave?
i think i like shockwave a bit more.. and i really want to get my hands on the new prime.
i just wish jazz had a little darker blue, and more red.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373953)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:43pm CDT
Heh.
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:43pm CDT
Burn wrote:I'm no better really. Might have a drink once or twice a year.
Friend Delicon on Facebook and help me and robofreak spam his wall. We'll make it a new BotCon tradition for the staff who didn't make it there.
Heh.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373957)
Posted by SlyTF1 on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:55pm CDT
Well, they should release more Decepticons for more...troubled kids such as myself.
Posted by SlyTF1 on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:55pm CDT
Burn wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Now, for TF Prime, why did they give Bumblebee a Leader/Weaponizer whatever class and not Megatron!? Why do they keep doing this!? No one wants big ass Bumblebees, we want Optimus and Megatron! If you're going to make a leader sized Optimus, why not make a Megatron that size as well? It makes no sense.
Kids want him. You know ... the ones these things are created for?
Well, they should release more Decepticons for more...troubled kids such as myself.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373959)
Posted by OmicronZero on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:58pm CDT
Posted by OmicronZero on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:58pm CDT
FOC Combaticons/Bruticus really, really need better colors. I mean, all the other Fall of Cybertron (and War for Cybertron) figures seem to match their game colors and models pretty impressively well. I've no idea why Hasbro just suddenly changed it up and/or dropped the ball here.
The models/sculpts for them on the other hand, I like. Well, mostly. Some of them look like they could use a little touching up, and I would like it if Onslaught were at least a little bigger (a very large deluxe if not just a voyager). Of course the Combaticons scale has never made all that much sense. I mean, Blast-Off is a freaking space shuttle. Those things are massive.
Really I'd be very happy with the Combaticons if they just gave them their proper colors and made them look better as Bruticus. It'd be nice if they cleaned up the connectors, but I can get past that if it just leads to a good looking Bruticus.
As for the other Generations/FOC figures, Shockwave looks amazing to me. Hands down the best Shockwave figure I've ever seen. Also I'm hoping there's a pseudo-blaster mode for added G1 awesome. I kind of like Jazz, I'm not big on all of the wheels, but overall the sculpt looks pretty good in both modes. The issue seems to just be that he looks very bland, which some added paint apps could very well fix. Optimus I'm just not sure about. The one shown on display in this gallery actually looks pretty nice, and was making me lean towards making him a must-buy. Then I noticed that the one being displayed in the packaging doesn't look nearly as good. Wondering which will be the retail version, and assuming it will be the less impressive looking in-package one. If it does, however, turn out to be the shinier, more detailed(?), red-autobrand version, I'll surely pick it up.
The models/sculpts for them on the other hand, I like. Well, mostly. Some of them look like they could use a little touching up, and I would like it if Onslaught were at least a little bigger (a very large deluxe if not just a voyager). Of course the Combaticons scale has never made all that much sense. I mean, Blast-Off is a freaking space shuttle. Those things are massive.
Really I'd be very happy with the Combaticons if they just gave them their proper colors and made them look better as Bruticus. It'd be nice if they cleaned up the connectors, but I can get past that if it just leads to a good looking Bruticus.
As for the other Generations/FOC figures, Shockwave looks amazing to me. Hands down the best Shockwave figure I've ever seen. Also I'm hoping there's a pseudo-blaster mode for added G1 awesome. I kind of like Jazz, I'm not big on all of the wheels, but overall the sculpt looks pretty good in both modes. The issue seems to just be that he looks very bland, which some added paint apps could very well fix. Optimus I'm just not sure about. The one shown on display in this gallery actually looks pretty nice, and was making me lean towards making him a must-buy. Then I noticed that the one being displayed in the packaging doesn't look nearly as good. Wondering which will be the retail version, and assuming it will be the less impressive looking in-package one. If it does, however, turn out to be the shinier, more detailed(?), red-autobrand version, I'll surely pick it up.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373960)
Posted by BATTOUSAIXD on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:58pm CDT
Posted by BATTOUSAIXD on April 27th, 2012 @ 11:58pm CDT
FOC: I like Blast Off, Brawl, Shockwave, and OP a lot, so I'm definitely getting those. I'll probably get the rest of the Combaticons as well.
Prime: Voyager Megatron,Optimus, Starscream, Dreadwing and deluxe Soundwave, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack, and Vehicon are all on my list. The Weaponizers Prime looks a little bulky, I'll have to see it in person, but I'll only consider buying it if Megatron gets a Weaponizer class. And I'm really wondering if Bumblebee is still so popular among kids that they will want another Leader-ish size? I have cousin, who is eight, and he is more interested in the big truck Transformers. I've had to transform his Leader ROTF OP and DOTM Sentinel for him and I know he also has HFTD SS, Ultimate OP, and Ironhide. He may have a Leader Bumblebee he got for Christmas or something, but he seems far more interested in the big trucks and jet. Does anyone else have any kids or around any that really love Bumblebee? Just curious.
I guess I had better start saving up some money...
Prime: Voyager Megatron,Optimus, Starscream, Dreadwing and deluxe Soundwave, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack, and Vehicon are all on my list. The Weaponizers Prime looks a little bulky, I'll have to see it in person, but I'll only consider buying it if Megatron gets a Weaponizer class. And I'm really wondering if Bumblebee is still so popular among kids that they will want another Leader-ish size? I have cousin, who is eight, and he is more interested in the big truck Transformers. I've had to transform his Leader ROTF OP and DOTM Sentinel for him and I know he also has HFTD SS, Ultimate OP, and Ironhide. He may have a Leader Bumblebee he got for Christmas or something, but he seems far more interested in the big trucks and jet. Does anyone else have any kids or around any that really love Bumblebee? Just curious.
I guess I had better start saving up some money...
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373969)
Posted by Gandalf on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:35am CDT
Posted by Gandalf on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:35am CDT
Are these "new deluxes" still looking undersized? Please say it ain't so.
I could actually deal with the $14.99 MSRP if they are all still in scale with previous Universe/Generations figures.
On a positive note, I LOVE the new, more prominent character art on the Generations packaging.
I could actually deal with the $14.99 MSRP if they are all still in scale with previous Universe/Generations figures.
On a positive note, I LOVE the new, more prominent character art on the Generations packaging.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373971)
Posted by DISCHARGE on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:36am CDT
Shockwave is Shockwave, I expect him to be cool.
But I don't often like the looks of Autobot toys. This Jazz toy really gives me a vibe of what he would have looked like before his G1 persona. I seriously can imagine him in the heat of battle and he's got some metal, techno or gangsta rap blasting in the background.
When I first peeked his image a while back, he just looked strange, unJazzlike, interesting.
Almost like they'd made him look as if made for the Titaniums line.
I really anticipate him looking good next to Titaniums Prowl(even if he will be a tad smaller).
I don't get hung up an scale or minor coloring issues.
Posted by DISCHARGE on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:36am CDT
TimothyR wrote:DISCHARGE wrote:
On to the figures. I only checked out the FOC stuff, all the other stuff is really uninteresting. I like 'em all so far. Jazz is winning in the new toy dept, for me at least. I don't even care about the colors on Bruticus, it's a kids toy first and he looks like fun. Prime has grown on me and Shockwave, well, hes' definitely the weakest of the bunch
you like jazz over shockwave?
i think i like shockwave a bit more.. and i really want to get my hands on the new prime.
i just wish jazz had a little darker blue, and more red.
Shockwave is Shockwave, I expect him to be cool.
But I don't often like the looks of Autobot toys. This Jazz toy really gives me a vibe of what he would have looked like before his G1 persona. I seriously can imagine him in the heat of battle and he's got some metal, techno or gangsta rap blasting in the background.
When I first peeked his image a while back, he just looked strange, unJazzlike, interesting.
Almost like they'd made him look as if made for the Titaniums line.
I really anticipate him looking good next to Titaniums Prowl(even if he will be a tad smaller).
I don't get hung up an scale or minor coloring issues.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373977)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:50am CDT
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:50am CDT
Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373985)
Posted by User897 on April 28th, 2012 @ 1:31am CDT
Posted by User897 on April 28th, 2012 @ 1:31am CDT
Shockwave actually looks pretty good in bot mode, but his alt mode is pants. Looks like I'm gonna save a LOT of money on new Transformers this year! I really wish Hasbro would make some toys that people want. Nix the Kre-o and Prime crap!
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1373988)
Posted by Vicalliose on April 28th, 2012 @ 1:55am CDT
Posted by Vicalliose on April 28th, 2012 @ 1:55am CDT
Welp, everything in the product display that we didn't already know about looks crap. So you guys gonna scream and shout about the First Editions or are you just going to sit on your hands? Seriously, if they don't give us any word on this I'll be pissed. Somebody throw a tomato for me will ya?
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374007)
Posted by Burn on April 28th, 2012 @ 4:41am CDT
I presume you have video ...
Posted by Burn on April 28th, 2012 @ 4:41am CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
I presume you have video ...
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374027)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on April 28th, 2012 @ 7:31am CDT
Posted by Doubledealer93 on April 28th, 2012 @ 7:31am CDT
oh hell yes, I'm getting all those FOC toys! ALL OF THEM! i hope there is a megatron. and i was hoping that they would show the starscream figure.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374035)
Posted by Che on April 28th, 2012 @ 8:29am CDT
I am afraid so. That's what people at botcon is saying at tfw2005. They are more like big scouts than deluxes. It's kind of bs marketing to call them "deluxes". So far, only foc shocks seems good in my opinion, although the shrunken size kind turns me off. I would pay more to have the old size back, not the same to have it smaller... What I really fear is to see this new "deluxe" in classics generations line. I don't want figures like blurr and kup looking like monster trucks near the new ones. That would be sad. HasTak is really getting cheap. Seriously, even "voyagers" are coming with ball joints for shoulders and hips connections (compare that to old voyagers like mindwipe, seaspray or even skyhammer...). This botcon so far is just making me spend money with 3rd party and bandai...
Posted by Che on April 28th, 2012 @ 8:29am CDT
Gandalf wrote:Are these "new deluxes" still looking undersized? Please say it ain't so.
I am afraid so. That's what people at botcon is saying at tfw2005. They are more like big scouts than deluxes. It's kind of bs marketing to call them "deluxes". So far, only foc shocks seems good in my opinion, although the shrunken size kind turns me off. I would pay more to have the old size back, not the same to have it smaller... What I really fear is to see this new "deluxe" in classics generations line. I don't want figures like blurr and kup looking like monster trucks near the new ones. That would be sad. HasTak is really getting cheap. Seriously, even "voyagers" are coming with ball joints for shoulders and hips connections (compare that to old voyagers like mindwipe, seaspray or even skyhammer...). This botcon so far is just making me spend money with 3rd party and bandai...
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374051)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 9:19am CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 9:19am CDT
Those are the finalized colors for the Combaticons, correct? They certainly look better than the first original pictures. That combined rifle of his though... displaying him WITHOUT that. Looks really ridiculous on him.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374053)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 9:45am CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 9:45am CDT
Oh yeah, and does anyone mind sending me scans of that comic? Looks like a real good eye-opener! 
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374065)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on April 28th, 2012 @ 10:56am CDT
There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on April 28th, 2012 @ 10:56am CDT
Burn wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
I presume you have video ...
There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374068)
Posted by Geekee1 on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:14am CDT
Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video
Posted by Geekee1 on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:14am CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
I presume you have video ...
There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.
Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374074)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:47am CDT
Jesus, what wondrous shenanigans happened there...?
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:47am CDT
Geekee1 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
I presume you have video ...
There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.
Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video
Jesus, what wondrous shenanigans happened there...?
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374075)
Posted by Geekee1 on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:49am CDT
Two words - Piston Fistin'... ask Christian.
Posted by Geekee1 on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:49am CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Geekee1 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
I presume you have video ...
There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.
Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video
Jesus, what wondrous shenanigans happened there...?
Two words - Piston Fistin'... ask Christian.
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374076)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:53am CDT
Y'know, I don't think I wanna know anymore...
Posted by Mindmaster on April 28th, 2012 @ 11:53am CDT
Geekee1 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Geekee1 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:Burn wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Where is Counterpunch with that Hasbro dropping the ball pic, when we need him?!
Most likely in the same hotel bar Lysoby and the rest of them are.
Tis true, I am an eyewitness.
I presume you have video ...
There shall be no video of hotel bar shenanigans unless for blackmail purposes.
Ask them about the unreleased 2008 hotel room video
Jesus, what wondrous shenanigans happened there...?
Two words - Piston Fistin'... ask Christian.
Y'know, I don't think I wanna know anymore...
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374092)
Posted by Anonymous on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:46pm CDT
Posted by Anonymous on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:46pm CDT
FoC Jazz
Re: BotCon 2012 Coverage: Hasbro Product Displays: Generations, Prime, Kre-o, HoF, Dioramas (1374096)
Posted by Erailea on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:55pm CDT
Has there been a confirmed price point on these? Just curious given how small people are saying they are.
Posted by Erailea on April 28th, 2012 @ 12:55pm CDT
Gandalf wrote:Are these "new deluxes" still looking undersized? Please say it ain't so.
I could actually deal with the $14.99 MSRP if they are all still in scale with previous Universe/Generations figures.
Has there been a confirmed price point on these? Just curious given how small people are saying they are.
