6" Titanium The Fallen and Cheetor Galleries Now Online!

Woah! Boss man, you gotta give yourself a break! Eat a sandwich and get some rest while we look at your galleries.

I'm not really digging either of these figures. Sorry, it's just me.

On the other hand, I'm staring at The fallen and trying to find a bad point about it... and failing utterly.

I'm SERIOUSLY considering getting two - one to keep as is, and one to repaint as Bludgeon.

*Gasp* Dude, I have gotta have The Fallen. Cheetor is also pretty cool. But really Ryan, take a break. You & Hot Rod need one. Still, I wouldn't mind if you did a Fort Max gallery.........lol

I'm glad that you guys are enjoying all of the hard work that the staff puts into the site. On that note, I am far from being done with this most recent gallery push. I have about 100 galleries on my laptop that I need to finish that I've started during the past 6 months. I've been slacking! Plenty more on the way from yours truly. Rumble, Airazor, Astrotrain, his respective Mini-Cons, Titanium WW Megatron and Titanium Ultra Magnus are all on their way. Hopefully in the next weekend or two I'll have a chance to lock myself up in my apartment to start knocking out some of the older galleries that I've been putting off for a while. Remember my post back in December about the upcoming Combaticon and Aerialbot galleries??? Remember my goal to hit 1,095 galleries by January 4th? I might have missed that goal ... that just means that I need to hit around 1,185 galleries by April 4th. If you take the 100 galleries that are about 1/2 finished, I could be there in the next few weeks but I don't think I'll get quite that far.

Dude, you rule

I think the first 21 pics of the Fallen are kind of odd. I know you switched to the white after doing those pics, I just would have expected to use white all the way through the Fallen's gallery just because of the whole black on black thing.

It actually works though. I dunno if you were going for the creepy bot thing these pictures had going for them, but it's actually a good thing imo.

ShGarland_1383 wrote:I think the first 21 pics of the Fallen are kind of odd. I know you switched to the white after doing those pics, I just would have expected to use white all the way through the Fallen's gallery just because of the whole black on black thing.

It actually works though. I dunno if you were going for the creepy bot thing these pictures had going for them, but it's actually a good thing imo.

Those first 21 pics are from way back when Seibs actually recieved the figures. I like them better on the white, brings out more detail. I see you also couldn't get rid of Cheetors tail. I was really really let down with that. Uber let down as were.

Hate to nit pick, but it's just "Fallen" and not "The Fallen" This Fallen and the much Dream Wave The Fallen are far and wide from each other... that goes down as the nerdiest thing I've ever said...

But seriously, awsome job boss. I should have my Magnus and WW Megs in about a week from the snail, I can't wait for those.

Well it says "Fallen" on the box and "The Fallen" on the display base, so I guess it's up for debate what his name actually is.

But you are right, this figure of the character is actually quite different from the way it was drawn in the comics.

yeah they used megatron's cybertronian form from the idwverse

bludgeon was cute little bugger wasn't he?lol

Cheetor is suprisingly good, with a great alt-mode, and an excellent bot mode(with great articulation for a Titanium).

Fallen actually pisses me off, while he has his good points(very heavy, nice bot mode, good articulation, great head sculpt), his tank mode treads were horribly, lazily done. They just flop around in alt mode...there should have been more to it than that.

Down_Shift wrote:Hate to nit pick, but it's just "Fallen" and not "The Fallen" This Fallen and the much Dream Wave The Fallen are far and wide from each other... that goes down as the nerdiest thing I've ever said...

Nerd alert! What's the difference, Down_Shift?

Just counted the # of galleries that I'd started but not finished. I think there're 106 unfinished galleries if I counted them correctly.


ARMADA
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Laserbeak
Powerlinx Jetfire x2


ALTERNATORS
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Rumble
Camshaft


BOTCON
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Airazor
Astrotrain & Mini-Cons x5
Deathsaurus
Fallback
Ricochet


BEAST WARS
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Iguanus
Iguanus (Transmetal)
Insecticon
Scavenger
Slapper
Slapper (Transmetal)
Night Glider
Stinkbomb


BEAST WARS NEO
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Bump
Crazybolt


BEAST WARS II
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Drillnuts
Scissor Boy


ROBOT MASTERS
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Bound Rogue
Psycho Orb


ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
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Dark Scream
Gas Skunk
Slapper
Scourge (Spychanger)
X-Brawn (Spychanger)
Baldigus x6
Ruination x6
Ruination (Arctic Camo) x6


UNIVERSE
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Iguanus
Magna Stampede
Ruination (Desert Camo) x6
Superion x7
Ratchet


CYBERTRON
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Metroplex w/ Drill Bit x2
Giant Planet Mini-Cons x3


GENERATION ONE & TWO
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Twincast & Flipsides x2
Bruticus x6
Bruticus - G2 x6
Superion x6
Superion - G2 x6
Deszaras


STAR WARS TRANSFORMERS
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Chewbacca
Han Solo
Clone Pilot (1)
Clone Pilot (2)
Darth Vader (Sith Starfighter)
Emperor Palpatine
Jango Fett

can't wait to see the The Fallen show up in stores. I really love the War Within stuff. Only thing i'm still not crazy on is the fists are really blocky, but I knew that from the pictures we saw earlier of it.

Does this toy of the Fallen mean that the Fallen is considered a canonical character?

cellshock wrote:Well it says "Fallen" on the box and "The Fallen" on the display base, so I guess it's up for debate what his name actually is.

But you are right, this figure of the character is actually quite different from the way it was drawn in the comics.

Ooo good eye! I have the figure and to be honest I didn't notice it on the name plate.

Leonardo wrote:Nerd alert! What's the difference, Down_Shift?

... I deserve that comment. It was waaaay to nerdy. The difference to me is the look of the character. Almost feels like this is IDWs version of The Fallen as opposed to DW.

Chief, take all the time you need to get those galleries up. You have some great figures there! BW Insecticon is my second favorite Basic, ever. He's up there with Armorhide, on my list.

i like how they paired one of the first 'experiments' of transformers designs by primus and the last evolution of the transformers together.

The Cheetor gallery is fantastic. The figure....meh. I don't really like Transformers that barely transform. It's one of the problems I had with Beast Machines.

The Fallen has really grown on me. I ordered mine and it should be here in a couple of days. It'll be interesting to compare to the Energon Bruticus tanks.

Down_Shift wrote:The difference to me is the look of the character. Almost feels like this is IDWs version of The Fallen as opposed to DW.

I see exactly what you're saying.

Leonardo wrote:Does this toy of the Fallen mean that the Fallen is considered a canonical character?

I'm not sure Hasbro is at all concerned about canon

Down_Shift wrote:The difference to me is the look of the character. Almost feels like this is IDWs version of The Fallen as opposed to DW.

It is. The original The Fallen was drawn by Pat Lee for Dreamwave and has since been slightly re-done by Don Figueroa for IDW. And since Don is also now directly involved with designing ALL of the War Within titanium figures (as well as the G1 Scourge, Rodimus Prime & Ultra Magnus titaniums), it makes sense that what he did for The Fallen would follow his own version rather than Pat Lee's.

Pat Lee's original version was decent, but poorly thought-out when it came to actual transformation. Don, on the other hand, is not only a freakishly good artist but also has a natural sixth sense for being able to design (or modify the designs of existing) characters in a way that can directly translate into toy forms should Hasbro want them to... rather than the other way around where the toy usually comes first. All of his War Within stuff was created from the get-go to be functional toys if the opportunity ever arose (which it did thankfully), and just look at what he managed to think up for G1 Rodimus & Magnus. Over 20 years later, we finally have versions of these characters that are accurate single-piece molds that still look like the way they were depicted in the cartoons & comics.

Hehe, sorry for the Don F. worship here - I just want the guy to get as much credit as he deserves :) He's proven that he is not only one of, if not THE, best TF artists out there, but now he's able to take his talents to the next level and give us some of the best figures we've seen yet. I just hope Hasbro gets him involved with making some larger plastic versions of characters as well, and not keeping him stuck just doing 6" Titaniums.

Both brill figures. Looking forward to Fallen more.

Sweet galleries. Now I really want to get the Fallen. I was thinking about passing on Cheetor, but not anymore.

cellshock wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:The difference to me is the look of the character. Almost feels like this is IDWs version of The Fallen as opposed to DW.

It is. The original The Fallen was drawn by Pat Lee for Dreamwave and has since been slightly re-done by Don Figueroa for IDW. And since Don is also now directly involved with designing ALL of the War Within titanium figures (as well as the G1 Scourge, Rodimus Prime & Ultra Magnus titaniums), it makes sense that what he did for The Fallen would follow his own version rather than Pat Lee's.

Pat Lee's original version was decent, but poorly thought-out when it came to actual transformation. Don, on the other hand, is not only a freakishly good artist but also has a natural sixth sense for being able to design (or modify the designs of existing) characters in a way that can directly translate into toy forms should Hasbro want them to... rather than the other way around where the toy usually comes first. All of his War Within stuff was created from the get-go to be functional toys if the opportunity ever arose (which it did thankfully), and just look at what he managed to think up for G1 Rodimus & Magnus. Over 20 years later, we finally have versions of these characters that are accurate single-piece molds that still look like the way they were depicted in the cartoons & comics.

Hehe, sorry for the Don F. worship here - I just want the guy to get as much credit as he deserves He's proven that he is not only one of, if not THE, best TF artists out there, but now he's able to take his talents to the next level and give us some of the best figures we've seen yet. I just hope Hasbro gets him involved with making some larger plastic versions of characters as well, and not keeping him stuck just doing 6" Titaniums.

I agree, Don deserves troves of rewards and praise for his efforts. I still think Lees Fallen was a much better design, both in bot and tank mode, but DFs is pretty awsome as well.

Down_Shift wrote:Hate to nit pick, but it's just "Fallen" and not "The Fallen" This Fallen and the much Dream Wave The Fallen are far and wide from each other... that goes down as the nerdiest thing I've ever said...

Whu.....?


Wasn't this the figure for the guy from War Within that was among the first 13 or whatever, who were created to protect Primus while in his Planet mode, only to betray them and go over to Unicron instead? Thought that was a Dream Wave story and that his name was "the Fallen".....

Agamemnon wrote:

Leonardo wrote:Does this toy of the Fallen mean that the Fallen is considered a canonical character?

I'm not sure Hasbro is at all concerned about canon

I'm not sure that they are either, but as we learn from Vector Prime the idea of the first 13 I was talking about before is at least cannon enough to get brought up in Cybertron (even if it was just to claim Vector Prime was among the first transformers created by Primus).

Gosh The fallen looks like a cross between magatron and armada Tidal Wave.

What drove home me wanting Cheetor were the robot mode action picks, and your pics of a somehow reoccuring character finaly getting a decent design.

It was nice how you sealed it shut by standing him before all the crappy attempts prior.

The Fallen just looks cool!

I think this version of Cheetor is the most cartoon accurate so far, that is another reason why I want him now. Plus I have started a bit of a Cheetor collection kick this past year

83457W422102 wrote:Woah! Boss man, you gotta give yourself a break! Eat a sandwich and get some rest while we look at your galleries.

I'm not really digging either of these figures. Sorry, it's just me.

I like Cheetor a lot, but "the fallen" just seems a waste of space too me.

Yeah, great job Seibertron! Your newest galleries have been so awesome! Ironhide, Cheetor, and the Fallen are so cool! Keep on rolling out those galleries!

Darth Screamer wrote:

83457W422102 wrote:Woah! Boss man, you gotta give yourself a break! Eat a sandwich and get some rest while we look at your galleries.

I'm not really digging either of these figures. Sorry, it's just me.

I like Cheetor a lot, but "the fallen" just seems a waste of space too me.

No, the gallery that is a waste of space is going to be posted before the end of the night.

Seibertron wrote:

Darth Screamer wrote:

83457W422102 wrote:Woah! Boss man, you gotta give yourself a break! Eat a sandwich and get some rest while we look at your galleries.

I'm not really digging either of these figures. Sorry, it's just me.

I like Cheetor a lot, but "the fallen" just seems a waste of space too me.

No, the gallery that is a waste of space is going to be posted before the end of the night.

The Fallen looks AWESOME and will be mine!

Cheetor is actually not bad, and if I ever see it for less than 12 bucks I'd probably pick it up.

It seems like the quality of these figures keeps improving as they go, especially after the GIJoe Megatron fiasco. Makes me extremely hopeful to see what the 6" Prowl and Grimlock molds look like.

Got the Fallen recently, and I gotta say, he's rather good.

First, the bad stuff:

The threads on his back are floopy, and the right elbow on mine was a little too loose, but both were fixed with the application of a little clear nail polish.

Articulation wise, his knees don't seem to bend a full 90 degrees (I feel a lot of stress when I try to bend 'em, so I just leave 'em alone out of fear of breakage), and the size of his forearms restrict his elbows from bending fully in certain configurations.

There's also some QC issues with his arm cannons.

Now the good stuff:

Despite what's noted about, his articulation is actually quite complete.

Sculpt is cool, it's real "old school", almost Super Robot-ish. Additionally, the black is cool and he really does give off a nice fiery feel.

Overall, Fallen is definitely a good figure, and I'd recommend him. A-