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Sabrblade wrote:

Rial Vestro wrote:Ratbat Unconfirmed

Ratbat's dead.

We saw him get ripped to shreds when Prime destroyed Soundwave's body with Laserbeak.

So, we allso saw Soundwave get ripped to shreds... TWICE!

Rial Vestro wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rial Vestro wrote:Ratbat Unconfirmed

Ratbat's dead.

We saw him get ripped to shreds when Prime destroyed Soundwave's body with Laserbeak.

So, we allso saw Soundwave get ripped to shreds... TWICE!

Yeah, but none of Ratbat's remains were still alive.

Umm actually Soundwave isnt dead he just reverted back to his Casetter Player mode as he did in the sewer event.

Ratbat is Dead but Lazebeak isnt.

Lazerbeak was is the read guitar he retained his original bird robotic mode but his ALT mode was a red guitar.

Ratbat was a black guitar his robotic mode was his original bat mode.

Also Lazerbeak carryied away the soundwave cassette but Ratbat is dead.

Not that any of this matters since animated is now officially discontinued.

So why talk about animated when they arent going to be coninuing it anymore.

Rodimus2006 wrote:So why talk about animated when they arent going to be coninuing it anymore.

Good point, let's not talk about any series that is no longer getting new episodes. From now on, it's pointless to talk about G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RID, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, or Animated.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Umm actually Soundwave isnt dead he just reverted back to his Casetter Player mode as he did in the sewer event.

No one mentioned Soundwave being dead, only Ratbat.

Before going and saying things like Ratbat is dead there's 2 things you should consider.

1. Where did Laserbeak and Ratbat come from in the first place? Thoughs two characters have absolutly no known origin. They may of been brought to life some how by Soundwave. They could be AllSpark powered bots. Or they could just be toys Powel designed as accessories for the Soundwave toys.

2. If Soundwave can be smashed to pieces and brought back why can't Ratbat? Not knowing anything about where Laserbeak and Ratbat came from there's really no way of knowing how easy they are to destroy.

For all we know Laserbeak and Ratbat could be as easy to rebuild as Soundwave. There was no exsplination about them which is why I listed him as unconfirmed. He might be dead, who really knows. It'd be easier to tell if we knew what made them alive in the first place.

Shadowman wrote:

Rodimus2006 wrote:So why talk about animated when they arent going to be coninuing it anymore.

Good point, let's not talk about any series that is no longer getting new episodes. From now on, it's pointless to talk about G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RID, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, or Animated.

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I wonder the day that someone says " a tansformers Animated reference..."

Now we need to look to the future of transformers and pay attention or try to find out any new info on the next show.

Which wont be out anyways until the new Hasbro/Discovery channel makes its debut sometime in 2010.

Maybe some sort of announcement will be made at Comic-Con maybe they didnt have ready in time fo Botcon this year and maybe something will be said about the next series and give us more info on it.

Yes I know nothing was said about Soundwave being killed but Ratbat was Killed and Lazerbeak survived.

Starscream is also dead thanks to Prowl's mind over processor which sucked his allspark fragment from his head.

Also unknowns are the rest of the clones some were captured but unknown what happend to the Slipstream after she shot OP after she thought he was Starscream.

Also unkown about Team Char, Team Rodimus, The Consctructicons, and Blackarachnia she is assume alive as seen at the end of Predacon Rising running into some familar faces at the end of the show.

Sari is revealed we know that now well mostly anyways.

So really nothing more needs to be done with animated so on to the next series I guess.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Also unkown about Team Char, Team Rodimus, The Consctructicons, and Blackarachnia she is assume alive as seen at the end of Predacon Rising running into some familar faces at the end of the show.

Ugh, how many times must I say this?!! (not to you in particular, but) Rodimus Prime and his team were seen alive and well in "Decepticon Air"!!!

Rodimus2006 wrote:Which wont be out anyways until the new Hasbro/Discovery channel makes its debut sometime in 2010.

It's not a new network. Hasbro bought out some 50% of Discovery Kids Channel, and is going to rebrand it using their IPs.

Sabrblade wrote:Rodimus Prime and his team were seen alive and well in "Decepticon Air"!!!

Rodimus Prime was not seen in Decepticon Air nor has he ever been seen after his Cosmic Rust insident however sertain members of his team have been seen.


The only members of Rodimus's team to be seen sence Transwarped have been Hot Shot and Ironhide allthough haveing them appear in large crowd senes how can you even exspect anyone to realize they were there at all except for thoughs people pauseing their TVs to see everyone in the crowds.

BTW did I mention that even when he didn't have any lines Sentinal Prime was still a jerk. He was the only Autobot seen at the end of "End Game" not cheering and waveing his arms, he just stood there looking verry pissed off.

Umm actually it will be a new channel if they decide to rename the channel sort of how they are renaming Sci-Fi into Scy-Fy.

I have no idea what Hasbro/Discovery has planned or which channel they plan on putting the Hasbro Library on either the normal Discovery Channel or the Kids Discovery Channel or maybe they will just come out and make a new channel entirely.

I guess we will find out in 2010 I hope some info comes out soon.

I have no idea whats instore for the Hasbro/Discovery deal right now I am just making speculations of my own.

Nor do I have any ideas of what is in store for the next series of Transformers.

Right now it is way to early to even worry about the next series but we do have Revenge coming this month and plus 2 sets of Generation 1 if they have done a better job than the Rhino sets.

I am wondering if the Shout Factory sets will be a remastered version like how Funimation did with the DBZ sets I am collecting or will it be done how Sony re-done the 1986 animated movie.

I was really impressed with how Sony cleaned up the classic movie and I hope that Shout Factory does Generation 1 justice is these new sets.

This is the main reason I want the G1 sets is because they have supposedly remastered them.

Man I been watching E3 2009 Mircosoft stole the show finally MSG will be on the 360 also a new Motion Sener Camera that can work like a Wii Mote but better.

Metal Gear Solid - Peace Walker
Metal Gear Solid - Risen
Final Fantasy CC - Crystal Bearers
Metriod Prime - The Other M
Super Mario Bos. Wii
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Mass Effect 2
Mario & Luigi RPG 3
Golden Sun DS
Final Fantasy 13


This was an awesome E3 I cant wait for this Holiday and Spring 2010.

Also they announced Final Fantasy 14 Online which will be on the PC and also Playstation 3.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Umm actually it will be a new channel if they decide to rename the channel sort of how they are renaming Sci-Fi into Scy-Fy.

I have no idea what Hasbro/Discovery has planned or which channel they plan on putting the Hasbro Library on either the normal Discovery Channel or the Kids Discovery Channel or maybe they will just come out and make a new channel entirely.

They bought out 50% of Discovery Kids...I think they're going to put all of their stuff on Discovery Kids. If you buy half of Cartoon Network, it does not magically become an entirely different network.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Man I been watching E3 2009 Mircosoft stole the show finally MSG will be on the 360 also a new Motion Sener Camera that can work like a Wii Mote but better.

Metal Gear Solid - Peace Walker
Metal Gear Solid - Risen
Final Fantasy CC - Crystal Bearers
Metriod Prime - The Other M
Super Mario Bos. Wii
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Mass Effect 2
Mario & Luigi RPG 3
Golden Sun DS
Final Fantasy 13


This was an awesome E3 I cant wait for this Holiday and Spring 2010.

Also they announced Final Fantasy 14 Online which will be on the PC and also Playstation 3.

How is any of that at all relevant?

Sorry I new it wasnt relevant or anything to do with animated or transformers.


I thought I would post up some tid-bits about E3 super excited.

Also announced is the PSP-Go coming out it will be UMD-Less and also be out this year it has a flip up screen, built in Wi-Fi and will not be replacing the curring PSP-3000 models.

So whatever is on the PSP-Go will also be on the PSP-3000

So Metal Gear-Peace Walker, Resident Evil and Gran Turismo will be on both Plat Forms.

Dragon Age Origins looks sweet and I really didnt care much for the Call of Duty games but the upcoming Modern Warfare 2 has changed my mined about them.

Also Assasins Creed 2 look awesome.

Man my poor wallet is going to be emty this year between the games and the movies.

Also any of you guys going to go watch GI Joe-Rise of Cobra in August I am.

Umm what other good movies are coming out this year that are going to be worth checking out.

I know one I wanna see is called Disctrict or something reminds me of a live action Halo Movie except no Master Chief.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Sorry I new it wasnt relevant or anything to do with animated or transformers.


I thought I would post up some tid-bits about E3 super excited.

Also announced is the PSP-Go coming out it will be UMD-Less and also be out this year it has a flip up screen, built in Wi-Fi and will not be replacing the curring PSP-3000 models.

So whatever is on the PSP-Go will also be on the PSP-3000

So Metal Gear-Peace Walker, Resident Evil and Gran Turismo will be on both Plat Forms.

Dragon Age Origins looks sweet and I really didnt care much for the Call of Duty games but the upcoming Modern Warfare 2 has changed my mined about them.

Also Assasins Creed 2 look awesome.

Man my poor wallet is going to be emty this year between the games and the movies.

Also any of you guys going to go watch GI Joe-Rise of Cobra in August I am.

Umm what other good movies are coming out this year that are going to be worth checking out.

I know one I wanna see is called Disctrict or something reminds me of a live action Halo Movie except no Master Chief.

You know if I had the abilities I would have banned you loooooooooong ago.
If you want to inform us about the E3 stuff please do so in our Video Games forum.

Stop posting things that have nothing to do with this thread!

What episode did Soundwave die in? Also, I don't recall ever seeing Laserbeak or Ratbat in the cartoon. What episode were they in, so I can go back and rewatch it?

Random wrote:What episode did Soundwave die in? Also, I don't recall ever seeing Laserbeak or Ratbat in the cartoon. What episode were they in, so I can go back and rewatch it?

I think the episodes were Human Error, parts 1 and 2.

Random wrote:What episode did Soundwave die in? Also, I don't recall ever seeing Laserbeak or Ratbat in the cartoon. What episode were they in, so I can go back and rewatch it?

Soundwave has appeared in a total of 3 episodes. 2 of them with Laserbeak and Ratbat. Allthough the second time he appeared was a 2 part episode so you could count it as 2 for Soundwave and 1 for Laserbeak and Ratbat.

"Sound and Fury" where he appeared WITHOUT Laserbeak or Ratbat. I don't know how true this is but what I've read is that the show's animators and wrighters were not aware of Hasbro's desision to include Laserbeak with the toy otherwise he would of been included in this episode. Soundwave was destroyed at the end of the episode but they did show a dramatic close up of a G1 Nod tape recorder with the Decepticon symbol on it. For Soundwave sence he is not a true Cybertronian and wasn't powered by an AllSpark fragment that G1 fan nod seems to take the place of him haveing a spark sence it seems Soundwave can easily be rebuilt as long as that tape recorder is still in tact.

In the "Human Error" 2 parter the show made a second attempt at Soundwave and included both Laserbeak and Ratbat who technically comes with the Soundblaster repaint. Yeah I know it's not called Soundblaster but it's a Black Soundwave so that's what I'm going to call him because Electrostatic Soundwave is a supidly long name. Anyway, Ratbat and Soundwave were both destroyed at the end of the 2 parter. Laserbeak however got away and was seen at the end of the episode flying away with Soundwave's G1 tape recorder fan nod "Spark" thingy.

So the short answer to the first question is Soundwave never died but his body was destroyed twice. The short answer to the second question is Laserbeak and Ratbat appeared in "Human Error" they're only seen at the end of part 1 but they're throughout the episode in part 2.

I don't know if anyone has thought about it this way or not but looking at Soundwave's different forms, they each seem to represent something in a Transformer. He's got his transforming body that seems to be easily damaged and easily rebuilt/repaired due to the fact he somehow formed that body around his original design.

The original toy design for Soundwave that Megatron created seems to be a sort of Protoform. Not exactly liquid metal but in the sence that he doesn't have an alt mode yet and gains one later in the episode.

And finally the tape recorder seen at the end after his body is destroyed each time seems to represent his spark as it seems Soundwave can't truely be dead as long as it still exsists.

Animated Soundwave is more unique than G1 Starscream was made out to be in Beast Wars.

Rial Vestro wrote:

Random wrote:What episode did Soundwave die in? Also, I don't recall ever seeing Laserbeak or Ratbat in the cartoon. What episode were they in, so I can go back and rewatch it?

Soundwave has appeared in a total of 3 episodes. 2 of them with Laserbeak and Ratbat. Allthough the second time he appeared was a 2 part episode so you could count it as 2 for Soundwave and 1 for Laserbeak and Ratbat.

Thanks for that. I thought I had caught all the eps. Totally missed this one...

I really dont care if you guys wanna ban me or kick me out or whatever all I was doing was trying to change the subject.

It really is stupid and pointless in talking about a canceled series.

I mean I dont know if they have plans on making a DVD Movie of the show how they did with Teen Titans or is Animated really finished for good.

I say that Animated is finished for good, also I say it will be quiet sometime before the next series in transformers.

Also I think this is good it give us a chance to catch up on everything and it gives them a chance to recharge there batteries and take thier time on coming out with the next transformers.

Also dont expect nothing until 2010 atleast.

Rather or not the new series will be on CN or the new Hasbro/Discovery channel is unkown it could be seen on both channels until something is worked out.

I have no idea what is next for transformers or the Discovery/Hasbro channel or if they just plan on just showing past shows from the Hasbro Library.

Or if they will ever be any new shows beyond animated or was animated the final show.

I guess nothing will be known until they get off thier buts and make an announcement about what they have planed for the future or what they have instore for the next thing in transformers.

I really dont care right now as it is way to far away, also transformers isnt the only thing on or coming on.

Also they are plenty to keep us busy until then so quiet talking about a canceled series.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Also they are plenty to keep us busy until then so quiet talking about a canceled series.

I didn't recall seeing you being promoted to mod...

If people want to talk about TF:Animated, they are more than welcome to. People still talk about G1 around here don't they?

Mkall wrote:If people want to talk about TF:Animated, they are more than welcome to. People still talk about G1 around here don't they?

Not to mention, it's the TF Animated Discussion thread. It's here to talk about TF Animated, nothing else.

And I already told you, Rodimus2006, G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RiD, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Animated have all been canceled. By your logic, we shouldn't talk about anything except the movies.

I have question for you Rodimus2006 did you even like TF:A?


Personally I hope the at the very least create a direct to DVD movie. It's a hope I don't have any for Animatd getting picked up again as a TV series.

More importantly, I hope we get a season 3 DVD.