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ZeroWolf wrote:That's good then, though I'm still surprised they haven't just bit the bullet and had the Dalek Masterplan animated

Given it's length and the likely expense, I always assumed that was going to be the final animated story. When all the other lost episodes had been restored. I'd be more than happy with Mission into the Unknown being tacked on with it. In Lieu of the forever lost The Feast of Steven, to bring it back upto 12 parts.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:That's good then, though I'm still surprised they haven't just bit the bullet and had the Dalek Masterplan animated

Given it's length and the likely expense, I always assumed that was going to be the final animated story. When all the other lost episodes had been restored. I'd be more than happy with Mission into the Unknown being tacked on with it. In Lieu of the forever lost The Feast of Steven, to bring it back upto 12 parts.

That sounds a good compromise. I received the Abominable Snowman dvd for Xmas, so more animated stories are welcome.

Hopefully they will get back on track with these restoration projects. Now they have added Disney money.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Hopefully they will get back on track with these restoration projects. Now they have added Disney money.

It would be nice if they put the money to good use. How many serials are still left to animate? We haven't had a Highlanders release have we?

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Hopefully they will get back on track with these restoration projects. Now they have added Disney money.

It would be nice if they put the money to good use. How many serials are still left to animate? We haven't had a Highlanders release have we?

To quote from my previous list in 2021

Lost 1st Doctor serials

Marco Polo - all seven parts
The Crusade - 2/4 parts surviving
The Myth Makers - all four parts
Dalek's Master Plan - 3/12 parts surviving
Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve - all four parts
Celestial Toymaker - 1/4 parts surviving
The Savages - all four parts
The Smugglers - all four parts

Lost 2nd Doctor serials

The Highlanders - all four parts
The Underwater Menace - 2/4 parts surviving
The Wheel in Space - 3/6 parts surviving
The Space Pirates - 1/6 parts surviving

That is where we are at in 2023.

Thanks, looking at thar list, I'd love to see the Wheel in Space and Celestial Toymaker Animated, providing we have the audio surviving

I'm really surprised Wheel in Space has been left for so long. Considering, the Cybermen are nearly equal in popularity to the Daleks. While also it is their last incomplete story. Which have all previously proven well received restoration projects in the past. Maybe the fact it isn't considered very good was the reason they held off?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm really surprised Wheel in Space has been left for so long. Considering, the Cybermen are nearly equal in popularity to the Daleks. While also it is their last incomplete story. Which have all previously proven well received restoration projects in the past. Maybe the fact it isn't considered very good was the reason they held off?

Possibly, though I sometimes wonder what the selection process was for choosing who'd get the animation treatment

Thinking about that multi-Doctor scene in The Power of the Doctor and realizing that if you take away the fanservice, the writing of that scene is really terrible. Thirteen is standing at a metaphorical precipice, with the choice of accepting regeneration and leaping down, or "fighting" against it. And that's all there is to it. There's no dramatic tension, no Master presence trying to push her off or raise the stakes. Nothing for her to stand against. She literally JUST PASSIVELY STANDS THERE, through MULTIPLE cutaways, while her companions are the ones working to undo the regeneration.

A competent writer would have added a ticking clock, and/or some external force. Something to give Thirteen to DO to give the character some greater agency in her own rescue. Look at any other possession story... heck, look at "Nightmare in Silver" as the example of doing it right. Eleven doesn't just stand inside his own head getting asspats from his other incarnations. He's interacting with the possessing entity and actively resisting it.

And the most annoying thing is they have the First Doctor make a comment about her "strength of will" or something like that. It's just more of Chibnall's typical tell-don't-show writing. It just took me this long to notice because of the cameos.

JazZeke wrote:. Nothing for her to stand against. She literally JUST PASSIVELY STANDS THERE, through MULTIPLE cutaways, while her companions are the ones working

Seems familiar...

HAHAHAHAHAHA Matt Berry as The Doctor? Yes please!

Burn wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHA Matt Berry as The Doctor? Yes please!

Absolutely! I've always thought Matt Berry would be great in Doctor Who. As the Doctor specifically, I'm all for it.

That is amazing, a shame he never got his wish

I don't think even Eccleston could have made That Coat work...

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I don't think even Eccleston could have made That Coat work...

I'd be surprised if anyone could

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I don't think even Eccleston could have made That Coat work...

I'd be surprised if anyone could

If only the Blue Suit had made it onscreen..

Intriguing

An episode set in the 60's so they're dressing accordingly.

Burn wrote:An episode set in the 60's so they're dressing accordingly.

Indeed. I do forget at times how Nu Who does like to toy with different outfits a lot more than Classic used to.

Meanwhile,
I am very backdated with Big Finish. Mostly due to being really forgetful. So with a bit of free time today, I thought I'd listen to a recommended one-off story I bought in a sale:



The basis for the brilliant 9th Doctor episode, Dalek. That and it was initially a 6th Doctor story, was all the foreknowledge I had of this. It is considerably darker than I was expecting. I've heard quite a few BF stories, largely in isolation, at this point. I wasn't expecting a story that matched the tone of Spare Parts to be so readily available. Also, almost as good.

Not a fan of the 6th Doctor. I've only seen him onscreen. Colin Baker's run didn't endear me to him. As I've heard and now appreciate, Big Finish has done much to improve upon his onscreen characterisation. I found him more engaging here, than Davison's 5th Doctor in Spare Parts. His companion not being Peri, did catch me off guard. Evelyn is actually a really counterpart to 6. There is something between the two of them that mirrors the dynamic between Barbara and the 1st Doctor. Which I think would have worked a lot better onscreen than Peri's "relationship".

This is a really messed up storyline. Not just on the overt danger of a Dalek invasion. But musing on the consequences of "what happens after" the Doctor saves the day. The part the show normally skips over. It gets suitably timey-wimey by part three. Which, to it's credit, leaves the listener to connect the dots without explaining itself via exposition.

Now for the hot take: I'm not really a fan of Daleks. I'm the Cybermen fan. I "get" them. I don't really have a similar vibe for Davros' Nazi-allegory pepper pots. That said, this is probably the first Dalek story since it's onscreen adaptation, that I really enjoyed. It's a 9/10 for me.

Scourge of The Cybermen

The single longest audio of my Big Finish "unheard" collection. It is several hours long. Because it is an audiobook after all, not just a drama. It is also, somewhat ironically, my first 3rd Doctor story. It is also very, very good.

Without going into spoiler specifics. On paper, it sounds like a 'Base under siege" story aka the defacto template for Cybermen tales. Then about a third into the book, the curtain is peeled back and it becomes something more. To my ear, Jon Culshaw is really good as the 3rd Doctor. The cadence of Pertwee sounds authentic. The writing in general is of a high calibre. It is one of those, much like when I read the 1st Doctor novel Ten Little Aliens. I do wish made into the show. Although as it is a very bleak tale for the most part(tonally appropriate for Cybermen). I don't know how well that would have translated in 70's onscreen Who. Highly recommended 9.9/10 (It loses a point for no Mondasian voice )

Got some new pictures of my 4th Doctor cosplay recently, here's one of them.

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