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[TulioDude]

All of these are looking solid!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Freezer just looks so neat, something ideal for a troopbuilder for the Terrorcons. This is the kind of approach that could allow for Decepticon protoforms for troopbuilders.

i will get at least 3, at least one to stand alone and a couple for Terrorcon weapon modes or turrets. And maybe even more to pair up with the retail release RotB figures and the SS figures.

And Mirage looks great, looks like a fun toy. I like how it looks, and licensed Porsche is awesome. I continue to get all kinds of excited for the movie and the toys.

But I find really annoying that They've used fake car parts for robot chest and shoulders... I mean: was it so hard to create a trasnformations which would leave front bumper and lights where They should be, instead of designing fake parts (We can also see that the front part of the car makes the legs, so the lights and the bumper of the alt mode are actually on the back of the feet)

This is actually incorrect.

The chest appears to be the real front of the car, just the lower part, not the whole thing ala G1 datsun. You can see the top on his back. The feet are actually made of the rear bumper.

[Ig89ninja]

Really? So is this a prequal or a reboot?

...and changes personality. He also seems to forget all about Charlie? This goes for every character, I get that the cybertron scene was rushed at the end, and that's why we got the g1 designs, but it's still cannon right? I might take a break from all of this.

Where are you getting all that?

We have no confirmation that Bee's personality has gone through a major shift; and while Wheeljack does undeniably look different than before, Bee, Arcee and Prime look like an evolution of their Bumblebee movie designs.

[Emerje]

Edit:

Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.

This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.

Yes, and without a reboot to avert his fate in 2007, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character in 1992. It's hard to get attached to someone who has an especially disappointing death ahead of him.

I disagree, if this were the same character as the Jazz from the first movie that would actually be a good thing for the character. In the movie Jazz was as 1 dimensional as a character can get and the most memorable thing he did was die. If he were to appear in a prequel, even if his scenes were minimal, it would actually add some much needed weight to his later fate.

Honestly, did you really think someone on this board somehow missed the part where this movie is a prequel?

Yes, absolutely yes. Not everyone here follows the movie info that closely before the movie and the trailers have done really nothing to reflect the time period it takes place in. Compared to the Bumblebee Movie trailer which exudes 80s, the ROTB trailer could take place any time in the last 30 years doing very little to pass it off as being set in the 90s unless you're paying very close attention.

Emerje

[william-james88]

There are new rumours afoot for upcoming 2024 Transformers toys. This time however, we don't have confirmation from shipment records or vendor lists so there is no consensus on which particular version of a character the list below may be referring to, so that has been removed to avoid confusion. We will update if this list turns out to either be fake or further confirmed. The list was first published on the TFW2005 website.

TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE MOHAWK
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE RUMBLE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE STARSCREAM
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX SCORPINOCK
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX SUNSTREAKE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX WFC SIDESWIPE (High Moon game)
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY WFC STARSCREAM (High Moon game)
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY 86 SCRAPHEAP
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY SHOCKWAVE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR MEGATRON
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR TF86 SWOOP

And yes, while Hasbro did specify that Swoop would be the same size as the other Dinobots on Instagram, some fans were still being worrywarts, so hopefully this list helps in that regard.

[First-Aid]

Are we finally getting a leader TLK Megatron? And Voyager Shockwave? Gotta be SS 86...can't see the logic in releasing a Voyager movieverse when they've already done a leader.

Starscream and Scorponok must be repacks...unless it's going to be Energon Scorpy?

SS Sunstreaker? He made like a 3 second cameo in the 86 movie...

And MOHAWK?!?!? FInally!

[william-james88]

Are we finally getting a leader TLK Megatron? And Voyager Shockwave? Gotta be SS 86...can't see the logic in releasing a Voyager movieverse when they've already done a leader.

Starscream and Scorponok must be repacks...unless it's going to be Energon Scorpy?

SS Sunstreaker? He made like a 3 second cameo in the 86 movie...

And MOHAWK?!?!? FInally!

For Shockwave, it could be the BB movie shockwave, that's one of the few bots from that intro we didn't get to fit with the rest yet. Really not sure about Megatron, but I don't think it will be TLK.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Well, I'm glad to see Mohawk but man, that's an incredibly depressing roster.

I was holding onto hope that 2024 would be better than 2023 for Bayverse stuff since we only have a single core repaint in the mainline for the entireity of this year, and hopefully we'll see more Bayverse at the end of 2024, but that lineup is super disappointing to see.

Like, I could tolerate 86 when we were still getting a handul of Bay figures a year (like 2022) but now between 86 and the WFC games for some reason, we're down to getting a single core figure a year when we still have a big part of the Bay roster to get through.

It's difficult to say because it didn't pan out when I said it recently for 2023, but man, I have to hope there's more Bay stuff at the end of 2024.

[Sabrblade]

Well, I'm glad to see Mohawk but man, that's an incredibly depressing roster.

I was holding onto hope that 2024 would be better than 2023 for Bayverse stuff since we only have a single core repaint in the mainline for the entireity of this year, and hopefully we'll see more Bayverse at the end of 2024, but that lineup is super disappointing to see.

Like, I could tolerate 86 when we were still getting a handul of Bay figures a year (like 2022) but now between 86 and the WFC games for some reason, we're down to getting a single core figure a year when we still have a big part of the Bay roster to get through.

It's difficult to say because it didn't pan out when I said it recently for 2023, but man, I have to hope there's more Bay stuff at the end of 2024.

What about Deluxe Scorponok? That can only be the Movie version, since no other Scorponok has appeared in a movie, and there wasn't a Scorponok in the High Moon Studios games.

[chuckdawg1999]

That studio series 86 Scrapheap confuses me, is it from the 86 movie or the 86th Voyager in the Studio series line?

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

What about Deluxe Scorponok? That can only be the Movie version, since no other Scorponok has appeared in a movie, and there wasn't a Scorponok in the High Moon Studios games.

The listings here don’t include it, but the original listings have this Scorponok as being from ROTB (TF7)

[Sabrblade]

That studio series 86 Scrapheap confuses me, is it from the 86 movie or the 86th Voyager in the Studio series line?

The former.

[Nemesis Primal]

So, some notes.

First of all, looking at TFW, it appears that the Voyagers and Leaders have Target listings in a picture on their article, and JTPrime just posted the product numbers and EANs, so it seems like this is definitely all legit.

Second (and perhaps most importantly), the leakers & people with insider info over there appear to be repeating the notion that some of these listings that say "MV6" (which is how they denote Bumblebee) are actually mislabeled SS86 products (which happened in the past with at least SS86 Core Wheelie, don't remember if it impacted anyone else). For those who haven't looked over there for the full listings, that means the following:
-Megatron is either a figure based off of I guess concept art of him for Bumblebee (which should exist since we know he was planned and then cut from the film), or he's G1 Megs (still with a tank mode according to Q&A commentary from the past)
-Shockwave is either a Voyager/properly-sized version of his Bumblebee design (which I think is most likely), or is some kind of SS86 release (would probably have to be a new mold to emit the Siege bits and fit at Voyager?)
-Sunstreaker is either a design they made up out of nowhere as a hypothetical of "what if he was in Bumblebee" (or he has concept art we don't know about), or is SS86 (which makes more sense to me, both due to his nonexistent connection to Bumblebee and because Mark said in a Q&A that he knows ER Sunstreaker's colors don't match and expressed interest in fixing it)
-Rumble is a mystery no matter what, since he should include the PR label if he's a rerelease of the SS86 Rumble that already exists, but he doesn't, but also he's another bot that wasn't actually in Bumblebee (and he shouldn't just be a red version of that SS86 Rumble, since we have SS866 Frenzy on the docket for this year, unless that listing is also wrong?)
-Core Starscream could technically be SS86 too, but since Core G1 Screamer already exists, and we already had a rumor that a Core of Bumblebee Screamer was on the way, this one is probably labeled correctly

...I'm going to bed now.

[Rtron]

The news story should be updated to include the part of the listings that says what movie the toy is from.

Megatron and Sunstreaker are definitely just mislabeled SS86. Man, I hope future waves are more bay-inclusive, it's getting way too G1 here.

And hey, maybe that MV7 Scorponok (spelled scorpinock in the listing) is a spoiler??? There's a drawing of a scorpion in the promotional material for Rise of the Beasts, even though the Predacons haven't been mentioned nor shown in the trailers. Because if it was 2007 Scorponok, it should be a core class, right?

[william-james88]

The news story should be updated to include the part of the listings that says what movie the toy is from.

It will when there's a consensus or further proof.

[Rtron]

The news story should be updated to include the part of the listings that says what movie the toy is from.

It will when there's a consensus or further proof.

It's part of the listing, whether that listing has an error or not is a different matter

[RiddlerJ]

So, some notes.



-Megatron is either a figure based off of I guess concept art of him for Bumblebee (which should exist since we know he was planned and then cut from the film), or he's G1 Megs (still with a tank mode according to Q&A commentary from the past)
-Shockwave is either a Voyager/properly-sized version of his Bumblebee design (which I think is most likely), or is some kind of SS86 release (would probably have to be a new mold to emit the Siege bits and fit at Voyager?)
-Sunstreaker is either a design they made up out of nowhere as a hypothetical of "what if he was in Bumblebee" (or he has concept art we don't know about), or is SS86 (which makes more sense to me, both due to his nonexistent connection to Bumblebee and because Mark said in a Q&A that he knows ER Sunstreaker's colors don't match and expressed interest in fixing it)

What's to say these aren't simply reuses of the WFC molds (minus the extra bits for Shocky)? They already did that with SS Coronation Starscream

[Rtron]

So, some notes.



-Megatron is either a figure based off of I guess concept art of him for Bumblebee (which should exist since we know he was planned and then cut from the film), or he's G1 Megs (still with a tank mode according to Q&A commentary from the past)
-Shockwave is either a Voyager/properly-sized version of his Bumblebee design (which I think is most likely), or is some kind of SS86 release (would probably have to be a new mold to emit the Siege bits and fit at Voyager?)
-Sunstreaker is either a design they made up out of nowhere as a hypothetical of "what if he was in Bumblebee" (or he has concept art we don't know about), or is SS86 (which makes more sense to me, both due to his nonexistent connection to Bumblebee and because Mark said in a Q&A that he knows ER Sunstreaker's colors don't match and expressed interest in fixing it)

What's to say these aren't simply reuses of the WFC molds (minus the extra bits for Shocky)? They already did that with SS Coronation Starscream

For Sunstreaker, nothing really. Shockwave is probably the Bumblebee movie one. But Megatron is a Leader class, AND he's being released on the 40th anniversary, so he's probably a new mold, if he's SS86.

[Ig89ninja]

Wait, if the Deluxe "Scorpinock" is rumored to be Predacon Scorponok, is it possible that the Leader Megatron is actually Predacon Megatron as well?

[Starshriek]

well I'm pretty sure Hasbro's only going to release one megaron, if at all, seeing as the terracons are the big bad of this movie, i don't think we'll see any megatron unfortunately. but a figure?

[RiddlerJ]

Wait, if the Deluxe "Scorpinock" is rumored to be Predacon Scorponok, is it possible that the Leader Megatron is actually Predacon Megatron as well?

Why would Beast Wars characters be in the Studio Series Line?

[Rtron]

Wait, if the Deluxe "Scorpinock" is rumored to be Predacon Scorponok, is it possible that the Leader Megatron is actually Predacon Megatron as well?

It's not rumored, I just wildly speculated and wishfulfilled because it says MV7 on the listing, which is Rise of the Beasts, lol. Could just be a 2007 misnomer or something. Megatron says MV6, so he's either based on Bumblebee concept art, or SS86 miscategorized, like it happened with Wheelie.

[Till-all-R1]

Nothing of note really, be nice if it is a reissue of Sunstreaker. Even if he barely appeared in the 86 Movie getting him back out again is the main thing, and they seem to need filler for SS86 these days.

Shockwave being a Voyager shocks me, I just don't know how they pull that off if it's the Siege leader figure. So it's most like some other garbage version from a lackluster source.

It's interesting how people constantly complain about the lack of Bay Bots, my guess is that Hasbro simply releases what sells the most. I also feel the further we get from those horrible movies and move into new ones the less you'll see figures from the Bay movies.

[Sabrblade]

Wait, if the Deluxe "Scorpinock" is rumored to be Predacon Scorponok, is it possible that the Leader Megatron is actually Predacon Megatron as well?

Why would Beast Wars characters be in the Studio Series Line?

Because Beast Wars characters are in Rise of the Beasts? We've already seen Studio Series Airazor and Cheetor, remember.

[RiddlerJ]

Wait, if the Deluxe "Scorpinock" is rumored to be Predacon Scorponok, is it possible that the Leader Megatron is actually Predacon Megatron as well?

Why would Beast Wars characters be in the Studio Series Line?

Because Beast Wars characters are in Rise of the Beasts? We've already seen Studio Series Airazor and Cheetor, remember.

Yeah, but Scorponok and Megatron aren't, are they? I thought the point of SS was movie characters.