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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:54 pm

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Hasbro has unveiled Studio Series deluxe class Mirage from the Rise of the Beasts movie. The images below were posted on their Facebook page, stating that a preorder will be up at a later date. This reveal coincides with the Superbowl spot showcasing the character. The only studio series Autobot toy left to reveal now is Wheeljack. Let us know what you think of this Mirage toy.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Perceptor1996 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:12 pm

Honestly I like how this looks more then the character model in the trailer. Which is probably unfair because the trailer cg is never finished, but still this just looks like a fun car bot to mess around with and have fighting your bad guys
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:14 pm

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He looks... interesting.

His feet look really awkward. Lots of car parts hanging off of him in robot mode.
He gets the lower front bumper sections with the turn signals for a chest, which means they are not trying to pass him off as a "You can use him as Jazz" toy but he's not really Jazz, at all.

I love the car mode.

Interesting... Is all I can say. Don't know if I really want to to pick him up. Maybe just for the Porsche mode. Since we probably won't see a licensed Porsche 911 Turbo ever again.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:29 pm

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Mirage is just… okay. He reminds me of a Bayverse figure from 2007-09, blocky/shell-like robot mode but a nice and sleek alt-mode. It makes sense as a design choice, but from screen to figure something seems off.

I’m might be beating a dead horse here, but WHY is this character not Jazz? This figure furthers the similarities of this Mirage to G1 Jazz, he even has a visor. And of course the alt-mode speaks for itself.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby 84everfan » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:48 pm

Worst Jazz figure ever
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby G1OptimusPAX » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:49 pm

No,I don't think you're beating a dead horse...I've been reading a bunch of outlets on this topic. Some sound really wierd, but all in all, it's all around disappointing to me. I'm open to certain things, but this character has a visor and is a Porsche. Just Michael Bay all over again.
They fooled me with Bumblebee... I thought we were going in a good direction at first,but have to wait an see... hopefully the Porsche, is a Mirage
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby 84everfan » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:50 pm

Overcracker wrote:He looks... interesting.


Why can't you just say "bad"? Whose feelings are you sparing?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:03 pm

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:he even has a visor.
He does not have a visor. He has a blue panel/browline right above his blue eyes, so if you aren't looking closely enough it looks like a visor.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Gearslide » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:06 pm

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That's just Jazz.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:08 pm

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Mirage is looking a lot like Helicopter Dropkick to me, a cool licensed alt mode with a robot mode that, while inaccurate to the movie, I actually like more than the one in the movie. Even if I don’t like his character in the movie, he could be a fun repaint into a different character to fit in with my Bayverse bots.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:31 pm

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I like it, the name issue is a nonstater for me, this is movieverse Mirage...that's it. Besides which, we already had movieverse Jazz complete with visor.

I also love how people are reacting like this is the first name slap in the franchise when that boat sailed back in G2 (and then again in Machine Wars/beast wars). Nameslaps are tradition now.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:36 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I like it, the name issue is a nonstater for me, this is movieverse Mirage...that's it. Besides which, we already had movieverse Jazz complete with visor.

I also love how people are reacting like this is the first name slap in the franchise when that boat sailed back in G2 (and then again in Machine Wars/beast wars). Nameslaps are tradition now.


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Till-all-R1 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:49 pm

Overcracker wrote:He looks... interesting.

His feet look really awkward. Lots of car parts hanging off of him in robot mode.
He gets the lower front bumper sections with the turn signals for a chest, which means they are not trying to pass him off as a "You can use him as Jazz" toy but he's not really Jazz, at all.

I love the car mode.

Interesting... Is all I can say. Don't know if I really want to to pick him up. Maybe just for the Porsche mode. Since we probably won't see a licensed Porsche 911 Turbo ever again.

Pretty much my sentiments. I am curious if they might be able to repaint/retool in the future for an actual jazz figure but it's not like he transforms the same as Jazz does anyways. G1 at least. it's kind of tough to get a real sense of things due to the digital render that often looks different in toy form, but the Bot mode isn't anything special to look at and appears IDK odd.

Not understanding licensing issues they seem to run up against I don't see why they didn't just call him Jazz and change a few things, if in fact they couldn't secure the license for Mirage's alt mode.
Heck, for that matter why even bother with them when you've got dozens of other characters to use. I guess they are in need of Mirage's hologram projection technology for some reason and is why they went with him.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:37 pm

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84everfan wrote:
Overcracker wrote:He looks... interesting.


Why can't you just say "bad"? Whose feelings are you sparing?


I'm not sparing anyone's feelings. I just don't think he qualifies as bad. He's just not very good, or really appealing, but I would not say he's bad. He's just average looking, a bit too much kibble, not Jazz, and yet still a Porsche.

There's been terrible, terrible things in the Movie lines in the past, this is just ...meh.

We did get movie 1 Demolishor, movie 3 Scalpel? Those are bad. This is just meh. Saved by the Porsche mode.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:46 pm

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First-Aid wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I like it, the name issue is a nonstater for me, this is movieverse Mirage...that's it. Besides which, we already had movieverse Jazz complete with visor.

I also love how people are reacting like this is the first name slap in the franchise when that boat sailed back in G2 (and then again in Machine Wars/beast wars). Nameslaps are tradition now.


I hear much useless wailing and gnashing of teeth and temper tantrums. Trying to decide if Star Wars fans or Transformers fans are more whiny...

...running neck and neck right now....


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:26 pm

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I feel like the only reason this isn't called Jazz is because they had to renew the copyright for Mirage. There's no other reason this couldn't be Jazz really.

I don't know if I like the design, but then I wasn't really wild about the design that appears in the movie either. I really want to like this movie so maybe seeing it will change my mind about the figure. I mean that's what happened with the Bumblebee movie. Wasn't going to see it because I hated Bumblebee and the movie franchise. Then I saw it and loved it and immediately bought the Bumblebee toy. Maybe the same will happen here? Maybe the toy's engineering is excellent. Maybe the visible car kibble is actually parts of the vehicle mode instead of fakeout parts like what usually happens these days.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Deadput » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:37 pm

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:he even has a visor.
He does not have a visor. He has a blue panel/browline right above his blue eyes, so if you aren't looking closely enough it looks like a visor.
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Yup, this isn't a Visor guys just a bad angle that makes that part look like one.

If anything Mirage seems to be a live-action attempt at a Transformers Prime Smokescreen character from attitude to color-scheme.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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william-james88 wrote:
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ZeroWolf wrote:I like it, the name issue is a nonstater for me, this is movieverse Mirage...that's it. Besides which, we already had movieverse Jazz complete with visor.

I also love how people are reacting like this is the first name slap in the franchise when that boat sailed back in G2 (and then again in Machine Wars/beast wars). Nameslaps are tradition now.


I hear much useless wailing and gnashing of teeth and temper tantrums. Trying to decide if Star Wars fans or Transformers fans are more whiny...

...running neck and neck right now....


The vitriol towards Kathleen Kennedy dwarfs any hard feelings this community had for Bay.


Bay was far from perfect, but he did brought something FRESH to transformers. I could even daresay a renaissance.

But Kennedy? She downright sabotaged Star Wars and it will take a looooooong time for the franchise to recover.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Rtron » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:59 pm

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No sure yet about Mirage, save for the alt mode which is excelent. don't get the whining about the name. He makes mirages and goes fast, so he's called Mirage. Simple and effective as that. He's the same colors and everything.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby morganprime » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:00 pm

Feet are really odd and the chest...uhhh is Mirage a girl?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:04 pm

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As an alt mode I think it's neat, but his legs are the issue, they're just floating there untabbed to anything. His legs don't peg together in any way, for the other two modes they depend on the arms to keep them in place, but for this mode they're just there. That may not necessarily be a bad thing because it gives you some freedom to try other things with those legs if you want to change up his look, but I'd rather he pegged together at the ankles like we've seen so many other figures do.

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You could counter that by saying that the legs are handles and can spread, allowing for multiple size bots to use the tripod. I'm thinking like in the Millenium Falcon, how Luke and han both had separate handles to control the turret guns, but adjustable for bigger people/bots.


Maybe the pegs on the feet are for when it combines with Scourge and that's how the legs are secured?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby SpaceEagle » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:04 pm

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I think this figure looks pretty good, might pick it up. Kinda wish it was more offroad centric like Prime and Bee are (even if the only shots shown of Mirage before never indicated such a thing, I'm just a fan of rally cars.) but I still think both modes look nice.

I think the only two cents I'll throw in about the whole name thing is that it's weird, but I couldn't care less. I've played a lot of racing games so I mostly see the Porche 911 as a racing machine which still fits most other Mirages, and him being an open wheel racer might've stuck out too much from the regular Autobot crew in the film. It does feel Jazzy, but this is also from the Bayverse where Jazz was never a Porsche on screen so I'm fine with Mirage having it.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby M. Spector » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:09 pm

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I like how smoothly Freezer seems to intergrate into the other figures, neat stuff. Mirage? ... Eh I really think we need to wait until some actual toy pics and not renders are shown. So it's a pass from me for now
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:12 pm

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He does not have a visor. He has a blue panel/browline right above his blue eyes, so if you aren't looking closely enough it looks like a visor.
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Yup, this isn't a Visor guys just a bad angle that makes that part look like one.

If anything Mirage seems to be a live-action attempt at a Transformers Prime Smokescreen character from attitude to color-scheme.
A character that many people whined about stealing Hot Rod's role and personality?
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