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That Optimus may have some messy elements, but you gotta admit that in many aspects this easily one of the most G1-esque Optimus Prime in years. That headsculpt is not only spot on but absolutely lovely.

By the way, since earlier in the thread I mentionned the possibility of PotP re-using more CW molds and engineering: who here think a retooled and upgraded Motormaster/Optimus as Thunderclash would rock? All they would need, imo, is to keep the fixed hip and retool him so his arms lock into place better.

Quantum Surge wrote:Well, as much as I didn't like the G1 cartoon, I always liked the smaller cast that consisted of Hot Rod, Kup, Arcee, Blurr, Ultra Magnus, Wheelie, and Wreck-Gar. 11 characters less than the S1 cast (which to me consisted of a few remolds and character duplicates). Even though we get more combiners and old characters in the background, I feel more interested with the S3 cast (and other smaller casts in future franchises).

Even though I was born & bred to follow G1 Optimus, I absolutely agree season 3's smaller cast was appreciated. But the characters were still fairly straightforward.Now that I've nearly finished season 1 of Beast Wars, I'm loving the small cast of characters and dynamics of the Maximals. I now know why "sometimes crazy works" lol.

Skritz wrote:By the way, since earlier in the thread I mentioned the possibility of PotP re-using more CW molds and engineering: who here think a retooled and upgraded Motormaster/Optimus as Thunderclash would rock? All they would need, IMO, is to keep the fixed hip and retool him so his arms lock into place better.

Yes, and make sure his "bucklers"/combiner feet have a turbine aesthetic and can peg into his back to replicate his IDW look.

You do make a valid point on perfectly decent molds existing already for reuse in POP, all that truly needs to be retooled on CW figures is a peg hole into their chests to accommodate the Prime Master armor/hands. I'm honestly hoping we get a US released Nightbird toy. She can be easily retooled from one of Elita-1's limbs. Heck, they can even just repaint Dust Up.

anybody else think that if Takara brings Unite Warriors back, they will make POTP Starscream into Leozack and use him for a Liokaiser set?

1. Really Hoping UW comes back
2. Not sure on the whole Leozack from Starscream thing....

seems to be ok on new ideas (Lynx Master, Grand Convoy, Grand Galvatron, Megatronia etc...). But if its an already existing combiner, they probably want to do it right, or not at all.

o.supreme wrote:1. Really Hoping UW comes back
2. Not sure on the whole Leozack from Starscream thing....

seems to be ok on new ideas (Lynx Master, Grand Convoy, Grand Galvatron, Megatronia etc...). But if its an already existing combiner, they probably want to do it right, or not at all.

true, but so far Starscream is closer to right than Sky Lynx

You know, I still think UW missed an opportunity by not recoloring CW Optimus into Grand Convoy, with four limbs matching his Super Link/Energon mini-cons. I mean, they made the Nosecone mold which is perfect for the driller and Rook would have made a good replacement for the firetruck as well as a decent submarine if you remove the wheels.

i skipped his articluation parts in video i know what articluatoin he have by lokoing at bot mode, bot mode good jet mode bad combined mode worse there still going with over sized gorilla body combiners look stumpy legs long arms go past knees put him on all fours he look like starscream gorilla combiner stickers make him loko tacky cheap bot mode decent lokoing figure everything else is weak looking for this figure

Skritz wrote:You know, I still think UW missed an opportunity by not recoloring CW Optimus into Grand Convoy, with four limbs matching his Super Link/Energon mini-cons. I mean, they made the Nosecone mold which is perfect for the driller and Rook would have made a good replacement for the firetruck as well as a decent submarine if you remove the wheels.

If you think about it however the Energon Optimus "limbs" were just drones. I, for one, like what UW did with Optimus/Convoys, they gave me the toy Hasbro should have been advertising, instead of trying to stick those limbs with the white Optimus. While its true they did release baldigus, that was because it was so straight up and easy to do. I'm kind of surprised they didn't try to do Guard City & battle Gaia first actually....but who knows maybe they will be late offerings after they run out of PotP material...

o.supreme wrote:

Skritz wrote:You know, I still think UW missed an opportunity by not recoloring CW Optimus into Grand Convoy, with four limbs matching his Super Link/Energon mini-cons. I mean, they made the Nosecone mold which is perfect for the driller and Rook would have made a good replacement for the firetruck as well as a decent submarine if you remove the wheels.

If you think about it however the Energon Optimus "limbs" were just drones. I, for one, like what UW did with Optimus/Convoys, they gave me the toy Hasbro should have been advertising, instead of trying to stick those limbs with the white Optimus. While its true they did release baldigus, that was because it was so straight up and easy to do. I'm kind of surprised they didn't try to do Guard City & battle Gaia first actually....but who knows maybe they will be late offerings after they run out of PotP material...

I'm just pointing out that we had an Optimus who was:
1) A combiner torso who attach four limbs.
2) With a boxy but modernized truck mode.
3) And whose combined mode make use of an opening chest panel visual with clearly matrix-inspired molding inside.

How did anyone at Takara not see this and want to make it in Grand Convoy will remain a goddamn mystery to me because it was the perfect mold for an update.

Skritz wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Skritz wrote:You know, I still think UW missed an opportunity by not recoloring CW Optimus into Grand Convoy, with four limbs matching his Super Link/Energon mini-cons. I mean, they made the Nosecone mold which is perfect for the driller and Rook would have made a good replacement for the firetruck as well as a decent submarine if you remove the wheels.

If you think about it however the Energon Optimus "limbs" were just drones. I, for one, like what UW did with Optimus/Convoys, they gave me the toy Hasbro should have been advertising, instead of trying to stick those limbs with the white Optimus. While its true they did release baldigus, that was because it was so straight up and easy to do. I'm kind of surprised they didn't try to do Guard City & battle Gaia first actually....but who knows maybe they will be late offerings after they run out of PotP material...

I'm just pointing out that we had an Optimus who was:
1) A combiner torso who attach four limbs.
2) With a boxy but modernized truck mode.
3) And whose combined mode make use of an opening chest panel visual with clearly matrix-inspired molding inside.

How did anyone at Takara not see this and want to make it in Grand Convoy will remain a goddamn mystery to me because it was the perfect mold for an update.

Ironhide: Fire 1
Prowl: Copter 2
Sunstreaker: Digger 3
Mirage: Submarine 4

The colors match, and that's all they were willing to do. Frankly, a submarine has no real reuse, not to mention no characters assigned to either vehicle, so it probably wasn't in the cards anyway.

Skipping the PotP Optimus Prime, just looks too messy in every mode but Orion Pax.

The more I see the Deluxe Dinbots the more I want 'em, despite planning my budget to get the Terrorcons. Argh.

Skritz wrote:The more I see the Deluxe Dinbots the more I want 'em, despite planning my budget to get the Terrorcons. Argh.

Looks like we're in the same boat. Cost-wise for both per wave...

Wave 1: Swoop, Slug, Grimlock
Wave 2: Sludge, Snarl, Hun-Gurr, Rippersnapper
Wave 3: Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Blot

Huh, Wave 3 is the cheapest, followed by 1, then 2.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Skritz wrote:The more I see the Deluxe Dinbots the more I want 'em, despite planning my budget to get the Terrorcons. Argh.

Looks like we're in the same boat. Cost-wise for both per wave...

Wave 1: Swoop, Slug, Grimlock
Wave 2: Sludge, Snarl, Hun-Gurr, Rippersnapper
Wave 3: Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Blot

Huh, Wave 3 is the cheapest, followed by 1, then 2.

My problem is that, unlike you, I want those Leader Class figures in Wave 1. Which was one motivating factor for getting Dinobots and waiting for Wave 2 and 3 to get a full combiner. Plus Dreadwind and Darkwing.

Skritz wrote:That Optimus may have some messy elements, but you gotta admit that in many aspects this easily one of the most G1-esque Optimus Prime in years. That headsculpt is not only spot on but absolutely lovely.

By the way, since earlier in the thread I mentionned the possibility of PotP re-using more CW molds and engineering: who here think a retooled and upgraded Motormaster/Optimus as Thunderclash would rock? All they would need, imo, is to keep the fixed hip and retool him so his arms lock into place better.

I had a crazy thought. Magnus was one of the poll characters to be included in this line. It almost seems unlikely they'll have the budget to tool too many more leaders...

So this occurred to me.

What if they did a heavy retool of Orion as the armored Ultra Magnus who combined with a trailer to become Giant White Optimus Prime? Flipping which was the inner and outer bot?

RodimusRex wrote:What if they did a heavy retool of Orion as the armored Ultra Magnus who combined with a trailer to become Giant White Optimus Prime? Flipping which was the inner and outer bot?

Minimus Ambus would be a better fit for the mold, and it would make sense, contextually.

RodimusRex wrote:What if they did a heavy retool of Orion as the armored Ultra Magnus who combined with a trailer to become Giant White Optimus Prime? Flipping which was the inner and outer bot?

Better yet, why not Dion out of Orion with the white Optimus? Finally put that theory to rest.

Emerje

Although I really enjoyed CW Ultra Magnus, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a PotP version -- but don't expect it.

Even though I expected to see PotP on shelves this week at Target, it still seems they're "in the back". Using Brickseek, there's still no sign of Prime Masters, Voyagers or Leaders.

Have the Legends and Deluxes been spotted outside the US?I can't recommend Swoop & Slash enough.

Yeah why some Targets are stocking them and some are not is mind boggling. If shelves are empty...get them out there...I'm hoping Black Friday cleared out most of the glut of TR deluxe repack wave 4 that was clogging most of the Targets in my area, but I haven't been to one since before all the sales to see for myself.

Also, just out of curiousity, is there any way to increase Brickseeks range? I mean by default it gives me results from the closest 20 Target stores (which for me is within a 40 mile radius of my home) which is pretty good. I'd just like to know the closest store that currently has any Legends Class PotP (only Deluxes in my area)...not that I would drive all the way there, just curious though...

*edit* never mind, I just played with the zipcodes, searching major areas in all directions of my home. The closest right now that has any Legends class is about 120 miles away...I can wait.

I haven't seen anything to extend the distance of inventory availability for brickseek (unless you upgrade and pay for their Premium membership!), but I have been using Google-fu to look for other zip codes to enter when I'm curious.

I picked up a Jazz yesterday. He's pretty good, no RTS Jazz but good. Got the stupid little slogan in tiny print that's going to be removed. Passed on Slag for now. Not sure how I feel about tiny Dinobots.

zodconvoy wrote:I picked up a Jazz yesterday. He's pretty good, no RTS Jazz but good. Got the stupid little slogan in tiny print that's going to be removed. Passed on Slag for now. Not sure how I feel about tiny Dinobots.

*looks at AoE Dinobot scales*

*then looks at PotP Dinobot scales*

Only Sludge bucks the trend a little by being Deluxe instead of the Voyager that Slog was.

I've realized something: once I get Abominus (and he's still on top of my list for a complete combiner from PotP), I could very much assemble a variation of Abomenaticus or 'Destron Super Scramble' since I know a place which still has some Combaticons. Granted, I've been considering getting G2 Bruticus from said store to go alongside G2 Menasor: are the Combaticons worth it as a set? Note that I don't mind G2 coloring since I already got G2 Menasor and love his hilariously gaudy '90 color scheme.