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I cant speak for what's being said on larger social media platforms because I'm not on any. However my initial thoughts....

All the designs look pretty cool. Not many characters Im interested in, but I'm happy for others, and Ill save money. I've been all on board with the "izers" since the beginning, and the Rock types look good, so nobody can accuse me of not embracing new ideas. .

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Poster that shows Magmatron and Tidal Wave among many other new faces. They're probably the Commander and Titan, respectively.

Wouldn't that make Tidal Wave an awfully small Titan since the poster shows him connected to Armada Megatron?

Emerje

Well, if he's the Commander instead, then what's Magmatron? A measly Leader class?

JTPrime just confirmed titan Tidal Wave and Commander Magmatron

I really dont know what to make of this. Its kind of a no win situation. It still take the comments from JTPrime as rumor for now.

Tidal Wave -its great we are getting the Black/Purple from the animated series, always wanted one initially, but did not want to pay the import price or eBay upcharge 20+ years ago.

Something dosen't add up though. There's no way the designers would make a Tidal Wave that dosen't combine with Armada Megs. A Titan would be too big for the combination, while a CC would at least be feasible. Also YES I'd fully expected Magmatron (and an eventual BWII Galvatron) to be a Leader Class , as are most other villainous faction Leaders. I know Leader Class (along with others class) have shrunk in recent years, but Magmatron could still work in the upper end of what a leader class can be. I suppose a CC could work for Magmatron, but again, like Kingdom Rodimus Prime, it wouldn't be worth the $90 price point, no matter how well developed.

As for the Haslab... and the "Omega" level hint... Of course ,as my favorite character, Omega Supreme, another iteration (Like Animated), is a strong guess, also OMega Prime from RiD (but wont happen because of The inclusion of an Optimus)...

Didn't Cybertron Primus come with an Omega Lock? Getting a New Cybertron/Primus would definitely fit in with the theme of celebrating 40 years, plus giving us Unicron's Rival as well.

Barf. If it's not G1 sunbow characters, then I'm not buying. I guess Hasbro doesn't want my money.

Sabrblade wrote:We said he's Commander class, not Leader class.

I know , and I was refuting it, because there's only rumors so far

Sabrblade wrote: And, Magmatron was a BIG dude in Beast Wars Neo. Much taller than Big Convoy:

Which is why a Generations Big Convoy would be a Voyager just like most other Heroic Faction leaders in modern Generations.

I'm all about G1. It's what I collect for the most part. It was my childhood. But I gotta say.

It's about time some other eras get some love.

I'm sure G1 will have it's share of attention somewhere. But, really, other eras and characters deserve some love too.

Titan class Tidal Wave. It's one of the few characters that would get me to buy another Titan. I'm not even an Armada fan.

Looking at that Chase, especially the alt mode, I can see them doing Prime Cliffjumper out of it. I'd much rather have that than Lockdown from that mold.

Also, really not feeling that Windblade. Looks like Titans Return is still the best to date. And aside from the deco, I think the RID one looks better too.

Regarding the issu with Tidal wave, he will have parts that combine with Megatron/Galvatron, but it wont be the entirety. So you get the best of both worlds.

This wave is simply AMAZING.
And mostly because we are finally getting out of the G1 shackles!

The best for me are the "Rocklords". Vehicles made out of rocks? That's PRIMAL!

That Windblade have a nice bot mode, but her jet is more blocky than Jhiaxus. Weird.

Tigerhawk is ugly as sin. I'm not sure I'll be getting it. But that Thundertron? GLORIOUS! Waaaaayyyyyy better than the original.

Even though he's not my cup of tea, I say YES to modernised Rescue Bots. I'm sure there's some young adults out there who's first Transformers ever was Rescue Bots.

TITAN TIDALWAVE!
That's what I really wanted!

And finally, Commander Magmatron. I'm sure it will nuke the original out of the water. The OG was fiddly and not fun at all to transform. Plus it could barely pose. So I'm confident he'll turn out great.

I

Want

ALL OF THESE

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I know that Tidal Wave is going to be a Titan, but how cool would it be if he could still somehow interact with Legacy Armada Megs?

The poster shows Armada Megatron combined with Tidal Wave.

TK415 wrote:Since Tidalwave looks like a repaint of the Arc,

What? No he doesn't, he looks like himself. Like his cartoon model.

People speculated about that when the ark first came out. Look at the Titan Arc. Both of them have cannons right on the upper chest (the Arc's are definitely smaller but same placement). They both have a rectangle in the middle of the chest. I know that is common for a Transfomer, but those two things together, plus Titan.

I think it would be better if Tidalwave is a brand new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the Arc.

TK415 wrote:I think it would be better if tidal wave is a brand, new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the arc.

If TW is just a repaint/retool of the Ark, It will be the most pointless titan since TR Fortmax.

I had to skedaddle to work right after the TF segment ended so I didn't have time to post my thoughts, but my reaction seems to have been shared by many others here that this is a tremendously exciting first wave! I won't go into specifics about every figure, but I will say Tasmanian Snarl and Tigerhawk are standouts for me. What was most exciting to learn, however is that we will be getting an ACTUAL MAGMATRON!!

We really are in an era where nothing is off the table. The big 40th is looking pretty phenomenal.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

TK415 wrote:I think it would be better if tidal wave is a brand, new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the arc.

If TW is just a repaint/retool of the Ark, It will be the most pointless titan since TR Fortmax.

The design team confirmed recently that the Ark would not be used to make Tidal Wave.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

TK415 wrote:I think it would be better if tidal wave is a brand, new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the arc.

If TW is just a repaint/retool of the Ark, It will be the most pointless titan since TR Fortmax.

The design team confirmed recently that the Ark would not be used to make Tidal Wave.

Emerje

Oh! Good to know. Thank you Emerje, sorry I missed that. Thanks so much. Great points Sabrblade

Realized I forgot to put my actual thoughts and only talked about the Lockdown-Chase thing.
Definite Get: Tigerhawk, Windblade, Chase, & Tasmania Kid (all these look great, nothing really else to add), Tidal Wave (got so used to the expectation that I would be disappointed by him being Commander Class that I'm still in shock he's actually gonna be Titan like I wanted all along), Magmatron (oh I read that one comic series he was in, he's great, gimmie)
Maybe: Magneous & Bouldercrash (interesting concept that is not what I was expecting from the listings literally just saying Rock, undecided on what to do about them, think I like Bouldercrash better of the two though), Thundertron (he looks great, but I may try to hold out to hear more about the Leader one? Uncertain)
Not for me: Animated Optimus & Bee (both look great, just not the incarnations of those characters I would want as my definitive), Energon Megatron (I don't need a Core one, I need a Leader)

Razorbeast88 wrote:When is that star seeker line supposed to come out anyways? Wondering which Thundertron to get

Since the Star Seekers are the Walmart capsule, based off the example set by Velocitron and Toxitron we can probably expect an initial reveal & preorders in March/Spring (which would align with the "wait 6 months" tease the design team gave about the Chase retool) and actual release in July/Summer.

william-james88 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Any chance they'll release a Gen selects tidal wave with the toy colors? Haha

I'm sure they will.

Oh please / you gotta do right!

Just imagine all the articulation that this Titan figure will have that the Armada line figure didn't!!!

See...ya see all this wouldn't have happened had they used the ER Thrust mold instead of that lame Siege one!!!

Nemesis Destron wrote:See...ya see all this wouldn't have happened had they used the ER Thrust mold instead of that lame Siege one!!!

The Siege mold is 1000X superior than the ER mold.
Beside, if Nacelle had to be "Cybertronian", they could still give him the Siege mold but with the wings remolded.

Like they did for Senator Shockwave.

Nemesis Destron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Any chance they'll release a Gen selects tidal wave with the toy colors? Haha

I'm sure they will.

Oh please / you gotta do right!

Just imagine all the articulation that this Titan figure will have that the Armada line figure didn't!!!

Wrong toy. That's the one we're getting, usually when someone says toy colors they're talking about the Hasbro Armada version:



Of course there's also always option three.



I'm guessing the goal for making a Titan Tidal Wave in the first place is to make him Cybertron Metroplex's rival.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:
I'm guessing the goal for making a Titan Tidal Wave in the first place is to make him Cybertron Metroplex's rival.

Emerje

Oh, hell yeah, this will make Cybertron metroplex even better!

Still, I can bet my left and right nuts that Titan Tidalwave will not come with his minicon. So, I'm looking forward a future wave where deluxe (or core?) Drillbit and Ramjet (TW's minicon.) would finally be a reality.

Emerje wrote:I think I know who Chase is being retooled into and why they said to wait six months for the reveal since he's part of the Star Seeker lineup at Walmart next year. The double headlights on the feet and exhaust on the sides give it away. There's notches on the hood for an engine to plug into.






I didn't say it would be good.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Emerje wrote:Leader Tiger Hawk looks cool in bot mode, beast mode has really scrawny back legs. Emerje

Rtron wrote:The tiny backlegs on Tigerhawk's beast mode are a bit weird, but it's nice overall.

Thawk.jpg

How big did you remember his hawk legs being?

I own one, I didn't forget. The original had some meaty thighs, but the Colonel wouldn't look twice at United Tiger Hawk.

Emerje

Honestly, it does look plausible, but I disagree. I think he looks more like Prime Cliffjumper then anyone else. especially that alt mode.


Transformers Prime: First Edition Cliffjumper Gallery

Transformers Prime: First Edition Cliffjumper Gallery

Immortal Starscream wrote:Honestly, it does look plausible, but I disagree. I think he looks more like Prime Cliffjumper then anyone else. especially that alt mode.

They made it sound like they were doing something really crazy with the retool which I think Lockdown qualifies more for in terms of how much they would have to change to pull it off. Cliffjumper would be a more rudimentary change, just a repaint with a new head. We know we're getting a Lockdown figure next year, but there's been no mention of a Prime Cliffjumper anywhere as of yet, maybe he'd be a good one for Selects or Buzzworthy since those are usually pretty simple.

Emerje

I also wouldn't put it past them to retool Chase into Prime Wheeljack, a lot of things like up there too, especially with some toy details too.

uclaguy wrote:Barf. If it's not G1 sunbow characters, then I'm not buying. I guess Hasbro doesn't want my money.

They want mine, so it's OK.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote: And, Magmatron was a BIG dude in Beast Wars Neo. Much taller than Big Convoy:

Which is why a Generations Big Convoy would be a Voyager just like most other Heroic Faction leaders in modern Generations.

Big Convoy could be no less than Leader class, thanks to his bulk.